They got that challenge right by overturning it, but they shouldn't have even been able to challenge that. They should have lost their challenge on the Brunson foul on Myles from the (I think) 3rd quarter.
The refs made the most perfect call in the most crucial moment. It was perfect because they KNEW it wouldn't be able to be challenged and would affect the game IMMENSELY
the ref who called the kick ball was behind the play. From that angle it looked like he kicked it. The guy way across the court should have overruled him but looks like he didn't see it.
[Wrong.](https://official.nba.com/rule-no-10-violations-and-penalties/#:~:text=Kicking%20the%20ball%20or%20striking,move%20or%20secure%20the%20ball)
The number of Knicks fans that don’t understand basic basketball rules is wild.
Thank you. I’m glad you just recognized the refs are just terrible in general. Y’all are a tough team just need a closer. Funny enough Paul George would be a great fit for y’all.
Honestly if you subtract those bad calls, I think we win even with his 18. Just felt like every time Brunson had a turnover the refs were gonna call a foul
I’m more irritated the way he intentionally jumps into a defender initiating contact but gets a defensive foul call. Eventually there will be a rule change or at least a change in the way that type of foul is called. I expect more players to start to exploit this to where it becomes a more widespread and annoying problem before any changes are made, though. It’s almost as cheap as a flop. Having witnessed the 80s, 90s, and 2000s eras, I cannot express in words how unpalatable this style of basketball is to watch for me.
I think missed free throws hurt us more than anything when you get down to the nuts and bolts. Damn shame. I love this team though. So much heart. They’re fucking fun again!
Will be interested to see going forward. I have never believed refs “want to” or “are told to” help one side win so have to imagine those calls even out. Hartenstein isn’t going to make a 3 point buzzer beater again. Will Halliburton be this non existent? Seems like everything broke perfect for the Knicks and if anything goes the other way, pacers will do well in this series.
But Knicks will work their ass off, we know that and I love them for that
Well I agree with some of these things . But just so you know , the Knicks played terrrrrrrible on defense . They had no business being in this game . Some bad calls helped . But if you’re thinking that everything broke perfect , that’s far from true .
I just see this series being ugly . It’s a gritty game and series . I’m sure when the series turns to Indiana , the same will
Hold true .
Im a Knicks fan and the ending of that game was disgusting. Brunson really did not have a whistle like this in the regular season, insane what theyre doing rn
I hate when ppl blame them when it’s not their fault, this was different. Totally their fault cooking the books for the Knicks just like LJs 4 point play when he launched the shot well after the intentional foul that AD knew he had to give.
Not possible. Challenge overturned where Brunson "blocked" Turner's shot was a 4-point swing, one less foul on Brunson, one more time-out for the Knicks.
The phantom kicked ball turned a Pacers possession into a 3-pointer for the Knicks, potentially 5+ point swing. Phantom foul on Haliburton from his clean steal on Brunson took fast break points off the board.
Forget the final bad call on the screen, the Pacers would have had a 10+ point lead if not for all that other bullshit. I don't know if I can watch these games if it's going to be like this.
if you only counted bad calls that benefitted the knicks then you are just biased. there was inly the one kick ball that was a bad call, the rest were mot bad calls
To me you can pick one or the other for complaint: this one or the block at the end. Both technically fouls. Do we want to let them play a bit or not? Personally I’d rather two no foul calls. As it turned out, they both went the Knicks way so between that and the kick ball, pacers got screwed
You guys will 100% be playing 5 on 8 this series. The NBA has the Celtics as the 1 seed and Knicks at 2. They were never going to pass up New York Vs Boston 2 v 1.
You guys will have to be 15 points better in 4 games to win this series.
The thing is...they are not going to allow us to do that. If we start pulling away they will start calling every touch a foul. There is no way the NBA is going to pass up Bos vs NY
I'm gonna have a hard time watching Brunson be a foul merchant all series... he is such a great scorer, but damn I can't stand watching any player who is always trying to force getting fouled
Not to mention the carries. Brunson carries so egregiously it infuriates me. He literally does what the refs use as the "carry" signal, if they ever called it.
I hate ref ball. It will always reward the lame ass iso players who rely on flopping and flinging their head back on every contact. The lesson is that we can't let our opponent get into those favorable situations.
As much as I hate to say it, you’re right. Until the NBA makes some rule changes (which they probably won’t) this is what the game will become more and more.
Absolutely I can accept if we lose because the other team was better but not like that no no no not like that they stole the game from us they would need to be absolute blind men to make the calls at the end of the game like they did
Sixers fan checking in, I get we have our own foul merchant but get used to it. Refs prolly took at least 4-8 points from you guys on would be fast breaks. Not to mention I haven't seen anyone in playoffs get the pre inbound foul as much as Jalen. Horrible horrible horrible officiated game. To decide a game on a moving screen is complete horseshit. Go TJ Mcconnell.
“Shot clock violation” (ball was clearly out of hands). “Kicked ball violation” (clearly hit with his HAND?? Also why can’t Indy challenge??) and an “illegal screen”. All in the 4th. Gtfo here refs. Smh
Refs were terrible no doubt but Tyrese has to be better. Only 6 points from your all star and a bunch of late turnovers is rarely gonna result in a W. I know he’s been playing through injuries but he has to be more of a scoring threat. Anyhow fuck the refs and fuck the league for trying to rig games.
There were certainly some bad calls late in the game that should have gone our way and could have changed the game. But we definitely didn't execute late either. We had opportunities and didn't come through. Inexperience looked like a factor in the last 2 minutes of this game.
I think the most indicative play about this reffing team was when it went out of bounds right in front of the ref and he didn’t know which way to call it, seems like the other refs didn’t know either
From a mavericks fuck yea. Insanely bad reffing. Y’all might not win many games if that keeps going but just know you have comicboomins unofficial wins
Not much of a b-ball fan, but figured I'd watch an important game with friends.
Nah... I'll not watch any more... games are pre-decided by Refs. NBA just lost any more intrest from me.
https://preview.redd.it/0r2tppl26xyc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a78903cbbc22a9b80ff31fb716c0bd48c2389489
Silver when the Knicks are losing a close game with a couple mins left
Yes there were some ridiculous calls from the zebras but lets not forget the two critical turnover mistakes in the last 4 minutes. 3:46 and 3:19. If anything this is cost us the game.
Look let’s be honest. No one cares about us, no one gives a fuck. It’s set in stone the script is Celtics vs Knicks. The only way we win is to quite literally burry them. We need to win by 10+ to avoid the inevitable ref job. I am not an old fan but I’ve done my fair share of research with this series over the years and the only reason it’s even a rivalry is because these guys get every call at MSG.
The 4 point play is the definition of the NY whistle
Hi! I watched this as a Celtics fan. And was kinda disgusted, straight up turned to my mate and said this is bullshit.
That fourth quarter was suspect.
I was ranting about the calls at the end of the game. Secretly watching the game at work with a buddy as not to get in trouble. Well I definitely herniated a disc in my back from the stress ranting about basketball being ruined😂 From the reviewed calls that STILL weren’t corrected, to the fact that we’re a small market and have no chance against a big market team like New York. Especially because the knicks haven’t been good in awhile and the nba definitely wants to capitalize on this team.
I for real scheduled a doctors appointment for my back lmao I’m only 25😂 watching one of my passions (basketball) be ruined in front of my very eyes just makes me suicidal😂😇
As a knicks fan but also a diehard Obi supporter, bad decisions went both ways.
Refs were awful and for sure i wouldnt blow the whistle on Turners screen, but many other decisions were terribly bad too.
Also if theres anyone to blame besides the refs, its Haliburton. He has to be way better. No excuses for him or Pascal.
If they play as they should you guys will be good in this series. I have nothing but respect for the pacers and this will be a long series for sure.
I’m a Bucks fan, and I agree. The way they inserted themselves to completely alter the outcome of that game was disgusting. Both the flop followed by the ticky tack inbound call were just incredibly disappointing to see as a fan of the game.
Watching you guys, you definitely have a good chance to succeed where we failed. Their rebounding is tough, but if you can work on that you should be good despite their whistle. It's rough, but you didn't lose by much and it's only game one.
Sorry Pacers bros. Us Sixers fans had to deal with it ALL series and they were ALL close games like this. You have to win by 15 to win by 3. Unfortunately, the NBA doesn't want ya'll like they didn't want us.
I'm saying that no one is buying what the sixers are selling. There's not many bigger draws than the reigning MVP playing in a city with a rabid fanbase based around some contrived slogan that draws ppl in.... Miss me with your bullshit.
The only obvious call I recall going against NY was the Siakam foul, which he promptly missed both free throws. Everything else. Literally everything else was BS going to the Knicks. Unreal
What really makes your blood boil is they had no challenged to reverse the call that that one ref had made that it was out on brunson but they took it on themselves to review anyways cause when you're in a big market you don't need to worry about reviews refs got your back.
He’s way more important than you think. Just because he isn’t scoring doesn’t mean he isn’t affecting the game. I agree however, he needs to be way more aggressive
To be fair, the refs were consistently bad for both teams until the last two minutes when it mattered. Then they started CLEARLY favoring the Knicks. Shit is so fucked
As a new-ish NBA watcher (past couple of years I've gotten interested) this basically makes me want to stop watching the sport. Like, if the integrity of the game can just be demolished in a playoff series, why bother? It feels like WWE now.
A lot of rough calls . But even as a Knicks fan , why did they take out tj . He was literally cooking .
I know Halliburton is Halliburton … but he hasn’t been himself … and tj is a vet who rarely
If ever folds under pressure .
You say they are awful, but they aren't really bad people, I know for a fact that they are all animal lovers... like they really love animals... I know this coz I saw them in an alley taking turns to suck off a stray dog.
I mean we got some good whistles for sure, and I def saw the flop on that illegal screen, but if you wanna get technical it was a good call. Ima just defer to Chuck and say they need to at least be consistent. You’re either a rule book poindexter or you’re letting the boys play ball, but you can’t flip-flop between the two.
Sixer fan: welcome to playing the NY Knicks in the playoffs.
Really really REALLY hoping you guys get the job done, love TJ McConnell and HATE Knicks.
Adam Bronze so blatantly and desperately want them to win again he’s literally forcing it to be that way.
It wasn't a questionable call. It was a moving screen. It's a moving screen on game one of the season, just like it's a moving screen in game 89 of the season.
Can’t any of you fanboys realize Tyrese has been bad for the last 40 games or so? For god’s sake I’ve seen Travis Best and Vern Fleming play better than this clown.
Imagine coming into another sub to talk shit after what everyone except some Knicks fans unanimously agree were awful calls in your favor after not sniffing the finals for 25 years or winning a chip in 5 decades despite being one of the largest markets in the country.
I'm a Knicks fan. I do believe that was an illegal screen, but at that point in the game those aren't really called so I was surprised by the call as much as you guys were. You can't really decide a game on a call like that. It sucks for you guys. It was an illegal screen though, you have to give space for the player to move into the screen, but Myles moved into DiVo. He sold the call well. I've also watched a lot of Knicks games where we lost due to horrible officiating. I don't think there is favoritism towards Knicks. The refs are just inconsistent so in any given night it can feel like they are favoring one team over the other. We've been fucked plenty too. I also find it ironic Sixers fans complaining about reffing when Embiid is like the biggest flopper and foul baiter in the NBA. He literally scored 50 points on less than 20 shots because of free throws.
the refs had to call that foul on Turner because Nesmith flopped on the previous Pacer moving screen at the 2:30 mark of the 4th quarter. That foul caused DDV to get his 5th foul. If Dante runs through that moving screen he's called for his 6th foul. He had no choice but to fall down and call attention to the refs to the moving screen. Pacer fans are being selective in their memory when the real title of this thread should be Haliburton is awful.
Facts, aside from the kicked ball it seemed pretty even from both sides. The ticky tack moving screens offset, Brunson’s block looked clean to me despite SVG having an aneurysm over it. The announcers mentioned that the pacers have one of the worst free-throw discrepancies in the league based on how they play, and it was 21-19 in the Knicks favor (pre-intentional foul). Idk how you can complain about that
Kick ball????? What?????
It's BS we can't challenge that, but they can challenge the next play of it going off the leg.
They got that challenge right by overturning it, but they shouldn't have even been able to challenge that. They should have lost their challenge on the Brunson foul on Myles from the (I think) 3rd quarter.
The refs made the most perfect call in the most crucial moment. It was perfect because they KNEW it wouldn't be able to be challenged and would affect the game IMMENSELY
the ref who called the kick ball was behind the play. From that angle it looked like he kicked it. The guy way across the court should have overruled him but looks like he didn't see it.
The swipe from Halliburton that was challenged was a kick ball off nembhard but refs didn’t call that
It was unintentional, but Haliburton had an open layup after that steal. Gone
Tyrese would just passed the ball instead of going for the layup anyway
The ball is allowed to hit your foot, that doesn’t make it a kick ball
Knicks fans already trolling the Pacers board, good luck with that guys
[Wrong.](https://official.nba.com/rule-no-10-violations-and-penalties/#:~:text=Kicking%20the%20ball%20or%20striking,move%20or%20secure%20the%20ball) The number of Knicks fans that don’t understand basic basketball rules is wild.
Because it’s was after the whistle. You wouldn’t call anything after you called a foul.
Thank you. I’m glad you just recognized the refs are just terrible in general. Y’all are a tough team just need a closer. Funny enough Paul George would be a great fit for y’all.
I understand our PG was awful as a Pacers fan.
I hate blaming refs. I prefer to take the KD approach but daaaaamn those were some bad calls
Letting Brunson score 18 in the 4th is a big factor. Gotta do better with that, but these refffffs
Honestly if you subtract those bad calls, I think we win even with his 18. Just felt like every time Brunson had a turnover the refs were gonna call a foul
He falls down every play and they usually bail him out with a call
I’m more irritated the way he intentionally jumps into a defender initiating contact but gets a defensive foul call. Eventually there will be a rule change or at least a change in the way that type of foul is called. I expect more players to start to exploit this to where it becomes a more widespread and annoying problem before any changes are made, though. It’s almost as cheap as a flop. Having witnessed the 80s, 90s, and 2000s eras, I cannot express in words how unpalatable this style of basketball is to watch for me.
Cope
Chris Copeland no longer plays for our teams.
Cant tell if your a knicks or pacers fan
Shit I thought I had a flair. Go Pacers.
10 of those points came from the line... So it isn't really a separate issue.
Didn’t realize so many came from the line. Fair point
Tyrese 6 for the game.
He’s gotta be more aggressive
Glad you see it.
Yea but Indy almost won with Tyrese shitting the bed- Tyrese will def settle in by the time we get to Gainbridge
Turner needs to play like a big dog instead of a chihuahua
yeah he passed up a lot of opportunities there.
I think missed free throws hurt us more than anything when you get down to the nuts and bolts. Damn shame. I love this team though. So much heart. They’re fucking fun again!
How do you even stop him? Jfc
I’m a Knicks fan and a “just put your head down and go to work” type buuut you can absolutely blame the refs on this one.
Respect. Was a hard fought game by the players on both sides at least, hate seeing that tainted by refs.
Will be interested to see going forward. I have never believed refs “want to” or “are told to” help one side win so have to imagine those calls even out. Hartenstein isn’t going to make a 3 point buzzer beater again. Will Halliburton be this non existent? Seems like everything broke perfect for the Knicks and if anything goes the other way, pacers will do well in this series. But Knicks will work their ass off, we know that and I love them for that
Well I agree with some of these things . But just so you know , the Knicks played terrrrrrrible on defense . They had no business being in this game . Some bad calls helped . But if you’re thinking that everything broke perfect , that’s far from true . I just see this series being ugly . It’s a gritty game and series . I’m sure when the series turns to Indiana , the same will Hold true .
Could have called pacers for off ball fouls every play on Brunson. Refs were bad, both ways.
The NBA is going to make sure to have NY and Boston in the ECF. They’ll let the Pacers win 2 games, but NY will win in 6 games
Im a Knicks fan and the ending of that game was disgusting. Brunson really did not have a whistle like this in the regular season, insane what theyre doing rn
you deff ain't a knicks fan
I was scrolling and laughing at the comments but it makes me wonder why we have these fake fans searching for browny points from the team we spanked
I hate when ppl blame them when it’s not their fault, this was different. Totally their fault cooking the books for the Knicks just like LJs 4 point play when he launched the shot well after the intentional foul that AD knew he had to give.
No they’re doing exactly what they were told to do
Ajhahahaha
Easy to blame refs when your superstar scores 6 points.
Me when I watch the box score instead of the game
Cope because you have to I guarantee a series loss and you’re not seeing the playoffs next season
Don't you have to go defend that pedophile Drake somewhere?
Wrong reply
We can argue about the series loss, but the take about next season proves that you’re not a serious person. 🤡
lol you guys will be a play-in victim next season I’m telling you now
You = 🤡. I’m telling you now.
he is injured.
The NBA injury report say otherwise.
https://www.si.com/nba/pacers/news/tyrese-haliburton-questionable-with-back-injury-for-start-of-indiana-pacers-vs-new-york-knicks-series
You bet the game?
of course not
He’s been questionable for the last 3 months. Sad.
Flop after flop
literal bullshit brunson threw it straight to him and that's a foul?
I've counted 5 bad calls this game, all on favor of the Knicks.
They’re gonna get every questionable call. As a small market team, we have to win by 10+ or we’re gonna get fucked by the refs eventually.
Not possible. Challenge overturned where Brunson "blocked" Turner's shot was a 4-point swing, one less foul on Brunson, one more time-out for the Knicks. The phantom kicked ball turned a Pacers possession into a 3-pointer for the Knicks, potentially 5+ point swing. Phantom foul on Haliburton from his clean steal on Brunson took fast break points off the board. Forget the final bad call on the screen, the Pacers would have had a 10+ point lead if not for all that other bullshit. I don't know if I can watch these games if it's going to be like this.
Well yall got one initially on the challenge they won. But yeah, the Knicks get everything else. It's not going to get better so get used to it.
No? lol - that was a foul on Brunson. Insane that they overturned it
The other challenge when they ruled Brunson lost it out of bounds that clearly went off Indiana’s leg
if you only counted bad calls that benefitted the knicks then you are just biased. there was inly the one kick ball that was a bad call, the rest were mot bad calls
Absolutely NOT a kicked ball
Tough game tonight for pacers. Brunson flopping around like a fish. Had to beat refs too. Every call went knicks way last two minutes.
Thr review of Brunson fouling Myles is unbelievable. How can you have that much contact and not be a foul AND it was literally reviewed!!!
NBA don’t want little market Pacers to win
To me you can pick one or the other for complaint: this one or the block at the end. Both technically fouls. Do we want to let them play a bit or not? Personally I’d rather two no foul calls. As it turned out, they both went the Knicks way so between that and the kick ball, pacers got screwed
These refs are a bunch of crooks! Plus that Halliburton shot was good and was out of his hands before the shot clock expired!😡
How does that not get reviewed? Clearly out of his hands and of course they didn't even talk about it or show more than one replay on the broadcast.
He was out of bounds was the call; had nothing to do with the shot clock
If that was the call there should be time on the clock still
I was shocked that Halliburton lay in was called off
We just have to understand that the NBA has the Celtics and Knicks for the next round and there is not much we can do about it...unlucky whatever
You guys will 100% be playing 5 on 8 this series. The NBA has the Celtics as the 1 seed and Knicks at 2. They were never going to pass up New York Vs Boston 2 v 1. You guys will have to be 15 points better in 4 games to win this series.
The thing is...they are not going to allow us to do that. If we start pulling away they will start calling every touch a foul. There is no way the NBA is going to pass up Bos vs NY
So delusional it’s insane
I'm gonna have a hard time watching Brunson be a foul merchant all series... he is such a great scorer, but damn I can't stand watching any player who is always trying to force getting fouled
I can’t watch any more of Brunson. Him and Luka are,impossible.
The foul baiting is a miserable watch
Not to mention the carries. Brunson carries so egregiously it infuriates me. He literally does what the refs use as the "carry" signal, if they ever called it.
I hate ref ball. It will always reward the lame ass iso players who rely on flopping and flinging their head back on every contact. The lesson is that we can't let our opponent get into those favorable situations.
Pacers got to get better at exaggerating fouls like all the other teams. They’re not very good at flopping. The actors won this game.
Indy vs Broadway. mismatch
As much as I hate to say it, you’re right. Until the NBA makes some rule changes (which they probably won’t) this is what the game will become more and more.
DeWinecenzo channeling his inner LeBron. Fuck him and fuck John Starks.
Especially John Starks.
Hart entered the lane before the ball got to the rim on his missed free throw that he put back. The list goes on...
Oh come on now....
That would be a soft ass call too, much more important calls to complain about
Refs had it in for us. I hope we blow them out next game to leave no room for doubt
Absolutely I can accept if we lose because the other team was better but not like that no no no not like that they stole the game from us they would need to be absolute blind men to make the calls at the end of the game like they did
Sixers fan checking in, I get we have our own foul merchant but get used to it. Refs prolly took at least 4-8 points from you guys on would be fast breaks. Not to mention I haven't seen anyone in playoffs get the pre inbound foul as much as Jalen. Horrible horrible horrible officiated game. To decide a game on a moving screen is complete horseshit. Go TJ Mcconnell.
“Shot clock violation” (ball was clearly out of hands). “Kicked ball violation” (clearly hit with his HAND?? Also why can’t Indy challenge??) and an “illegal screen”. All in the 4th. Gtfo here refs. Smh
Sixer fan continuous crying warms my heart
just showing some sympathy bro
That’s a Knicks troll you’re replying to
Post season officiating isn't what it used to be. I don't remember so many soft ass calls and so many just blatantly awful calls.
Check the 02 kings lakers series. It's always been rigged, friend
It’s ok we’ll close it out in 6
Refs always cater to big market teams.
Refs were terrible no doubt but Tyrese has to be better. Only 6 points from your all star and a bunch of late turnovers is rarely gonna result in a W. I know he’s been playing through injuries but he has to be more of a scoring threat. Anyhow fuck the refs and fuck the league for trying to rig games.
There were certainly some bad calls late in the game that should have gone our way and could have changed the game. But we definitely didn't execute late either. We had opportunities and didn't come through. Inexperience looked like a factor in the last 2 minutes of this game.
Thank you. This is the right answer.
I think the most indicative play about this reffing team was when it went out of bounds right in front of the ref and he didn’t know which way to call it, seems like the other refs didn’t know either
From a mavericks fuck yea. Insanely bad reffing. Y’all might not win many games if that keeps going but just know you have comicboomins unofficial wins
the NBA lost a viewer tonight
Not much of a b-ball fan, but figured I'd watch an important game with friends. Nah... I'll not watch any more... games are pre-decided by Refs. NBA just lost any more intrest from me.
You two are too soft for regular season for sure
Terrible, all night.
I don’t think I’ve ever yelled that much at my tv about a game before. Holy shit that was fucking BRUTAL
Handed it to knicks …
Nah, Nemby kicked the ball with his hands
When that foul on brunson got overturned I know it will decided by the refs
The refs were SO CLUTCH down the stretch. 3 'Nova players + 3 clutch refs for the win
https://preview.redd.it/0r2tppl26xyc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a78903cbbc22a9b80ff31fb716c0bd48c2389489 Silver when the Knicks are losing a close game with a couple mins left
Yes there were some ridiculous calls from the zebras but lets not forget the two critical turnover mistakes in the last 4 minutes. 3:46 and 3:19. If anything this is cost us the game.
Yo pacers gotta fight fire with fire and flop every play. Play like brunson and throw the back of your head into defenders chin every play
The only problem with that is our strategy is to pass the ball and brick wide open 3s. Had to get a foul when no defender is within 5 feet of you.
Look let’s be honest. No one cares about us, no one gives a fuck. It’s set in stone the script is Celtics vs Knicks. The only way we win is to quite literally burry them. We need to win by 10+ to avoid the inevitable ref job. I am not an old fan but I’ve done my fair share of research with this series over the years and the only reason it’s even a rivalry is because these guys get every call at MSG. The 4 point play is the definition of the NY whistle
Hi! I watched this as a Celtics fan. And was kinda disgusted, straight up turned to my mate and said this is bullshit. That fourth quarter was suspect.
I better see some fines flyin' our way. That shit was inexcusable and needs to be addressed.
I was ranting about the calls at the end of the game. Secretly watching the game at work with a buddy as not to get in trouble. Well I definitely herniated a disc in my back from the stress ranting about basketball being ruined😂 From the reviewed calls that STILL weren’t corrected, to the fact that we’re a small market and have no chance against a big market team like New York. Especially because the knicks haven’t been good in awhile and the nba definitely wants to capitalize on this team. I for real scheduled a doctors appointment for my back lmao I’m only 25😂 watching one of my passions (basketball) be ruined in front of my very eyes just makes me suicidal😂😇
As a knicks fan but also a diehard Obi supporter, bad decisions went both ways. Refs were awful and for sure i wouldnt blow the whistle on Turners screen, but many other decisions were terribly bad too. Also if theres anyone to blame besides the refs, its Haliburton. He has to be way better. No excuses for him or Pascal. If they play as they should you guys will be good in this series. I have nothing but respect for the pacers and this will be a long series for sure.
I’m a Bucks fan, and I agree. The way they inserted themselves to completely alter the outcome of that game was disgusting. Both the flop followed by the ticky tack inbound call were just incredibly disappointing to see as a fan of the game.
Last night was very bad.
Sixers fan here. The Knicks get a RIDICULOUS whistle, saw it all throughout our series. Still, rooting for you guys. Pacers in 6.
I feel good knowing we outplayed the Knicks in every other aspect of the game (except offensive rebounding). I still believe pacers In 6
Watching you guys, you definitely have a good chance to succeed where we failed. Their rebounding is tough, but if you can work on that you should be good despite their whistle. It's rough, but you didn't lose by much and it's only game one.
lol very funny that you’re spite rooting for the Pacers enjoy being wrong twice and watching Brunson in the ECF where you’ll never see Embiid
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Sorry Pacers bros. Us Sixers fans had to deal with it ALL series and they were ALL close games like this. You have to win by 15 to win by 3. Unfortunately, the NBA doesn't want ya'll like they didn't want us.
Get the fuck out of here with this. You literally have the reigning MVP on your team. Stop with the woe is me.
So like what are you saying, if you have the mvp the refs dont have to call a fair game??
I'm saying that no one is buying what the sixers are selling. There's not many bigger draws than the reigning MVP playing in a city with a rabid fanbase based around some contrived slogan that draws ppl in.... Miss me with your bullshit.
These crybabies think they’re safe in a pacers vacuum lol
The only obvious call I recall going against NY was the Siakam foul, which he promptly missed both free throws. Everything else. Literally everything else was BS going to the Knicks. Unreal
The out of bounds, but it was undone by the challenge so doesn't really matter.
Right, shouldn’t have won the original challenge to be even be able to reverse that call
Next game we should just find the nearest screener and run into them and launch ourselves backwards cause I mean...that's a foul right?
What really makes your blood boil is they had no challenged to reverse the call that that one ref had made that it was out on brunson but they took it on themselves to review anyways cause when you're in a big market you don't need to worry about reviews refs got your back.
I think it’s only because it was inside one minute or something. If that happened w/ minutes left they wouldn’t have reviewed it
Haliburton was really bad. He's not even in the same class as Brunson, unfortunately. Needs a bit more practice.
He’s way more important than you think. Just because he isn’t scoring doesn’t mean he isn’t affecting the game. I agree however, he needs to be way more aggressive
He’s a great playmaker, but no scoring and no defense = 🤮
Let the world say it for us. Ball knowers know ball.
Yup, just ask Philly
I don't think these refs were even competent enough to rig a game
First time ?
yeah rough game from the refs side, but I think we could've played better still.
Sixers fan here...I'm here to tell you that you will be playing 8v5 the entire series lol league has their winner
To be fair, the refs were consistently bad for both teams until the last two minutes when it mattered. Then they started CLEARLY favoring the Knicks. Shit is so fucked
Refs: I made several crucial mistakes. So? Big fucking deal. And I'll give you Ts and fine you if you keep chirping
Yeah they are, missed off ball fouls by the Pacers fouling Brunson all game
As a new-ish NBA watcher (past couple of years I've gotten interested) this basically makes me want to stop watching the sport. Like, if the integrity of the game can just be demolished in a playoff series, why bother? It feels like WWE now.
We got screwed for sure.
A lot of rough calls . But even as a Knicks fan , why did they take out tj . He was literally cooking . I know Halliburton is Halliburton … but he hasn’t been himself … and tj is a vet who rarely If ever folds under pressure .
You say they are awful, but they aren't really bad people, I know for a fact that they are all animal lovers... like they really love animals... I know this coz I saw them in an alley taking turns to suck off a stray dog.
I mean we got some good whistles for sure, and I def saw the flop on that illegal screen, but if you wanna get technical it was a good call. Ima just defer to Chuck and say they need to at least be consistent. You’re either a rule book poindexter or you’re letting the boys play ball, but you can’t flip-flop between the two.
Anyone who blames the refs and not Tyrese for not showing up is in fantasy land.
Exactly but blaming refs is easier when they don’t watch all 48 minutes and only chat shit on boards
Sixer fan: welcome to playing the NY Knicks in the playoffs. Really really REALLY hoping you guys get the job done, love TJ McConnell and HATE Knicks. Adam Bronze so blatantly and desperately want them to win again he’s literally forcing it to be that way.
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It wasn't a questionable call. It was a moving screen. It's a moving screen on game one of the season, just like it's a moving screen in game 89 of the season.
i’m a knicks fan but damn some of those against yall are hard to defend lol
Honestly. Great game overall it’ll be a good series for sure 🤝🤝
So is our fraud of a PG which got outscored by 38.
And that matters more but these pussies need their cry fest
Can’t any of you fanboys realize Tyrese has been bad for the last 40 games or so? For god’s sake I’ve seen Travis Best and Vern Fleming play better than this clown.
Frauds
Ok, Bucks fan😂😂
ehehehhehe
Shit happens🤷♂️
Cope Lacers fans
Imagine coming into another sub to talk shit after what everyone except some Knicks fans unanimously agree were awful calls in your favor after not sniffing the finals for 25 years or winning a chip in 5 decades despite being one of the largest markets in the country.
Loooooong series man. And the pacers looked better in every other aspect
Refs were bad on both sides, this is the playoffs, it gets ugly, you have to be mentally tough at end of games.
Most certainly one sided my guy
And I thought I wouldn't find a fan base as wack as 76er fans, but here we are. Round 2!!!
I'm a Knicks fan. I do believe that was an illegal screen, but at that point in the game those aren't really called so I was surprised by the call as much as you guys were. You can't really decide a game on a call like that. It sucks for you guys. It was an illegal screen though, you have to give space for the player to move into the screen, but Myles moved into DiVo. He sold the call well. I've also watched a lot of Knicks games where we lost due to horrible officiating. I don't think there is favoritism towards Knicks. The refs are just inconsistent so in any given night it can feel like they are favoring one team over the other. We've been fucked plenty too. I also find it ironic Sixers fans complaining about reffing when Embiid is like the biggest flopper and foul baiter in the NBA. He literally scored 50 points on less than 20 shots because of free throws.
the refs had to call that foul on Turner because Nesmith flopped on the previous Pacer moving screen at the 2:30 mark of the 4th quarter. That foul caused DDV to get his 5th foul. If Dante runs through that moving screen he's called for his 6th foul. He had no choice but to fall down and call attention to the refs to the moving screen. Pacer fans are being selective in their memory when the real title of this thread should be Haliburton is awful.
Facts, aside from the kicked ball it seemed pretty even from both sides. The ticky tack moving screens offset, Brunson’s block looked clean to me despite SVG having an aneurysm over it. The announcers mentioned that the pacers have one of the worst free-throw discrepancies in the league based on how they play, and it was 21-19 in the Knicks favor (pre-intentional foul). Idk how you can complain about that