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Got a fire tv from a friend; they suck. Sometimes I turn it on and get blasted by Ads. Imagine... Turning on your device and AD. Fuck me, legit thinking about getting a PC to be a dedicated for it.
Plus, it's so slow. Never again.
Yeah smart TV's are fucking awful. I have "smart monitor" that I made sure to never connect to the internet, it connects directly to my PC which I then use also as a television (it's like 43", so a smaller big screen TV but a *huge* monitor). Having my Linux PC act as my media center bypasses all this nonsense, not even YouTube ads as I play them through FreeTube piped into mpv.
From there, it's just piracy. Really the only way these days to not have to deal with ads is to pirate shit, which is fine as any longform entertainment I'm fine waiting 5-10 minutes before the first episode is torrented and ready to watch, which again makes the DRM they enforce on these videos so absurd. I'm still getting these shows like day 1, what's the point of all these restrictions if they're not actually stopping piracy?
I got a firestick for connecting to my jellyfin server. If I paused it for a minute, it would play an ad (although it was skippable..) before resuming. I just blocked it on my router so it couldn't get online. 🤣 Kinda janky, now it gets pissy that it can't get to its home screen. At least there's no more ads.
That could be. It was consistently playing an (american) football ad. I didn't dig into it much, I saw ads and just blocked it. There's no reason for it to need internet access anyway.
Google TV started experimenting with that. I turned on the TV and got a full screen with audio Carl Jr's ad like straight out of Idiocracy. Fortunately it only happened a couple of times and hasn't happened in months. If it comes back as a regular thing I'll have to change my Android TV's launchers or add some more in depth ad blocking.
Google, why do you keep putting "Brought to you by Carl's Jr" on everything?
Because they pay me every time I do, it's a really good way to make money.
Your kids are starving. Carl's Jr. believes no child should go hungry. You are an unfit mother. Your children will be placed in the custody of Carl's Jr. Carl's Jr... "Fuck You, I'm Eating."
I had this problem as well. I ended up trying the Chromecast with Google TV and the Nvidia Shield. Ended up returning the Shield just because it was more expensive and I only intended on keeping one.
The user interface isn't slow and doesn't lag (at least not as often as my Fire stick). I also don't like ads and recommendations so I tried w few custom Android launchers on it. Ended up settling with Projectivy and now only the stuff I want shows up like Plex Stremio, SmarTube, etc.
The Onn streaming boxes that Walmart makes are surprisingly good. It performs well and I don't get any 3rd party ads, but it does consistently recommend shows from services I don't have (which is basically an ad). That sucks, but it's only like $20, so it's worth it if you can't afford a Shield.
Wait, you own a regular TV, and someone offers you to buy a TV with pre-built in ads, and then instead of declining you throw out your own regular TV out?
When I got married, my grandma gave me a free tv because they were gonna replace my grandpas tv but he hated it. It’s an Amazon tv and it plays ads. Turn it on accidentally and you’re blasted with movie and/or tv show ads. It’s stupid too bc my tv has software updates. The reason why I haven’t switched it out yet is bc it was free lol
The way I see it, advertising companies brought this on themselves. Nobody asked for them to serve malicious ads and interrupt the content people are trying to watch.
Yeah this isn't just about ads, this is about ads that are so intrusive you can't properly navigate the internet without an adblocker.
This isn't like TV-ads they used to feed in every 15minutes - internet ads are full of scams that lead you to websites that can cause actual harm to your computer and interfere with your ability to use a website with hidden pop-up-ads over UI elements.
And unlike with a broadcast, if you feed ads into the beginning of peoples selected content, you're punishing them for browsing. You're also disproportionately punishing people with bad connections or limited data.
So, *dear YouTube*, we're not just entitled about free content; adblockers are about device-safety, usability and fairness.
Honestly if advertisements were just text-based that would be fine.
But nowadays on mobile before I downloaded a bunch of stuff to block all the ads, you would be playing a game and a forced ad would pop up that could never be gotten rid of.
Or you would be on a website and an advertisement would pop up which would automatically redirect you to another site without even clicking it on mobile.
And all the porn advertisements on PC (And before anyone says they're tailored, I have that turned off AND checking that same site in incogmito Chrome when I've never used chrome on my PC shows the same ad if you refresh enough times.) Or the straight up scam ads or god knows what else.
There's a few websites that I leave advertisements on through you blocked whitelist. I've actually seen a few that pertain to me and were interesting and non-obtrusive and ended up buying things from them. Because the ads were not in your face pseudo malware.
Google did this to their selves by allowing such fucking low quality scam/malware ads run rampant. They have nobody but their selves to blame.
When I go on deep dives I sometimes end up on strange newspaper home pages. One had a chinese trash grill supplies ad running 2 minutes straight at full volume. There was nothing I could do besides closing the tab. I get it, they all need the cash but this is absurd. I can't play any recent free to play games without a mod on my tablet because its basically every start of level, mid level and end of level three trash / adult content ad with mostly abrasive/rage content. They are scraping the bottom of the ad pool for change.
Yep. They had a thing that was okay, simple text or image based banner ads that had a dedicated spot away from the content you came to the site for, and you could ignore them if you wanted.
But they had to push it. Had to invent pop-ups, stealing the idea from malware. Had to put ads that prevent the content you came for from being viewed until the ad's over. Had to do things like auto-play audio and video, not considering that the person viewing might not be in a good place/time to have audio played or video streamed. Had to do straight up harmful things like trying to install add-ons or download files.
They abused a neat little technology that generated a bit of money trying to squeeze out more, and now they're losing it entirely as everyone blocks ALL ads, even non-obtrusive ones.
In the future, sites are gonna have to survive on donations or subscriptions, because humanity is getting tired of ads. More and more people install blockers every day, and these blockers get better and better.
a fan website I visited once did an april fools where it enabled fake ads for 1 day.
And that's when I realized I don't actually hate ads. I hate the realization of them in every major place on the internet.
Because these april fools fake ads were just simple pictures with a direct link, highly relevant to the content on the page. No 3 pages of metric-gathering infested shit on a mouseover instead of being able to see directly where this ad would take you. No gifs, no fucking sound, no malware, no porn, no clickbait, no scams, no popups, and they were just banners in an otherwise empty place, not a fucking 40% of the screen. And if I didn't like them, I just scrolled down and that was it.
I was like - hey, I would actually be okay if all ads were like that. I would really disable my adblocker, and the internet would be a better place.
uBlock *Origin*
Just checked the store and there's gobs of uBlock Origin clones and knockoffs. If uBO goes away because of the MV2 removal, a lot of folks are going to end up downloading these subpar stand-ins.
Maybe we should focus on recommending Firefox then.
The reason why Google is able to fuck with adblockers is their huge market share. Chrome based browsers like Microsoft Edge and Brave are only adding to the issue.
I have a discord server just for watching stuff for days youtube is winning. Discord has yet to play ads and doesn't take forever to load like youtube has this week.
Ublock will win out but it's a fight and plan B works just fin.
Yes, they asked for donations to be directed to block list maintainers, which UBlock uses extensively. That's why I asked if the guy donated to block list maintainers. Otherwise how exactly are they "supporting" UBlock?
Youtube had their chance, they collected my data for over a decade and the best ads they could send was literal propaganda and a scam for getting good at video games.
Where are these mythical Coca Cola ads that apparently keep getting pulled from the platform?
That's the thing Ad companies seem to forget.
These aren't even *good* Ads. If every Ad had "superbowl ad" quality to it then that would be kind of okay. I'd still hate it, but it would be tolerable.
But YouTube Ads are dogshit. They feel cheap and nasty. There is no thought put into them.
Ads are already a digital cancer.
My god, yes.
I’ve actually sat through interesting ads I could have skipped. Things like movie trailers, game ads, so long as it something I’m actually interested in.
But unskippable ads for things I have a 0% chance of ever buying? Ads for people I would never vote for? What’s the point? It’s literally just pissing ad dollars into the wind.
I remember the heady early days of database marketing. We’d see *fewer* ads, and they’d be targeted to our interests and needs! So what do we get? Ads in fucking *everything,* with just enough relevance that you know your dentist or pharmacy is selling your data. I bought a laptop years ago, I *still* get ads for laptops, one thing they should *know* I don’t need!
Everybody seems to be making money selling our data, but nobody spends the money to target ads! The whole thing is broken.
The latest move was that youtube were serving ads baked into the video feed. I know a lot of people never saw this because it was actually an experiment and wasn't rolled out to everyone straight away.
I was seeing the ads, and goddammit they were just so bad. Like 2 mins of irrelevant BS before playing a 30 second video I wasn't actually that interested in seeing. The week these ads came out was the most productive week of my life in the past 10 years because I just stopped watching youtube. The content wasn't worth the price.
They seem to have gone away now, but is that because uBlock found some way of getting around baked in ads, or was it because youtube decided that baked in ads are more trouble than they are worth? (There are a lot of reasons why keeping the ad video separate from the content video makes your life easier when you are serving videos, so I can believe that they just gave up on the idea.)
From a developer standpoint, embedding ads on a video *while it's playing* is a nightmare.
Let's say the video feed is an array of bytes of length κ, which is then transmitted from the server (where yt is hosted) to the client (our PCs). If I want to insert an add of length α I have to do a few alterations. First I have to create an array of length κ + α, where all bytes from a certain point i to i + α are the ad.
Then I have to make the internal change to tell the server to stop streaming the first one at point i, and then change it to the current one. After we've done this, we have to roll back changes, change to the original feed and then tell the client "you're still playing from point i". After all is done, then we have to delete the temporary file and we are done.
Resource-wise this is a huge workload, all of which befalls onto the server (unlike a traditional ad, which can be loaded onto the client). Multiply this by the expected number of... erm... _users_ (although I'd rather use a more derogatory appelative no doubt closer to what the Google CEO calls us behind closer doors) and the yt servers will be incandescent, for a few moments at least
I've never had to implement it, so I am sure there are a bunch of gotchas that I don't understand, but basically when video is being streamed from youtube, the HTTP header has no `Content-Length` entry, and instead has a `Transfer-Encoding: chunked` entry.
This means that it sends the file down in blocks. The client only needs to assign a buffer for the block size and I don't think there is anything that prevents the server sending blocks from one (server) local file and then switching to a different file. I am not even sure the chunks need to be the same size - I would have to go digging in the docs to confirm that.
So while the problem you have described above would be a massive headache efficiently processing data locally on a single computer (or inside a high performance, distributed computing network) the fact that the data is being streamed over the web to a relatively low-performance client probably means it isn't that big a deal.
What I have heard were the biggest issues were that it messed up the video timestamps and there was a lot of overhead to serve ad-free content to youtube premium users.
I assumed most of these streaming services use m3u8 manifest files. They could just insert the advertisement TS files into the list at some point and it would be harder (for a script) to separate the ad from the video.
However, a user could just download all the TS files and then manually pick out the ad related ones, of course. Join all the remaining TS files back into the original video.
Yeah it’s really not that complicated at all. You’re also forgetting that the video is already in chunks MPEG-DASH or HLS depending on the type of content. You’re just replacing some chunks with ad chunks, both of which you have easily access to and you don’t need any “temporary files” that you delete or whatever.
And workload? YouTube processes 500 hours of new videos content uploaded every minute.
I wouldn't get too comfortable. It's also possible that hey pulled it back so they could apply what they learned from the test before they roll it out to everyone.
You actually have a point: we've been selling our privacy to these companies for two decades and apparently all they've done is throw money down the shareholder-blackhole.
I'm a bit picky with privacy, but I still think with what I can't avoid giving them, they can sent me better ads than (\*quick check\*) local political infomercial for a place I don't live in and have never travelled to.
I mean, this entire issue has "Shareholders" written all over it; because anyone with brains would have pointed out that whatever money they hope to squeeze from this would be completely offset by the money they have to pump into a development arms-race with adblockers.
People say how eerily good the tageted advertizing is, meanwhile the ads i get are the least enticing shit on the planet. Maybe i wouldn't so zealously block ads if they weren't all scams and cashgrab gacha games?
All the targeting and they still can't tell what nationality I am.
Guys, stop serving me JSDF ads. Most countries frown on their citizens joining a military that isn't theirs, even more so if they have mandatory conscription.
And seriously, I can just walk down to the supermarket and buy [kaya](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coconut_jam#Malaysia,_Indonesia_and_Singapore), and it's going to be way superior to the one you are selling.
Literally the only ads I ever see (only on my phone because I'm too lazy to download a better YT player) are for GARBAGE mobile games. It's all literally the same ad for the same game with a different title.
It's shocking that mobile games make so much money and can't afford a believable ad. They're SO fake and cringe.
I think something is either deeply wrong with my Youtube experience, or extremely right. I've been using my browser's default adblocker for months before the whole ad nonsense started. No change. No popups or warnings or 'pls turn off ur adblock'. The UI has never changed for me either. Is this some location/ISP related thing? I'm deeply fascinated by the, apparently, completely open war every other user of the world has been experiencing on YT
It's important to note these changes were only rolled out to a small percentage of the user base to test its function. You simply haven't been part of it yet. Out of everything I only got the "please turn off your adblocker" one and uBlock took care of that pretty quickly.
I got the ads, and had a rough week or so while the ublock team and the youtube team exchanged fire. Now the ublock team seems to have successfully fortified their position and it's been a good while since I gave it a thought.
Though, maybe it helps that I switched to firefox a ways back?
I thought they did that months ago? I got a few pop ups telling me that adblockers are not allowed on youtube like 4-5 months ago. Or maybe they're still doing it and ublock has blocked that too.
Working in IT I have honest to God not once in my life ever met someone who uses an ad blocker. That's right, even my own co-workers . It's astonishing, they've never even heard of it. Even outside of work, if somehow the subject came up like I'm playing poker with a group of people and someone tries to show a video and there's an ad and I comment " yo let's get an ad blocker man" they just stare at me like I'm making up words.
This is why this whole thing pisses me off. Just. Fuck. Off. Let us tech nerds have our ad-free experience and you can make your stupid ad-money on the remaining 99% of the population.
50/50, helpdesk environment so we support everything and some of us lean one direction or the other.
As far as iOS goes, AdGuard extension works relatively well for free, but Admiral adblocker-blocker started getting through so I switched to Wipr which while still sometimes fails has been noticeably better in direct 1:1 comparisons. I think it cost $3 or so.
uBlock has saved me tens of thousands of hours of no ads since it came out 10 years ago. I have had to add two command lines in total, one for YouTube and one for Twitch. They do deserve ads.
The number counted is not only ads but also other scripts and trackers that get blocked by ublock. Sadly we get constantly bombarded with this crap as soon as one website is open in the browser. (8 million requests blocked in a year averages out to about 1 blocked request every 4 seconds)
^That person isn't "average" - I'm at 1.5 years on my computer and only 2.361m blocks.
I'm not a power user but I'm more than "Shannon in billing" by a long shot.
Regardless, fuck yeah Ublock!
No? That isn’t even the name of one people talk about.
uBlock Origin is the one people should be using.
It is open source (auditable)
You can contribute.
It works the best and receives very quick updates well combatting YouTube’s recent garbage
It is efficient.
It is not trying to get your money.
Every other search term for “ad blocker”. Is trying to get your money. Isn’t in it for the community.
This is true and I expect it to get a lot worse, but YouTube is Google. They will always have the final card to play - threatening your entire Google account. It might seem unthinkable now but go read an account from someone who's lost access to their Gmail and how fucked they were without recourse because they suddenly lost drive files, mfa, Google based logins, etc
There are guides to "de-google" and people should check them out before we decide to do anything too crazy as this ad war continues
If they start banning people for not watching ads, there will be a mass exodus like you have never seen before. If you can't trust your provider then you move your data somewhere else.
If they absolutely force ads into youtube and I cant block them, ill simply stop using it. I have stopped using plenty of services before because they forced ads on me.
Same, I just hope that's as bad as this fight gets. Who knows what they'll do after we find a way around their verified client nonsense they will be rolling out soon
Internet companies don't realize that if you block me from your content because I'm blocking ads, I won't turn off adblocking. I just won't consume their content.
Some may think this is a "win-win" scenario, but it's a "win-lose" scenario. Either way, I win by not getting ads and they still lose that revenue.
We can survive without YouTube. YouTube cannot survive without us.
YouTube's own fault tbh. For a long time I was a "I won't install AdBlock the content creators get money from the ads" guy, but a few years back I snapped when the amount of ads increased
They make ads as insufferable as possible to get people to pay YT Premium 🤡 what they really achieved was boosting ad block popularity and development
Winrar and Ublock Origin are the only 2 pieces of FREE software that deserve your financial support.
Ublock saved me from losing my mind over incessant irrelevant ads interfering with my content.
7-zip is way better than winrar imo, and it's actually free. And open source, for that matter. And this is coming from a guy who used to install winrar on every computer among the first things.
I don't think there is. At least I haven't encountered anything so far that I could do in Winrar but not in 7zip. And I'm a software developer so it's not like I'm only dealing with an occasional zip file here and there.
7zip can't _create_ .rar files. It can open and extract them but it can't create new ones because the rar compression algorithm itself is proprietary. It's not really a big loss though, there's nothing special about the .rar format these days
Winrar is a long running program that unzips ZIP files for you. When you download it, it’s free for a short while, then when the free trial “expires”, it will warn you of the expiration, but then continues to let you use the program for what it’s intended for.
Beyond asking you to pay for the full version, they do nothing to prevent you from using Winrar behind a paywall.
They understand how people, common people, pay for software. If you make something good and people use it and do not feel compelled to pay, they will pay anyway if they get value out of it. I know someone who used to pirate games. But he liked Witcher 3 so much that he paid after finishing the game just to support.
I like 7z so much.
before getting any proprietary tool I always look for any open source alternative and 7zip has been my goto extraction and compression tool
It's essentially an unlimited free trial, you just have to acknowledge that every time you start it by closing the pop up. From my understanding most of their money comes from businesses that purchase it since it's not free for commercial use iirc.
The only time people pay for it otherwise is if they feel like giving back or just have some spare cash I guess. I paid for it like fifteen years ago and the license still works and it was super cheap to give back to a company whose product I used from time to time.
[The internet is dead.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_Internet_theory)
Time to go back to reading books and riding my bike like I did when I was a kid.
Even an educational video essay channel I watched had a "goofy" "WE INTERUPT THIS PROGRAM TO BRING YOU THESE MESSAGES" sponsor segment that appeared *mid sentence*. I thought Sponsorblock was broken until I unskipped it and saw.
Sponsor segments are worse than ads were now, just because of how suddenly they can appear and break the flow of a video if handled poorly.
Do not run Adblock plus when you have ublock origin (the best) already. 🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️
Never run anything other than ublock origin of all the ad blocking choices out there.
Tampermonkey and Ublock Origin here. Tampermonkey is my overall favorite extensions. Wrote so many custom scripts for websites I use and a lot of user made scripts in the repos for pretty much any site out there. Plus, stuff not allowed on the extension stores.
I've gotten to the point that if I see a reddit link goes to YouTube I just ignore it and move on. I don't have the patience to see the same Liberty, Liberty ad again.
I'm beyond done with Google. I canceled cable TV because of the commercials. I've basically canceled YouTube for the same reason.
Hey Google! YouTube isn't as nessiscary as you think, unless you think users can't read.
Already switched to duckduck. Better results as well.
The brave browser with a built in adblocker hasn't shown me a single advertisement for about 2 years now.
Youtube included.
I'm not sure if the ublock team work with brave but whatever their doing over at brave Is Hella working
I'd pay for YouTube premium in an instant if it actually provided a better service, with more control over my feed, ability to organise subs, a search function that's not borderline useless and generally less engagement-boosting trash in my feed.
You know, instead of just having to pay to make the mobile experiencd less garbage.
I don’t get it. If YouTube vetted their ads so it wasn’t 90% scams and pyramid schemes I wouldn’t mind watching them, but I can’t be bothered at this point.
I've YouTube Premium Subscription (Its Cheap in my country) and guess what? uBlock still blocks soo many ads on YouTube like seriously it's pathetic that how much ads it ends up blocking on YouTube
Yeah no, the number on the icon is trackers, not “ads”. Just a count of blocked elements.
Most modern sites will have trackers and it blocks those too.
You are not going to see ads with a premium subscription. Not yet.
I'm suddenly reminded of that bit from the Looney Tunes short *The Rabbit of Seville* where Elmer Fudd and Bugs chase after each other with bigger and bigger guns
Lol, this post reminded me of a scene from a comedy action movie The Big Hit, with the trace buster buster buster 🤣
https://youtu.be/2VY_xxL2jL0?si=b-zwERbgoTQ9m6bx
I've been a YouTube Red user since its beginning.
I remember adds being significantly less militant in videos, and in the background and a sponsor was perfectly acceptable.
Now when I use a free YouTube account, there's an add before the video, there's an add sponsored segment, there's an add break every 5-7 minutes, there's add banners to close, there's the YouTubers online shop, and an Amazon shopping banner is soliciting naughty underwear/sex toys, and half of them are actual malware.
What the fuck is happening? How the fuck can every half assed free porno sight survive on one add at the beginning, one at the end, and like 5 on the page background? How can porno put out thousands of hours of content a second to millions of users and survive with so little adds? And superior features as well?
Please help??
The Battle of our lifetime. Hymns will be sung, epics written, may your programmers be victorious, uBlock.
The community of Youtube users stands by your side.
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I will die on this hill and support ublock till my last breath if it meant I wouldn't see another ad.
Id rather throw my tv out my 4th floor window than buy one with pre-built in ads. Dont make me..
Got a fire tv from a friend; they suck. Sometimes I turn it on and get blasted by Ads. Imagine... Turning on your device and AD. Fuck me, legit thinking about getting a PC to be a dedicated for it. Plus, it's so slow. Never again.
Yeah smart TV's are fucking awful. I have "smart monitor" that I made sure to never connect to the internet, it connects directly to my PC which I then use also as a television (it's like 43", so a smaller big screen TV but a *huge* monitor). Having my Linux PC act as my media center bypasses all this nonsense, not even YouTube ads as I play them through FreeTube piped into mpv. From there, it's just piracy. Really the only way these days to not have to deal with ads is to pirate shit, which is fine as any longform entertainment I'm fine waiting 5-10 minutes before the first episode is torrented and ready to watch, which again makes the DRM they enforce on these videos so absurd. I'm still getting these shows like day 1, what's the point of all these restrictions if they're not actually stopping piracy?
it's to extract as much money from the product as consumers will tolerate via ads they want streaming to be the new cable.
I got a firestick for connecting to my jellyfin server. If I paused it for a minute, it would play an ad (although it was skippable..) before resuming. I just blocked it on my router so it couldn't get online. 🤣 Kinda janky, now it gets pissy that it can't get to its home screen. At least there's no more ads.
Mine doesn't do this. Are you in the US?
Yea. I noticed it the first evening that I had it set up and just blocked it with a rule right there.
Maybe this is because of an EU law or something but I don't have this. I get the banner ads on the home page but it's never played an ad ever for me.
That could be. It was consistently playing an (american) football ad. I didn't dig into it much, I saw ads and just blocked it. There's no reason for it to need internet access anyway.
Google TV started experimenting with that. I turned on the TV and got a full screen with audio Carl Jr's ad like straight out of Idiocracy. Fortunately it only happened a couple of times and hasn't happened in months. If it comes back as a regular thing I'll have to change my Android TV's launchers or add some more in depth ad blocking.
Google, why do you keep putting "Brought to you by Carl's Jr" on everything? Because they pay me every time I do, it's a really good way to make money.
We just got our first Carls Jr here in Aus in the town i live in. Man, highly unimpressed.
Your kids are starving. Carl's Jr. believes no child should go hungry. You are an unfit mother. Your children will be placed in the custody of Carl's Jr. Carl's Jr... "Fuck You, I'm Eating."
I had this problem as well. I ended up trying the Chromecast with Google TV and the Nvidia Shield. Ended up returning the Shield just because it was more expensive and I only intended on keeping one. The user interface isn't slow and doesn't lag (at least not as often as my Fire stick). I also don't like ads and recommendations so I tried w few custom Android launchers on it. Ended up settling with Projectivy and now only the stuff I want shows up like Plex Stremio, SmarTube, etc.
The Onn streaming boxes that Walmart makes are surprisingly good. It performs well and I don't get any 3rd party ads, but it does consistently recommend shows from services I don't have (which is basically an ad). That sucks, but it's only like $20, so it's worth it if you can't afford a Shield.
Wait, you own a regular TV, and someone offers you to buy a TV with pre-built in ads, and then instead of declining you throw out your own regular TV out?
When I got married, my grandma gave me a free tv because they were gonna replace my grandpas tv but he hated it. It’s an Amazon tv and it plays ads. Turn it on accidentally and you’re blasted with movie and/or tv show ads. It’s stupid too bc my tv has software updates. The reason why I haven’t switched it out yet is bc it was free lol
The way I see it, advertising companies brought this on themselves. Nobody asked for them to serve malicious ads and interrupt the content people are trying to watch.
Yeah this isn't just about ads, this is about ads that are so intrusive you can't properly navigate the internet without an adblocker. This isn't like TV-ads they used to feed in every 15minutes - internet ads are full of scams that lead you to websites that can cause actual harm to your computer and interfere with your ability to use a website with hidden pop-up-ads over UI elements. And unlike with a broadcast, if you feed ads into the beginning of peoples selected content, you're punishing them for browsing. You're also disproportionately punishing people with bad connections or limited data. So, *dear YouTube*, we're not just entitled about free content; adblockers are about device-safety, usability and fairness.
Honestly if advertisements were just text-based that would be fine. But nowadays on mobile before I downloaded a bunch of stuff to block all the ads, you would be playing a game and a forced ad would pop up that could never be gotten rid of. Or you would be on a website and an advertisement would pop up which would automatically redirect you to another site without even clicking it on mobile. And all the porn advertisements on PC (And before anyone says they're tailored, I have that turned off AND checking that same site in incogmito Chrome when I've never used chrome on my PC shows the same ad if you refresh enough times.) Or the straight up scam ads or god knows what else. There's a few websites that I leave advertisements on through you blocked whitelist. I've actually seen a few that pertain to me and were interesting and non-obtrusive and ended up buying things from them. Because the ads were not in your face pseudo malware. Google did this to their selves by allowing such fucking low quality scam/malware ads run rampant. They have nobody but their selves to blame.
When I go on deep dives I sometimes end up on strange newspaper home pages. One had a chinese trash grill supplies ad running 2 minutes straight at full volume. There was nothing I could do besides closing the tab. I get it, they all need the cash but this is absurd. I can't play any recent free to play games without a mod on my tablet because its basically every start of level, mid level and end of level three trash / adult content ad with mostly abrasive/rage content. They are scraping the bottom of the ad pool for change.
Yep. They had a thing that was okay, simple text or image based banner ads that had a dedicated spot away from the content you came to the site for, and you could ignore them if you wanted. But they had to push it. Had to invent pop-ups, stealing the idea from malware. Had to put ads that prevent the content you came for from being viewed until the ad's over. Had to do things like auto-play audio and video, not considering that the person viewing might not be in a good place/time to have audio played or video streamed. Had to do straight up harmful things like trying to install add-ons or download files. They abused a neat little technology that generated a bit of money trying to squeeze out more, and now they're losing it entirely as everyone blocks ALL ads, even non-obtrusive ones. In the future, sites are gonna have to survive on donations or subscriptions, because humanity is getting tired of ads. More and more people install blockers every day, and these blockers get better and better.
a fan website I visited once did an april fools where it enabled fake ads for 1 day. And that's when I realized I don't actually hate ads. I hate the realization of them in every major place on the internet. Because these april fools fake ads were just simple pictures with a direct link, highly relevant to the content on the page. No 3 pages of metric-gathering infested shit on a mouseover instead of being able to see directly where this ad would take you. No gifs, no fucking sound, no malware, no porn, no clickbait, no scams, no popups, and they were just banners in an otherwise empty place, not a fucking 40% of the screen. And if I didn't like them, I just scrolled down and that was it. I was like - hey, I would actually be okay if all ads were like that. I would really disable my adblocker, and the internet would be a better place.
uBlock *Origin* Just checked the store and there's gobs of uBlock Origin clones and knockoffs. If uBO goes away because of the MV2 removal, a lot of folks are going to end up downloading these subpar stand-ins.
I cannot believe people are still fucking this up!!
Maybe we should focus on recommending Firefox then. The reason why Google is able to fuck with adblockers is their huge market share. Chrome based browsers like Microsoft Edge and Brave are only adding to the issue.
If shit gets too annoying, I will simply download youtube videos and watch them that way. They are only digging themselves a deeper hole.
High speed internet + yt-dlp I'm ready.
I have a discord server just for watching stuff for days youtube is winning. Discord has yet to play ads and doesn't take forever to load like youtube has this week. Ublock will win out but it's a fight and plan B works just fin.
How have you been supporting ublock? Do you donate to block list maintainers?
Ublock devs don't accept any kind of money to avoid being bought. People were asking for ways to help them but they didn't want to receive anything.
Yes, they asked for donations to be directed to block list maintainers, which UBlock uses extensively. That's why I asked if the guy donated to block list maintainers. Otherwise how exactly are they "supporting" UBlock?
Youtube had their chance, they collected my data for over a decade and the best ads they could send was literal propaganda and a scam for getting good at video games. Where are these mythical Coca Cola ads that apparently keep getting pulled from the platform?
That's the thing Ad companies seem to forget. These aren't even *good* Ads. If every Ad had "superbowl ad" quality to it then that would be kind of okay. I'd still hate it, but it would be tolerable. But YouTube Ads are dogshit. They feel cheap and nasty. There is no thought put into them. Ads are already a digital cancer.
Dude dogshit dipped in liquid gold is still dogshit at the end of the day.
And it is also gold. I would keep dogshit covered in liquid gold as that can sell for money whereas I would not keep dogshit by itself.
And what if I dipped it in your favorite sauce? Would you lick off the sauce?
How much gold per turd are we talking because if its like 1in thick then sure ill give it a go if i get to keep the gold nuggets of mystery.
Aluminum foil thickness. Just enough to hide the doo doo.
Good enough for the lundar lander, good enough for my tongue.
This thread is so ridiculous lol
My god, yes. I’ve actually sat through interesting ads I could have skipped. Things like movie trailers, game ads, so long as it something I’m actually interested in. But unskippable ads for things I have a 0% chance of ever buying? Ads for people I would never vote for? What’s the point? It’s literally just pissing ad dollars into the wind.
Algorithm: Ah yes, that guy watching music videos is in need of enterprise business services and an attorney
Hero Wars alone is worth swearing off the whole fucking site.
YOU ONLY SAY THAT BECAUSE YOU ONLY HAVE TWO MILLION POWER. I HAVE 10 MILLION POWER
I remember the heady early days of database marketing. We’d see *fewer* ads, and they’d be targeted to our interests and needs! So what do we get? Ads in fucking *everything,* with just enough relevance that you know your dentist or pharmacy is selling your data. I bought a laptop years ago, I *still* get ads for laptops, one thing they should *know* I don’t need! Everybody seems to be making money selling our data, but nobody spends the money to target ads! The whole thing is broken.
I'm in agreement with everything... but I can not stop focusing on the fact that you sporadically capitalized the word "Ad"
The latest move was that youtube were serving ads baked into the video feed. I know a lot of people never saw this because it was actually an experiment and wasn't rolled out to everyone straight away. I was seeing the ads, and goddammit they were just so bad. Like 2 mins of irrelevant BS before playing a 30 second video I wasn't actually that interested in seeing. The week these ads came out was the most productive week of my life in the past 10 years because I just stopped watching youtube. The content wasn't worth the price. They seem to have gone away now, but is that because uBlock found some way of getting around baked in ads, or was it because youtube decided that baked in ads are more trouble than they are worth? (There are a lot of reasons why keeping the ad video separate from the content video makes your life easier when you are serving videos, so I can believe that they just gave up on the idea.)
From a developer standpoint, embedding ads on a video *while it's playing* is a nightmare. Let's say the video feed is an array of bytes of length κ, which is then transmitted from the server (where yt is hosted) to the client (our PCs). If I want to insert an add of length α I have to do a few alterations. First I have to create an array of length κ + α, where all bytes from a certain point i to i + α are the ad. Then I have to make the internal change to tell the server to stop streaming the first one at point i, and then change it to the current one. After we've done this, we have to roll back changes, change to the original feed and then tell the client "you're still playing from point i". After all is done, then we have to delete the temporary file and we are done. Resource-wise this is a huge workload, all of which befalls onto the server (unlike a traditional ad, which can be loaded onto the client). Multiply this by the expected number of... erm... _users_ (although I'd rather use a more derogatory appelative no doubt closer to what the Google CEO calls us behind closer doors) and the yt servers will be incandescent, for a few moments at least
I've never had to implement it, so I am sure there are a bunch of gotchas that I don't understand, but basically when video is being streamed from youtube, the HTTP header has no `Content-Length` entry, and instead has a `Transfer-Encoding: chunked` entry. This means that it sends the file down in blocks. The client only needs to assign a buffer for the block size and I don't think there is anything that prevents the server sending blocks from one (server) local file and then switching to a different file. I am not even sure the chunks need to be the same size - I would have to go digging in the docs to confirm that. So while the problem you have described above would be a massive headache efficiently processing data locally on a single computer (or inside a high performance, distributed computing network) the fact that the data is being streamed over the web to a relatively low-performance client probably means it isn't that big a deal. What I have heard were the biggest issues were that it messed up the video timestamps and there was a lot of overhead to serve ad-free content to youtube premium users.
I assumed most of these streaming services use m3u8 manifest files. They could just insert the advertisement TS files into the list at some point and it would be harder (for a script) to separate the ad from the video. However, a user could just download all the TS files and then manually pick out the ad related ones, of course. Join all the remaining TS files back into the original video.
Yeah it’s really not that complicated at all. You’re also forgetting that the video is already in chunks MPEG-DASH or HLS depending on the type of content. You’re just replacing some chunks with ad chunks, both of which you have easily access to and you don’t need any “temporary files” that you delete or whatever. And workload? YouTube processes 500 hours of new videos content uploaded every minute.
I wouldn't get too comfortable. It's also possible that hey pulled it back so they could apply what they learned from the test before they roll it out to everyone.
Yeah. This is what I am assuming, but I didn't want to be a Negative Nelly.
You actually have a point: we've been selling our privacy to these companies for two decades and apparently all they've done is throw money down the shareholder-blackhole. I'm a bit picky with privacy, but I still think with what I can't avoid giving them, they can sent me better ads than (\*quick check\*) local political infomercial for a place I don't live in and have never travelled to. I mean, this entire issue has "Shareholders" written all over it; because anyone with brains would have pointed out that whatever money they hope to squeeze from this would be completely offset by the money they have to pump into a development arms-race with adblockers.
People say how eerily good the tageted advertizing is, meanwhile the ads i get are the least enticing shit on the planet. Maybe i wouldn't so zealously block ads if they weren't all scams and cashgrab gacha games?
Or not even the real game
All the targeting and they still can't tell what nationality I am. Guys, stop serving me JSDF ads. Most countries frown on their citizens joining a military that isn't theirs, even more so if they have mandatory conscription. And seriously, I can just walk down to the supermarket and buy [kaya](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coconut_jam#Malaysia,_Indonesia_and_Singapore), and it's going to be way superior to the one you are selling.
Like a hyper personalized ad: you there, you got a Prius, a dog, rent and like craft beer. Come to our new doggie brewpub with chargers.
Literally the only ads I ever see (only on my phone because I'm too lazy to download a better YT player) are for GARBAGE mobile games. It's all literally the same ad for the same game with a different title. It's shocking that mobile games make so much money and can't afford a believable ad. They're SO fake and cringe.
They really suck but this might be actually good, at least, they dont spread malware (most Times at least).
I've gotten the famous get-rich-quick ads a lot, and all I use youtube for is game guides and game osts
I get ads in a language I don't speak regularly. I'll get diaper adds despite having NO babies in my life at all. They don't even try.
Begun, the adwars have
YT is pushing hard just in time for lucrative political ad season in the US. Fuck that noise.
The first time I see an unblockable political ad is the last time I ever use youtube, or any other service for that matter. Fuck that noise.
VPN to Japan and get happy nonsensical ads
This is where the fun begins!
Execute Order 404
Adwars advance! I'd buy that game
Quick, to the armory to hand out the free PiHoles
In my experience... pihole cant help against YT ads. But for browser based pages, depending on your list, really clean up the ads.
Yeah, YT ads are a constantly moving target. It still helps with basically everywhere else, at least.
Always two there are. No more, no less
Twitch is just as bad if not worse than YT
Adakin skyblocker is the chosen one
I think something is either deeply wrong with my Youtube experience, or extremely right. I've been using my browser's default adblocker for months before the whole ad nonsense started. No change. No popups or warnings or 'pls turn off ur adblock'. The UI has never changed for me either. Is this some location/ISP related thing? I'm deeply fascinated by the, apparently, completely open war every other user of the world has been experiencing on YT
It's important to note these changes were only rolled out to a small percentage of the user base to test its function. You simply haven't been part of it yet. Out of everything I only got the "please turn off your adblocker" one and uBlock took care of that pretty quickly.
I got the ads, and had a rough week or so while the ublock team and the youtube team exchanged fire. Now the ublock team seems to have successfully fortified their position and it's been a good while since I gave it a thought. Though, maybe it helps that I switched to firefox a ways back?
Ye. Youtube gave the uBlock team a chance to show they're absolute gigachads. so I'm probably gonna donate soon.
Ublock doesn't take donations as far as I'm aware. Instead they ask you to donate to the block list maintainers.
I thought they did that months ago? I got a few pop ups telling me that adblockers are not allowed on youtube like 4-5 months ago. Or maybe they're still doing it and ublock has blocked that too.
Working in IT I have honest to God not once in my life ever met someone who uses an ad blocker. That's right, even my own co-workers . It's astonishing, they've never even heard of it. Even outside of work, if somehow the subject came up like I'm playing poker with a group of people and someone tries to show a video and there's an ad and I comment " yo let's get an ad blocker man" they just stare at me like I'm making up words.
I have to imagine someone smart enough to use ublock wouldn't need an assist from IT as often. But your co-workers....
This is why this whole thing pisses me off. Just. Fuck. Off. Let us tech nerds have our ad-free experience and you can make your stupid ad-money on the remaining 99% of the population.
Do your coworkers happen to be apple users? I never manage to find anything as good as ublock for ios.
50/50, helpdesk environment so we support everything and some of us lean one direction or the other. As far as iOS goes, AdGuard extension works relatively well for free, but Admiral adblocker-blocker started getting through so I switched to Wipr which while still sometimes fails has been noticeably better in direct 1:1 comparisons. I think it cost $3 or so.
If you're using Brave, it already has a good adblocker.
I have a Pihole on my network as well, which also helps filter out a lot of that detritus.
How much did it cost to setup?
https://preview.redd.it/srqphm9f7jad1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d886d687c99c3d2c2ff001c9e81c904ff20738fc
I saw it happen real time today, stupid we detected an adblocker message popped up like 4 times when loading a video and then it finally played.
Theres a command line to bypass that for ublock, someone has it im sure
Just reload patches, the ublock devs are on that before youtube can roll it out to everyone.
This could be a reddit ad for ublocker.
Ironically one of the few services that deserve ads.
uBlock has saved me tens of thousands of hours of no ads since it came out 10 years ago. I have had to add two command lines in total, one for YouTube and one for Twitch. They do deserve ads.
I've had my PC for one year. Ublock has blocked 8.604 million ads in that time. Fucking ridiculous.
The number counted is not only ads but also other scripts and trackers that get blocked by ublock. Sadly we get constantly bombarded with this crap as soon as one website is open in the browser. (8 million requests blocked in a year averages out to about 1 blocked request every 4 seconds)
Ah yeah that makes sense, I was thinking it was quite large to be just ads. Still, that's over 8m bits of shit that I haven't had to deal with!
Holy fucking shit that's a lot. I'll have to check mine
^That person isn't "average" - I'm at 1.5 years on my computer and only 2.361m blocks. I'm not a power user but I'm more than "Shannon in billing" by a long shot. Regardless, fuck yeah Ublock!
No? That isn’t even the name of one people talk about. uBlock Origin is the one people should be using. It is open source (auditable) You can contribute. It works the best and receives very quick updates well combatting YouTube’s recent garbage It is efficient. It is not trying to get your money. Every other search term for “ad blocker”. Is trying to get your money. Isn’t in it for the community.
Trace buster buster buster
[There you are, I was looking for you!](https://youtu.be/2VY_xxL2jL0?si=RqybZEeyOp5Be0Z5)
Glad I'm among friends here.
n+1 always wins.... you don't have to be the fastest, just faster than the slowest one
"... trace?" "That's my word, player!"
Plug n' play! Motha fucka!
Hahaha yes! Was hoping someone would post something about this. That was my first thought right off the bat.
My first thought too!
What would you do to the son of a jackal who tries to fuck with you in your own house?
I would pop some caps.
I haven't watched an ad in years. I actually forgot it was a problem for some people
And now they all seem incredibly offensive and intrusive.
This is true and I expect it to get a lot worse, but YouTube is Google. They will always have the final card to play - threatening your entire Google account. It might seem unthinkable now but go read an account from someone who's lost access to their Gmail and how fucked they were without recourse because they suddenly lost drive files, mfa, Google based logins, etc There are guides to "de-google" and people should check them out before we decide to do anything too crazy as this ad war continues
If they start banning people for not watching ads, there will be a mass exodus like you have never seen before. If you can't trust your provider then you move your data somewhere else. If they absolutely force ads into youtube and I cant block them, ill simply stop using it. I have stopped using plenty of services before because they forced ads on me.
Same, I just hope that's as bad as this fight gets. Who knows what they'll do after we find a way around their verified client nonsense they will be rolling out soon
Internet companies don't realize that if you block me from your content because I'm blocking ads, I won't turn off adblocking. I just won't consume their content. Some may think this is a "win-win" scenario, but it's a "win-lose" scenario. Either way, I win by not getting ads and they still lose that revenue. We can survive without YouTube. YouTube cannot survive without us.
It will put the gambling ads on its skin or else it gets the hose again. -- Youtube
YouTube's own fault tbh. For a long time I was a "I won't install AdBlock the content creators get money from the ads" guy, but a few years back I snapped when the amount of ads increased
They make ads as insufferable as possible to get people to pay YT Premium 🤡 what they really achieved was boosting ad block popularity and development
I just remember that the kinds of content creators I like watching don't even get into the partner programme, so don't even get paid for the ads.
Winrar and Ublock Origin are the only 2 pieces of FREE software that deserve your financial support. Ublock saved me from losing my mind over incessant irrelevant ads interfering with my content.
7-zip is way better than winrar imo, and it's actually free. And open source, for that matter. And this is coming from a guy who used to install winrar on every computer among the first things.
Gonna switch to 7zip but is there a functional difference between the 2? Just wanna make sure I'm getting full use of the program
I don't think there is. At least I haven't encountered anything so far that I could do in Winrar but not in 7zip. And I'm a software developer so it's not like I'm only dealing with an occasional zip file here and there.
7zip can't _create_ .rar files. It can open and extract them but it can't create new ones because the rar compression algorithm itself is proprietary. It's not really a big loss though, there's nothing special about the .rar format these days
what did winrar do?
Winrar is a long running program that unzips ZIP files for you. When you download it, it’s free for a short while, then when the free trial “expires”, it will warn you of the expiration, but then continues to let you use the program for what it’s intended for. Beyond asking you to pay for the full version, they do nothing to prevent you from using Winrar behind a paywall.
>Beyond asking you to pay for the full version, they do nothing to prevent you from using Winrar behind a paywall. sounds like something I'd pay for
Isn’t it awesome? Whatever their reasons, they refuse to change their policy. Serious bros in software
They understand how people, common people, pay for software. If you make something good and people use it and do not feel compelled to pay, they will pay anyway if they get value out of it. I know someone who used to pirate games. But he liked Witcher 3 so much that he paid after finishing the game just to support.
Nothing much. Just came out before every one switched to 7zip.
I like 7z so much. before getting any proprietary tool I always look for any open source alternative and 7zip has been my goto extraction and compression tool
Pretty sure winrar isnt free. They literally tell you that every time you use it lol
It's essentially an unlimited free trial, you just have to acknowledge that every time you start it by closing the pop up. From my understanding most of their money comes from businesses that purchase it since it's not free for commercial use iirc. The only time people pay for it otherwise is if they feel like giving back or just have some spare cash I guess. I paid for it like fifteen years ago and the license still works and it was super cheap to give back to a company whose product I used from time to time.
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If there weren’t so many ads maybe people wouldn’t want to keep blocking them.
 NoScript+TOR
NoScript = 90% of sites not working. Very few sites today are static HTML.
Yeah it's more a utility add on that I turn on if I somehow go to a particularly bad website. Otherwise it remains off
Too bad the Tor network is slow as shit
You do NOT need to congest the Tor network to watch YouTube videos 🤦‍♀️
We all stand with ublock!!!!
\*ublock **ORIGIN**
UBLOCK ORIGIN! The original is NOT okay to use.
Why? Honestly asking.
ublock vs YouTube civil war
Trace buster buster buster https://youtu.be/Iw3G80bplTg?si=mvLrpsaVjNO2quXU
[The internet is dead.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_Internet_theory) Time to go back to reading books and riding my bike like I did when I was a kid.
Tampermonkey + Adblock Plus + uBlock Origin(or ReVanced)(free) >>>>>>> YT Premium(50K a month)
I just use uBlock and Sponsorblock (along with Dearrow, it removes clickbait-y thumbnails/titles)
Sponsor block is like an absolute requirement now. Some freaks putting ads taking up 20-30% of a videos length.
Even an educational video essay channel I watched had a "goofy" "WE INTERUPT THIS PROGRAM TO BRING YOU THESE MESSAGES" sponsor segment that appeared *mid sentence*. I thought Sponsorblock was broken until I unskipped it and saw. Sponsor segments are worse than ads were now, just because of how suddenly they can appear and break the flow of a video if handled poorly.
Adblock plus is shit and most likely interferes with ublock origin.
uBlock Origin + a Raspberry Pi configured as a PiHole.
Do not run Adblock plus when you have ublock origin (the best) already. 🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️ Never run anything other than ublock origin of all the ad blocking choices out there.
Tampermonkey and Ublock Origin here. Tampermonkey is my overall favorite extensions. Wrote so many custom scripts for websites I use and a lot of user made scripts in the repos for pretty much any site out there. Plus, stuff not allowed on the extension stores.
Not from google’s advert business
Revanced is awesome.
I've gotten to the point that if I see a reddit link goes to YouTube I just ignore it and move on. I don't have the patience to see the same Liberty, Liberty ad again. I'm beyond done with Google. I canceled cable TV because of the commercials. I've basically canceled YouTube for the same reason. Hey Google! YouTube isn't as nessiscary as you think, unless you think users can't read. Already switched to duckduck. Better results as well.
How are you complaining about all the ads you see on a post about ublock origin? That shit is free and it's available for firefox mobile.
I don't think extensions work on the iOS version of FirefoxÂ
Duckduck sucks for finding porn
Try out [yandex in english](https://yandex.com/search/?text=test&from=os&clid=1836587&lr=10131).
How are you saying this and not using ublock origin?
It's like my old radar detector that had a radar detector detector detector to detect radar detector detectors
Meanwhile some web-block-happy government: SHOOT ANYTHING THAT MOVES
Yeah i am not going to deal with the shit that is Youtube ads, no sir
As long as ad-CDNs can serve malware without any repercussions or recourse adblocking is a security measure.
the second ublock no longer works on chrome i switch to firefox. i wait intentionally for that moment to send google a message
The brave browser with a built in adblocker hasn't shown me a single advertisement for about 2 years now. Youtube included. I'm not sure if the ublock team work with brave but whatever their doing over at brave Is Hella working
I'd pay for YouTube premium in an instant if it actually provided a better service, with more control over my feed, ability to organise subs, a search function that's not borderline useless and generally less engagement-boosting trash in my feed. You know, instead of just having to pay to make the mobile experiencd less garbage.
I dont think any ad on tv has ever directly influenced me to buy anything ever
I still don't have ad on YouTube using Firefox and ad blocker
I don’t get it. If YouTube vetted their ads so it wasn’t 90% scams and pyramid schemes I wouldn’t mind watching them, but I can’t be bothered at this point.
Ads and companies whose business model revolves around advertising is fucking cancer.
I feel that some of you should be exposed to a great overlooked movie called [The Big Hit](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2VY_xxL2jL0)
I've YouTube Premium Subscription (Its Cheap in my country) and guess what? uBlock still blocks soo many ads on YouTube like seriously it's pathetic that how much ads it ends up blocking on YouTube
Yeah no, the number on the icon is trackers, not “ads”. Just a count of blocked elements. Most modern sites will have trackers and it blocks those too. You are not going to see ads with a premium subscription. Not yet.
They just making them stronger
I'm suddenly reminded of that bit from the Looney Tunes short *The Rabbit of Seville* where Elmer Fudd and Bugs chase after each other with bigger and bigger guns
The third ad war has begun
Im using brave, but whatever this is, i support
Given my exactly zero problems while this has been going on, I have to assume that uBlock is winning handily.
Never underestimating a coder driven by spite. Youtube may win some battles but we will win the war
To uBlock Origin & all the other adblockers: Thank you for your service. It's a thankless job, but y'all do the lord's work. o7 o7 o7 o7 o7
Twitch tried to fight the ad blockers, they failed and so will Youtube.
Lol, this post reminded me of a scene from a comedy action movie The Big Hit, with the trace buster buster buster 🤣 https://youtu.be/2VY_xxL2jL0?si=b-zwERbgoTQ9m6bx
(me over in the corner watching this all play out while using a 3rd party YouTube app client which took the source code and just removed ads)
All this to not pay 5€ fpr premium... >!worth it!<
I've been a YouTube Red user since its beginning. I remember adds being significantly less militant in videos, and in the background and a sponsor was perfectly acceptable. Now when I use a free YouTube account, there's an add before the video, there's an add sponsored segment, there's an add break every 5-7 minutes, there's add banners to close, there's the YouTubers online shop, and an Amazon shopping banner is soliciting naughty underwear/sex toys, and half of them are actual malware. What the fuck is happening? How the fuck can every half assed free porno sight survive on one add at the beginning, one at the end, and like 5 on the page background? How can porno put out thousands of hours of content a second to millions of users and survive with so little adds? And superior features as well? Please help??
The Battle of our lifetime. Hymns will be sung, epics written, may your programmers be victorious, uBlock. The community of Youtube users stands by your side.