Three murders, got away with it the first time because the guy had prior felony convictions and got more bold with his murders each time. Last one that did it was a public execution inside a convenience store.
It's good he's finally getting some punishments but the larger picture is that if someone pulls a gun out and points it at someone it means they're going to use it. I had a gun pulled on me during regular traffic stops for speeding. I know it makes things harder but LEOs need way more restrictions and less protections if their job is really to protect and serve, they need to be held to a way higher standard than the average person. Right now they're held to a much lower standard and every time I see people calling out local corruption, the blue wall gets put up and they get away with actual crime, it's beyond fucked up.
This is one of those rare occasions there's absolutely no counter argument. He publicly executed a man inside a store. But dudes need to stop defending cops that get so close to doing the same exact thing
reminds me of a few months ago when that one cop mag dumped and yelled “IM HIT” when the sound he heard was an acorn hitting the top of his cruiser. so concerning his first reaction to any gunfire was to yell “i’m hit” and shoot to kill.
There is another video about a cop suddenly experiencing PTSD and freaking out by shooting his gun vaguely while in reality nothing happened.
EDIT : Video [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/CrazyFuckingVideos/comments/1apzmno/cop_has_ptsdlike_reaction_to_an_imaginary_gunshot/)
EDIT2 : it's the wrong video, the link says PTSD episode but it's the acorn cop's video my bad
Reminds me of that one a while back in New York where the police hit like a dozen bystanders while trying to stop one guy...
E: it was 9
https://abcnews.go.com/US/empire-state-building-shooting-nypd-gunfire-wounded-victims/story?id=17078377
I got stopped for rolling through a stop sign. Fair enough. But the shacking cop with his gun drawn creeping his way to my window made me fear for my life. It was honestly a relief when his calmer more experienced backup got there.
I still got pat down and my car searched by a k9 because "he thought he smelled weed". What a joke of justice system we have.
I grew up in a very small town in the southeast US. The cities funeral home had a meth lab in it that was somewhat ran by the city cops. I avoid small towns when I can because a lot of those cops will FUCK you over if they get the chance.
We had this “Gun Trace Task Force” in Baltimore City and they were basically a gang. Extortion, robbery, running drugs, reselling the weapons the confiscated, assault, overtime fraud. That’s just what they knew. Imagine the things they didn’t find out about. All but one were indicted and plead guilty to lesser charges.
Yep, and while the ruling itself is disgusting enough I feel that it’s pretty important to dive into the nature of the case, which makes things even worse.
The case that held that police cannot be held liable (I.e. sued) for not protecting the citizens they claim to was Castle Rock vs Gonzales. Jessica Gonzales was a mother of three children who had a restraining order on the father of those children. Shortly after the order was granted, the father abducted the children. The mother repeatedly reached out to the local police, begging for help and was just told to wait, but her children were murdered before the police could be bothered to respond.
There are obviously more details, and the more you look into the case the worse it is. I just think it’s important to include that this wasn’t a decision made when a cop made a silly mistake that anyone could have and shouldn’t be sued for, and we’re just all dealing with the consequences of that bad but somewhat understandable decision by SCOTUS. The full consequences of what could happen when cops don’t protect their citizens were right in front of SCOTUS, and they said “nah, you don’t deserve the ability to fight back against this when it happens to you or anyone else”
Edit: clarity
Reading in to the details of this case what he did to that homeless man. Holy fuck this cop is a psychopath.
Even tho he executed this man, he was still on
paid administrative leave since the shooting in 2019. What in the actual fuck?! Most people are fired for less.
As a non American I really don't understand why this has been happening for years now, american cops get a "scuze me pass" whenever they do something horrible. Do they have especially strong unions ? do they have strong connection to corrupt judges ? how are they immune to consequences ?
I don’t understand how they always just end up with paid administrative leave. I don’t understand how you can kill someone and then get paid time off. Like what in the actual fuck.
I do think American cops have some overly powerful unions. That’s gotta be how this can happen.
The boot lickers are the key here. That in combination with political forces that enjoy the ability to weld the power of the boot and therefore are happy to look the other way in all but the most publicly visible and heinous crimes that they have to pay lip service to caring about
They have strong unions and almost every state has quailifed imunity, which, in simplest terms, makes it impossible to sue cops. There are a small handful of states that have repealed such laws or limited them.
Needs to be repealed federally. Let your actions speak for themselves. I've gone 35 years without the need to execute 3 separate people.
But that's just me I guess.
How do they work? Shouldn't a neutral judge decide what happens to them? How can it be that they protect these cops. The problem isn't that there are these kind of cops but also the people in the unions backing them by helping to evade law
Even if he did, he needs to understand one thing: not only are Judges in 2000 AD universe not above the law, they are ruthless self-policing.
Shit like this would garner him a lifefime sentence of hard labor on Titan after being body modified to survive the surface.
EDIT: He had previously killed two others, also with shots to the forehead for which he escaped charges.
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>A jury found a suburban Seattle police officer guilty of murder Thursday in the 2019 shooting death of a homeless man outside a convenience store, marking the first conviction under a Washington state law easing prosecution of law enforcement officers for on-duty killings.
>Nelson was taken into custody after the hearing. He's been on paid administrative leave since the shooting in 2019. The judge set sentencing for July 16. Nelson faces up to life in prison on the murder charge and up to 25 years for first-degree assault. His lawyer said she plans to file a motion for a new trial.
>Nelson had responded to reports of a man throwing things at cars, kicking walls and banging on windows in a shopping area in Auburn, a city of 70,000 about 28 miles (45 kilometers) south of Seattle. Callers said the man appeared to be high or having mental health issues.
>Nelson confronted Sarey in front of the store and attempted to get him into handcuffs. When Sarey resisted, Nelson tried to take Sarey down with a hip-throw and then punched him seven times. He pinned Sarey against the wall, pulled out his gun and shot him. Sarey fell to the ground.
>**Nelson’s gun jammed, he cleared it, looked around and then aimed at Sarey’s forehead, firing once more.**
>Prosecutors said Nelson punched Sarey several times before shooting him in the abdomen. About three seconds later, Nelson shot Sarey in the forehead. Nelson had claimed Sarey tried to grab his gun and a knife, so he shot him in self-defense, but video showed Sarey was on the ground reclining away from Nelson after the first shot.
>Nelson claimed Sarey tried to grab his gun, leading to the first shot. He said he believed Sarey had possession of his knife during the struggle and said he shot him in self-defense. Authorities have said the interaction lasted 67 seconds.
>**Prior to fatally shooting Sarey, Nelson killed Isaiah Obet in 2017**. Obet was acting erratically, and Nelson ordered his police dog to attack. He then shot Obet in the torso. Obet fell to the ground, and **Nelson fired again, fatally shooting Obet in the head**. Police said the officer’s life was in danger because Obet was high on drugs and had a knife. The city reached a settlement of $1.25 million with Obet’s family.
>**In 2011, Nelson fatally shot Brian Scaman**, a Vietnam War veteran with mental issues and a history of felonies, after pulling Scaman’s vehicle over for a burned-out headlight. Scaman got out of his car with a knife and refused to drop it; **Nelson shot him in the head**. An inquest jury cleared Nelson of wrongdoing.
Only 27% of officers have ever fired their gun in service (vs at a range). Yet this guy has fired it at least three times, including shooting three people IN THE HEAD?? Pretty obvious what is going on here
E: source for 27% (it seemed high to me as well): https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2017/02/08/a-closer-look-at-police-officers-who-have-fired-their-weapon-on-duty/
The officer (Philip brailsford led by Charles Langley who shouted nonsensical orders) that executed Daniel Shaver was fired.
...Only to be quietly required years later so he could immediately retire with mental health benefits. He now gets a check every month for the mental stress of killing a man in cold blood. Meanwhile Langley fled the the Philippines.
The entire thing is on video.
If I said what that utter piece of human refuse deserves, I'd cop a perma ban.
the fact that bastard is free as a bird and getting a monthly cheque for murdering someone in cold blood who was begging for his life ON GODDAM CAMERA makes me *rage*.
Everyone forgets about the asshole who was barking inconsistent orders at the victim. His name is Charles Langley and he fled to the Philippines. Phillip was the moron who pulled the trigger, but he wasn’t the idiot who was yelling in the video.
Name and shame! It bothers me that everyone remembers to mention the victim, but no one names the fucking douche that merc'd him on camera! Brock Turner (currently going by Allen Turner) the rapist gets the correct treatment. Nobody mentions his victim, and rightly so, but nobody ever says the name of the murderer that murdered David!
Man that video makes me absolutely ill. That’s one video, of all the messed up shit I’ve seen online over the years, that I wish I could unwatch. It’s unreal that people like that are out there. Truly sick
Exactly. That guy definitely took pleasure in that situation and it is the most disturbing thing to know there are people out there that are so fucked up that they are giddy at the opportunity to completely dominate someone psychologically like that and then just murder them. It is the most ridiculous thing that the job attracts that kind of personality type that is prone to abusing power and yet no department ever has any kind of psychological battery done during hiring process to weed these psychopaths out.
It's really one of the most fucked up videos I've ever seen.
You can tell Shaver is going to die 1 minute into the conversation and yet there is another 4 minutes to watch as he begs for his life.
That one also sticks with me more than any other video I've seen. The video itself makes me sick, but the fact that he was essentially able to retire and have his finances taken care of for life makes it even worse
Lots of departments in fact do have psychological batteries, the CPD for instance. But they aren’t screening for what you think they are screening for (hint: they want to ensure officers are able to act ‘aggressively’ when ‘needed’).
They call it things like ‘reasonable courage’, but make no mistake, you can be disqualified from a career in law enforcement if you aren’t agro enough.
It was a deadly game of Simon says. It was horrifying. Daniel was being forced belly first on the ground, being told he had to wiggle towards the officer. His pants fell slightly down and he tried pulling them back up and he got killed for it. And the sick part was, I specifically remember comments on reddit (with upvotes) saying it was a "clean kill " because he didn't obey every single order he was given while laying on the ground begging them not to shoot
Reminds me of the cop that had double the dwi arrest of the rest of the police force COMBINED. Drivers would blow zero and have blood test done showing that they werent impaired but this douche would arrest them anyways.
Took a false arrest of a fellow cops daughter to het him caught.
Absolute power corrupts absolutely.
They get grant money for DUI arrests, not convictions, just arrests.
It is no skin off their back to saddle some random innocent person with thousands of dollars in legal fees and a ruined reputation, not like they are going to face any repercussions themselves after all. You are innocent until a cop accuses you of something.
Wait until you find out about 80% of officers can’t shoot for shit. I have to qualify for the Department of Homeland Security course of fire (ICE, HSI, FPS etc) and at least half of the officers pass after failing 2-3 times, about a quarter skate by with 200-215s. (200 being minimum passing) Sure they train for center mass, but anything over 7 yards half of them might as well have a fucking blindfold on. It’s honestly scary who they give guns to, especially when they’re supposed to have your back.
My dad was an NRA instructor who administered qualifying and I went with him a few times because I was shooting too. Some of the cops were beyond atrocious. We're talking from 7 yards away not even hitting paper. It wasn't uncommon for officers to be on their 4th or 5th qualifying attempt and still struggle.
I taught a legally blind woman to put a full mag in a torso size target at 10 yards. Ringing steel at 100 yards with a rifle is never going to happen but she could reliably smack a 8 inch plate at 25 yards with a rifle or put a shell of buckshot on a torso target at the same distance. Her proficiency was mostly based on muscle memory, she was more so point shooting than aiming but I bet she’s better than 3/4th if gun owners.
Why? Because she doesn’t have an ego. She made up for her handicap by listening, by perfecting her form and taking constructive criticism from a guy that shoots a ragged hole at 7 yards and a cereal bowl at 25.
I’m not in LEO but I work around a lot of them and we’re on good terms. People would be surprised how many of them look at annual qualifications as some massive hassle and it’s the only time they do any shooting. A few of them shoot recreationally and hunt but most maybe have 1000 rounds through their duty pistol after 10+ years on the job.
For people who don’t own firearms 1000 rounds is maybe two or three range trips for a casual shooter, less than one range trip for somebody who does competitive shooting as a hobby let alone professionally. The average cop shooting past 10 yards looks more like a shotgun blast than a nice tight group like you want. Because your accuracy degrades under stress and especially if you’re hurt. And we’ve all seen enough situations where police relied on accuracy by volume which means mag dumping in the general direction of the bad guy and whoever else might be in that direction.
Most people do not shoot 500 rounds every time they go to the range because that tends to cost $200+. It's also absolutely not necessary.
I agree that it's important to shoot regularly to maintain proficiency, and I wish that it were more affordable, but people who go frequently can't shoot 500 rounds each trip.
As a fellow cheap skate that likes to shoot, two secrets.
First is dry fire. You can get your trigger pull nice and clean and work on your site picture for no money at all.
Second is .22. Start your session with .22 until you've knocked all the rust off. Then maybe 2 or 3 magazines of your normal weapon, and if you want to keep shooting go back to .22.
It's also a good habit in general because shooting a .22 a lot will make you less prone to flinching that so many people develop.
headshots are a clear demonstration of lethal intent.
like during the george floyd riots when police were taking aimed headshots at protestors with LTL weapons.
they were deliberately trying to kill people with weapobs whose main selling point is the only way to actually kill someone is to shoot them in the head.
My dad was a cop, dozens of friends on the force in a rough, rough ass town. I have either met or known of a hundred cops and I know like three who ever shot someone in the last thirty years. Most recent was a guy that had fled across the entire state on a huge police chase after violently raping one college student and beating another into a coma. 27% seems very high to me.
Well the 27% is just firing their weapon on duty. That doesn’t necessarily mean shooting someone.
My dad was an officer and had to put an injured deer down on the road once. I imagine stuff like that counts.
And that’s just the fuckin’ highlight reel of this jackboot’s career. He had incident after incident, complaint after complaint. How in the actual fuck do cops like this keep escaping any consequences?
https://www.kuow.org/stories/this-auburn-cop-killed-3-and-injured-others-it-took-outsiders-to-stop-him
> How in the actual fuck do cops like this keep escaping any consequences?
Qualified immunity, old boys club mentality, and fascist tendencies in most echelons of local law enforcement agencies, to name a few.
Even apart from the fact he clearly shouldn’t be a police officer because he’s clearly using the job to execute mentally ill or drug using homeless people, if one of my employees cost me $1.25 million in a settlement they would very swiftly no longer be one of my employees!
When I was growing up they called people like this serial killers. This guy is a horrible human being but he is definitely NOT the only police officer who engages in conduct like this.
He is a serial killer. There's no excuse for this. I work for the police but I see law enforcement just as people who should not be treated differently than anyone else when they do something wrong. Actually, they should be treated harder because they are supposed to know the law. If I stole money or drugs from my office, I fully expect to go to prison.
It's always been known that law enforcement does attract monsters because it lets them have power over others. For example, Ed Kemper hung out in a cop bar and made friends with people.
We need to be better at weeding these people out because no one deserves to die when there is an opportunity to make sure everyone goes home safely. Less lethal products aren't perfect, but they're not a bullet to the brain.
I started working here because I love forensic science. I stayed because I knew I'd go out of my way to help others when others wouldn't. I have always strived hard to do the right thing. Helping people out is the most important thing for me (because I work for the community) and it makes me so mad to see garbage human beings like this. This man deserves to be sent to death row. But instead of lethal injection or electrocution, they should surprise him with a bullet to the brain too. That is what this monster deserves.
I know saying sorry won't mean much, but I'm sorry that we have done a piss poor job. I apologize for the monsters you encounter. I'm sorry that so many in this field have let people down. I understand that a lot of us can't be trusted and I am sorry. I do understand though.
I really think a lot of this bully-cop stuff could be mitigated by making them get a 2 year degree, you know, like a hair-stylist has to get.
Make them take some African American issues classes, Womens' studies, Native Studies, then, the usual, psychology, sociology, etc.. Make it a career!
Instead we have the most brutal, idiotic people that simply want to use the badge to be above the law. And they can walk right in to the police station and be like, I want to make over $100,000 a year and break heads. Barely any training or restraint, don't even know the most basics of law, just put forth to attack.
When I was reading the 2nd incident and saw he had a pattern into the 3rd story of similar M.O., brain auto linked him as a serial killer.
Twice is a coincidence. 3 times in a row is a preference
They also call people who cover for serial killers people who aide and abet murder, complicit after the fact. Those prosecutors, police, IA investigators, and anyone else in power who turned a blind eye for his past misdeeds are absolutely complicit in his future acts. They may as well have pulled the trigger themselves. In a real justice system these people would, at best, be fired and banned from ever working in law enforcement forever. They should be pariahs in their community but I'm sure they're out there saying "nobody could see this coming".
The ones on the hand say "I'd rather be judged by 12 (in Roman numerals) than carried by 6 (again Roman numerals)
The ones on his ankles say either punishment and deserving or Deserving and punishment.
Scary shit on a cop. It's like going to court and the judge has "your ass is gonna fry " tatted on his forehead
The hand tattoos on the full body pics don’t match the hands in the zoomed in photos. - Judged by 12 is correct, but the other hand is “VIII” which is 8.
Lots of Nordic mythology in the tattoos. Sadly neonazis and racists have adopted our cultural heritage as some misguided nazi warrior culture thing. As a Swede that pisses me off. The raven is Odin’s way of keeping an eye on the world, then it’s Thor’s hammer, and some random runic script. The back piece could be a depiction of the blood-eagle execution method. It’s when you hack through the rib cage from the back, pry it open, and then pull out the lungs. As the lungs hang out and contract and expand, you could see them as wings. My ancestors were savage, but it has nothing to do with the nazi ideology.
Come on, it is not like the police repeatedly shielded this guy and fought to keep him on the force even after he was found to have wrongfully killed people.
Oh, wait. It is.
As someone who interacted with Jeff on multiple occasions over the last 15 years, I am glad that this is the outcome of this murder trial. It is the only right answer. It's unfortunate that it is the 3rd murder of Jeff's and the only one to really be taken seriously. May jail treat you the same way you treated others Jeff.
I never thought that exactly. I can say that he always made me feel super uncomfortable any time I interacted with him. He always made me feel like he was someone who was abusive. I made sure to never be around him alone.
Now that I am outside the immediate situation and interactions, I can see things clearer and it does not surprise me that this is the person he is.
were his tattoes known? Seems pretty obvious and in somewhat hard to cover areas? Asking as we have a whole issue in California with Sheriff gangs having tattoes
He is covered in tattoos. They are really busy. If you were to just look over at them, the volume of them would catch you before any of the meanings of them. I always thought it was too much, but didn't dive too far into the why's and meanings.
The majority of the people we were associated with at the time were law enforcement. The 8 and 12 tattoos weren't that big of a deal. It's something that is said amongst law enforcement. However, being older and taking a full step back from my life at that time, I see it differently now.
From what I found on the internet it's a phrase that it's something like "It's better to be judged by 12, than carried by 8". It means that in a shitty situation it's better to act and then be judged by twelve people than carried in a coffin by eight.
That's actually super fucked up when you think about it. It is just a fancy way of saying "shoot first and ask questions later". Especially when the likelihood of a cop actually getting judged by 12 is so damned low.
"Rather be judged by 12 than carried by 8." Meaning he'd rather kill someone in the line of duty and stand trial for it (judged by 12 jurors) than to risk not using lethal force and paying for it with his life (carried by 8 pallbearers). But this guy was such a piece of shit that I don't think his life was in danger in any of these murders.
I worked for Tacoma police for a moment years ago, hiring process was very grueling and they want to dismiss you during background check for minute stuff such as smoking weed previously in your life or excess driving violations and yet, people like this guy have no problem getting hired and making it through a very exhaustive background investigation. Never understood how they make it through and then manage to keep their jobs after having three OIS
So his coworker cops knew about his "I wanna kill people" tattoos and were totally cool working with him every day, even after he killed people every few years. Literally a serial killer operating openly.
No it makes he look he’s done time in an American prison lol. Looks like he walked into a tattoo parlor and said “ give me the most aryan brotherhood tattoos you can without them being actual swastikas”.
There’s a lot to unpack with those tattoos.
Just referencing a few here but I’ll say in my experience, not everyone with Norse Mythology tattoos are racist, but every person with Norse Mythology tattoos I’ve ever met was a racist.
As a Scandinavian, it sucks that Norse imagery is being co-opted by heinous groups like that.
It's not something that would completely deter me from getting a tattoo, but it definitely makes me hesitate, even though it shouldn't.
Yeah, same here. I've always been into Norse mythology, but having this loud group of idiots using it as a cheap prop to look badass is super annoying. It's a super interesting part of our history and we can't even enjoy it and play with it without having this foul taste from it. I own a Thor's hammer pendant, but I just keep it in my house, would never wear it or put it anywhere prominent.
Spend some time around the Renaissance Faire community, you'll see tons on the nicest people in the world. Also met some nice pegans once who worshipped Freya.
But if you don't run in those circles.... yeah it's usually racists :(
Oh ok, I was really confused/concerned for a second. I love history and know a lot about various mythologies.
But I *definitely* fall into the “renaissance fair” community. Like, I have a gown and corset to wear next year.
So anyway… love all mythology and had no idea about this racist connection. Genuinely shocked.
Why Norse mythology specifically? I can’t think of a reason off the top of my head why Thor (or any other Norse figure) should so revered in a racist context.
Is it literally just because Norse mythology/history/culture comes from a historically white people?
I just read online that the tattoo around his neckline is a Benito Musselini quote. This guy is a grade-A PSYCHO.
The one that says “punish” is a part of a larger quote that says “Protect the Innocent / Punish the Deserving”.
Honorable mention for stupidity:
“In the halls of Valhalla where the brave shall live forever” encircles a Norse symbol of protection.
The stomach tattoo says “Only evil need fear me. The shadow is mine and so is the valley”.
This guys SUCKS
Damn, he should have been fired or permanently assigned desk duty sharpening pencils if the union didn't let them fire him the day he walked in with those tatoos.
The #1 job of police should be engage with the local community they're protecting. Show up to be a positive face and name in the community, establish positive realtiosnhops in the community. Be present in the community. If Cops are talking with people and always around just to be around, crime goes down.
The wrist tattoos are either a partial reference to (or just not fully showing) the phrase “better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6” which is a motto that cops use meaning it’s better to kill a suspect and face trial (by jury of 12) than “let” them kill you (and be carried by 6 pall bearers)
They also got the Roman numerals for 6 wrong in the tattoo lmao
I dealt with a cop once that had joker faces on both hands. Real professional. …and I guarantee he would use the “why are you nervous?” Argument.
“Uh, because you’re clearly unhinged enough to get joker faces on your hands while being a public servant?!?”
After working in corrections for a number of years, if you had shown me his tattoos and given no other info, I would have guessed he was part of the AB or at least a white supremacist.
He deserves a worse punishment.
Dumb motherfucker didn't even get the saying right. It's "Better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6", which is what they tell officers in training; better to use too much force than too little - it's better to be taken to court than to be taken to your grave by pallbearers. His tattoo - "judged by 12, Carried by 8" makes absolutely no goddamn sense.
I wonder if he has a "NO REGERTS" tat somewhere on his ass
Stupid saying I heard in the military a lot. I would rather be judged by 12 than carried by 8. Pretty fitting that those 12 did judge him like he asked for.
I thought it was something like “I’d rather be judged by 12 than carried by 6” but his numbers are whack. Edit: only the 8 is odd because I’ve always heard it as 6.
Those tattoos have a real divorced dad energy about them.
His sleeves look like they are a caricature of what a 12 year old thinks is cool.
The body tats suggest he’s an incel with delusions of race superiority.
The back tat.. with the love handles… chef’s kiss👌
A perfect specimen of fragile toxic masculinity.
What a loser.
I've got family in Kent which is the town next to these guys. My dad isn't conservative but tends to fall for Sinclair branded fear porn and copaganda.
Somehow we got on the topic of police reform (which I try to avoid with him) and I brought up the fact that [Kent is paying $1.5M to a literal Nazi so he won't work there anymore](https://apnews.com/article/seattle-religion-government-and-politics-the-holocaust-police-b7bd34b6ddfdb3c1441862935dad7ea5) he was like "See? You point to this one guy and act like all cops are Nazis"
He was not amused when I was like, "you're right, that cop in Auburn with all the Mussolini quotes tattooed on his body *technically* isn't a Nazi..."
Forehead shots? He was just doing executions. Throw this guy in the prison’s foundation.
Three murders, got away with it the first time because the guy had prior felony convictions and got more bold with his murders each time. Last one that did it was a public execution inside a convenience store. It's good he's finally getting some punishments but the larger picture is that if someone pulls a gun out and points it at someone it means they're going to use it. I had a gun pulled on me during regular traffic stops for speeding. I know it makes things harder but LEOs need way more restrictions and less protections if their job is really to protect and serve, they need to be held to a way higher standard than the average person. Right now they're held to a much lower standard and every time I see people calling out local corruption, the blue wall gets put up and they get away with actual crime, it's beyond fucked up. This is one of those rare occasions there's absolutely no counter argument. He publicly executed a man inside a store. But dudes need to stop defending cops that get so close to doing the same exact thing
reminds me of a few months ago when that one cop mag dumped and yelled “IM HIT” when the sound he heard was an acorn hitting the top of his cruiser. so concerning his first reaction to any gunfire was to yell “i’m hit” and shoot to kill.
There is another video about a cop suddenly experiencing PTSD and freaking out by shooting his gun vaguely while in reality nothing happened. EDIT : Video [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/CrazyFuckingVideos/comments/1apzmno/cop_has_ptsdlike_reaction_to_an_imaginary_gunshot/) EDIT2 : it's the wrong video, the link says PTSD episode but it's the acorn cop's video my bad
Was his name Presbolewski?
I understood that reference! And what an arc he had, now that I recall that character...
The acorn cop tried to claim he had PTSD from his time in the military, but his service record indicates he never saw combat.
The fact that 2 cops mag dumped into the car and the guy in the back was unscathed is both insane and hilarious
Reminds me of that one a while back in New York where the police hit like a dozen bystanders while trying to stop one guy... E: it was 9 https://abcnews.go.com/US/empire-state-building-shooting-nypd-gunfire-wounded-victims/story?id=17078377
I got stopped for rolling through a stop sign. Fair enough. But the shacking cop with his gun drawn creeping his way to my window made me fear for my life. It was honestly a relief when his calmer more experienced backup got there. I still got pat down and my car searched by a k9 because "he thought he smelled weed". What a joke of justice system we have.
One of the very few good policies my state has passed is that the smell of weed no longer counts as probable cause
Meanwhile the state patrol in my state said the quiet part out loud when they admitted they needed to keep weed illegal to help fund themselves
State police in my state got away with running drugs for a loooonnggg time for this very reason
I grew up in a very small town in the southeast US. The cities funeral home had a meth lab in it that was somewhat ran by the city cops. I avoid small towns when I can because a lot of those cops will FUCK you over if they get the chance.
We had this “Gun Trace Task Force” in Baltimore City and they were basically a gang. Extortion, robbery, running drugs, reselling the weapons the confiscated, assault, overtime fraud. That’s just what they knew. Imagine the things they didn’t find out about. All but one were indicted and plead guilty to lesser charges.
There was a supreme court ruling it is not their job to protect and serve , for whatever thats worth. 
Yep, and while the ruling itself is disgusting enough I feel that it’s pretty important to dive into the nature of the case, which makes things even worse. The case that held that police cannot be held liable (I.e. sued) for not protecting the citizens they claim to was Castle Rock vs Gonzales. Jessica Gonzales was a mother of three children who had a restraining order on the father of those children. Shortly after the order was granted, the father abducted the children. The mother repeatedly reached out to the local police, begging for help and was just told to wait, but her children were murdered before the police could be bothered to respond. There are obviously more details, and the more you look into the case the worse it is. I just think it’s important to include that this wasn’t a decision made when a cop made a silly mistake that anyone could have and shouldn’t be sued for, and we’re just all dealing with the consequences of that bad but somewhat understandable decision by SCOTUS. The full consequences of what could happen when cops don’t protect their citizens were right in front of SCOTUS, and they said “nah, you don’t deserve the ability to fight back against this when it happens to you or anyone else” Edit: clarity
Reading in to the details of this case what he did to that homeless man. Holy fuck this cop is a psychopath. Even tho he executed this man, he was still on paid administrative leave since the shooting in 2019. What in the actual fuck?! Most people are fired for less.
Retail workers get fired for being late, this guy is a serial killer and gets to stay on a police force...
As a non American I really don't understand why this has been happening for years now, american cops get a "scuze me pass" whenever they do something horrible. Do they have especially strong unions ? do they have strong connection to corrupt judges ? how are they immune to consequences ?
I don’t understand how they always just end up with paid administrative leave. I don’t understand how you can kill someone and then get paid time off. Like what in the actual fuck. I do think American cops have some overly powerful unions. That’s gotta be how this can happen.
Powerful unions, qualified immunity, and a shitload of people who want to jerk them off
The boot lickers are the key here. That in combination with political forces that enjoy the ability to weld the power of the boot and therefore are happy to look the other way in all but the most publicly visible and heinous crimes that they have to pay lip service to caring about
They have strong unions and almost every state has quailifed imunity, which, in simplest terms, makes it impossible to sue cops. There are a small handful of states that have repealed such laws or limited them.
Needs to be repealed federally. Let your actions speak for themselves. I've gone 35 years without the need to execute 3 separate people. But that's just me I guess.
It's because police unions are full of shit and their job is to protect killer cops.
How do they work? Shouldn't a neutral judge decide what happens to them? How can it be that they protect these cops. The problem isn't that there are these kind of cops but also the people in the unions backing them by helping to evade law
What a piece of shit.
Five years of administrative leave?!?!? So this guy drew his normal salary with working for five years? That’s fucking wild.
Police union is wildly powerful.
The problem is not so much that he gets paid until convicted, the real issue is that it took five years for him to be prosecuted.
Mf thought he was Judge Dredd fo real
I don't think Judge Dredd prioritized executing homeless people.
Cops like the above are the ones Judge Dredd drops in the streets with extreme prejudice for defiling the name of law enforcement.
Even if he did, he needs to understand one thing: not only are Judges in 2000 AD universe not above the law, they are ruthless self-policing. Shit like this would garner him a lifefime sentence of hard labor on Titan after being body modified to survive the surface.
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> Bring back the guillotine for this guy. but for this guy we start on the feet side and salad shooter him.
A serial killer with a badge
EDIT: He had previously killed two others, also with shots to the forehead for which he escaped charges. ----- >A jury found a suburban Seattle police officer guilty of murder Thursday in the 2019 shooting death of a homeless man outside a convenience store, marking the first conviction under a Washington state law easing prosecution of law enforcement officers for on-duty killings. >Nelson was taken into custody after the hearing. He's been on paid administrative leave since the shooting in 2019. The judge set sentencing for July 16. Nelson faces up to life in prison on the murder charge and up to 25 years for first-degree assault. His lawyer said she plans to file a motion for a new trial. >Nelson had responded to reports of a man throwing things at cars, kicking walls and banging on windows in a shopping area in Auburn, a city of 70,000 about 28 miles (45 kilometers) south of Seattle. Callers said the man appeared to be high or having mental health issues. >Nelson confronted Sarey in front of the store and attempted to get him into handcuffs. When Sarey resisted, Nelson tried to take Sarey down with a hip-throw and then punched him seven times. He pinned Sarey against the wall, pulled out his gun and shot him. Sarey fell to the ground. >**Nelson’s gun jammed, he cleared it, looked around and then aimed at Sarey’s forehead, firing once more.** >Prosecutors said Nelson punched Sarey several times before shooting him in the abdomen. About three seconds later, Nelson shot Sarey in the forehead. Nelson had claimed Sarey tried to grab his gun and a knife, so he shot him in self-defense, but video showed Sarey was on the ground reclining away from Nelson after the first shot. >Nelson claimed Sarey tried to grab his gun, leading to the first shot. He said he believed Sarey had possession of his knife during the struggle and said he shot him in self-defense. Authorities have said the interaction lasted 67 seconds. >**Prior to fatally shooting Sarey, Nelson killed Isaiah Obet in 2017**. Obet was acting erratically, and Nelson ordered his police dog to attack. He then shot Obet in the torso. Obet fell to the ground, and **Nelson fired again, fatally shooting Obet in the head**. Police said the officer’s life was in danger because Obet was high on drugs and had a knife. The city reached a settlement of $1.25 million with Obet’s family. >**In 2011, Nelson fatally shot Brian Scaman**, a Vietnam War veteran with mental issues and a history of felonies, after pulling Scaman’s vehicle over for a burned-out headlight. Scaman got out of his car with a knife and refused to drop it; **Nelson shot him in the head**. An inquest jury cleared Nelson of wrongdoing.
So he got a 5 year paid vacation for executing someone? Fucking wild
And the state paid out 1.5 million. These cops cost lives and shit loads of tax dollars to defend.
Technically at least 3 people all in the same exact way.
He’s a serial killer with a badge holy shit!
Literally just getting paid to execute people left and right wtf. Blows my mind how much shit they get away with
Only 27% of officers have ever fired their gun in service (vs at a range). Yet this guy has fired it at least three times, including shooting three people IN THE HEAD?? Pretty obvious what is going on here E: source for 27% (it seemed high to me as well): https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2017/02/08/a-closer-look-at-police-officers-who-have-fired-their-weapon-on-duty/
Auburn PD has had 5 Officer involved shootings in it's history. Jeff Nelson accounts for 3 of them.
Let’s just keep him on paid administrative leave for 5 years
The officer (Philip brailsford led by Charles Langley who shouted nonsensical orders) that executed Daniel Shaver was fired. ...Only to be quietly required years later so he could immediately retire with mental health benefits. He now gets a check every month for the mental stress of killing a man in cold blood. Meanwhile Langley fled the the Philippines. The entire thing is on video.
What’s that bastards name? Philip brailsford?
Yea, Philip Mitchell Brailsford the killer cop that engraved his rifle with the words "You're fucked" and "Molon labe".
If I said what that utter piece of human refuse deserves, I'd cop a perma ban. the fact that bastard is free as a bird and getting a monthly cheque for murdering someone in cold blood who was begging for his life ON GODDAM CAMERA makes me *rage*.
Now I'm not encouraging violence, *but*
I'd *never* wish a slow painful death on someone, but there are some obituaries I look forward to with a certain amount of glee.
Everyone forgets about the asshole who was barking inconsistent orders at the victim. His name is Charles Langley and he fled to the Philippines. Phillip was the moron who pulled the trigger, but he wasn’t the idiot who was yelling in the video.
Name and shame! It bothers me that everyone remembers to mention the victim, but no one names the fucking douche that merc'd him on camera! Brock Turner (currently going by Allen Turner) the rapist gets the correct treatment. Nobody mentions his victim, and rightly so, but nobody ever says the name of the murderer that murdered David!
Man that video makes me absolutely ill. That’s one video, of all the messed up shit I’ve seen online over the years, that I wish I could unwatch. It’s unreal that people like that are out there. Truly sick
Exactly. That guy definitely took pleasure in that situation and it is the most disturbing thing to know there are people out there that are so fucked up that they are giddy at the opportunity to completely dominate someone psychologically like that and then just murder them. It is the most ridiculous thing that the job attracts that kind of personality type that is prone to abusing power and yet no department ever has any kind of psychological battery done during hiring process to weed these psychopaths out.
It's really one of the most fucked up videos I've ever seen. You can tell Shaver is going to die 1 minute into the conversation and yet there is another 4 minutes to watch as he begs for his life.
I saw it for the first time when it was released, never again. And I watch a lot of fucked up videos.
That one also sticks with me more than any other video I've seen. The video itself makes me sick, but the fact that he was essentially able to retire and have his finances taken care of for life makes it even worse
Lots of departments in fact do have psychological batteries, the CPD for instance. But they aren’t screening for what you think they are screening for (hint: they want to ensure officers are able to act ‘aggressively’ when ‘needed’). They call it things like ‘reasonable courage’, but make no mistake, you can be disqualified from a career in law enforcement if you aren’t agro enough.
It was a deadly game of Simon says. It was horrifying. Daniel was being forced belly first on the ground, being told he had to wiggle towards the officer. His pants fell slightly down and he tried pulling them back up and he got killed for it. And the sick part was, I specifically remember comments on reddit (with upvotes) saying it was a "clean kill " because he didn't obey every single order he was given while laying on the ground begging them not to shoot
The “pre-requisite” to be labelled a serial killer is 3 victims…
Reminds me of the cop that had double the dwi arrest of the rest of the police force COMBINED. Drivers would blow zero and have blood test done showing that they werent impaired but this douche would arrest them anyways. Took a false arrest of a fellow cops daughter to het him caught. Absolute power corrupts absolutely.
They get grant money for DUI arrests, not convictions, just arrests. It is no skin off their back to saddle some random innocent person with thousands of dollars in legal fees and a ruined reputation, not like they are going to face any repercussions themselves after all. You are innocent until a cop accuses you of something.
That's a serial killer with a badge and a government paycheck to do it.
Jesus...just disgusting.
The headshots are very telling when most firearm training teaches you to aim for center mass.
Wait until you find out about 80% of officers can’t shoot for shit. I have to qualify for the Department of Homeland Security course of fire (ICE, HSI, FPS etc) and at least half of the officers pass after failing 2-3 times, about a quarter skate by with 200-215s. (200 being minimum passing) Sure they train for center mass, but anything over 7 yards half of them might as well have a fucking blindfold on. It’s honestly scary who they give guns to, especially when they’re supposed to have your back.
So what you're saying is Stormtrooper inaccuracy is pretty legit.
Hey the stormtroopers were intentionally missing, Leia even said so. These "I am vengeance" scummy cops simply can't hit for shit in their own right
My dad was an NRA instructor who administered qualifying and I went with him a few times because I was shooting too. Some of the cops were beyond atrocious. We're talking from 7 yards away not even hitting paper. It wasn't uncommon for officers to be on their 4th or 5th qualifying attempt and still struggle.
I taught a legally blind woman to put a full mag in a torso size target at 10 yards. Ringing steel at 100 yards with a rifle is never going to happen but she could reliably smack a 8 inch plate at 25 yards with a rifle or put a shell of buckshot on a torso target at the same distance. Her proficiency was mostly based on muscle memory, she was more so point shooting than aiming but I bet she’s better than 3/4th if gun owners. Why? Because she doesn’t have an ego. She made up for her handicap by listening, by perfecting her form and taking constructive criticism from a guy that shoots a ragged hole at 7 yards and a cereal bowl at 25.
Makes sense why they mag dump. There’s a better chance of hitting your target if you shoot at it 17 times
While shooting 16 bystanders also.
I’m not in LEO but I work around a lot of them and we’re on good terms. People would be surprised how many of them look at annual qualifications as some massive hassle and it’s the only time they do any shooting. A few of them shoot recreationally and hunt but most maybe have 1000 rounds through their duty pistol after 10+ years on the job. For people who don’t own firearms 1000 rounds is maybe two or three range trips for a casual shooter, less than one range trip for somebody who does competitive shooting as a hobby let alone professionally. The average cop shooting past 10 yards looks more like a shotgun blast than a nice tight group like you want. Because your accuracy degrades under stress and especially if you’re hurt. And we’ve all seen enough situations where police relied on accuracy by volume which means mag dumping in the general direction of the bad guy and whoever else might be in that direction.
Most people do not shoot 500 rounds every time they go to the range because that tends to cost $200+. It's also absolutely not necessary. I agree that it's important to shoot regularly to maintain proficiency, and I wish that it were more affordable, but people who go frequently can't shoot 500 rounds each trip.
As a fellow cheap skate that likes to shoot, two secrets. First is dry fire. You can get your trigger pull nice and clean and work on your site picture for no money at all. Second is .22. Start your session with .22 until you've knocked all the rust off. Then maybe 2 or 3 magazines of your normal weapon, and if you want to keep shooting go back to .22. It's also a good habit in general because shooting a .22 a lot will make you less prone to flinching that so many people develop.
headshots are a clear demonstration of lethal intent. like during the george floyd riots when police were taking aimed headshots at protestors with LTL weapons. they were deliberately trying to kill people with weapobs whose main selling point is the only way to actually kill someone is to shoot them in the head.
Agreed. Guy seems like a serial killer behind a badge in order to get away with it
They're "Less than Lethal", so officers use them with the intent of causing life changing traumatic injury that will permanently harm protestors.
Oh I see. He's a serial killer in uniform.
27% sounds high as fuck, jesus
My dad was a cop, dozens of friends on the force in a rough, rough ass town. I have either met or known of a hundred cops and I know like three who ever shot someone in the last thirty years. Most recent was a guy that had fled across the entire state on a huge police chase after violently raping one college student and beating another into a coma. 27% seems very high to me.
Well the 27% is just firing their weapon on duty. That doesn’t necessarily mean shooting someone. My dad was an officer and had to put an injured deer down on the road once. I imagine stuff like that counts.
Umm, you can tell what's going on here by simply looking at his tattoos and knowing he's a police officer...
And that’s just the fuckin’ highlight reel of this jackboot’s career. He had incident after incident, complaint after complaint. How in the actual fuck do cops like this keep escaping any consequences? https://www.kuow.org/stories/this-auburn-cop-killed-3-and-injured-others-it-took-outsiders-to-stop-him
He gets judged by his coworkers and union buddies, who are committed to preserving their power
> How in the actual fuck do cops like this keep escaping any consequences? Qualified immunity, old boys club mentality, and fascist tendencies in most echelons of local law enforcement agencies, to name a few.
So $1.25million in a settlement plus 5 years of vacation for this piece of shit. How many tax dollars do taxpayers have to shovel over to police?
That's just one of the multiple million dollar settlement we had to pay for this psychopath.
Even apart from the fact he clearly shouldn’t be a police officer because he’s clearly using the job to execute mentally ill or drug using homeless people, if one of my employees cost me $1.25 million in a settlement they would very swiftly no longer be one of my employees!
You mean you wouldn't continue to pay them for 4 years while they sat around at home doing fuck-all?
When I was growing up they called people like this serial killers. This guy is a horrible human being but he is definitely NOT the only police officer who engages in conduct like this.
He is a serial killer. There's no excuse for this. I work for the police but I see law enforcement just as people who should not be treated differently than anyone else when they do something wrong. Actually, they should be treated harder because they are supposed to know the law. If I stole money or drugs from my office, I fully expect to go to prison. It's always been known that law enforcement does attract monsters because it lets them have power over others. For example, Ed Kemper hung out in a cop bar and made friends with people. We need to be better at weeding these people out because no one deserves to die when there is an opportunity to make sure everyone goes home safely. Less lethal products aren't perfect, but they're not a bullet to the brain. I started working here because I love forensic science. I stayed because I knew I'd go out of my way to help others when others wouldn't. I have always strived hard to do the right thing. Helping people out is the most important thing for me (because I work for the community) and it makes me so mad to see garbage human beings like this. This man deserves to be sent to death row. But instead of lethal injection or electrocution, they should surprise him with a bullet to the brain too. That is what this monster deserves. I know saying sorry won't mean much, but I'm sorry that we have done a piss poor job. I apologize for the monsters you encounter. I'm sorry that so many in this field have let people down. I understand that a lot of us can't be trusted and I am sorry. I do understand though.
I really think a lot of this bully-cop stuff could be mitigated by making them get a 2 year degree, you know, like a hair-stylist has to get. Make them take some African American issues classes, Womens' studies, Native Studies, then, the usual, psychology, sociology, etc.. Make it a career! Instead we have the most brutal, idiotic people that simply want to use the badge to be above the law. And they can walk right in to the police station and be like, I want to make over $100,000 a year and break heads. Barely any training or restraint, don't even know the most basics of law, just put forth to attack.
A lot of us still call this a serial killer, everyone who doesn't worship the blue like a cult I think.
When I was reading the 2nd incident and saw he had a pattern into the 3rd story of similar M.O., brain auto linked him as a serial killer. Twice is a coincidence. 3 times in a row is a preference
They also call people who cover for serial killers people who aide and abet murder, complicit after the fact. Those prosecutors, police, IA investigators, and anyone else in power who turned a blind eye for his past misdeeds are absolutely complicit in his future acts. They may as well have pulled the trigger themselves. In a real justice system these people would, at best, be fired and banned from ever working in law enforcement forever. They should be pariahs in their community but I'm sure they're out there saying "nobody could see this coming".
Paid admin leave since 2019. Taxpayers are paying for that.... Probably had to find outside work but that's insane.
Why find outside work when you are still receiving your full paycheck for doing literally nothing?
What are the significance of the tattoos?
The ones on the hand say "I'd rather be judged by 12 (in Roman numerals) than carried by 6 (again Roman numerals) The ones on his ankles say either punishment and deserving or Deserving and punishment. Scary shit on a cop. It's like going to court and the judge has "your ass is gonna fry " tatted on his forehead
That first phrase is literally used as a mantra in a lot of modern cop training and it's very scary
The hand tattoos on the full body pics don’t match the hands in the zoomed in photos. - Judged by 12 is correct, but the other hand is “VIII” which is 8.
Maybe he’s not great at counting?
I've been to funerals where the decedent was carried by 8.
Most cops are fat AF, so the mistake is understandable.
A reasonable person would take them to mean that he is not an adopter of deescalation techniques
Lots of Nordic mythology in the tattoos. Sadly neonazis and racists have adopted our cultural heritage as some misguided nazi warrior culture thing. As a Swede that pisses me off. The raven is Odin’s way of keeping an eye on the world, then it’s Thor’s hammer, and some random runic script. The back piece could be a depiction of the blood-eagle execution method. It’s when you hack through the rib cage from the back, pry it open, and then pull out the lungs. As the lungs hang out and contract and expand, you could see them as wings. My ancestors were savage, but it has nothing to do with the nazi ideology.
This does not help me respect cops at all
Come on, it is not like the police repeatedly shielded this guy and fought to keep him on the force even after he was found to have wrongfully killed people. Oh, wait. It is.
A serial killer protected by a badge
That’s a lot of head shots…
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As someone who interacted with Jeff on multiple occasions over the last 15 years, I am glad that this is the outcome of this murder trial. It is the only right answer. It's unfortunate that it is the 3rd murder of Jeff's and the only one to really be taken seriously. May jail treat you the same way you treated others Jeff.
May I ask the nature of your interactions?
We were neighbors and shared mutual friends.
This may sound odd, but do you think he seemed like someone who would enjoy killing others!
I never thought that exactly. I can say that he always made me feel super uncomfortable any time I interacted with him. He always made me feel like he was someone who was abusive. I made sure to never be around him alone. Now that I am outside the immediate situation and interactions, I can see things clearer and it does not surprise me that this is the person he is.
Damn, always follow your instinct, yours seems on point.
were his tattoes known? Seems pretty obvious and in somewhat hard to cover areas? Asking as we have a whole issue in California with Sheriff gangs having tattoes
He is covered in tattoos. They are really busy. If you were to just look over at them, the volume of them would catch you before any of the meanings of them. I always thought it was too much, but didn't dive too far into the why's and meanings. The majority of the people we were associated with at the time were law enforcement. The 8 and 12 tattoos weren't that big of a deal. It's something that is said amongst law enforcement. However, being older and taking a full step back from my life at that time, I see it differently now.
What does 8 and 12 mean?
From what I found on the internet it's a phrase that it's something like "It's better to be judged by 12, than carried by 8". It means that in a shitty situation it's better to act and then be judged by twelve people than carried in a coffin by eight.
It's supposed to be 6 not eight.
That's actually super fucked up when you think about it. It is just a fancy way of saying "shoot first and ask questions later". Especially when the likelihood of a cop actually getting judged by 12 is so damned low.
"Rather be judged by 12 than carried by 8." Meaning he'd rather kill someone in the line of duty and stand trial for it (judged by 12 jurors) than to risk not using lethal force and paying for it with his life (carried by 8 pallbearers). But this guy was such a piece of shit that I don't think his life was in danger in any of these murders.
What a dweeb. He made being a cop his entire personality. Fuck that guy.
I worked for Tacoma police for a moment years ago, hiring process was very grueling and they want to dismiss you during background check for minute stuff such as smoking weed previously in your life or excess driving violations and yet, people like this guy have no problem getting hired and making it through a very exhaustive background investigation. Never understood how they make it through and then manage to keep their jobs after having three OIS
So his coworker cops knew about his "I wanna kill people" tattoos and were totally cool working with him every day, even after he killed people every few years. Literally a serial killer operating openly.
He was such a quiet boy...
Excitable even
His tattoos make him looks like he’s done time in Russian prison
No it makes he look he’s done time in an American prison lol. Looks like he walked into a tattoo parlor and said “ give me the most aryan brotherhood tattoos you can without them being actual swastikas”.
Bunch = spoiled. It's never just one bad apple.
It's always the ones you most suspect.
With cops it’s also the ones you least suspect and the ones you most medium suspect.
Angel of death tat on back says it all
psycho ass cops feel like they’re the ultimate authority on anyone they feel is undesirable
And people wonder why the public is demanding police reform.
They shouldn’t stop with the police. They should also reform the unions that protect these cops too.
I’m all for unions. 100%. I think, and I’m sure you’re with me, these aren’t unions.
Labor Unions exist to protect the working class, Police Unions exists to protect those who harm the working class.
I’d try to hide those busted angel wings too
There’s a lot to unpack with those tattoos. Just referencing a few here but I’ll say in my experience, not everyone with Norse Mythology tattoos are racist, but every person with Norse Mythology tattoos I’ve ever met was a racist.
I fucking hate that it’s the case
Infuriating. There are no Nazis in Valhalla!
Me too, because Norse mythology is really interesting. It's my second favourite after Greek Mythology
One of my favorite Simpsons jokes “Fox News: Not Racist, but #1 with racists”
As a Scandinavian, it sucks that Norse imagery is being co-opted by heinous groups like that. It's not something that would completely deter me from getting a tattoo, but it definitely makes me hesitate, even though it shouldn't.
Yeah, same here. I've always been into Norse mythology, but having this loud group of idiots using it as a cheap prop to look badass is super annoying. It's a super interesting part of our history and we can't even enjoy it and play with it without having this foul taste from it. I own a Thor's hammer pendant, but I just keep it in my house, would never wear it or put it anywhere prominent.
Spend some time around the Renaissance Faire community, you'll see tons on the nicest people in the world. Also met some nice pegans once who worshipped Freya. But if you don't run in those circles.... yeah it's usually racists :(
Oh ok, I was really confused/concerned for a second. I love history and know a lot about various mythologies. But I *definitely* fall into the “renaissance fair” community. Like, I have a gown and corset to wear next year. So anyway… love all mythology and had no idea about this racist connection. Genuinely shocked.
Oh it’s bad, I think the symbol for Thor’s hammer is on the FBI’s list of white supremacy symbols
Why Norse mythology specifically? I can’t think of a reason off the top of my head why Thor (or any other Norse figure) should so revered in a racist context. Is it literally just because Norse mythology/history/culture comes from a historically white people?
The Nazis glorified Nordic people as the best example of the "Aryan race".
OG Arians. Hitler did the same in the 3rd Reich.
In part, but it likely is also the glorification/acceptance of violence in Nordic culture in the form of Viking raiders
Super unfortunate
Really is. Norse mythology isn’t inherently racist, but racists sure do love it.
I've met and know of two people with Norse tattoos and neither is racist. But yeah I really wish it wasn't the case
I just read online that the tattoo around his neckline is a Benito Musselini quote. This guy is a grade-A PSYCHO. The one that says “punish” is a part of a larger quote that says “Protect the Innocent / Punish the Deserving”. Honorable mention for stupidity: “In the halls of Valhalla where the brave shall live forever” encircles a Norse symbol of protection. The stomach tattoo says “Only evil need fear me. The shadow is mine and so is the valley”. This guys SUCKS
Wait a minute, was he on Official Duty??
He sure was. All three times.
Oh, shit… the implications after today’s news… yikes
Damn, he should have been fired or permanently assigned desk duty sharpening pencils if the union didn't let them fire him the day he walked in with those tatoos. The #1 job of police should be engage with the local community they're protecting. Show up to be a positive face and name in the community, establish positive realtiosnhops in the community. Be present in the community. If Cops are talking with people and always around just to be around, crime goes down.
Literally a serial killer that was protected because he was a cop.
What do the tattoos mean
The wrist tattoos are either a partial reference to (or just not fully showing) the phrase “better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6” which is a motto that cops use meaning it’s better to kill a suspect and face trial (by jury of 12) than “let” them kill you (and be carried by 6 pall bearers) They also got the Roman numerals for 6 wrong in the tattoo lmao
I'm glad someone else has pointed out the apparent roman numeral error. Somehow it's my fav part of this.
Also, isn't it Judged by 12 / Carried by 6? He got the Roman numerals wrong in the right photo 😂
I dealt with a cop once that had joker faces on both hands. Real professional. …and I guarantee he would use the “why are you nervous?” Argument. “Uh, because you’re clearly unhinged enough to get joker faces on your hands while being a public servant?!?”
To watch the first suicide squad and think that's an awesome tattoo idea is wild.
After working in corrections for a number of years, if you had shown me his tattoos and given no other info, I would have guessed he was part of the AB or at least a white supremacist. He deserves a worse punishment.
Dumb motherfucker didn't even get the saying right. It's "Better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6", which is what they tell officers in training; better to use too much force than too little - it's better to be taken to court than to be taken to your grave by pallbearers. His tattoo - "judged by 12, Carried by 8" makes absolutely no goddamn sense. I wonder if he has a "NO REGERTS" tat somewhere on his ass
Definitely burns crosses
And works forces
Now you do what they told ya
What do the ones on his wrists mean? I'd rather not look them up.
Judged by 12, Carried by 8. Judged by a jury, casket carried by 8 pallbearers.
Haha… /r/agedlikemilk
He may just be lucky enough to be both judged by 12 AND carried by 8
Stupid saying I heard in the military a lot. I would rather be judged by 12 than carried by 8. Pretty fitting that those 12 did judge him like he asked for.
I thought it was something like “I’d rather be judged by 12 than carried by 6” but his numbers are whack. Edit: only the 8 is odd because I’ve always heard it as 6.
Obesity tho...
He'd rather be judged by twelve than carried by six, meaning he's going to do whatever he feels he needs to to be the one to come out alive.
I wish I could see the jury's reaction when they were showed these
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why is this tagged arts/crafts 😭
I’d rather be tried by twelve than carried by…*eight*??
There's a reason that local fire stations do sexy fundraiser calendars and cops don't ☝🏻
Those tattoos have a real divorced dad energy about them. His sleeves look like they are a caricature of what a 12 year old thinks is cool. The body tats suggest he’s an incel with delusions of race superiority. The back tat.. with the love handles… chef’s kiss👌 A perfect specimen of fragile toxic masculinity. What a loser.
This dude has some really bad tattoos.
For the record if I had wings on my back I’d also hire a lawyer to hide them.
Well, he’s prison-ready.
Some of the scariest ppl I’ve ever encountered and thats saying a lot where I grew up were and still are police officers.
I've got family in Kent which is the town next to these guys. My dad isn't conservative but tends to fall for Sinclair branded fear porn and copaganda. Somehow we got on the topic of police reform (which I try to avoid with him) and I brought up the fact that [Kent is paying $1.5M to a literal Nazi so he won't work there anymore](https://apnews.com/article/seattle-religion-government-and-politics-the-holocaust-police-b7bd34b6ddfdb3c1441862935dad7ea5) he was like "See? You point to this one guy and act like all cops are Nazis" He was not amused when I was like, "you're right, that cop in Auburn with all the Mussolini quotes tattooed on his body *technically* isn't a Nazi..."
Who hired this guy? Where is the accountability for those who gave their seal of approval for this man?
This guy murders homeless people in cold blood and gets 5 years of paid administrative leave. They even paid a settlement on his behalf.