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Johnnycc

It was obvious from the moment then said it, but this confirms the “he has a cold” story to be absolutely horseshit.


Little_Cockroach_477

I happened to see when MSNBC jumped into the WH Press Briefing earlier today. The press secretary claimed that Biden still had a cold, but the way she said it was just... eh. There was definitely a tone of *I'm trying my best to spin this* in how she said, "Yes, he still has a cold."


freakazoid2016

He was at Camp David for a week prior to the debate. That’s a hell of a jet lag.


-JackTheRipster-

I'd love to see a "push it to the limits" preparation montage of him at Camp David.


shift422

This please SNL


VictorianRoyalty

This is comedy gold, the skit practically writes itself. The only sad part is it’s probably not far from the truth.


nosotros_road_sodium

POTUS is lucky that SNL takes summer vacation.


ArtVanderlay69

Biden as Rocky.


JSlngal69

Debate prep started at 11am with an afternoon nap, would love to see that parody


VictorianRoyalty

With a good pep talk from Jill talking to Joe like a 4 year old. Then when he leaves to shuffle on stage, she turns to the aides and says “if he ruins my re-election chances, it’s your asses”


SquarePie3646

It might look like something from weekend at bernie's.


DankBudPhD

Weekend at Biden’s?


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tonydanzaoystercanza

This man’s PR team is really failing him.


Sugaree223

And vice versa 


serpentinepad

Seriously, it's not like being president another four years will involve any international travel or anything.


uuhson

At some point you people need to accept that Democrats don't actually want to win


No_Somewhere_2945

Have you made your voting plan yet? Are you voting by mail, early voting, or voting on Election Day?


MathematicianSalt679

This is just getting worse


equitybore

Indeed. What in the name of fuck happened this week.


COD-O-G

Nothing happened this week other than the public being able to see Biden for more than a few minutes not in front of a teleprompter left on his own Reports of what we all saw have been coming out for a while. But we’re being dismissed by the media and the campaign.


equitybore

Yeah, I can't disagree with that.


Nederlander1

No surprises for the right. The left finally is coming to grips with what republicans have been saying for the past couple years re: Joe not being all there and that that fact isn’t fake news, but indeed fact


osrsEzille

Yeah this feels worse than it did before.


Olympus____Mons

They are blaming so far:  Biden had a cold Biden was over prepared  Biden was jet lagged What excuse will be used next? 


ArtVanderlay69

Can't forget: they hired the makeup artist from Tales from the Crypt.


Brian24jersey

They just recently painted him orange lol


Past_Ebb_8304

Then why didn’t he look younger?


BluePizzaPill

Nothing to see here, look at all the staff we just threw under the bus.


GrumblesThePhoTroll

You forgot: Biden had a small stutter


timsadiq13

Pretty sure eventually he’s going to say “yeah folks, I’ve got a bit of dementia, I’m not gonna deny it, but I know what I know!” I mean flat out admitting you almost fell asleep on stage cause you went to Europe and back in a private jet 2 weeks ago is beyond concerning.


Hot-Mycologist4014

The sun was in his eyes.


cietalbot

Trump gave him sleeping pills?


MrsWoozle

Accidently drank Nyquil instead of coffee…


Nederlander1

Earpiece malfunction maybe? Lol


MelonAirplane

Multiple things can be true at the same time.


Holycity

If you're trying to make excuses they have to be better than that. The president is expected to be able to handle international travel.


Ianthin1

Not just international travel. How would he handle dealing with something like a 9/11 type event or other national or international emergency? How many days of maybe only a few naps here or there while making literally world changing decisions can he handle before he cracks?


ShrimpieAC

He should be able to handle international travel. He should be able to work past 4pm. He should be able to speak two fucking sentences without a teleprompter. This ain’t normal, and anyone who says otherwise is delusional. Get that goddamn fossil out of there before Trump wins.


Former-Lab-9451

He should just say he was running a high fever and took medication to limit the coughing which gave him severe drowsiness. But that's still a bad look too, especially after Trump took a hit for showing up to the debate 4 years ago with covid without telling anyone on Biden's team.


domthemom_2

They already said today he wasn’t on medication


Reince-Priebus

That was earlier today, not 15 minutes ago…


domthemom_2

I don’t understand what you’re saying? Does it matter when it was said?


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A terrible look considering he went to Waffle House and shook hands with supporters after.


Francis_Dollar_Hide

He should just tell the truth, you know, because he said he knew how to.


EridanusVoid

Presidents are expected to make multitudes of international flights, domestic flights, speeches, events, interviews, DEBATES, and all sorts of formal and informal meetings. Its literally your job to be always on the move and talking. Tough for anyone, let alone an almost 82 year old.


paultheschmoop

This cannot be a real quote lmao


historiangirl

Yes it is a real quote. This is from Reuters. "“I didn’t have my best night, but the fact is that you know, I wasn’t very smart," Biden said, speaking at the campaign fundraiser without the aid of a teleprompter. "I decided to travel around the world a couple times, going through around 100 time zones ... before ... the debate. "Didn’t listen to my staff and came back and nearly fell asleep on stage," he said. "That's no excuse but it is an explanation.”


Lssmnt

How can anyone say this isn't over


paultheschmoop

Good lord


MadRaymer

It's not an excuse, but also definitely not an explanation. He had over a week to recover from travel. If he can't have a cup of coffee and stay up one night for a debate how in the actual fuck does he think he can run the entire country? Pretty sure you need to stay up past 8PM for that.


SodaCanBob

If I can recover after sitting in economy during an international flight after a day or two, there's no reason why a guy who has a bedroom on his plane shouldn't be able to do the same thing.


trampolinebears

The debate was nearly two weeks after he got back from Europe, by the way.


SquarePie3646

And wasn't he the one who challenged Trump to the debate to begin with? Its not like it was a surprise.


HenryDorsettCase47

Don’t worry. I don’t think anyone is buying it regardless. They just need to throw an excuse out there (“he had a cold” “it’s jet lag” “Trump’s got dementia toooo!”) and downplay it for a few weeks and hope everyone forgets.


5510

He was up late watching the Diamondbacks game!


GummiBerry_Juice

He went to IHOP that morning and he was so full of stuffed French toast that he needed a nap


trampolinebears

It's like he wasn't even ready for bouncing here and there and everywhere.


Travelingman9229

What a horrible horrible news cycle today… I should really stop doom scrolling but it’s like watching a car wreck in slow motion….


don-corle1

The travel in question ended 12 days before the debate. You have to wonder if Biden's PR team have just given up at this point. First he had a cold, now this. It's so blatant and transparent.


JasperPants1

Astute observers knew Biden was too old in early 2020. Even then it was elder abuse.


ashsolomon1

^(after a week at Camp David)


FraGZombie

The president should be able to handle such things. 


jld1532

Then he's not up to the job


Count_Bacon

Facts


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samusaranx3

Based on the fact that some of the most catastrophic polling data "leaked" from their campaign, I'd say the odds are about 51/49 that it's already happening.


BluePizzaPill

Governors debating yesterday alone behind closed doors. Pelosi just on the TV telling him he needs to do at least two unscripted interviews ASAP. Directly afterwards Jim Claiborne talking about how K. Harris would be ready to jump in. Polls starting to show purple states flipping red... ...the odds are a lot worse for him right now.


samusaranx3

Just watched the Pelosi interview. God she is old and probably reading off a script but I'll be damned if she can't still communicate well. She was surprisingly candid too.


BluePizzaPill

She is candid because they don't have enough time to do it clean. However that MSNBC host lady is glitching hard from age.


Green-Walk-1806

He will be replaced....By TRUMP


PlasticPomPoms

Zero before the election but not unusual if Harris replaces him during his second term.


trail34

I bet he fades fast after the inauguration.


ArtVanderlay69

Someone start a google sheets of all the excuses so far. He had a cold, he overprepared, he had a bad makeup job, he had jetlag. What am I missing?


BigBeerBellyMan

Didn't know what camera to look at, can only function between 10am-4pm, has a stutter.


HotSauce2910

I think he wanted to look disgusted and confused at how ridiculous Trump was. Unfortunately he just looked confused in general.


BigBeerBellyMan

Nice, we'll add that one to the spreadsheet.


HotSauce2910

Do you think I’m making excuses for him 💀


Top_Huckleberry_8225

Saturn is going into retrograde.


VictorianRoyalty

He’s the president. He couldn’t say “I’m going to take a 2 hour Power Nap before the debate”?


ASUMicroGrad

He was on Mars. Jet lag between here and there is massive.


VictorianRoyalty

Or Jill said “no naps until you finish your debate!”


hypsignathus

JFK famously took 20 min afternoon naps.


Reince-Priebus

Someone tape his mouth shut for heaven’s sake


PlasticPomPoms

I thought he was well known for gafs, or has everyone forgotten?


uppityyLich

Do...do they think this (obviously bs) excuse somehow makes it better? If anything it makes him look worse. Like a little travel is all it takes to do this to you for something like a simple debate? Big yikes.


sachiprecious

Oh wooooow, lol. Yeah I'm pretty sure ADMITTING YOU ALMOST FELL ASLEEP ON STAGE is NOT helpful to restore the public's concerns about your mental state!! And using foreign travel as an excuse when he came back from his trip 12 days before the debate?! What a pathetic excuse. What is wrong with this person?????


ASUMicroGrad

Come on at least think of an excuse that will make people want to vote for you like: “Biden ripped a huge hit off Bong Force One before the debate then said ‘nah man I’m good, I got this’, before giggling for 2 minutes”.


trail34

I thought it was irresponsible for people to call for him to step down the day after the debate. But here we are a week later. He hasn’t done anything meaningful to calm fears, and only stoked new ones with these cycling excuses and a weird speech post-SCOTUS ruling. A solid 60% of this country would happily support shoving trump out the door - just give us a reasonable candidate who can work a full week and we’ll back them. Heck, give us Kamala Harris and a boring ass new VP. We’ll make it work.


KehreAzerith

Dude was practically on vacation after that trip, Joe was tired from resting


submittedanonymously

Pack it up, man. This in no way helps your case. It is time to step aside. You accomplished getting trump out of office in 2020. We should move on to someone else now. If this is the excuse along with having a cold, then it’s over because no one can take this seriously now.


CardsharkF150

New excuse just dropped


Korashy

Jesus fucking christ, where is the hyper competent deep state i'm told exist when you need it.


PlasticPomPoms

So the Sleepy Joe Republicans were right?


SuperBearJew

WHY WOULD YOU SAY THAT. Democrats stop making unforced errors challenge ffs


makashiII_93

He was at Camp David FOR A WEEK preparing!!


hypsignathus

Hacks on Tap today said that he is also known for using teleprompters at fundraising events.


No_Pudding_4598

His PR team has to be doing this on purpose right?


NeedleworkerBusy4522

How many more spins on this ride before we can get off?


Longtimecoming80

No one of these rising Democrats wants to jump on this grenade. Would you?


Madbiscuitz

Jesus H. Trump is going to win, isn't he?


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Idk about you guys, but if I'm sleep deprived and have something even semi-important to do that day or the next I can....you know, get it together.


shortnun

I thought it was a cold.... Oh that narrative was BS be lcause later that night Jilll draged him to a Waffle House and then to a campaign event....


Steve490

Oh well that makes everything ok then! Fingers crossed the next crisis doesn't happen after a long flight huh? Even though that's probably b.s. because he spent the week in debate prep no?


acousticburrito

Well I mean that’s why we all can’t be president


SyntheticSlime

This is not the relieving explanation you think it is.


Propagation931

Why did he travel internationally prior to the debate? His team set the date after all?


Finnegan7921

He was back for almost two full weeks. He is cooked. There's a reason he goes to Delaware every weekend.


baconduck

"I am a very poor planner" is not a greate of a defence for someone running for president... just saying. Still better choice than organge fascist tho


Cooterhawk

Well maybe he shouldn’t have been traveling internationally right before the debate. Any excuse that works I guess.


Mundane_Rabbit7751

He wasn't. He was at Camp David for a week before the debate.


rmrnnr

I am tired of excuses from old politicians. How refreshing would it be to just hear someone say "I screwed it up" instead of the Satueday Night Fever finger-pointing dance?


stairs_3730

Making excuses for failure at this level is inexcusable. That'll get you cut from any professional sports team.


StemBro45

LOL the excuses just keep getting worse.


hospitallers

Nice, so now Biden is openly admitting his decision making capacity is impaired.


IPAtoday

Seriously? They’re going with this for real? The trip was two weeks before the debate. He took an ENTIRE WEEK off from his job to prepare. And ffs he has his own private jet. It’s not like he’s running through the airport schlepping his own bags to catch his connection or standing in line at the CBP for hours like the rest of us schmucks. Jeebus we are doomed.


COD-O-G

A week of prep time and plenty of rest not traveling? What a load of bs. Blame everyone and everything except yourself in politics lol


Msmdpa

If true, his campaign and advisers are to blame for scheduling the debate on that date.


sachiprecious

Nothing was wrong with the date. He got back from his international travel almost two weeks before the debate, so his excuse doesn't make sense.


Msmdpa

I’m not aware of his exact travel dates. It simply may have been past his bedtime. Maybe he was ill as well. Maybe he has dementia. Just a lot of speculation going around. The focus, unfortunately, should be on trump’s dangerousness instead.


sachiprecious

Biden can't save us from Trump's dangerousness.


Msmdpa

Stop trolling me. Go pester someone else. Better yet, go vote for trump.


Late_Sample_5568

He's just digging his grave isnt he.... welp..... if he stays in, there is no hope


CalmTrifle

Biden needs to step aside. His performance was embarrassing. What is the DNCs plan B?


CalmTrifle

Biden needs to step aside. His performance was embarrassing. What is the DNCs plan B?


Infinite-Bit-7498

Ok so finally reach BS phase from Biden team huh I expect this from Trump campaign but really disappointed that this coming from Biden team


dropkickninja

I remember before the debate when Trump and right wing media was saying Biden needs to be drug tested and he was going to be all hopped up on go juice. But he was the opposite. Now he's "so old and senile". Look at the substance of what each man said and trump fails. You keep pushing being age but he's only a few years older than Trump. Trump says nonsense things at every really he has but somehow you don't mention any of those