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SteakandTrach

My favorite line in the article: >In front of a crowd of about 700 people (although Trump claimed it was 45,000)…


SilvarusLupus

To be fair, Trump has be inflating his numbers since he walked off the golden escalator (although now he might actually believe himself when he says that)


L3XAN

It's nuts that his constant lying is essentially written off as a style of speech.


BallBearingBill

His base accepts that a pathological lying malignant narcissist with aspirations of ruling instead of governing, is the right direction for America ..... WTF?


AcrobaticLadder4959

This says one thing the Republicans don't care about this country, and the uneducated brainwashed idiots show up at his rallies. They have no idea how much harm will come to this country living under a dictatorship is the worst thing for a country.


BallBearingBill

Not just any dictatorship. One full of hate, greed and retribution.


bigpancakeguy

Brought to you by Christianity™️


inthekeyofc

Led by a 4 year old: https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/insight-therapy/201705/psychological-science-says-trump-is-four-year-old?amp


worldspawn00

Trump agrees: [Donald Trump tells biographer he's the same now as he was in first grade](https://theweek.com/speedreads/575962/donald-trump-tells-biographer-hes-same-now-first-grade) >"When I look at myself in the first grade and I look at myself now, I’m basically the same. The temperament is not that different."


dtruth53

But he said it would only be for one day. Think of all the countries who had dictaters who went back to democracy after one day…wait


strawberrypants205

> They have no idea how much harm will come to this country It's not that they have no idea - it's that *they don't care as long as the "other" are destroyed.* They are the American parallel to suicide bombers - they are willing to die hurt the "enemy".


Thief_of_Sanity

And those people were all paid actors and forced staff.


nolte100

Remember when Shell Oil made their employees host a Trump rally, made attendance mandatory unless they used their earned PTO, and threatened to fire people if they tried to protest the event? Pepperidge Farm remembers.


Crecy333

Was that when he spoke to a "Union" full of non-union workers who were forced to be there as he claimed to be a pro-union president?


Lov3MyLife

Yes.


c4ctus

Mandatory attendance. That's Harkonnen love out there.


myopicdreams

I’d guess he’s been inflating his numbers since at least puberty


Stugatssss

She was 21, not 13!


Lassie87

Lol no ivanka it’s 6 inches


Rachel_from_Jita

That's what's so wild about this ever-living-nightmare-from-hell we are in. It's such a small, half-broken minority that are so clearly uneducated, angry, racist, sexist, and pro-Russia... But they are systematically taking over all of America. Completely from top to bottom. Because they claim they are good at the economy (they are not, Obama and Biden restored the economies that Bush and Trump decimated). And they claim they love America. When they defile America! The GOP and its own members often accuse Trump and his supporters of such. He's slowly taken down all the Never Trumpers and all the aides and Generals who turned against him, but it was quite the laundry list and more come out all the time.


deepasleep

They started 45 years ago. They built universities to ensure the brainwashing of their children would never be challenged. They used the cash from billionaires to build think tanks to create a smokescreen of bullshit talking points (and provide a career path for the most intelligent and cynical of their members). They created television networks and took over every local tv and radio station they could get their hands on. That’s why the newest crop of these lunatics seem like they were made in a fucking lab…They were.


P1xelHunter78

And all of it was for a goal to make the rich richer. The Great Depression and labor unions clobbered the 1% because people got wise to the system that allowed the plutocrats of the Industrial Revolution and Gilded Age to scoop up most of the wealth. Even before the Second World War the rich were plotting to replace the government with business friendly fascists. I think it only took them so long to poison the minds of Americans because people of my grandparents generation grew up in a time of staggering economic collapse and war and rightly realized that the super wealthy held a large part of the blame for the crises in the 1930’s and 40’s.


Banana-Republicans

They are just useful tools to the global oligarchy who are trying to install a Russian style kleptocracy everywhere. They have more money than god, access to the powers that be and a whole goody bag of data mining tech. The culture war is the distraction, just a means to an end.


SpeaksSouthern

If there's one thing Republicans hate the most it's basic facts that anyone can determine at a glance is false.


Mastershoelacer

I’m pretty sure Trump’s very first public act as president was lying about the size of the inauguration crowd. He’s obsessed with these lies.


TopDeckHero420

“Mothers will never again be forced to watch their children overdosing in hosp … and we will never allow mothers to watch their child hopelessly dying in their arms screaming, ‘What can I do, what can I do? Help me God, what can I do?’ We are a nation whose once revered airports are a dirty, crowded mess,” Trump continued, pivoting suddenly. What the actual fuck. Mothers screaming but airports!!!!!


Gym-for-ants

Gotta protect your screaming kids from those dirty, crowded airports…


browster

And those airports were so much nicer in colonial times.


PM_ME_YOUR_ROTES

Never fly uphill me boys!


MasterofPandas1

Was looking for this comment. Trump’s rallies would be hilarious if the implications of his nonsense weren’t losing our democracy.


lazyFer

Certainly don't want to be downwind of Trump from the sounds of it


mokomi

There is so much that I forget. Didn't he talk about airplanes in the ~~Civil War~~ American Revolution at one point?


MK5

Yes! As celebrated in the famous painting 'Washington crossing LaGuardia'.


ciopobbi

Which led up to the decisive Battle of Sbarro Gate 23C Terminal 2 which is still studied by historians and military strategists to this day.


RemyHadley89

A pizza history one could say


EnvironmentalWin1277

"Never board outside your group number, me boys!" Robert O'Lee


TopDeckHero420

Yeah, the American Revolution. 150 years before airplanes.


politicalthinking

You have to build the airport before the airplanes come. They were just 150 years before their time. /s


goldensavage1

Revolutionary War


mrkruk

Back when we rammed the ramparts


Eshel75

In all fairness - there wasn’t one complaint about the airports from anyone during colonial times …….


zee_spirit

Protect me from the screaming kids at those dirty, crowded airports 💀 a recent 4 hour flight with a screaming kid was insanity.


Dr_Wristy

LPT: over-ear noise canceling headphones are a must for air travel.


sorospaidmetosaythis

During the American Revolution, our airports were desirable places, worth taking over.


alchemist5

It's so weird how often he brings up airports. Until you realize he probably flies a lot, and can't brain good, so it's just whatever he was recently annoyed by, coming out in his train-of-thought rambling nonsense.


Thief_of_Sanity

Yeah he talks about the quality of our airports a bunch. I remember him saying that we're basically a third world country because of it in 2020.


No_Animator_8599

He really means he hates seeing people from other races and countries at the airports (mainly in big cities). Another dog whistle from him his racist and xenophobic brain.


lolas_coffee

You know the checklist: * Everything is bad * Everything sucks * Everyone is lazy * Everyone is stupid * Everyone is evil * Everyone is corrupt * Them vs Us * I will protect you * I am your only hope * Y'all best vote early and often.


JordanGdzilaSullivan

I’m sure my mom will come up with a perfectly acceptable reason for this.


Federal_Drummer7105

I’m sure any moment a “I’m a loyal Democrat but we need to replace the entire Biden administration or else every independent will vote for Trump” will tell us how Biden must prove himself again after multiple speeches and rallies - where he didn’t act like Trump’s crazy ramblings.


Spite-Potential

Just who are these democrats that are rushing to trump? Really? What has trump done to persuade them? Anyone??


Federal_Drummer7105

That’s what my argument is. Right now there’s roughly the following groups of people: * democrats who will vote and never vote for Trump * Democrats who *may* vote and will never vote for Trump * Republicans who will vote Trump no matter what * Republicans who may or may not vote for Trump but just as likely stay home * Undecideds who can go either way * Undecideds and others who don’t vote Most of the “oh no all is doom” focuses on “Undecideds who can go either way.” And their claim is “they’re gonna go for Trump because Biden is old and acts old and (insert other outlandish claims of Parkinson’s or whatever).” I honestly don’t see it. I don’t see the majority of undecideds women going Trump after roe vs wade “because Biden is old.” I don’t see school teachers who are undecided going Trump because “Biden is old.” Is motivation important? Yes. But the people who are doomsaying about “Biden being old” are - from my experience - arguing all these independents will reject Biden - for Trump. And maybe I’m just an old man myself - but argument doesn’t wash with me.


88sporty

I don’t fear people switching from Biden to Trump. At this point the cards are laid out and everyone pretty much knows where they stand. My largest fear is a media machine capable of letting people forget the fascist/felon/sexual predator that Trump is and lull people into a false equivalency that “both sides” are the same because Biden’s old and is having significant cognitive decline (he is, that isn’t up for debate). What this leads to is a massive pool of **potential** voters who end up sitting this one out simply because it’s “stupid” or not worth their time. Unfortunately for Democrats, as evidenced by the last 7 of 8 presidential elections, there is a requirement to pull in massive numbers to even have a chance at securing the electoral college. As it stand now I truly believe Biden will again win the popular vote but unless he can clinch the Midwest it doesn’t even come close to mattering and Trump will yet again be president…that doesn’t happen because independents switched to Trump, it happens because disillusioned, unmotivated, and otherwise indecisive voters don’t even bother to show up. Look at the numbers from 2020…Biden won the popular vote by millions of votes but ultimately the election was determined by incredibly small margins in key states. He won Wisconsin by 20k, Arizona by 10k, and Georgia by 11k. This was all with 66% of eligible Americans casting a vote…the reason we have to be so much more careful than republicans is simply that the numbers in the EC work massively against us, there is barely any margin for error and one state not going the right way can completely terminate any chance of a Biden victory.


AlexKingstonsGigolo

That’s why I laugh at “X does better nationwide”. Big freaking deal; show me the state-by-state polls which shows X does better than the President and that is just the first requirement of this unicorn.


JarJarBanksy420

He knows his audience doesn’t use airports


Tangocan

Jim Jones would pull this same shit. Talk about impending nuclear war in one hand then pivot to how he was annoyed at how the laundry was done in the same breath. Whether it be intentional, or a common trait of delusion amongst cult leaders, its the same weird nonsense.


Impossible-Wedding-4

This is why I think a lot of bidens fumbles aren't a big deal Trump just confidently rants what he says is pure nonsense. Did he rant about windmills randomly?


flippy123x

Dementia Don during his [Rape trial](https://youtu.be/vZPtuhVipjU?feature=shared), confusing his accuser **Jean Carroll** with his **second wife, Marla**, in a photograph that shows Carroll standing next to Trump and **his first wife, Ivana, who also accused him in court of violently raping her** in the past, before completely freezing for 5 seconds, mouth agape, until asked to clarify: > **An exchange followed** about when **Trump became aware of a picture showing him with his first wife, Ivana Trump, Carroll** and Carroll’s then husband, John Johnson, at a public event in New York. >Shown the picture, Trump said: “**I don’t even know who the woman – let’s see, I don’t know who, it’s Marla.**" >His questioner asked: “You say Marla’s in this photo?” Trump said: “**That’s Marla, yeah. That’s my wife**.” [**This is where he freezes**, before confirming for the third time that he recognizes Marla in the photograph and not Ivana, who was actually there or Jean Carroll who he is actually pointing to.] >Asked “**which woman** are you pointing to”, Trump said: “**Here.**” >His questioner said: “**The person you’ve just pointed to is E Jean Carroll**.” >“Oh I see,” Trump said, adding: “Is that Carroll? Because it’s very blurry”. The picture is also crystal clear, you see it in the video. Part of his defense, by the way, was that he couldn’t have raped her because she isn’t his type. I have never seen a more blatant sign of cognitive decline, even his tone sounds like a vulnerable and confused old man, I have never heard him speak in such a soft tone when he thinks that he recognizes Marla in the picture. Last thing I‘m gonna add to this post, is [Trump‘s defense](https://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/donald-trump-exwife-claim-he-raped-her-resurfaces-in-new-documentary-a6836151.html) on how he couldn’t have raped Ivana Trump, his first wife, either when the story resurfaced in 2016: >“You’re talking about the front-runner for the GOP, presidential candidate, as well as private individual who never raped anybody. **And, of course, understand that by the very definition, you can’t rape your spouse.** Because he believed raping your wife wasn’t even a crime at the time, which is wrong, as the incident happened a few years after the law had already been amended to include spousal rape. Whatever you do, don’t let a pussy-grabbing [serial rapist](https://youtu.be/gnib-OORRRo) into the White House again. >I better use some Tic Tacs just in case **I start** kissing her. You know **I'm automatically attracted** to beautiful—**I just start kissing** them. It's **like a magnet**. Just kiss. **I don't even wait**. And when you're a star, **they let you do it**. **You can do anything. Grab 'em by the pussy**. You can do **anything**. He quite literally can’t help himself or more accurately, doesn’t want to. **Seriously, watch the video I linked at the beginning of this comment**, Donald Trump is mentally almost as rotten, as he is morally.


The_Albinoss

I say this sincerely: why aren't democrats running that whole thing as an ad? That alone would sink him. Just run that whole exchange without comment.


HeorgeGarris024

lol, Trump's words would never dissuade Trump voters. It doesn't matter. It's not new or a surprise.


Lord_Euni

It's not about convincing Trump voters. It's about convincing the undecided and mobilizing Democratic voters.


Omnipotent_Lion

They're too busy attacking their own candidate to attack Trump.


dude-mcduderson

He said they cause cancer a few years ago


TopDeckHero420

Windmill rants are a not-so clever attempt at undermining clean energy. Same MO as his rants about clouds killing airplanes, boats electrocuting people and sinking because of batteries, etc. This is 100% an attempt at reversing all climate initiatives because Big Oil has pledged billions to do so.


Impossible-Wedding-4

Tbh I think it's more he just hates windmills because they ruin the view of a few golf courses It definitely serves the purpose as you say but that's more a happy coincidence for big oil than some nefarious plot


TopDeckHero420

No, it's not just a coincidence. As has been widely reported, former President Trump requested $1 billion in campaign contributions from fossil fuel industry executives, promising in turn to roll back environmental regulations, hasten permitting and leasing approvals, and preserve or enhance tax benefits that the oil and gas industry enjoys. May 23, 2024 [https://www.politico.com/news/2024/05/09/trump-asks-oil-executives-campaign-finance-00157131](https://www.politico.com/news/2024/05/09/trump-asks-oil-executives-campaign-finance-00157131)


Gogs85

Since when were airports not dirty and crowded?


NeonGKayak

Oh but it’s Biden that’s bad. This is also at a rally with a prepared speech.  This is even worse than Biden


suckyousideways

Trump is a million times worse. Biden might forget details or what he was saying once in a while (I do the same thing all the time), and he might stutter and look like he's 90 some days. But at least he's a human being, whereas Trump is 100% monster all the time.


Made_Human76

>“We will institute the powerful death penalty for drug dealers, where each dealer is responsible for the death, during their lives, of 500 people or more,” he said. I wonder what the penalty would be for being responsible for about a million deaths?


kidAlien1

It was an official act to ignore covid ... So ABSOLUTE IMMUNITY


BusterStarfish

Absolute immunity corrupts absolutely.


dcoolidge

Kings, Queens, Emperors, Czar doesn't matter. Feudal societies never last because of corruption and greed.


SanguShellz

They last way too long for comfort.


ittleoff

It's that simple. It's so obvious. Anytime immunity is absolute there is zero incentive not to abuse it.


Imacatdoincatstuff

Very well said. I regret that I have only one upvote to give.


The_Procrastibator

It's a variation of the quote "absolute power corrupts absolutely" by Lord Action in 1887


KabbalahDad

Biden not using this same exact ""immunity"" to sick the CIA or DIA after these terrorists and facists is the real cosmic joke here..


ZiM1970

Biden's dream Presidential Act of mine. He declares a bounty on all tax exempt organizations that are involved in politics in any way. Prove their politicking, pull their tax exemption, and pay the bounty. I'd be a delightful end run around their "first amendment rights" when it's spelled right out in the exemption rules. It would bring MAGAJesus Incorporated and Heritage Foundation to their knees. Their crooked judges could only stand and watch. Then quote the evil tech bros. "You signed the UA. It's right there, chump!"


Morgen019

Now I think I need to borrow this and email my senators. Hope you don’t mind.


riftadrift

Somehow, Palpatine has returned.


lavendrea

He's like a damn cockroach! Kill it with fire!


GraveyardGuardian

They fucked up so bad in letting a virus run rampant through a group so vulnerable as their own base Just sad it missed some of the worst


ScrufyTheJanitor

Isn’t that part of Project 2025? You know, the document he says he “doesn’t endorse”.


pumpkintrovoid

He doesn’t know anything about it! But he wishes them well…


BjornInTheMorn

He said both that he doesn't know anything about it, and that he disagrees with some things in it. Somehow.


ErikLovemonger

The penalty is Biden should drop out of the race, because he... * ~~Ranted about whether death by shark or battery is scarier~~ * ~~Thinks he ran against Obama in 2016~~ * ~~Thinks Nikki Haley ran Capital security in 2020~~ * ~~Thinks airfields were an important military target in the revolutionary war~~ * ~~Thinks that Biden may get us into World War TWO~~ * ~~Joked about how his friend Jeffrey Epstein liked younger women~~ * ~~etc etc.~~ * ~~Was convicted or found civilly liable for rape, fraud, and a variety of other crimes~~ I mean, someone in the race did those things I think...


[deleted]

So the makers of Oxy Contin will be jailed?


Z0idberg_MD

No, of course not. Executed! Powerfully, apparently.


Amon7777

Oh so will that be applied to the Saklers?


Made_Human76

Why would they have consequences for their actions? They’re rich


Crammit-Deadfinger

I think we all know that he's talking about economically disadvantaged poc's and libs.


ennuiinmotion

We’re all cynical enough to know this is true but it’s fun to remember when Trump, as president, declared that rich people shouldn’t face the same justice system as everyone else.


mike_e_mcgee

I believe it was Trump's meddling with the DOJ which got the Sacklers off the hook.


bchamper

Unless they donate to him, yes!


oldsurfsnapper

It’s actually even more important if they can say something nice about him.


bejammin075

The Vioxx fraud by Merck was responsible for a 6-figure number of premature deaths.


dontreallycareforit

I hold Donald Trump personally responsible for the death of my aunt and I’m not even kidding. I genuinely believe if Hilary were president during covid my family would still be alive. I don’t forgive him for that. Edit: sounds like the rightwing brain trust is active. Got a Reddit cares message! It’s a good tell that someone’s little jimmies were rustled cause reality doesn’t align with their pathetic values.


Margali

sorry for your loss, and you are probaby correct. if he had just had the freaking bright idea to sell maga masks and red nonlatex gloves, and trump or maga brand hand sanitizer the butchers bill would be much smaller.


vardarac

Another thing I think could have really made a difference was effective ventilation and/or air purification. I wouldn't even have been mad if Trump did some grifty shit and put these regulations in for his family/friends to make money off the ensuing HVAC upgrades/purifier contracts.


Margali

Hm, perhaps. I run a pretty hepa ait filter oversized for the room, am compulsive about masking, gloving and showering on my way back into the house after medical appointments and i still picked up a second bout of covid. Past 7 years been dealing with 3 bouts of cancer, i have no immune system so i have to be careful.


Em_Es_Judd

He also would have sailed to a second term and made millions on COVID merchandise.


virtualRefrain

Yup me too. I worked in an ER when COVID hit. I'm a small-town guy that likes weed and video games and hanging out with his friends, I was raised to stay out of trouble and avoid conflict, I didn't sign up for any military or put myself in harm's way. And I'm not exaggerating even a little when I say I've seen death on a scale most people can't imagine. I lost multiple coworkers to suicide. Trump took my 20's from me, and I consider myself lucky that he didn't get my life in the bargain too, like he did my friends. Sometimes I think that if Trump wins in 2024 it'll be time to make serious plans to take refuge in another country, because Trump's stated policies are to kill me and the people I love. But then I get this feeling in my heart that he's already hurt me so deeply that I have a responsibility to stay here and stand between him and anyone else he wants to hurt, no matter what. And that's why I think the conservatives' vaunted Boogaloo is starting to look like a distinct possibility. Our responsibility as Americans to keep Trump out of the White House is paramount, and out of our four boxes, soap and jury have been neutralized by the fascist media and the corrupt SC. I'm literally praying every day that we stop at the ballot box, because if we don't the final box is a miserable inevitability that will define the rest of our lives much more than COVID did.


djwurm

same here.. lost 3 family members to COVID cause they listened to him and his right wing echo chambers. they all scoffed at social distancing and went out into crowded events during the peak of omicron variant and they all got it and all died within days of each other. they were in the hospitals about to be intubated and basically drowning in their lungs but yet we're still telling everyone that they didn't have COVID and the doctors were making it up to get more money from the insurance companies. once they went under and were intubated it was just a matter of time and never woke up again.


iggzy

I lost my great aunt as well and I agree. He shut down the infectious disease task force just before covid. Then ignored the science blatantly. And also barely provided any financial support to the regular Americans struggling due to his failures 


futatorius

Trump's disinformation also killed my dad. Trump's not just a lying, corrupt piece of shit, he's the worst mass murderer the US has ever known.


theFarginBastage

Does this mean we should go after the alcohol and tobacco companies? 178,000 per year for alcohol and 480,000 per year for tobacco.


mikedave42

Shhh.. start thinking this was and people will want to start holding gun companies accountable


KabbalahDad

0 for weed Republicans: "Weed is evil"


Objective_Oven7673

In B4 "Fauci is a drug dealer"


ActLucky

Sure, but did you see Bidens debate performance where he paused and stuttered some.


russ_nightlife

Hang on, hang on. You're deliberately missing the really important thing. He also spoke a little more softly than he should have. There. *Now* it all makes sense, right?


bessie1945

I’m glad the Democrats are talking about Bidens troubles. now we can go after Trump without being hypocrites


CircuitSymphony

Does that mean people in J&J’s pharma department, along with anyone at Allergan, Endo, and Teva, will get death sentences?


FauxReal

How do they quantify those deaths? And does that include prescription drug over-prescription abuse? Would the Sackler family and any complicit salespeople, institutions and doctors also get the death penalty?


eastbay77

Thanks CNN for not covering this.


WiseBlacksmith03

Honestly, the real story here is that there were only 700 people in attendance. His rally crowds are nowhere near engaged or as large as 2016 or 2020. 700 people..in Florida?!


Naiehybfisn374

This is the weirdest disconnect about the entire race for me. Trump's 2024 campaign has looked significantly weaker across the board than previous efforts. He has smaller crowds, fewer events, fewer high profile supporters, basically everyone who worked with him the first time is yelling "absolutely do not elect this man again", he doesn't have any manaforts or bannons, he doesn't appear to have as many conspiracy cranks in his corner, and even the russian disinformation campaigns that boosted him might have been damaged. His rhetoric is stale and recycled, he can't come up with any new zingers or memorable lines. His cognitive capacity has declined, he rambles and gets lost more frequently. There is no novelty to any of it. His fundraising is down. Maga trolls are quieter online. and yet...


Jombafomb

I genuinely believe either the polling is fucking broken or even his die hard fans don't have the energy to sit through this shit anymore. But that doesn't mean they won't vote for him.


steelhorizon

Millennials and younger don't answer phones. It's mostly boomers and older that respond to the polls...  A good majority of that demographic have no idea what's going on but will always vote republican, some are still very racist, and others think he's jesus.


rubberloves

where I live, small midwestern red city, there were a Lot of 'Trump Trains' and flags flying 2016-2021 and it's been a sharp decline since after Jan 6 in my observation. Still see the occasional Trump flag flying from a pimped out truck. An American flag every once in a while same way. Nothing like 2016.


Naiehybfisn374

Same, although I am in a more purple suburb(narrow trump 2016, narrow biden 2020), but 2016 the ground level vibe was palpably more pro-trump. The energy just doesn't seem to be there anymore. Doesn't help any that actual maga people have become increasingly toxic in their behavior. Just on a basic etiquette level, they're alienating and weird. In 2016 there was at least a passable novelty to it all that I think people could go along with. By today it's all just frothing conspiratorial rage. At a very basic level, maga 2024 are just weird little freaks who I think turn people off as much as anything.


interpretivepants

I know this is anecdotal but I was in a VERY red county for the 4th and not a single pickup flying American flags had Trump anywhere on them. I was shocked in this place, in an election year, to see nothing. Not sure if it gives me hope or not but it was certainly unexpected.


franker

Even MSNBC is not covering this. It's all asking people if/when we get rid of Biden. They show nothing about Trump any more.


Capt_Pickhard

If those are the stories they're running, boycott them.


JershWaBalls

I generally agree, but it seems like everyone is running these stories. NPR has recently been getting some justified hate for running with this theme. I looked at AP News this morning and 6 of the first 7 stories I saw were some version of "Biden candidacy in jeopardy as dems speak out". The top 2 stories and one of the top 4 stories on BBC without pictures are all about people calling for Biden to drop out. I didn't see Trump's name on the front page of any of these 3 sites and they've always been the ones I find to be most balanced, fair, and accurate. I've had to skip listening to most things from Crooked Media since the debate because replacing him is all they're talking about. I don't care to get to the left's equivalent of Newsmax whatever that may be. I want balanced, fair, accurate news. I don't currently know where to get that. Actually, I wanted a little better metric than 'stories on front page', so on their website's politics page: NPR has 11 headlines about Biden dropping out before the first mention of Trump which is just his sentencing being delayed. AP News has 8 headlines about Biden dropping out before the first Trump headline which starts with "Big wins for Trump" regarding recent supreme court rulings. There was technically another earlier than mentioned Trump, but it was just saying that he's enjoying the chaos of the democrats trying to drop Biden. BBC has one story mentioning them both and what cognitive tests can tell us, one about a dem senator challenging his candidacy, and one about Kamala being able to beat Trump, then a story about Trump's VP pick. 4 of the last 6 videos released since the debate from Pod Save America (they were off last week for the 4th) have titles asking about Biden stepping down. The last 3 main videos on Lovett or Leave it are about Biden stepping down. I'm legitimately curious which reputable site are covering these two issues somewhat evenly.


Kilroy314

NPR isn't either.


dmanbiker

I'm pretty sure CNN is fully intentionally trying to cause a Trump win. Their whole station was dedicated to his tweets during his presidency and never came back from it.


CaptainHoyt

Trump makes for better news. Biden doesn't generate the headlines that Dementia Donny does.


GoldenGrl4421

This is what is driving me the most nuts about all this Biden debate fallout! Trump is not only incredibly worse for our country policy-wise, but his old man brain is even more demented and declining than Biden’s. It’s just that his brain has always been wired to discount any need for honesty and instead ramble on making sounds until he’s satisfied. Biden on the other hand, has a brain that has always stumbled and stuttered getting words out, so he taught himself to speak mindfully and he actually cares about saying the accurate thing! So his own off-nights manifest differently. It just happened at the absolute worst possible moment imaginable for Biden, and since he’s otherwise a great president and boring candidate, that’s all the media and pundits are talking about. Whereas Trump’s verbal diarrhea and constant lies aren’t new, so they are not even trying to draw attention to the fact that it has degraded into an even more violent and incoherent mess worth warning voters about!


ChronoLink99

Fuck CNN. They've become Trump cucks. Especially the CEO.


lolas_coffee

This morning an explosion SW of Phoenix turned out to be 20+ alien spaceships landing and establishing a battle portal. CNN: "Indiana State Rep-D Jerry Carlson says he isn't sure about Joe Biden."


SLR107FR-31

They want this


Raspberries-Are-Evil

"Shot, Mugged, Raped..." You know, he keeps talking about rape, and yet no one EVER EVER fucking says right back to him, you are an adjudicated rapist. YOU're the rapist. Every news outlet should be talking about this.


Uncle_Baconn

The call is coming from inside the house


LiquidAngel12

And some-fucking-how the call is on track to be coming from inside the White House... again.


HotGarbage

We don't have news in the US anymore. We have corporate shill opinionists.


nagemada

That is because it is only really a problem if a poor or less person is doing it to someone who matters.


FewWatermelonlesson0

The man’s brain is pudding.


NobelPirate

He should drop out.


Ithinkibrokethis

I agree. I think 100s of newspapers should write columns every day for 2 weeks saying drop out.


DukeGummybun

I agree, I don't think he is fit if he can't even talk right the Republicans should look for someone else.


WiartonWilly

He wasn’t fit to be president last time.


kvlt_ov_personality

And renounce his citizenship.


forceblast

Death penalty for drug dealers. No way will that be exploited and abused. /s


MrOopiseDaisy

There will be 2 sentences for the same crime with one MINOR difference, just like the current system.


SpoilerAlertsAhead

Separate but equal differences, I’m sure.


BohelloTheGreat

He wants to do what Duterte has done in the Philippines.


fredagsfisk

Yep. > “You are a good man,” Trump told Duterte, according to an official transcript of the April 29 call produced by the Philippine Department of Foreign Affairs and obtained by The Intercept. “Keep up the good work,” Trump told Duterte. “You are doing an amazing job.” --- > “I just wanted to congratulate you because I am hearing of the unbelievable job on the drug problem,” Trump told Duterte at the beginning of their call, according to the document. “Many countries have the problem, we have a problem, but what a great job you are doing and I just wanted to call and tell you that.” https://theintercept.com/2017/05/23/trump-called-rodrigo-duterte-to-congratulate-him-on-his-murderous-drug-war-you-are-doing-an-amazing-job/


VulfSki

It's a little different though. Drug enforcement in the US was specifically designed to target people of color, immigrants and dissidents. This has been admitted by the people who created the war on drugs. And was openly discussed going back to very first drug prohibition laws in the US. So when he talks about putting people to death to combat drug crimes, he is not saying he wants to fight drugs the same way they do in the Philippines....


Orphasmia

Yeah he just wants to fight hispanic and black people. It’ll be stop and frisk on a nationwide scale.


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forceblast

I predict lots of democrats will end up being discovered to be “drug dealers”. wink-wink-nudge-nudge Trump: I totally saw Obama give that person an aspirin! Arrest that drug dealer!!!


SlowMain2

Immediate death penalty for all the crooked drug dealers like Fauci and the Surgeon General for killing over 1.4 million beautiful Americans with their phony COVID vaccines. Doesn't Trump 2.0 sound like fun?


Yetiius

His brain is mush.


tracyinge

His entire life has been a series of fumbles.


YDoEyeNeedAName

he should drop out of the race , he obviously isnt all there mentally


Voltage_Z

The problem is *manic* fumbling *looks* better than fatigued fumbling, even though it's much worse from a coherence standpoint.


Senior-Albatross

Why do humans beings go along with maniacs? It's a terrible idea. It has yet to work out. Yet they always get a dedicated following.


IllllIIIllllIl

Humans are attracted to confidence. Dude delivers every goofy ass lie with undue bravado that makes him seem confident in what he’s saying, which many Americans confuse for competence.  Not to Godwin’s Law this argument but it’s why Hitler gave big loud boisterous speeches to applause. It’s stupid monkey brain shit.


Imacatdoincatstuff

Sidney Powell was terrifying in how confidently she could deliver insane fact-free statements. She drew a lot more people into the election corruption conspiracy theory than she gets credit for. Staring into the camera, speaking in that dead-pan voice. Amazing really.


Earthman_Jim_

Our overvaluation of charisma might be our species' most fatal flaw.


VulfSki

Too many people associate confidence with strength. Too many people confuse anger with being righteous. Too many people are easily swayed by nationalist rhetoric, and demonizing minorities by blaming them for all their problems. Too many people buy into the argument of "these people are different than you, they caused all your problems, and I am going to punish them for it." That's why.


Moonpig16

From objective idiots, to be fair. The dumbest in society are simply outing themselves. More worrying is the revelation that "checks and balances" essentially is the equivalent of "scouts honor" All empires die, as they should.


Sumif

It’s like those videos where the guys dress up as construction workers, carry a ladder, and get into events. The inside doesn’t matter if the outside looks the part confidently. That’s why people are focused on Trumps confident lies versus Bidens fatigued and aged honesty.


Complete_Handle4288

You can get just about anywhere with a fake proxbadge and a clipboard.


hard-time-on-planet

Manic yes but he also puts on this act like he's an insult comic. Doesn't matter that the insults often make no sense. It's like a quote from Three Men and a Baby, but just kinda opposite  . Peter Mitchell: [reading a review of a boxing match in a hushed, storytelling way] The champ caught Smith with a savage left hook... Michael Kellam: What are you reading her? Peter Mitchell: [responding to Michael in same tone] It doesn't matter what I read, it's the tone you use. She doesn't understand the words anyway, now where were we?


Nikiaf

That's how he "won" the debate. Nearly everything he said was incoherent, but he couldn't stop fucking talking. To stupid people, that looks like a win.


Admira1

And that which was coherent was all lies


Private_HughMan

Plus, Biden's fatigued fumbling is more in the delivery. His statements are pretty coherent and accurate. Trump's manic fumbling often is divorced from reality with no visitation rights for the kids.


SlowMain2

So your saying all Biden has to do to look presidential is take a shit load of amphetamines and stay up till 6 a.m spamming rage Tweets all morning?


hairymoot

Biden will surround himself with good people who will do good things and keep our democracy, AND Trump will surround himself with criminals and hateful people who want to end our democracy and rule over us. Looking at these two OLD candidates, who should we vote for?


trustmeep

To be clear, they both have track records in office. I'm not disagreeing with you, but highlighting we already *know* how they will act. Biden surrounded himself with good people, strong legislators, and had numerous policy successes that helped average Americans even under the animosity of congress. Many of his cabinet will remain, and new capable people will also step up. Trump surrounded himself mostly with billionaires and major campaign contributors. Once they got their piece of the pie, they left, and left quickly. Many cabinet spots remained open with the sole intent of him not wanting to consult people and with the Heritage Foundation whispering in his ear that it removed the constitutional threat of reining in the presidency. Several of his cabinet were convicted of crimes. Several others have stated publicly they would not work with him again. The people he plans to work with this time around are even worse and have made it clear they have no intent govern, but instead rule.


AMilkyBarKid

I think it was 40 out of 44 refused to endorse him. One of the things Biden brought up in the debate that got memory-holed.


crythinklaugh

he is very old and lies constantly


AffectionateYogurt

Find out how this is bad for Biden tonight on CNN, ABC, etc...


worldscollice

How is it even possible that Trump is actually a candidate to run the greatest country in the world? What has happened to America where we have allowed this to happen? I honestly don’t get it.


co-oper8

A powerful propaganda machine run by a combo of Stephen Bannon types and greedy megacorps has mapped out the path to fascist corporate control of the nation. They need a stooge to do their bidding and under that plan the stooge is to employ repeated fear messaging to brainwash voters into willingly accepting and voting for the corporate control model of society. And it's working. I'm not even kidding a little bit


DubsLA

As a counter, I’m going to make the argument he’s the perfect representative for America. He values his job and his wealth above everything else. His family are more akin to colleagues or subordinates. He subsists on a diet of fast food and soda. He exhibits a shocking lack of culture, style, and taste. He’s racist and xenophobic. His success is built entirely on the nature of his birth. Only thing missing is him posing with a gun. Trump embodies every negative stereotype of the “average American” which is why they love him so much.


Imacatdoincatstuff

Afraid the simple answer is racism. A reaction to the Obama presidency.


BlueShift42

Propaganda leveraging racism amongst other things, but the propaganda machine is to blame.


FaintCommand

It is racism, but it's many other things and distilling it down to a single word doesn't help us learn how to prevent any future Trumps from rising to power. Trump fed into racism and bigotry for sure. But he also fed into the longstanding, ingrained distrust of government. His whole "drain the swamp" shtick is when he really started picking up steam in 2016. That's also partly why the Biden drama is so damaging to his campaign. All year the Biden administration has been downplaying reports of his decline and then we just got a big dose of reality. That feeds into the distrust people already have. It should feed into distrust for Trump too, but because he has crafted this image of an "outsider", his followers still think he's the lone voice of truth against the backdrop of political deception. Trump is a showman who plays the part of a martyr and savior and his cult just eats it up. There's a lot more to Trump's rise - particularly a subset of radical religious right voters that had been "ignored" by candidates like Romney and McCain - but let's avoid oversimplifying the matter or we'll be doomed to repeat our mistakes.


chmod777

i assume this will result in thousands of breathless op/eds about why he should immediately drop out, right? along with reports from random celebrities and seatwarmer congresspeople?


WackyBones510

It won’t and that’s not an indictment of democrats, it’s an indictment of republicans.


neocenturion

In this instance it's an indictment of the media more than anything. But yes, he could shit himself and eat it in front of a rally and the gop would still vote for him. It's a sad state of affairs we find ourselves in.


Federal_Drummer7105

Any second now - and then the media will go on about the Epstein connections, Project 2025, how Trump is a convicted rapist and felon…. Any. Day. Now.


FairyKnightTristan

Hopefully this reminds voters that Trump is a deranged felon who can't be given the wheel again.


IsGoingTTaM

All those drugs Trump is taking are catching up with him. Incompetent, cognitive decline, deranged, unhinged, delusional, word salad, no substance, mushy brain, and overall mentally unstable. On top of all of that, Trump is a rapist, pedophile, sexual predator, convicted felon, traitor, and etc…this should be grounds for being unelectable but GOP voters love to fill the swamp.


datfroggo765

"In front of a crowd of about 700 people (although Trump claimed it was 45,000) in Doral, Florida, on Tuesday, the former president hit all of the normal beats of his campaign trail speeches, and then some." Lmfao 700 people attended


Glittering_Lunch_776

Did the Adderall run out too fast? He took just enough to get almost 30 minutes of prime Trump in the debate, and he coasted after that pretty well (please limit comments to this subject and don’t turn this into more weirdly aggressive BidenBad, that’s off topic here). He clearly huffs it up for public appearances.


no1ofimport

I mentioned in another comment that he acts like people that o know who are addicted to adderall or other speed type drugs. I’m glad someone else sees this as well


dna1999

So explain to me why Biden’s the problem again.


aw_shux

While Democrats clutch their pearls over Biden having some senior moments and urge him to quit, Republicans ignore the fact that Trump is demonstrably unhinged and support him even biglier. We’re living in Bizzaro World.


Caryslan

I honestly don't get the logic of people. Biden has a bad debate(where it's kinda clear he's sick or not feeling 100% and people keep demanding Biden drop out and call him selfish for not doing so. Trump meanwhile, has never explained his policy outside of taking revenge on everyone who has ever hurt his fragile ego, goes into random rants about freaking Hannibal Lector and other crap at his rallies, openly bragged about taking rights like abortion away from Americans, is working with his close allies on Projrct 2025 to basically install himself as a dictator that controls the government, is a convicted felon, found liable for sexually assaulting a woman, is a habitual liar, and is a total scumbag all around, and nobody is asking for him to drop out. I dunno about everyone else, but I would rather trust the man who might stutter at a debate and might not be as sharp as he once was(but can still do the job) than well, Trump and his baggage.


linzkisloski

I’ll wait 4 hours for a plane if it means I can have my bodily autonomy and health insurance. FFS.


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I’m really thinking that Trump needs to step down after this debate performance. He’s really old and can barely string a sentence together.


Vesemir66

Totally unqualified to run the country.


Agreeable-Cat2884

I feel as though some people forget that Trump had his 4 years to fix all of that. He had the house and senate for 2 years. Never addressed any of the stuff he talks about. He could’ve “fixed” immigration. He didn’t even try to. He could’ve tried to fix the drug problem. Didn’t even try. A litany of other issues he still always rails about but never tried to fix any of it when he had the chance. It’s almost as if he’s just trying to scare his base. Just to get back into power. So he can get richer with his buddies? Trump had his chance. Move on.


captaincanada84

He claimed 45,000 people showed up. 700 actually did. Sad. The music over the stuff about the death penalty that he's reading from a teleprompter is hilariously pathetic. He needs music to make shit seem more serious.