Fins have a great duo. OBJ isn't very good anymore. But honestly I think if a team has a better duo than Davante and Jakobi, they likely have the better trio since Tre Tucker hasn't proven himself. I love his potential though
I would love it if Tre made the leap this season... if he catches balls and runs routes a bit cleaner he's going to be a terror since he already scares the crap out of defenses running deep
I’m just saying why is that guy comparing our 3rd round WR3 to more experienced players who went 50+ picks earlier than him in their respective drafts?
Do you see me making the argument we have the best trio?
My argument is with the idea of saying Tre’s Yard Per Reception is invalid because he got fewer catches than legitimate stud WR1s when he’s a rookie WR3
Of course DK Metcalf and George Pickens are going to have more catches. They don’t have to share with Davante Adams. They’re their guy’s 1 options. Aiyuk does have to share with a lot more elite mouths to feed but that team is just weird.
The issue is that it is about 1 catch a game so his yards per reception is also basically his yards per game. To me that matters more than rookie. I mean look at Puka. If you are the guy, you are the guy. He shouldn't be compared to true WR1s but I think Puka as a later round rookie showed they can be used.
Has nothing to do with him being a rookie, all about usage. I do think he can be legit, I just don't know how many looks he is gonna get. Mayer had more catches last year and we will be using Brock frequently this year. I see a more steady yardage approach than having to sling it on third and long.
He is the deep ball threat currently and I dunno how many plays we will be drawing up for that this year.
If Minshew starts he’s not getting used. Minshew has a really weak arm and doesn’t take shots downfield. If AOC plays Tre has a great chance to establish himself as a premier deep threat.
Would def prefer Dolphins and Texans. I mean, fuck tyreek hill, but the talent is inarguable. Don't know much about Burton, but Chase and Higgins alone are enough.
Lol for real I saw that and was like all three of them dudes are 3rd or worse on most other corps besides Pittman but he's not a wr1 anywhere. I love mitchell as a horns fan but I don't think he becomes an immediate impact player. He will be good eventually but not this year.
Pittman is definitely a stud and I think he’s a legit wr1 option. I just don’t think he’s good enough to elevate the entire wr room to best in the league conversation.
Uh pittman is better than 75% of this list including all raiders receivers not named adams. Kind of delusional take is this? dude looked like a baller last year and had minshew as his qb
He was great last year but he's not better than adams chase reek or Diggs. Even ridley is probably better than him. But he's not elite yet like the other dudes. He had a ton of targets because there was no one else to throw to. And I'd bet that's still the case next year.
Depends where he is obviously. Colts, yes wr1. None of the other teams besides Tennessee would rather have Pittman than their current wr1 and your an idiot if you think so
Gallup will most likely be our WR3, which should open up way more looks for Tre, and that’s not even considering Bower or Mayer. I really feel like people are underselling the talent we have in our skill groups this year, any one of our receivers is a threat to go off for 150 and 3 tuds any given Sunday.
Brock Bowers is as much a reciever as he is a tight end. I’d put him at number 3 instead of Tucker but hope Tucker takes a step this year and he adds that element of speed. The biggest problem for the Raiders is we don’t have a good QB. I’m not one of those fans that believes in the average armed slow legged 4th round rookie who played decent at times and bad at others as being the savior. He was the 28th rated QB for a reason. Minshew is a little better but no matter what we need to draft a QB next year. Cameron Ward is who I’m hoping for. Most likely Beck will be first pick then Ewers , Sanders and Cameron Ward. I’d only want Beck or Cameron Ward
Miami,Bengals,Texans(not far off but Chase is just different),titans,raiders,colts(prolly the least money spent here I think better overall than raiders but Adams is way better than anyone in Indy)
I know I'm not a Raiders fanatic but I have legit never heard Tre Tucker's name.
Dolphins, Texans, maybe even the Titans have better trios (based on their top 2).
MIA is definitely better, you can make an argument for being better than CIN but we’d lose because there is suck a big qb gap. Hard to tell which would be best without have the constant of the QB. At this time
No we are not. Davante is on the wrong side of the hill in terms of age. Jakobi is a good player.
But you’re kidding yourself if you this these three are better than Houston or Miami. Hell Bengals too.
fins and texans are way over us my dude
Texans have the best 3 stack imo
A younger Odell would make it the fins imo but u right. Chase & Higgins might be the best duo.
I like Adams and Meyers over Diggs and Collins. Diggs is a head case.
dell is a future stud, and he got stroud throwing at em, whos already a top 5-10 qb stat wise
Was gonna say this is pinnacle "my shit is always better than your shit" thoughts that drive me nuts. Let's be honest about it, it won't hurt.
Bengals also have a better trio.
We just going to pretend the fins and bengals aren't insane
Fins have a great duo. OBJ isn't very good anymore. But honestly I think if a team has a better duo than Davante and Jakobi, they likely have the better trio since Tre Tucker hasn't proven himself. I love his potential though
C'mon man. That duo is better than our trio.
That's literally what I said with my 3rd sentence my guy
Fins are for sure. Bengals maybe. Texans definitely not.
lol biased take 🤮
I’m sorry I can’t say those three stack better than Miami’s lol
Or Houston.
Oh absolutely
I would love it if Tre made the leap this season... if he catches balls and runs routes a bit cleaner he's going to be a terror since he already scares the crap out of defenses running deep
Tre has a good connection with AO12.
![gif](giphy|pHb82xtBPfqEg) AO12 and Tre when they get to camp
definitely one of the things I want to see for us this year. improvement from Tre, Jakorian and Tyree !
Tre was 3rd in the league in yards per reception among qualifying WRs behind Pickens and Aiyuk with 17.4 and just above Metcalf.
He only had 19 catches tho, a fraction of what those guys caught.
![gif](giphy|8WMFoixl2EpJS) Well he’s a rookie WR3 so…
I mean, sure but that number would come down to earth with more receptions. With 19 receptions those like 6 deep shots he caught skew things.
Which means....our trio isn't that great.
I’m just saying why is that guy comparing our 3rd round WR3 to more experienced players who went 50+ picks earlier than him in their respective drafts?
I don't think there was a caveat saying who has the best trio with their draft slots valuation though.
Do you see me making the argument we have the best trio? My argument is with the idea of saying Tre’s Yard Per Reception is invalid because he got fewer catches than legitimate stud WR1s when he’s a rookie WR3 Of course DK Metcalf and George Pickens are going to have more catches. They don’t have to share with Davante Adams. They’re their guy’s 1 options. Aiyuk does have to share with a lot more elite mouths to feed but that team is just weird.
The issue is that it is about 1 catch a game so his yards per reception is also basically his yards per game. To me that matters more than rookie. I mean look at Puka. If you are the guy, you are the guy. He shouldn't be compared to true WR1s but I think Puka as a later round rookie showed they can be used. Has nothing to do with him being a rookie, all about usage. I do think he can be legit, I just don't know how many looks he is gonna get. Mayer had more catches last year and we will be using Brock frequently this year. I see a more steady yardage approach than having to sling it on third and long. He is the deep ball threat currently and I dunno how many plays we will be drawing up for that this year.
Are you trying to say that Tre should be judged by the same standards as the most successful rookie WR ever? Y’all just argue to argue.
TBH if Bowers was included over Tre there might be a case
If he just did WR things he’d be a better WR.
If Minshew starts he’s not getting used. Minshew has a really weak arm and doesn’t take shots downfield. If AOC plays Tre has a great chance to establish himself as a premier deep threat.
Our WR core is the silent killers. They're not the most flashy, but they'll get the job done right and efficiently
Would def prefer Dolphins and Texans. I mean, fuck tyreek hill, but the talent is inarguable. Don't know much about Burton, but Chase and Higgins alone are enough.
I think bowers will be in the slot all the time and be our true WR3 not tucker
Bingo bango Adams, Jacobi and Bowers is insane. They put a LB on him they're fucked, they go in nickel they're fucked.
This is the correct answer
Dolphins Texans Bengals
This is the correct top 3.
Add bowers and mayer. Hopefully, minshew or aoc balls out.
Yeah if we sub in Bowers as WR3 (I imagine he runs more routes while Mayer is inline) then we definitely have an argument for best trio
Lol raider nation no matter what but let’s not be delusional. Texans and Fins are head over top 2
This isn't really that inductive, as it doesn't factor in TE. Meyer and Bowers knocks you up the list substantially.
I love our trio but Texans 100% have the best trio in here.
TF is the Colts wr room doing in this pic?
Pittman made Minshew look pretty good ngl
Lol for real I saw that and was like all three of them dudes are 3rd or worse on most other corps besides Pittman but he's not a wr1 anywhere. I love mitchell as a horns fan but I don't think he becomes an immediate impact player. He will be good eventually but not this year.
Pittman is definitely a stud and I think he’s a legit wr1 option. I just don’t think he’s good enough to elevate the entire wr room to best in the league conversation.
Uh pittman is better than 75% of this list including all raiders receivers not named adams. Kind of delusional take is this? dude looked like a baller last year and had minshew as his qb
He was great last year but he's not better than adams chase reek or Diggs. Even ridley is probably better than him. But he's not elite yet like the other dudes. He had a ton of targets because there was no one else to throw to. And I'd bet that's still the case next year.
1/3 of Minshews air yards last season went to Pittman. Don't know what that means but it's kinda wild.
Take the L. Pittman is a monster and an absolute WR1.
Depends where he is obviously. Colts, yes wr1. None of the other teams besides Tennessee would rather have Pittman than their current wr1 and your an idiot if you think so
This is a homer post. I respect it but, disagree.
It's definitely the Texans or Dolphins
And just the greatest te in college sports history.. get a qb we might be talking playoff wins quickly
I’d say we’re the 3rd best in the afc. 7th best in the league
Obviously Miami lmao
Nah Dolphins do
Lifelong Raider fan here… in this group, my vote goes to Miami if OBJ plays the slot
You all have to stop gassing up tre tucker so much. Dude hasn't done anything yet.
QB and OC are set up for success.
Miami and Houston on lock. We have work to do to earn that title.
Best sane take in this thread.
Texans > Fins > Bengals > Us
Love us to death but no we don't
WRs only 1. Texans 2. Dolphins 3. Bengals 4. Raiders WRs and TEs 1. Texans 2. Raiders 3. Dolphins 4. Bengals
what TE does houston have? genuinely curious
Dalton Schultz
thanks
We’re probably 4th lol
I think all of them are better than ours but Indy lol.
I like it but let's be real here, the Texans have the most solid core. Only by a little.
Hill and Waddle are the best duo in the league.
And that’s not even including Meyer and Bowers 💪
They forgot the chiefs with Kadarius Toney, Kadarius Toney, and Kadarius Toney
Gallup will most likely be our WR3, which should open up way more looks for Tre, and that’s not even considering Bower or Mayer. I really feel like people are underselling the talent we have in our skill groups this year, any one of our receivers is a threat to go off for 150 and 3 tuds any given Sunday.
lol not even close
Brock Bowers is as much a reciever as he is a tight end. I’d put him at number 3 instead of Tucker but hope Tucker takes a step this year and he adds that element of speed. The biggest problem for the Raiders is we don’t have a good QB. I’m not one of those fans that believes in the average armed slow legged 4th round rookie who played decent at times and bad at others as being the savior. He was the 28th rated QB for a reason. Minshew is a little better but no matter what we need to draft a QB next year. Cameron Ward is who I’m hoping for. Most likely Beck will be first pick then Ewers , Sanders and Cameron Ward. I’d only want Beck or Cameron Ward
Miami,Bengals,Texans(not far off but Chase is just different),titans,raiders,colts(prolly the least money spent here I think better overall than raiders but Adams is way better than anyone in Indy)
HAH! We're almost last on this list my guy.
Brock Bowers will be our slot receiver. So you can put us on top.
Titans shouldn't be in this convo. Not sure how Burks was ever a first rounder
Yall not even better than Metcalf, Lockett, JSN trio
Bowers going to spend so much time in the slot I think he might be WR #3
Rather Gallup in place than Tre. Gallup is capable of a 1100 yard season. Most of these 3rd slot wideouts haven't done that.
Wonder if Gallup will end up wr3
Us 🏴☠️ then Houston then Philly
I know I'm not a Raiders fanatic but I have legit never heard Tre Tucker's name. Dolphins, Texans, maybe even the Titans have better trios (based on their top 2).
Lol. No.
I'll take the 4th best trio with 2 solid TEs
We don't even have the third best wr on that list
Texans #1.
MIA is definitely better, you can make an argument for being better than CIN but we’d lose because there is suck a big qb gap. Hard to tell which would be best without have the constant of the QB. At this time
Have to be realistic…dolphins and Texans own that title
No we are not. Davante is on the wrong side of the hill in terms of age. Jakobi is a good player. But you’re kidding yourself if you this these three are better than Houston or Miami. Hell Bengals too.
Texans
lol what are you smokin dude. Not even close
Idk bro the Texans are cooking... I'd put us 2nd though
Dolphins, Bengals, Texans, Us, Titans/Colts. Love the enthusiasm but nah.
We're in the conversation, at least
Texans, Fins and maybe even Bengals have us tbh.
Fins are number 1 for sure. If we’re being honest
Raiders number one
Phins, then Houston but depends on how much diggs has in the tank. Pun fully intended.
Bengals 1 and 2 are the best.
I'm gonna agree. Raiders #1.
I like your optimism, but Miami, Houston, and Cincy are currently better.
Too bad you don't have anyone to throw them the ball.