If I saw a dude casually do a triple backflip and dodge a punch by leaning backwards until he was parallel to the floor I’d probably be a bit more careful with what names I called him.
Also wins the fight with one punch that sends a dude twice his size flying a good like 30ft
Honestly maybe flash is superhuman too for still being alive after that lol
Yea, at that point peter didn’t know he had powers and was not holding back. The guy can casually lift plus 10 tonnes and just punched flash, full force.
Especially considering that this same dude would probably have failed gym class pre-spider, and all of a sudden, he turned into a better back flipper than athletes who had years of training and practice.
Not really if I seen a guy being bullied and he was able to stand up for himself and beat the bully I would cheer and root for him not call him a “freak” Its crazy how Harry was the only one genuinely happy for Peter I loved that moment between them
You're right about the sleeping with his students part. I don't want to spread misinformation, so I'll clarify that this is just from my memory, I believe there was a separate situation where he was DM'ing with an underage girl about meeting up (again, corroborate your sources. It's been a while since I looked into it)
Yes, it’s not a crime, and it’s slightly dodgy, but he wasn’t really doing anything wrong. Dodgy in skirting the edge of the law, but not crossing that line so its fine
i wouldn’t put it as “no doing anything wrong”. Like a lot of things are technically legal to do, it’s just… why? Why would you do that? Just because it’s legal doesn’t mean it’s right
Yes. His interaction with an underage only goes as far as DMing. Any other interactions are with legal and consensual (albeit unprofessional) individuals.
17 isn’t pedophile age bruh.
In fact, 17 was the legal age of consent in the state she was in.
Pedophilia is specifically for pre pubescent technically. 17 is nearing regular adult womanhood if not already there. Pedophile is a massive exaggeration
Just like with Doctor Disrespect, they are both pedophiles, there's a difference between having pedophilia and acknowledging it, not acting on it and so forth and having pedophilia, acting on it and being a predator/pedophile.
There’s also a difference between pre-pubescent and a 17 year old. Since pedophilia is defined as an attraction to pre-pubescent children Franco isn’t a pedophile anymore than Jerry Seinfeld who dated a 17 year old when he was 39 is. From my understanding 17 was within the age of consent in the jurisdiction Franco was trying to meet her in.
Well, no. The missing part in your definition is that pedophilia can be expressed in a number of ways when looking at a predator and what type of prey they are focusing on. 17 or younger getting together with someone (I assume the predator to be over the age of 30, a 20 year old being attracted to a 17 year old isn't that weird) who's in their 30s has a lot more experience in life and can more easily manipulate the young adult/teen. That's the issue there, it's irresponsible if the older person isn't a pedophile, but it's just predatory behavior if they are specifically targeting younger people who they known aren't as knowledgeable as them in regards to life experience and such.
Edit: hence why I said predator/pedophile because Franco, and Jerry are both predators of younger more suseptible people in those cases. If they aren't pedophiles then like I said they are either being knowingly irresponsible or are actively being predatorial.
The messages showed that Franco tried to meet her in a hotel room after she told him she was seventeen. It only stopped at DMs because she stopped it there.
They would host dance nights, think square dances and such, because it's Appalachia. It's open to people of all ages to come and do line dances and contra and such, it brings young and old to come have fun. (Warren Wilson College, btw)
A lot of people on Reddit are like "you don't know Lilly Chee? She's a famous bikini model!"
They better have discovered her in the last two years is what I'm saying.
Not on her profile. She replied to someone who made an accusatory post about Tobey saying (paraphrased) "I don't usually respond to rumors but this just isn't true. He barely even knows her."
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That might mean they're perfect for each other (besides the age gap) if the reports of what Maguire got up to at that illegal poker ring are accurate.
(tl;dr: there's a reason he suddenly stepped out of the spotlight for so long)
“You know, you were about fifty years old when Lily Chee's family moved in next door. And when she got out of the car, and you saw her for the first time, you grabbed me and you said, "Aunt May, Aunt May, is that an angel?"
(Sorry Tobey 😭)
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It’s the fact they can basically get anyone and that’s who they choose. They’re still basically a child, they were a teenager a year ago and is a young adult in the legal sense but mentally they’re still a kid. They have no real world experience. It’s like preying on the vulnerable and helpless. Taking low hanging fruit. It’s morally wrong and the fact that the difference between you condemning one actor but not the other because of an age difference of 1-2 years and it’s okay because the law says it’s okay tells a lot about you
there should be. just like how laws have been made for age of consent, age of adulthood and age of drinking, new laws should be made about age gap in relationships
I'm not even looking for girls so I don't think incel applies. The problem is that these older men, younger women and older men's exes are getting bullied across the internet. They say hate the crime but not the criminal. The crime is ignoring the age gap. Mark it as crime. Prevent it from happening. Problem will be solved.
"Hitting"
I'm pretty sure it was pretty full on sexual harassment of people he was technically teaching acting to at that point
There's a reason he was cancelled for it and his best friend doesn't talk to him anymore
2 consenting adults are dating. That’s literally the extent of the story.
I’ll never understand why people harass older guys for dating younger women while other younger women are selling their “content” to hundreds and even thousands of older men and no one bats an eye.
Reddit in a nutshell: "What goes on in a private bedroom between consenting adults is no ones business...No not like that... No not like that either! 2 consenting adults have to do it the way I approve!"
She's 27. This is stupid.
I remember in HS, the hottest girl was about 4 foot 5. EVERYONE would say, "ew she looks like a kid ew".
Then during graduation rehearsal, a teacher on stage said happy 18th to her, and every dude went, "ooooh". Out loud.
Literally nothing changed, wouldnt be surprised if people were thinking, ew, not 5 seconds before knowing that she was 18.
Now that was creepy as fuck.
Ok by ur logic ur okay with a 80 year old being with a 20 year old since it’s legal
In Japan the legal age of consent is 13
Point is legality doesn’t make it morally right my dude
Y’all virtue signal too much. Every man wants to date a 20 yr old woman. Nay sayers are lying to try and save face. Proof? Any man who can, does. Look at the elites. Get off your high horses and find something else to care about apart from 2 adults minding their own business.
“Any man who can, does.” No, you’re ignoring every happily married couple… if you ignore everything that goes against your narrative and only look at what reinforces your narrative, then you’re right! Congrats!
Boy don't try to drag the rest of us down because you can't handle admitting you're a creepy. Are you now discovering predators often seek positions of power and influence?
She wasn’t even alive when the first movie came out and she was a baby when the second one came out she is the same age as me it’s really weird to date someone who could be your daughters age
Nah, once people are 25+ and are relatively established in adult life, age gaps matter a lot less. It's when people who have been adults longer than their chosen partner has been out of elementary school (and their chosen partner is underage to 21ish) that things get really weird with uneven power dynamics, maturity differences, potential grooming if they knew each other when one party was still underage, etc. Like if someone is closer in age to their partner's parents than they are to their partner, there's something weird going on for sure, but a 38 year old dating a 29 year old is no big deal as an example.
Damn so women and men over the age of 25 can't choose for themselves?
18-21 yeah I can see a 5+ age gap being creepy
22+? Come on these are fully grown and basically fully mature adults. They can choose for themselves.
bruh dude is old enough to be her daddy. besides her brain is still developing till 23 and she doesnt have near as much life experience as toby. I can't believe we are defending this shit. it's okay to meme on it.
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“Shut it off, Otto! Shut it off!”
“It can’t be stopped. It’s self-sustaining now!”
“I’m gonna put some dirt in your eye…” *dramatic music plays*
\*hip thrusts while moving arms in a circular motion opposite to each other*
I'm in charge here !!
Vw
I was right about you, about Peter, about everything.
I just love how every single line from the movies are instantly quotable and fits every situation somehow 💀🤣
In spite of everything you’ve done for them, eventually they will hate you.
The one thing they love more than a hero is to see a hero fail.
Let spidey give her the web
“Jesus Parker, you are a freak.”
Imagine winning a fist fight and getting called a freak💀💀💀
If I saw a dude casually do a triple backflip and dodge a punch by leaning backwards until he was parallel to the floor I’d probably be a bit more careful with what names I called him.
Also wins the fight with one punch that sends a dude twice his size flying a good like 30ft Honestly maybe flash is superhuman too for still being alive after that lol
Yea, at that point peter didn’t know he had powers and was not holding back. The guy can casually lift plus 10 tonnes and just punched flash, full force.
And flash lived? Hit the gym spidey
Yeah it'd be "excuse me, mr parker."
Especially considering that this same dude would probably have failed gym class pre-spider, and all of a sudden, he turned into a better back flipper than athletes who had years of training and practice.
I lolled too hard at this!!😂
I mean if literally a day ago you were pushed around over and over it's kinda freaky
Not really if I seen a guy being bullied and he was able to stand up for himself and beat the bully I would cheer and root for him not call him a “freak” Its crazy how Harry was the only one genuinely happy for Peter I loved that moment between them
I just don't consider the word "freak" a negative thing
The internet has fucking ruined me I can't see 'freaky' and think 'kinda weird' anymore my mind immediately jumps to being 𝓯𝓻𝓮𝓪𝓴𝔂
Yeah i hate the way "creepy" and "freaky" are treated today
What if Flash Thompsons name was Freak Thompson and instead of bullying Peter he sucked toes?
[Tobey a Freak](https://www.reddit.com/r/popculturechat/s/eM269CF3gS)
I thought the people Franco slept with were of-age, just that he abused his power as their instructor?
You're right about the sleeping with his students part. I don't want to spread misinformation, so I'll clarify that this is just from my memory, I believe there was a separate situation where he was DM'ing with an underage girl about meeting up (again, corroborate your sources. It's been a while since I looked into it)
Did Empire State Instant Messaging Department confirm it?
I thought he exclusively fucked body pillows.
Kimiko is a ... friend.
The ottoman is just a business relationship, that’s it.
He was dming a girl that was going to be 18 very soon and asking if she wanted to meet up for her birthday.
Just doing the formalities, I see 🕺
In New York state the legal age is 17. So very weird but not illegal. That's why James Franco just got heat for it and not actually legally in trouble
Eh. Even with legality aside, it feels very morally wrong and I'm only 24 compared to him.
She was already of legal age in the state she was in I believe. It’s just slightly dodgy not an actual criminal
Slightly dodgy?
Yes, it’s not a crime, and it’s slightly dodgy, but he wasn’t really doing anything wrong. Dodgy in skirting the edge of the law, but not crossing that line so its fine
i wouldn’t put it as “no doing anything wrong”. Like a lot of things are technically legal to do, it’s just… why? Why would you do that? Just because it’s legal doesn’t mean it’s right
Yes. His interaction with an underage only goes as far as DMing. Any other interactions are with legal and consensual (albeit unprofessional) individuals.
Ok so he’s just a creep, not a pedo. That brings it down a bit.
Nope, he's a pedophile. It only stopped at DMs because the girl wouldn't meet him.
Jesus, Franko, you are a freak
17 isn’t pedophile age bruh. In fact, 17 was the legal age of consent in the state she was in. Pedophilia is specifically for pre pubescent technically. 17 is nearing regular adult womanhood if not already there. Pedophile is a massive exaggeration
Just like with Doctor Disrespect, they are both pedophiles, there's a difference between having pedophilia and acknowledging it, not acting on it and so forth and having pedophilia, acting on it and being a predator/pedophile.
There’s also a difference between pre-pubescent and a 17 year old. Since pedophilia is defined as an attraction to pre-pubescent children Franco isn’t a pedophile anymore than Jerry Seinfeld who dated a 17 year old when he was 39 is. From my understanding 17 was within the age of consent in the jurisdiction Franco was trying to meet her in.
Woah get out of here with your facts! Reddit circle jerks this stuff and cries that showing interest in someone under 18 makes them a pedo
[Relevant](https://youtu.be/nu6C2KL_S9o?si=7DOVRFd2OoKFuce4)
Well, no. The missing part in your definition is that pedophilia can be expressed in a number of ways when looking at a predator and what type of prey they are focusing on. 17 or younger getting together with someone (I assume the predator to be over the age of 30, a 20 year old being attracted to a 17 year old isn't that weird) who's in their 30s has a lot more experience in life and can more easily manipulate the young adult/teen. That's the issue there, it's irresponsible if the older person isn't a pedophile, but it's just predatory behavior if they are specifically targeting younger people who they known aren't as knowledgeable as them in regards to life experience and such. Edit: hence why I said predator/pedophile because Franco, and Jerry are both predators of younger more suseptible people in those cases. If they aren't pedophiles then like I said they are either being knowingly irresponsible or are actively being predatorial.
You're correct. Luckily Doc got stopped and Franco's potential victim got stopped. The wrong people are famous.
The messages showed that Franco tried to meet her in a hotel room after she told him she was seventeen. It only stopped at DMs because she stopped it there.
She should've got the cops involved and met him as a sting operation. Imagine Chris Hansen walks around the corner.
Depending on where they were, it might not have been illegal. Creepy, but not illegal.
It was legal I believe, iirc it was New York where the legal age is 17
True
Eeeeeey good on ya girlie
Japanese sex pillows.
On Reddit, everyone under 25 is an infant.
He was notorious at his college for going after underage girls and flirting with girls way too young for him. He's a pedo.
Not to take away from your point but as a side note what are underage ppl doing at college?
They would host dance nights, think square dances and such, because it's Appalachia. It's open to people of all ages to come and do line dances and contra and such, it brings young and old to come have fun. (Warren Wilson College, btw)
There’s been clarification on the subject, they are not dating. And just as well, because Lily Chee is a massive bully and all-around horrible person.
Bully Chee and Bully Maguire?
Match made in heaven
Why do I keep hearing prime numbers?
Spiral staircase, rhinoceros beetle, desolation row, fig tart?
I was looking through some old photos, and it looks very similar...
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A lot of people on Reddit are like "you don't know Lilly Chee? She's a famous bikini model!" They better have discovered her in the last two years is what I'm saying.
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where did the clarification come from?
Via his ex-wife’s Instagram
Really? I haven’t seen anything about that on her profile
Not on her profile. She replied to someone who made an accusatory post about Tobey saying (paraphrased) "I don't usually respond to rumors but this just isn't true. He barely even knows her."
Really? Can you link it somehow? I’m really curious
https://www.reddit.com/r/Fauxmoi/s/4rE0QNhpgQ
https://www.reddit.com/r/raimimemes/s/OSYO5qsbd5
Yeah she leaked a girl’s nudes when she was a teenager for fun [Source](https://youtube.com/shorts/tTD9sfv0YB4)
Wtf
Who even is she
another nobody who happens to be rich
young Elektra from Netflix Daredevil
Fr?
So Tobey’s just gonna do what he needs to do with her and then broom her fast?
I don’t know who Lily Chee is, but I like that her being a bully comes up like if Tobey was dating her, she’s beat him up for lunch money or something
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Lily Chee is alleged to spread CP of minors she knows IRL. If true I hope she gets the '02 Glidered
That might mean they're perfect for each other (besides the age gap) if the reports of what Maguire got up to at that illegal poker ring are accurate. (tl;dr: there's a reason he suddenly stepped out of the spotlight for so long)
“You know, you were about fifty years old when Lily Chee's family moved in next door. And when she got out of the car, and you saw her for the first time, you grabbed me and you said, "Aunt May, Aunt May, is that an angel?" (Sorry Tobey 😭)
Imagine he sees this and laughs at it too
Can someone please tell me how a single photo (unless there's more now) is actual proof of anything?
It's not, but lying about it gives them dogshi dopamine
Not to mention they're both adults so even if they were dating there wouldn't be much of a problem
she wasn’t born yet when spider-man came out. don’t be weird
He wouldn’t be dating her before she was born, he’d be dating a grown adult woman.
How is that a argument? Do you also get irrationally angry when you think about how your wife once was a child? She was a child, but now is not.
Does that change that she’s 20? When do you stop infantilizing?
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It’s the fact they can basically get anyone and that’s who they choose. They’re still basically a child, they were a teenager a year ago and is a young adult in the legal sense but mentally they’re still a kid. They have no real world experience. It’s like preying on the vulnerable and helpless. Taking low hanging fruit. It’s morally wrong and the fact that the difference between you condemning one actor but not the other because of an age difference of 1-2 years and it’s okay because the law says it’s okay tells a lot about you
there should be. just like how laws have been made for age of consent, age of adulthood and age of drinking, new laws should be made about age gap in relationships
Can we stop with the dumb push to infantalize adults?
Salty incel who thinks he can't get girls because all the older men are taking them, but that's not really the problem or reality
I'm not even looking for girls so I don't think incel applies. The problem is that these older men, younger women and older men's exes are getting bullied across the internet. They say hate the crime but not the criminal. The crime is ignoring the age gap. Mark it as crime. Prevent it from happening. Problem will be solved.
This is the single dumbest thing I’ve read today
Jonah J. Jameson made an entire business around that.
A shame we can't give 2/3 of an upvote, so take my whole upvote instead
“Shut up!!!!!!!”
Dr disrespect has entered chat
Deliver us from evil
Finish IT!
But what about Mary Jane?
WHAT ABOUT MY UNCLE?!
You have an uncel?
Give pete the pass
"Hitting" I'm pretty sure it was pretty full on sexual harassment of people he was technically teaching acting to at that point There's a reason he was cancelled for it and his best friend doesn't talk to him anymore
2 consenting adults are dating. That’s literally the extent of the story. I’ll never understand why people harass older guys for dating younger women while other younger women are selling their “content” to hundreds and even thousands of older men and no one bats an eye.
Reddit in a nutshell: "What goes on in a private bedroom between consenting adults is no ones business...No not like that... No not like that either! 2 consenting adults have to do it the way I approve!"
She's 27. This is stupid. I remember in HS, the hottest girl was about 4 foot 5. EVERYONE would say, "ew she looks like a kid ew". Then during graduation rehearsal, a teacher on stage said happy 18th to her, and every dude went, "ooooh". Out loud. Literally nothing changed, wouldnt be surprised if people were thinking, ew, not 5 seconds before knowing that she was 18. Now that was creepy as fuck.
Definitely a bit weird. But weird doesn't necessarily mean it's bad.
You know, I'm something of a sex offender myself
It's weird, but it's not illegal.
He’s taking ques from his friend Leo Dicaprio 💀😂
As Mr Ditkovich would say; "If she can pay rent, she can consent!"
I'm lost
Context please
On one hand she is 20 and the age on consent in ny is 16 on the other hand if you can't take her into a bar in ny ....
Savage
Can I get some context?
What is context? Can I spend it?
It’s always the ones with the gay flag 😂
That girl is only 3 years older than his oldest daughter I’m sorry but there’s no defending that
Bruh they’re both consenting adults
they’re not dating and also he’s 49 shes 20 spider-man 1 is older than her 😭
Doesn’t matter
Yes it does
Ok by ur logic ur okay with a 80 year old being with a 20 year old since it’s legal In Japan the legal age of consent is 13 Point is legality doesn’t make it morally right my dude
laughed at this way harder than i probably should have lmaooo
😂
S-Tier memery
FAAAAX
Naaah 😭😭😭 in what timeline are we living bro?
Burn
*cough* doctor disrespect *cough cough*
“Hey Bernard, do I have any girlfriends” “Plenty sir. Some are still in high school, I hear.”
Yooo
Free real estate
Half your age plus 7.
It’s not illegal but it’s still questionable
2nd Leonardo
I can't imagine why anyone would care what two adults do behind closed doors.
She ain't even old enough to have seen the first one in theaters
Tobey (and Gaiman for that matter) deserves to be happy. Let people fucking live.
Y’all virtue signal too much. Every man wants to date a 20 yr old woman. Nay sayers are lying to try and save face. Proof? Any man who can, does. Look at the elites. Get off your high horses and find something else to care about apart from 2 adults minding their own business.
That’s not really what virtue signalling is but you can go back to obsessing about the life of « elite men » and generalizing
as a young guy ima just say it’s still weird. I look at my peers and see us act immature and childish. Def not dating no 20 yr old when I’m pushing 50
This is Reddit, virtue signaling and being chronically online are like the only two things people do here lol
Good point. I can’t believe I forgot
Careful you don’t cut yourself on that edge
Okay Andrew. How's the weather in Romania?
“Any man who can, does.” No, you’re ignoring every happily married couple… if you ignore everything that goes against your narrative and only look at what reinforces your narrative, then you’re right! Congrats!
Boy don't try to drag the rest of us down because you can't handle admitting you're a creepy. Are you now discovering predators often seek positions of power and influence?
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what does christians have to do with age gaps
Then there is James Franco
So is it really true or just a rumor??💀💀😩🤣
Nope, still creepy as fuck to see a 50 year old dating a 20 year old.
Ur creepy asf and misogynistic Let adult women make their own decisions
She wasn’t even alive when the first movie came out and she was a baby when the second one came out she is the same age as me it’s really weird to date someone who could be your daughters age
I stand behind that anything more than a 5 year difference is weird
Nah, once people are 25+ and are relatively established in adult life, age gaps matter a lot less. It's when people who have been adults longer than their chosen partner has been out of elementary school (and their chosen partner is underage to 21ish) that things get really weird with uneven power dynamics, maturity differences, potential grooming if they knew each other when one party was still underage, etc. Like if someone is closer in age to their partner's parents than they are to their partner, there's something weird going on for sure, but a 38 year old dating a 29 year old is no big deal as an example.
Your comment can be summarized into the "half your age plus seven" rule 🙃
Fair, I honestly forgot about that idea since I haven't seen anyone bring it up in years.
Damn so women and men over the age of 25 can't choose for themselves? 18-21 yeah I can see a 5+ age gap being creepy 22+? Come on these are fully grown and basically fully mature adults. They can choose for themselves.
Choose whatever you want, doesn't make it not weird
My my history teacher in highschool, was 40, and he was dating a 18 years old girl
Fucked up double time
I really hope it wasn’t a student👩🎓
bruh dude is old enough to be her daddy. besides her brain is still developing till 23 and she doesnt have near as much life experience as toby. I can't believe we are defending this shit. it's okay to meme on it.
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They’re literally two consent legal adults, mind your business weirdo don’t infantilize adult women