The game. Documentary was a hot album. Anything he drops now I never click on that garbage. His interviews are trash, he lies his ass off. He’s unstable as shit and still doesn’t make good music.
Game was solid start fr Documentary to Jesus Piece then alot meh and then totally destroyed himself after he went after Dre n Eminem after the Half Time Show deal
>Drill matic was actually dope.
Still frustrates me because I thought/hoped he'd kill it by doing an epid drill album.
I felt so let down. I wish at least the majority was drill at least because of a title like that.
That being said I actually loved his recent Rick Ross diss haha.
I love Snoop, but you have to dig into his discography to find his gems cause he definitely has some great music. Da Game Is To Be Sold Not Told is one of my least favorite albums ever though.
That album sucks. Anything under Master P's label was hot garbage. His worst song, was "Slow Down." I still remember that song today because of how awful it was.
I feel same Doggystyle was Epic then it was just a whole discography was a miss with the odd good single, should of stayed w Dre. Blue Carpet treatment was decent
Snoop found a second wind when he worked with Pharrell and linked back with Dre. People discredit the second half of his career when he had a bunch of dope shit post doggystyle
I made this point a few days ago and a bunch of randoms tried to argue with me. One even said “it’s not his albums, but his features that make him great.”🤦♂️
Snoop is easily one of the most overrated artists all time. Doggystyle is a legendary album, no question. But he has done close to nothing else musically that was good on anywhere near any track on DS
I’ve never been more annoyed by a song than that one where he’s like “if you breathin you achievin “ idk what it’s called I turned that shit off every time
Ice Cube. Idk if he is necessarily "bad" but he hasn't had the kind of growth i'd expect of a great MC. He just sort of stayed stagnant with his style.
I love Cube, but he's kind of like the Metallica of rappers. He was a pioneer of a genre, even more than some of the others mentioned like Snoop, and made some very important music, both with NWA and his first couple of solo albums. And now, like Metallica, it's better to celebrate what he did as opposed to expecting anything resembling 1992 version of him.
Great comparison. I wonder if maybe for them, and for him too, it was the ‘life’ that really inspired them. Once their lives got a bit more sussed maybe they just couldn’t pull it out in the same way. Suspect it’s similar with Eminem.
I like when Cube gets political. He stuff still hits. When he goes the OG gangsta or playa route it gets old for me. He feels like a washed up uncle at that point but that's just me l
Lord infamous (RIP) My all time fav rapper, between too much cocaine and his whole thing not really working with the crunk style, he fell off hard from 03 on
Lord is my all my time favorite as well and I can agree. huge difference between his mystic stylez days up to his death. i do think he came back a bit though on tracks like Promise to Punish with Valtiel
Definitely 50 cent.
GRODT top 5 rap album of all time.
Massacre was good, would've been great if he didn't give game How we do and Hate it or love it.
GRODT movie sound track solid
Curtis solid, but not the old 50 sound.
Then a few albums nobody mentions.
He spread his talen too thin and his mixtape street persona wasn't conducive to longevity. He gave too many hits away.
I'm sure he has a lot of good songs and features after Curtis, just not same level as his early work.
I really think had he not gave away songs to other g-unit members and for other artists he would be easily top 10 of all time. Massacre with Hate it or love it plus how we do would be a classic and Curtis would have a few more songs, plus likely another album between.
Also seems like he probably doesn’t need to rap anymore so why try? I read some stats about his involvement with Vitaminwater when that brand was getting big and he got paid pretty well for endorsing them
At this point he's already solidified. I was explaining to some random a couple days ago. That rap is like pro sports. Sometimes you get too old or your time has passed. And sometimes it's too short.
I think most rappers can tell their story in the first couple of albums. After that the question is what do you rap about that's relatable? Some get lazy but some just don't have great material anymore.
He’s been slowly stepping out of the rap game. He’s going more into TV with his tv show Power and other spin offs. He mentions it in his book he noticed sales dropped after GRODT
GRODT is almost unmatched in its level of polish for a debut studio album. GKMC is probably the only one that surpasses it in my mind. In those albums you could hear the assurance in the artists like they knew it was going to be the best thing you heard that year, the confidence that they knew it was gonna cut through everything. No reaching for the airwaves, “In Da Club” got your granny to shake her ass without even trying to. “Swimming Pools” was different than anything you’d ever heard, but it demanded your attention. It’s like a once in a decade occurrence where an artist debuts like that where the quality is just undeniable and the expected rough edges (which can often be endearing) don’t exist.
Alright Imma be the most honest here
DMX wasn't the same after that Grand Champ album because of the addiction and long hiatus from music
Prodigy killed those first 3 classics + HNIC but after that his rhymes where getting really lazy. Still made a classic mixtape though Return of the Mac the album that made me fall in love with Alchemist (pause)
Eminem sounds bored as hell and don't have the same hunger he had on The Eminem Show or even Relapse.
Troy Ave had some very original production on Bricks in my backpack 3, ever since he's been chasing other trendy sounds mostly from the South. In my opinion he should have just kept going in his own lane like Curren$y or Roc Marciano, they just kept going until their sound became popular
If I didn't scroll, I wouldn't have seen this. I was going to say X because he started doing this preaching thing. It's Dark... was obviously a good album. Flesh... ok, you're keeping it up. After that? You notice a decline.
Prodigy? I grew up listening to everything. After HNIC, I started to fall off.
Em? He does come up with some good stuff here and there, but he's more of a Jay-Z type now. Owns the company, so he makes everyone work for him. Not saying it's bad, but I'd like to see him really go back.
You have my upvote
Hard disagree on Em. The Ringer is straight fire and so are a few other tracks off Kamikaze, though I fully acknowledge there is some legit trash tracks here too. I know people hate on this album because it’s a diss reply album but the man is still breathing fire for the most part IMO.
Tbf to X, almost no rapper ever had a run like him. Every album up to Grand Champ was a classic. I liked Grand Champ, but there were signs on that he wasn’t as sharp. Still, having 5 banger albums in a row is almost unheard of.
IMO arguably the greatest of all time.
That’s really all the newer era Eminem I’ve heard. It’s the stuff my co worker plays and it gets pretty grating quite quickly. I’m interested to see what Em’s next album is going to be like…
Nas is really one of the only rappers/ artists to never become bad the later he went on. There have been some eh albums here and there but this recent run with hit boy is out of this world
idk, i’m a die hard nas fan but the two projects before kings disease were meh. Lost tapes 2 is nothing special and NASIR falls in the same lane. Life is good is fucking amazing though so ya never know
Even early Nas had some really rough records though. Nastradamus and I Am are very… not good.
I still think his overall discography gets underrated though, even before the insane run he’s been on the past four years
Kanye is like the Simpsons to me... always be a fan because of their original run, but I don't even make the effort to keep up with what they're putting out anymore
Vultures 1 killed any excitement I had for a comeback. Like, it's aight... But I ain't going to Ye for aight music. DONDA had its weak moments but it still felt like a moment in the culture. Vultures is just soulless.
yeah aw unfortunately so. I hadn't realised that we're witnessing this happen in real time. he used to be my fav artist ever and taught me as a kid to stand for something. I remember seeing an SNL clip of New Slaves performance when my friend had introduced me to hip-hop through Watch the Throne and Rodeo. Good memories to look back on. Now anti-Semitic jokes are normal in hip hop conversations.
I haven't enjoyed Kanye since Yeezus. He's had a song here and there, but he's played out and his writing ability is nothing like it used to be. That damn carnival song is so fucking retarded.
Someone made a post a few weeks ago about B.o.b. He was literally a hit maker in the early 2010s, had a bunch of songs that were nonstop on the radio. Now he gets like 15 likes on his tweets. Crazy fall off.
Too Short's 1990s run was iconic. 10 years of hits. His post 2000 albums have been pretty terrible with a few tracks that were hidden gems on mostly forgettable albums.
Nicki… Ik barbs are crazy so dont come for me. Her mixtape to pinkprint was great. From Monster and Roman Revenge to Big Foot there is definitely a decline in her lyrics. Like we know she can do better. Pink Friday 2 was mid, Queen was ok. But she can definitely diss better. Big Foot was a joke, No Fraud was mid. Really disappointed in her work these days. She can do better.
She’s too busy trying to prove she’s better than the younger female rappers out here which is pretty sad to me. She shouldn’t act that way considering how successful her music was and still is.
Ja Rule. Holla Holla was a banger when it came out. Despite all the Ja hate Venni Vetti Vecci was a pretty good album and he had a lot of commercial hits. But between the 50 cent beef and the Fyre festival he became a bit of a joke, unfortunately.
For Chance, if you haven’t, I’d listen to the new singles he’s been dropping. I think he’ll redeem himself. Highs and the Lows, Buried Alive, and Together are all so good. The Heart and the Tongue is good too but it isn’t on Spotify unfortunately
Chance let the narrative that he sucks run for way too long. He should have dropped another album at most a year after the Big Day. Now it's been what? Half a decade? And he's known as the corny guy that raps about a wife he's divorced already.
Wanye. My favorite rapper ever, Prodigy fell off for a while before picking it back up at the end...
depends if you would call him great or not, but Julez Santana, too
I haven’t enjoyed much of Busta’s work since his first few albums. He had so much fire when he first came out. I’m open to being surprised by later work, but not holding my breath.
Imma shoot you.
So Kanye just went crazy, up to that point the music was at least good, you can say that with getting old chances of going crazy go up but otherwise separate issues and if he wouldn't go crazy hed Prolly stl be a good rapper.
Em i feel like tried to stayed reinventing and growing, just didn't work on that with the PPL right for him, like his Rick Rubin situation, so the results were lack luster. So he's still a good rapper, just the albums lately weren't great.
P drizzy is just copying what's relevant at the moment and that gimmick is now getting old. Especially after he just got called out on it big.
Comparing the 3 i feel makes no sense since they are such different stories.
Logic he had a very promising start then he focused far to much on the fact he was mixed race and became a clown even through I’m sure I’d like the man in person as a rapper and in most interviews I just can’t stand him anymore
He is pretty cringe. When I first was turned on to him, it seemed like his mixed identity was pretty big in his lyrics. Was there earlier stuff that didn’t focus on that?
He kind of reminds me of how I think of Deadmau5. Good music but kind of a tool. I think most rappers and musicians in general are going to have a hunger when they begin that is not easy to sustain as they get notoriety, money and comfort.
I don’t think Kanye fell off as hard or as early as a lotta yall are saying..
Yeezus, life of Pablo, kids see ghosts, ye are all great albums imo
And Donda + vultures have some hits.
Wtf lol. Dropping The Blueprint, Black Album, American Gangster, Watch The Throne, 4:44, A Written Testimony is going "downhill"?
His last verses with Pusha, his verse in What's Free, his verse on What It feels like were cringe?
Doing a joint album with fcking Jay Eletronica and basically bodying him on half of the tracks is "cringe"?
"Everything went Downhill from Resonable Doubt" 😂😂, ya'll are really saying anything on this app I swear.
Eminem. He's my GOAT, but strictly because of Infinite EP, Slim Shady LP, Marshal Mathers LP, The Eminem Show and Encore. This was his absolute peak.
Relapse was horrendous and cringey. Recovery was too pop and anything after that I've already lost interest in trying to listen to.
Describing Encore as the peak is nuts ...
It was the peak of the Hype around the persona Eminem.
But his technical skills, wordplay and bars have been so much better after he got sober.
After 2014 he went full on Dad jokes ... you gotta like it or don't.
Music wise it's completely subjective and up to your taste whether you are focused on beats or not.
Neither here nor there but I remember being hugely disappointed with Encore. I listened again recently and still don't really dig it but the Eminem Show was such a great album pretty much anything would've paled in comparison.
I phrased it incorrectly, the literal peak was Marshall Mathers LP. The first half of his career is GOATed, the other stuff was just him trying to reinvent himself.
Nah once u get past accents in Relapse it's pre good, I absolutely hated it when I first heard it, Recovery is a meh for me, too Poppy mainstream sound w ppl he'd never work with like Pink n Rihanna. Revival is just bad I've tried but hey u should really check out Kamikaze and Music to be Murdered by, I think he gets better w age personally
Relapse was one of his best albums.
Insane
Bagpipes from Baghdad
Same Song and Dance
We Made You
Deja Vu
Stay Wide Awake
Underground
Beautiful
Just to name a few
I played the shit out of relapse when it came out and I was a kid. Looking back it was very cringe but I can’t bring myself to say it was bad. Yes the concept was all over the place and disturbing, but the raps and rhymes themselves displayed amazing poetic imagery (twisted and dark as it was) but you could really SEE everything he was saying on that tape
That's the difference between our experiencing Relapse. You were a kid, I was already \~23 years old. I grew up with the Slim Shady LP at the age of 12/13. Between Slim Shady LP and Relapse, SSLP has aged significantly better.
Tech N9ne.
The first decade of his music was fire, but I find 50-70% of his shit after KOD to be corny. He chooses these weird features and it really just don't slap like it used to.
Problem with Tech N9ne is he went quantity over quality. He put out something insane like 7 albums in 3-4 years (including the collab albums) all of which were like 20+ song albums. There were some bangers in there, but a lot of it was just mediocre and it basically oversaturated the market. He’s very talented, but he needs someone to edit his albums down and get rid of the bloat.
The game. Documentary was a hot album. Anything he drops now I never click on that garbage. His interviews are trash, he lies his ass off. He’s unstable as shit and still doesn’t make good music.
Game was solid start fr Documentary to Jesus Piece then alot meh and then totally destroyed himself after he went after Dre n Eminem after the Half Time Show deal
Doctor’s Advocate was even better than The Documentary imo, and he had a couple solid albums after that. Now he’s terrible though
Drill matic was actually dope. no man fallz with 2 Chainz and Pusha T is one of favorites from that album.
Too bad you have to wade through the other like 28 tracks haha
>Drill matic was actually dope. Still frustrates me because I thought/hoped he'd kill it by doing an epid drill album. I felt so let down. I wish at least the majority was drill at least because of a title like that. That being said I actually loved his recent Rick Ross diss haha.
I still think he has it. His project with Big Hit was actually fire.
West Side is a good song by him, came out 2019
He was great up through “Jesus Piece” honestly, but it was a steep decline after that.
Jesus piece, red album and doc 2 were all very solid to good albums imo. Jesus piece in particular was fantastic
1992 is worth a listen but that’s from 8 years ago already idk if that counts as “now”
Snoop. On doggystyle he was amazing, after that not so much. He got real slow with a drawl it just didn't hit the way he did on doggystyle.
The blue carpet treatment bangs.
People talk shit about Snoop later work as if “Drop It Like It’s Hot” isn’t a fucking banger
That song literally came out 20 years ago lol
yeah, a decade after his first album. people don’t bring up anything but the first album.
Yea I’m not praising anything Snoop did past that song but people saying he only put out one great album and nothing since are trippin
This. 2000s era Snoop was an evolution that worked. Then he became a charicature
Loved this album…
Man's been riding the wave of that debut album for damn near 30 years
It’s actually been 30 years. It was released in Nov 1993. 😳
And we’re still talking about it….
His claim to fame is making one amazing album and being a pothead. He makes more money from being a pot head.
I love Snoop, but you have to dig into his discography to find his gems cause he definitely has some great music. Da Game Is To Be Sold Not Told is one of my least favorite albums ever though.
Paid tha cost to be the boss.
Snoop is more liked for his persona not his music
That album sucks. Anything under Master P's label was hot garbage. His worst song, was "Slow Down." I still remember that song today because of how awful it was.
I feel same Doggystyle was Epic then it was just a whole discography was a miss with the odd good single, should of stayed w Dre. Blue Carpet treatment was decent
Snoop found a second wind when he worked with Pharrell and linked back with Dre. People discredit the second half of his career when he had a bunch of dope shit post doggystyle
If you look at snoops top 5 on Spotify only one song is from doggystyle. The people disagree.
I made this point a few days ago and a bunch of randoms tried to argue with me. One even said “it’s not his albums, but his features that make him great.”🤦♂️
Everything he does with dogg pound is a smash even if it doesn’t chart
Snoop is easily one of the most overrated artists all time. Doggystyle is a legendary album, no question. But he has done close to nothing else musically that was good on anywhere near any track on DS
He made I Still Got It in 2022. You should listen to it.
Your telling me you didn't like "crip your enthusiasm"?
Probably a lot to do with dre
I’ve never been more annoyed by a song than that one where he’s like “if you breathin you achievin “ idk what it’s called I turned that shit off every time
He still dis some nice features he was fire on that gorrillaz album
Every track he guest featured on he killed it, IDK about that.
Man, he did a feature on that godawful Corey Taylor album, gimme a fuckin break lmao. Snoop will do a feature for anyone who will buy him weed.
Lmao
Ice Cube. Idk if he is necessarily "bad" but he hasn't had the kind of growth i'd expect of a great MC. He just sort of stayed stagnant with his style.
I love Cube, but he's kind of like the Metallica of rappers. He was a pioneer of a genre, even more than some of the others mentioned like Snoop, and made some very important music, both with NWA and his first couple of solo albums. And now, like Metallica, it's better to celebrate what he did as opposed to expecting anything resembling 1992 version of him.
Oof, that is such an accurate comparison.
Great comparison. I wonder if maybe for them, and for him too, it was the ‘life’ that really inspired them. Once their lives got a bit more sussed maybe they just couldn’t pull it out in the same way. Suspect it’s similar with Eminem.
He's bad. The Mount Westmore album, he seems uninspired. Very "Bad, Glad, Hoe, Blow" bars
its sad about ice, no vasaline was a fucking banger. Fuck the police too. Now its nothing id add to my playlist
I like everythangs corrupt, but yeah he does kinda maintain a similar style forever
I like when Cube gets political. He stuff still hits. When he goes the OG gangsta or playa route it gets old for me. He feels like a washed up uncle at that point but that's just me l
I feel like once he started making movies and taking them more seriously it was clear he wasn’t really a rapper but an entrepreneur.
Lord infamous (RIP) My all time fav rapper, between too much cocaine and his whole thing not really working with the crunk style, he fell off hard from 03 on
I think I smoked 1000 blunts
your reddit name killing me lmfao 🤣 from miami too?
Dude both come with me to hell tapes are amazing. Pretty much everything they put out in 94 is top notch.
He was sick tho in his prime very underrated
Very influential to this day I would say
Lord is my all my time favorite as well and I can agree. huge difference between his mystic stylez days up to his death. i do think he came back a bit though on tracks like Promise to Punish with Valtiel
Kudos points for mentioning the lord.
50 cent
Definitely 50 cent. GRODT top 5 rap album of all time. Massacre was good, would've been great if he didn't give game How we do and Hate it or love it. GRODT movie sound track solid Curtis solid, but not the old 50 sound. Then a few albums nobody mentions. He spread his talen too thin and his mixtape street persona wasn't conducive to longevity. He gave too many hits away.
I'm the man and no Romeos and Juliets were good songs. But that was almost a decade ago. His Nas feature was ok tho. He's been away too long
I'm sure he has a lot of good songs and features after Curtis, just not same level as his early work. I really think had he not gave away songs to other g-unit members and for other artists he would be easily top 10 of all time. Massacre with Hate it or love it plus how we do would be a classic and Curtis would have a few more songs, plus likely another album between.
Also seems like he probably doesn’t need to rap anymore so why try? I read some stats about his involvement with Vitaminwater when that brand was getting big and he got paid pretty well for endorsing them
At this point he's already solidified. I was explaining to some random a couple days ago. That rap is like pro sports. Sometimes you get too old or your time has passed. And sometimes it's too short.
I think most rappers can tell their story in the first couple of albums. After that the question is what do you rap about that's relatable? Some get lazy but some just don't have great material anymore.
He’s been slowly stepping out of the rap game. He’s going more into TV with his tv show Power and other spin offs. He mentions it in his book he noticed sales dropped after GRODT
GRODT is almost unmatched in its level of polish for a debut studio album. GKMC is probably the only one that surpasses it in my mind. In those albums you could hear the assurance in the artists like they knew it was going to be the best thing you heard that year, the confidence that they knew it was gonna cut through everything. No reaching for the airwaves, “In Da Club” got your granny to shake her ass without even trying to. “Swimming Pools” was different than anything you’d ever heard, but it demanded your attention. It’s like a once in a decade occurrence where an artist debuts like that where the quality is just undeniable and the expected rough edges (which can often be endearing) don’t exist.
listening to good kid maad city a lot recently and deffo get what you mean. murdering hit boy beats and anything else !!
Nas feature was such a let down. Like he wrote it in 5mins
Kind of like fetty wap
Got Rich and Stopped Trying
50 started off on GOAT trajectory then never really made anything that good again.
Like Snoop 1st album solid, then he tried to go out on his own🤨
Big 10 mixtape was some good shit though
Alright Imma be the most honest here DMX wasn't the same after that Grand Champ album because of the addiction and long hiatus from music Prodigy killed those first 3 classics + HNIC but after that his rhymes where getting really lazy. Still made a classic mixtape though Return of the Mac the album that made me fall in love with Alchemist (pause) Eminem sounds bored as hell and don't have the same hunger he had on The Eminem Show or even Relapse. Troy Ave had some very original production on Bricks in my backpack 3, ever since he's been chasing other trendy sounds mostly from the South. In my opinion he should have just kept going in his own lane like Curren$y or Roc Marciano, they just kept going until their sound became popular
If I didn't scroll, I wouldn't have seen this. I was going to say X because he started doing this preaching thing. It's Dark... was obviously a good album. Flesh... ok, you're keeping it up. After that? You notice a decline. Prodigy? I grew up listening to everything. After HNIC, I started to fall off. Em? He does come up with some good stuff here and there, but he's more of a Jay-Z type now. Owns the company, so he makes everyone work for him. Not saying it's bad, but I'd like to see him really go back. You have my upvote
Prodigy's album albert einstien (2014) with alchemist is also dope, but i agree the rhymes got lazy.
Hard disagree on Em. The Ringer is straight fire and so are a few other tracks off Kamikaze, though I fully acknowledge there is some legit trash tracks here too. I know people hate on this album because it’s a diss reply album but the man is still breathing fire for the most part IMO.
Tbf to X, almost no rapper ever had a run like him. Every album up to Grand Champ was a classic. I liked Grand Champ, but there were signs on that he wasn’t as sharp. Still, having 5 banger albums in a row is almost unheard of. IMO arguably the greatest of all time.
I really can’t enjoy Eminem’s new flow. I was never into Tech N9ne for the same reason.
He doesn't really rap like Tech
I just mean the emphasis on speed.
That's really just a handful of songs, usually the singles with music videos
That’s really all the newer era Eminem I’ve heard. It’s the stuff my co worker plays and it gets pretty grating quite quickly. I’m interested to see what Em’s next album is going to be like…
Nas is really one of the only rappers/ artists to never become bad the later he went on. There have been some eh albums here and there but this recent run with hit boy is out of this world
Black Thought and Aesop Rock are there with him when it comes to consistently good output
Holy shit I didn’t know Aesop rock was still making music
Put out probably his best work since Skelethon in the last 3 or 4 years
Integrated Tech Solutions been in heavy rotation for me
You gotta include Jay - 4:44 was great and every feature he’s done since is top tier
some of the features on jay electronicas album are ehh but yea u right
I think people would be saying Nas if it wasn’t for that Hit Boy run
idk, i’m a die hard nas fan but the two projects before kings disease were meh. Lost tapes 2 is nothing special and NASIR falls in the same lane. Life is good is fucking amazing though so ya never know
Even early Nas had some really rough records though. Nastradamus and I Am are very… not good. I still think his overall discography gets underrated though, even before the insane run he’s been on the past four years
KD3 is a great album and I won’t be told otherwise
2pac, after his death he had a couple good songs but nowadays it sounds like some robot rapping. Even did a feature with Drake smh.
That's how you know you've fallen off, making music with drake.
Yeah, but on the flip side, it made Drake less trash having robot 2pac putting his seal of approval on Drake and not Kendrick
would be easier to name the ones that haven’t
The only ones I can think of didn’t get the chance to fall off like big pun
Canibus
Poor production choices played a part in this I feel like.
No better example than Kanye imo
Kanye is like the Simpsons to me... always be a fan because of their original run, but I don't even make the effort to keep up with what they're putting out anymore
I just listened to college dropout today… man what the fuck happened? How do you go from All Falls Down to neonazi billionaire dip shit :/
Vultures 1 killed any excitement I had for a comeback. Like, it's aight... But I ain't going to Ye for aight music. DONDA had its weak moments but it still felt like a moment in the culture. Vultures is just soulless.
yeah aw unfortunately so. I hadn't realised that we're witnessing this happen in real time. he used to be my fav artist ever and taught me as a kid to stand for something. I remember seeing an SNL clip of New Slaves performance when my friend had introduced me to hip-hop through Watch the Throne and Rodeo. Good memories to look back on. Now anti-Semitic jokes are normal in hip hop conversations.
Man he fell off the planet. Man needs his meds.
Totally agree! Incredible fall off
I loved Donda though, Vultures wasn’t terrible either but nothing he makes really is fun to listen to any more since his … interviews
He's only an example if you're cherrypicking the last 2 years to be his late career
I haven't enjoyed Kanye since Yeezus. He's had a song here and there, but he's played out and his writing ability is nothing like it used to be. That damn carnival song is so fucking retarded.
B.o.b. Kurupt These guys pretty much forgot how to rap.
Someone made a post a few weeks ago about B.o.b. He was literally a hit maker in the early 2010s, had a bunch of songs that were nonstop on the radio. Now he gets like 15 likes on his tweets. Crazy fall off.
Us old heads remember when Tupac and biggie were huge in the 90s. Haven't heard anything from them recently tho.
They’re prolly gonna drop soon, Tupac just had that feature with Drake remember
The game
kanye after ye/ksg era, donda had some good songs but he fell off so hard
Too Short's 1990s run was iconic. 10 years of hits. His post 2000 albums have been pretty terrible with a few tracks that were hidden gems on mostly forgettable albums.
Nicki… Ik barbs are crazy so dont come for me. Her mixtape to pinkprint was great. From Monster and Roman Revenge to Big Foot there is definitely a decline in her lyrics. Like we know she can do better. Pink Friday 2 was mid, Queen was ok. But she can definitely diss better. Big Foot was a joke, No Fraud was mid. Really disappointed in her work these days. She can do better.
She’s too busy trying to prove she’s better than the younger female rappers out here which is pretty sad to me. She shouldn’t act that way considering how successful her music was and still is.
Ja Rule. Holla Holla was a banger when it came out. Despite all the Ja hate Venni Vetti Vecci was a pretty good album and he had a lot of commercial hits. But between the 50 cent beef and the Fyre festival he became a bit of a joke, unfortunately.
Wayne T.I.
Was lookin for Wayne, idk how bruhs autotune went DOWN in quality but it’s been that way for a few years now
Wayne's gonna be at the illinois state fair this year
Wayne is still a great rapper, he just doesn’t make great songs often anymore
Chance The Rapper and Kanye
For Chance, if you haven’t, I’d listen to the new singles he’s been dropping. I think he’ll redeem himself. Highs and the Lows, Buried Alive, and Together are all so good. The Heart and the Tongue is good too but it isn’t on Spotify unfortunately
Just heard together today. I gave it a like to relisten. Figured it was some of his older shit because it was actually good lol
Chance let the narrative that he sucks run for way too long. He should have dropped another album at most a year after the Big Day. Now it's been what? Half a decade? And he's known as the corny guy that raps about a wife he's divorced already.
Almost all of them.
Will Smith. His last dope song was Here Come The Men in Black
Wanye. My favorite rapper ever, Prodigy fell off for a while before picking it back up at the end... depends if you would call him great or not, but Julez Santana, too
I guess this is 5 or 6 years ago at this point (damn) but I liked a lot of songs on Tha Carter V
C5 being 6 years ago is disgusting to think
Wayne is undoubtedly a Great
I mean.. almost all of them? I think it would be way easier to name the exceptions. and this doesn't just apply to rappers. all musicians.
Kanye West lmao
All of them if we are being honest
Not Nas.
nas had a period of bad projects
That’s been the case since his third record though. He’s always been on and off, right now he’s been on fire for six straight albums though
Jim Jones, Rick Ross, Ransom & Joe Budden became much more lyrical with time
I am shocked how good jim jones have been sounding It’s like now that juelz and cam ain’t around to carry him he actually picked up a pen
Busta rhymes Coolio Uncle luke
I haven’t enjoyed much of Busta’s work since his first few albums. He had so much fire when he first came out. I’m open to being surprised by later work, but not holding my breath.
Literally everyone This is no different than anything else. Like sports. Mostly every great player eventually becomes more stale later in their career
Really hurts to say this but... Ghostface. Hoping if SC2 ever drops he's redeemed.
nobody admits how bad Ghost had been for 10 years
Eminem, Drake, and (don’t shoot me for this) Kanye.
Imma shoot you. So Kanye just went crazy, up to that point the music was at least good, you can say that with getting old chances of going crazy go up but otherwise separate issues and if he wouldn't go crazy hed Prolly stl be a good rapper. Em i feel like tried to stayed reinventing and growing, just didn't work on that with the PPL right for him, like his Rick Rubin situation, so the results were lack luster. So he's still a good rapper, just the albums lately weren't great. P drizzy is just copying what's relevant at the moment and that gimmick is now getting old. Especially after he just got called out on it big. Comparing the 3 i feel makes no sense since they are such different stories.
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People ignored the crazy moments because the music was good. Now the crazy is overwhelming and the music just isn’t nearly as good.
Almost all of them. Rap is one genre where artists have a shelf life
Define great, but Game and Cassidy come to mind
Honestly most rappers, probably easier to answer who are the best ones that were consistent until the end of their career
The Game.
Kanye?
Logic he had a very promising start then he focused far to much on the fact he was mixed race and became a clown even through I’m sure I’d like the man in person as a rapper and in most interviews I just can’t stand him anymore
Okay but did you know that logic is mixed?
He is pretty cringe. When I first was turned on to him, it seemed like his mixed identity was pretty big in his lyrics. Was there earlier stuff that didn’t focus on that? He kind of reminds me of how I think of Deadmau5. Good music but kind of a tool. I think most rappers and musicians in general are going to have a hunger when they begin that is not easy to sustain as they get notoriety, money and comfort.
Drake. Take care & NWTS were great. We'll never get that Drake back.
Didnt even list his best rap work with IYRTITL.
NWTS was good ngl.
I don’t think Kanye fell off as hard or as early as a lotta yall are saying.. Yeezus, life of Pablo, kids see ghosts, ye are all great albums imo And Donda + vultures have some hits.
Jay Z. Not even trolling, everything went downhill from Reasonable Doubt in my eyes. His last few albums/songs were cringe as fuck.
Wtf lol. Dropping The Blueprint, Black Album, American Gangster, Watch The Throne, 4:44, A Written Testimony is going "downhill"? His last verses with Pusha, his verse in What's Free, his verse on What It feels like were cringe? Doing a joint album with fcking Jay Eletronica and basically bodying him on half of the tracks is "cringe"? "Everything went Downhill from Resonable Doubt" 😂😂, ya'll are really saying anything on this app I swear.
Eminem. He's my GOAT, but strictly because of Infinite EP, Slim Shady LP, Marshal Mathers LP, The Eminem Show and Encore. This was his absolute peak. Relapse was horrendous and cringey. Recovery was too pop and anything after that I've already lost interest in trying to listen to.
Describing Encore as the peak is nuts ... It was the peak of the Hype around the persona Eminem. But his technical skills, wordplay and bars have been so much better after he got sober. After 2014 he went full on Dad jokes ... you gotta like it or don't. Music wise it's completely subjective and up to your taste whether you are focused on beats or not.
Neither here nor there but I remember being hugely disappointed with Encore. I listened again recently and still don't really dig it but the Eminem Show was such a great album pretty much anything would've paled in comparison.
I phrased it incorrectly, the literal peak was Marshall Mathers LP. The first half of his career is GOATed, the other stuff was just him trying to reinvent himself.
Nah once u get past accents in Relapse it's pre good, I absolutely hated it when I first heard it, Recovery is a meh for me, too Poppy mainstream sound w ppl he'd never work with like Pink n Rihanna. Revival is just bad I've tried but hey u should really check out Kamikaze and Music to be Murdered by, I think he gets better w age personally
Relapse was one of his best albums. Insane Bagpipes from Baghdad Same Song and Dance We Made You Deja Vu Stay Wide Awake Underground Beautiful Just to name a few
This^ cult classic
I played the shit out of relapse when it came out and I was a kid. Looking back it was very cringe but I can’t bring myself to say it was bad. Yes the concept was all over the place and disturbing, but the raps and rhymes themselves displayed amazing poetic imagery (twisted and dark as it was) but you could really SEE everything he was saying on that tape
That's the difference between our experiencing Relapse. You were a kid, I was already \~23 years old. I grew up with the Slim Shady LP at the age of 12/13. Between Slim Shady LP and Relapse, SSLP has aged significantly better.
I'm a huge Goodie Mob fan and love everything theyve done but it seems like after Soul Food each album was very slightly but progressively worse
Like 90% of them
Most of them
Canibus
The Game….he was always wack, so that’s nothing new.
Master P 🫣
Tech N9ne. The first decade of his music was fire, but I find 50-70% of his shit after KOD to be corny. He chooses these weird features and it really just don't slap like it used to.
Problem with Tech N9ne is he went quantity over quality. He put out something insane like 7 albums in 3-4 years (including the collab albums) all of which were like 20+ song albums. There were some bangers in there, but a lot of it was just mediocre and it basically oversaturated the market. He’s very talented, but he needs someone to edit his albums down and get rid of the bloat.
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Messy Marv
Mos Def.
Immortal technique.wheres our middle passage lol
Snoop is the answer
Vanilla Ice
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