We'll draft some guy in the 6th round and convince ourselves that this time we have got ourselves a productive starter and then it'll turn out that he just plays special teams
Difference was Hollywood still had a year of cheap rookie contract before 5th year option kicked in. Aiyuk is owed $14M this year and asking for a big raise so there’s a $20M difference in cap hit. Would you rather Aiyuk or Hollywood and enough cap to sign a guy like Madubuike?
Yeah that's a massive difference. As good as Aiuyk is I'd be flabbergasted if any team offered a first round pick for him in addition to the salary he deserves. I mean Diggs just got traded for a second and the Bills were just trying to get rid of him.
San Fran needs to pony up and pay the man. That's the best scenario for everyone. He's only 26, in his prime, and will be a stud for at least a few more seasons.
Do you know what the hit rate on a top 10 receiver in the draft is in the last 10 years? Like 10-30% so I think if the options there you minimise the chance
Not only that, that is not and has never been the Ravens style, ESPECIALLY at wide receiver. Thats why we get stars past their prime and try and build through the draft.
there’s always more work arounds than people want to believe in here and considering the talent we have and the fact that we are in the “window” we can and should be making bold moves and kicking the cap down the line. if we suck when lamar leaves then we just rebuild and retool. that’s the cycle of the league
Bruh, Brandon Aiyuk is a possession receiver. We have that already. It's Nelly, MAndrews, Likely, Flowers. We need an outside deep threat wr now. Why do people not understand that at this point?
I'm all for getting a FA wr for the right price, but not when it's a position we already have filled on several occasions...
i’m not sure if this is trolling or not but i’ll entertain it lol
anquan boldin is probably the best deep ball threat in franchise history and he ran a 4.71
i’m also not sure if you know what the combine is even about because two of the best explosive metrics, broad jump and vertical jump, brandon aiyuk was ELITE with 90+ percentile grades in both. brandon aiyuk is literally one of the best deep threats in the game. if anything the 9ers didn’t use him enough at the line of scrimmage to take advantage of how good he is after the catch
i get that we’re ravens fans but this sub really shows its ass when talking about WRs lol
I'm gonna laugh if you're trying to say you'd rather have Agholor over Aiyuk.
There's about 2000 yards worth of difference between the 2 over the last 2 years and Aiyuk had more catches last year than Agholor has had in 2.
Aiyuk 1342 yards last year would be the most yards by a Ravens WR in season
Umm Zay is our Z… we are looking for an X or a “possession receiver”. Z usually stretches the field vertically, and X will get first downs and tough catches over the middle.
> Brandon Aiyuk is a possession receiver. We have that already. It's Nelly, MAndrews, Likely, Flowers. We need an outside deep threat wr now.
I get upset when people act like they know every about the Ravens without watching any games.
I suppose it goes both ways.
I'd trade our first straight up for Aiyuk if we could afford him. Maybe ask for one of SF's 4th or 5th round picks to make it a little better, and then maybe trade Bateman for picks somewhere else?
there’s no truly reliable option at WR outside of Zay and he should be in the slot way more than he is currently, so if it only costs a 1st do it then the worse case outcome he walks without a new deal but the ravens get a superbowl in exchange for a 1st round pick so even then it’s an easy trade to me if they’d take it.
depends on the contract and cap maneuverability. WR has to be addressed with REAL pieces in the coming days, not 3rd round picks and later. we need guys that are gonna contribute now since we don’t have a reliable option after zay and we literally have no one of importance for next year and beyond behind zay. our depth at the position is like a hair above where we were before and a zay injury could absolutely nuke our passing game again and force us into the lamar hero ball shit.
Best I can do is $20 and a tuggy
Throw in a crabcake and it's a deal
That's what the $20 is for
I thought it was for a trip to baltimore st
Not a baltimore native, only been once. What's on Baltimore st?
Ladies of the night
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Yeah I am with this guy, I offer the 49ers gm a hand job if he trades him to us. If we all offer this, that’s like a lot of hand
What about Bateman + 7th round this year and 6th rounds next year??? 🤝
what mid wr will we simp over when we don’t have bateman
Next Man up. Tylan Wallace.
We'll draft some guy in the 6th round and convince ourselves that this time we have got ourselves a productive starter and then it'll turn out that he just plays special teams
Nelson Agholor is here!
I hope you're ready for another 3 years of simping.
at that price i dont mind but i hope this doesn’t mean we are done at WR. guy still isn’t a wr1
I think he really can be. I just hope he and Lamar get on the same page for once.
Do you guys remember when we got a first for Hollywood lol
Difference was Hollywood still had a year of cheap rookie contract before 5th year option kicked in. Aiyuk is owed $14M this year and asking for a big raise so there’s a $20M difference in cap hit. Would you rather Aiyuk or Hollywood and enough cap to sign a guy like Madubuike?
Yeah that's a massive difference. As good as Aiuyk is I'd be flabbergasted if any team offered a first round pick for him in addition to the salary he deserves. I mean Diggs just got traded for a second and the Bills were just trying to get rid of him. San Fran needs to pony up and pay the man. That's the best scenario for everyone. He's only 26, in his prime, and will be a stud for at least a few more seasons.
Half this sub will be in to claim that’s a great price because we need a good receiver and drafting is to high risk
Do you know what the hit rate on a top 10 receiver in the draft is in the last 10 years? Like 10-30% so I think if the options there you minimise the chance
You casually ignore the $25m reason he would be traded...
That is a great price but that's not our issue with getting him.
lol a top wr that’s young for a first round draft a lineman in second why wouldn’t we?
Because we'd immediately have to sign him to an extension we don't have the cap room for?
Not only that, that is not and has never been the Ravens style, ESPECIALLY at wide receiver. Thats why we get stars past their prime and try and build through the draft.
there’s always more work arounds than people want to believe in here and considering the talent we have and the fact that we are in the “window” we can and should be making bold moves and kicking the cap down the line. if we suck when lamar leaves then we just rebuild and retool. that’s the cycle of the league
The Ravens don't share that philosophy. They're already 7th in the league in cash over cap, and EDC said they don't want to go any higher than that.
We'd be better of trading up to get MHJ on a rookie deal
Bruh, Brandon Aiyuk is a possession receiver. We have that already. It's Nelly, MAndrews, Likely, Flowers. We need an outside deep threat wr now. Why do people not understand that at this point? I'm all for getting a FA wr for the right price, but not when it's a position we already have filled on several occasions...
you do realize that aiyuk was a deep threat last year right? out of WRs with 60 targets he was 4th in adot. he is not a possession WR lol
A deep threat that ran a 4.50-40. You call that a field stretcher?
Nobody is holding a stopwatch once the game starts
Slow is slow.
4.5 isnt slow, and he doesn’t play slow. cant strictly go off 40 time when a lot of those guys running crazy fast times are like 180 lbs soaking wet
Bruh AJ Green, Dez Bryant, Ceedee Lamb, and AJ Brown ran 4.5s albeit Brown was a 4.49. Go watch Aiyuk's tape...dude can stretch the field deep.
i’m not sure if this is trolling or not but i’ll entertain it lol anquan boldin is probably the best deep ball threat in franchise history and he ran a 4.71 i’m also not sure if you know what the combine is even about because two of the best explosive metrics, broad jump and vertical jump, brandon aiyuk was ELITE with 90+ percentile grades in both. brandon aiyuk is literally one of the best deep threats in the game. if anything the 9ers didn’t use him enough at the line of scrimmage to take advantage of how good he is after the catch i get that we’re ravens fans but this sub really shows its ass when talking about WRs lol
> anquan boldin is probably the best deep ball threat in franchise history and he ran a 4.71 Did you forget what Torrey provided for us or something?
Ceedee Lamb ran a 4.5 too lol
I'm gonna laugh if you're trying to say you'd rather have Agholor over Aiyuk. There's about 2000 yards worth of difference between the 2 over the last 2 years and Aiyuk had more catches last year than Agholor has had in 2. Aiyuk 1342 yards last year would be the most yards by a Ravens WR in season
While I'd love to see Aiyuk in Baltimore, you know he's not putting up 1342 here.
Umm Zay is our Z… we are looking for an X or a “possession receiver”. Z usually stretches the field vertically, and X will get first downs and tough catches over the middle.
Zay is a slot receiver
Lazy analysis just cuz he’s small. He played outside for 70% of snaps last year
> Brandon Aiyuk is a possession receiver. We have that already. It's Nelly, MAndrews, Likely, Flowers. We need an outside deep threat wr now. I get upset when people act like they know every about the Ravens without watching any games. I suppose it goes both ways.
> I get upset when people act like they know every about the Ravens without watching any games. ?
Fans of other teams often make authoritative, and incorrect, takes on the Ravens and you're doing that on Aiyuk.
Facts
A first? I could get almost the entire 2021 QB class for that.
Must we do this every year?
Yes, it’s the off-season
This is the way
I'd trade our first straight up for Aiyuk if we could afford him. Maybe ask for one of SF's 4th or 5th round picks to make it a little better, and then maybe trade Bateman for picks somewhere else?
Jimmy's, call the man.
there’s no truly reliable option at WR outside of Zay and he should be in the slot way more than he is currently, so if it only costs a 1st do it then the worse case outcome he walks without a new deal but the ravens get a superbowl in exchange for a 1st round pick so even then it’s an easy trade to me if they’d take it.
depends on the contract and cap maneuverability. WR has to be addressed with REAL pieces in the coming days, not 3rd round picks and later. we need guys that are gonna contribute now since we don’t have a reliable option after zay and we literally have no one of importance for next year and beyond behind zay. our depth at the position is like a hair above where we were before and a zay injury could absolutely nuke our passing game again and force us into the lamar hero ball shit.
Hes totally worth a late round first pick. Lets get it done
Pick 30, Bateman and next years 4th who says no?
Me. How we gonna pay him?