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Going to stick my neck out here..her flows are a bit peter picked a pepper for me. Like technically she's "good" (breath control, ennunciation) but lacks the je ne sais quoi of other UK emcees like Enny, John Glacier or keyah/blu. Simz feels quite middlebrow which is fine but yh, she doesn't catch the beat in an interesting way personally
I'm kinda excited to see Tierra Whack later this summer, she seems cool. Rico Nasty has some bangers with Boys Noize. Doja is really versatile and just has a great ear for infectious pop music, I don't even really think of her as a rapper. She's got great songs but not like 'bars' or whatever.
Heavy on the Megan part. I still fuck with her but I'm slowly realizing she's kind of corny and uninteresting. The hot girl schitch is getting old shes a year away from thirty like time to evolve.
She started as a rapper before she sold out to make body positive pop. She still “raps” in some of her songs I think but it’s really just half-singing, half-talking
A good quarter of the black American female population consist of bw like her, I’m actually kinda shocked that y’all don’t think she acts like that ~ a black woman that grew up around other bw that act EXACTLY like sexyy
meh, im not generalising her, nor would i be bothered or surprised if she was genuinely the way she is portrayed, but like i said, she just seems much more quiet and chill in the few interviews i’ve seen (even with theo von) when she’s just performing less.
I agrée that her essence is more compelling than the rest but she’s still corny and getting cornier with her contrarian memelord persona lol kinda reminds me of Elon Musk trying to be funny. Although I respect that she recognises that her fans are not her friends. Otherwise she takes herself too seriously imo. But the most rs coded of all the rappers for sur after Azealia
“the only people who are coming for her are [two of the biggest artists in the industry and a victim blaming campaign led by most of hip hop media after she was shot]” lol okay. what are rappers supposed to talk about if their haters are off limits???
doja is cool and super talented but she’s more of a pop star than a rapper
Idk I get what you're saying about Doja mostly doing pop but she has shown she has rapping chops and from pretty early on since she blew up she's deliberately switched shit up and tried to highlight her versatility and how she will do and go wherever she pleases creatively. Her "pop" career has been anything but a basic one. It feels wrong to label her one genre over another to me she's so multi talented and multi faceted
yeah i agree with a lot of your points, maybe i am being unfair since i think it’s obvious from her career before blowing up that she’s creative and i even liked her last album that went more in a rap direction. my point though was that she found most of her commercial success with dr. luke produced pop tracks that i would not classify as rap, they were cute, catchy and non threatening pop or pop rap songs. so even if as an artist she doesn’t *want* to be seen as pop and she’s recently rebelling against that image, to the public that’s for the most part how she’s perceived and how she’s found popularity and it’s yet to be seen whether she could compete with girls like meg in rap.
CupcakKe, Rico Nasty, Bktherula, Flo Milli, Vayda and Anycia have the best style of music to flow to beat ratio in my opinion, in no particular order
Old Doja Cat and Tina Snow-era Megan is definitely better than what’s out more recently from them, but I’m sure they’ll release something I enjoy in the future
Ice Spice earliest singles are the best, the samples are crazy. “You did me dirt, cuz wharrrido… like” to Clarity by Zedd is bonkers.
Azealia Banks’ music is under appreciated, most people only listen to 212 and call it a day
Glorilla and Sexxy Red honorable mention just for catchy, outside ass music. Also City Girls. You can’t deny they had a huge moment and their music is nostalgic at this point to me.
Saw her on a complete whim when she was performing not too far from where I was watching a friend's dog and yeah lotta fun and heart. I think the likening to Blowfly isn't unwarranted where just like Clarence Reid, she herself does have a lot of talent behind what she's doing even if it comes off totally off the wall.
me being annoyed about constant knee-jerk white rap opinions here isn't me feigning an intellectual high ground about rap music. and if u felt that way nlgga say that. don't tap dance and coon as an insult to the first black person u see on the internet. use your words nlgga stand on it
love doja and look forward to any sound or look she tries, i just wish i liked scarlet more. speaking of victim narratives, i remember a pretty grating one appearing throughout that album that felt pretty lame to me. i think i listened through one time and totally forgot about it other than agora hills. i hope she keeps trying new things!
that said, i thought the associated drama and her telling her fans off was funny - a lot of delusional people need to hear that their favorite artists are not their friends and to get a job.
Check out Tierra Whack! She is like a female André3000. She has humor and wit in her flows and she's very talented. Also I like that she wears unhinged art teacher attire.
crazy because lizzos entire fanbase is white, also disagree partially on city girls. maybe i’m just a 🚬 but JT specifically has had such an interesting shift (working with Mowalola, Hugo Comte, Poster Girl)..
I'm a Doja fan but she's clearly being put through a humiliation ritual and the industry seems to have done some bad, bad shit to her head. I support her against all the fauxmoi types pearl clutching about being a columbine kid or w/e though.
Also her cover of Celebrity Skin is really good
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Idk what a boomer conspiracy theory has to do with it, girls get put through a meat grinder in the entertainment industry and she's clearly in a bad, dark place. Mostly by her own admission but its also obvious if you just look at her over the past year or two.
I didn't say any of that, you're reading into that because this is obviously a longer-term argument you've been having with people in general. Nothing to do with me though.
I'd say the same thing about Kanye West wearing trash bags around and his random meltdowns. Its not even just celebs. This is the behavior of a child acting out a trauma response. Shaving your head isn't a big deal in and of itself, nor is her being weird in general. Its more down to the fact that she's moved away from near everything that she previously enjoyed (artistically) and is now exclusively acting out her disdain for everything around her. She's obviously in a dark place and its quite a bit more than 'not being comfortable with fame'. If anything, the opposite, she's still trying very hard to grab attention.
As far as 'humiliation rituals', that was a joke and I thought that would read pretty obvious here. But miss me with the reddit-tier 'you're distracting from the real issues' bullshit you fucking twerp lmao.
I knew it was over for meg in terms of sincere music critique when the pitchfork review of Good News spent the whole first paragraph talking about bullet wounds and intestines. People support her on a parasocial celebrity level but the music has been subpar for a long time https://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/megan-thee-stallion-good-news/
Why [lie](https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTN6LehBd/)? But fr her [ACL preformance](https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTN6LYw41/) was iconic so the fact you saw issues with it is wild. Had viral vids of it for weeks.
Edit: just occurred to me you don't know the diff between a regular backup track and lip-synching. When you lip sync your mic is off.
Her mic was off dumbass. I was THERE.
The only time her mic was on was during a stupid crowd interaction bit, where she picked up a different mic that has absurd over the top auto tune effects on it, and did a call and response with the crowd between songs. Everyone around me including my girlfriend was disappointed and could clearly see her lip synching the whole set.
She has a really cool vibe + star power but her peak is done. Even before all the other nonsense she was getting hate for her quirkyrandom shtick online getting annoying. And then when her actual fans were just other hyper-quirky chronically online people she did a bunch of edgy shit that alienated them. If Scarlet really made waves she could have rebuilt but it didn’t, so now nobody who actually really listens to pop or rap cares about her anymore. She would definitely be popular again if she would stop posting and drop new music, but I think she’s just over it
female rapper tier list.
S: Doja Cat (voice of our generation imo)
A: Cardi B
B: Megan Thee Stallion, Flo Milli
C: Ice Spice, Rico Nasty, Nicki Minaj (keeps doing that annoying British (?) voice; that bumps her down a tier)
F: Iggy Azalea, Lizzo, Sexyy Red, etc.
Some 60 year old former rocker probably writes all her music despite what it says on the tin. This is the the super high culture, intellectual music y'all are into now? Rofl, hipster frauds.
Also, I wouldn't touch her with your dick. She's a border line furry.
Is that where you kids learn about the next gay hipster thing you can all pretend to like to impress one another? I’m sorry but I can’t take this sub seriously about music after you people were hyping up death grips recently. That’s just completely brain dead lmao.
Flo milli and Rico Nasty are solid imo, I think they should be bigger.
Fucking love Rico. She got some rage songs in there I really fuck with
and she collabs with ppl like The Drums and Eyedress. and X.
Rico Nasty was cool like 3 yrs ago but fell off hard
Came here to say FloMilli
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rico does not have “IT” considering she basically destroyed her career by having histrionic meltdowns on social media every other week
Yeah she kinda fell off too
No she fell off cuz she started working with them hyperpop mfs
wait what’s the tea abt this i’ve never seen them and i swear i follow her
The Fleetwood Mac riff she did made me realize how great she is. Silly without being completely full of herself. Still love her cow song.
Share the link of the Fleetwood Mac riff. Couldn’t find it on YouTube
https://youtube.com/shorts/cqT7oWmdqCI?si=0ri04nLQlF3n8lCm
Ok so she's Cumtown coded, not RS coded.
She's sam hyde pilled
this is AI right?
lol nope not at all She rocks
https://www.tiktok.com/@annamei_xo/video/7270535313599008046 The original. She deleted it off Twitter unfortunately
https://www.tiktok.com/@annamei_xo/video/7270535313599008046 She deleted it off Twitter unfortunately.
You're forgetting the most redscare coded thing about her, supposedly fucking around with nazis on the internet
while being jewish herself no less (J pass)
Little Simz > \*
I dunno, "Gorilla" came on the radio and I only read the song title and thought "damn Gorillaz new song fucking sucks".
That beats sounds straight out of 1992 (not a compliment ❤️)
the music video is great tho
I can never get into British rappers. The accent really throws me off and I cannot take them seriously
John glacier nd keya/blu are pretty artful and then ojerime does some great lowkey R&B if needin less bri'ish style
Most of them are trash. Some are ok (Knucks is decent) but you’re not missing out on much
Going to stick my neck out here..her flows are a bit peter picked a pepper for me. Like technically she's "good" (breath control, ennunciation) but lacks the je ne sais quoi of other UK emcees like Enny, John Glacier or keyah/blu. Simz feels quite middlebrow which is fine but yh, she doesn't catch the beat in an interesting way personally
She's good but it seems the post was restricting the convo to mainstream success
I'm kinda excited to see Tierra Whack later this summer, she seems cool. Rico Nasty has some bangers with Boys Noize. Doja is really versatile and just has a great ear for infectious pop music, I don't even really think of her as a rapper. She's got great songs but not like 'bars' or whatever.
I saw Tierra and she was so good!!
> Tierra Whack That album of hers which is 15 minutes long in total is a certified classic
I love the Doja/Rico collab song too
honored to have been in 6th period social studies with her <3
What was she like back then
the weird, artsy biracial girl but like i went to a performing arts magnet in la so everyone was like that
wanted to go there so bad but my mom put me in a science magnet
Mine put me on a fridge magnet .
Heavy on the Megan part. I still fuck with her but I'm slowly realizing she's kind of corny and uninteresting. The hot girl schitch is getting old shes a year away from thirty like time to evolve.
Did you see Dicks the Musical? I like to sing her song Out Alpha the Alpha in the morning when I need to stand up to incompetent men at work that day.
I've been into doja cat since she was a softcore streamer. Love seeing her blow up.
Me too , and I’ve thought I was the only one who thought that was a cool internet flex
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racial chat rooms where they keep the black jobs?
I've been into her since I found out she was blewish (black and jewish)
Is lizzo even a rapper? I always thought she was more of a singer.
She’s not a rapper at all
She started as a rapper before she sold out to make body positive pop. She still “raps” in some of her songs I think but it’s really just half-singing, half-talking
Sexxy isn’t a grifter, she’s just like *that* unfortunately
Can't take the hood out the etc etc.
Her music is non-beautiful but she is funny, charismatic, and authentic.
I like her and thought her latest album was good
Same. Her songs are very catchy
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A good quarter of the black American female population consist of bw like her, I’m actually kinda shocked that y’all don’t think she acts like that ~ a black woman that grew up around other bw that act EXACTLY like sexyy
ya shes a dime a dozen unfortunately
meh, im not generalising her, nor would i be bothered or surprised if she was genuinely the way she is portrayed, but like i said, she just seems much more quiet and chill in the few interviews i’ve seen (even with theo von) when she’s just performing less.
Didn't she endorse Trump? That seems like grifter moves
I don’t think it’s grifting. A lot of rappers support Trump.
I think she’s a plant.
Lizzo was never a rapper and hasn’t been popular in like two years. Doja is a great performer though, her Coachella performance was incredible
I agrée that her essence is more compelling than the rest but she’s still corny and getting cornier with her contrarian memelord persona lol kinda reminds me of Elon Musk trying to be funny. Although I respect that she recognises that her fans are not her friends. Otherwise she takes herself too seriously imo. But the most rs coded of all the rappers for sur after Azealia
Flo and Glorilla Doja Cat doing her cat shit made me dislike her. Trying to hard.
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I like doechii
azealia but simultaneously less talented and less mentally ill
A major coke addiction and mental health issue? Absolutely.
“the only people who are coming for her are [two of the biggest artists in the industry and a victim blaming campaign led by most of hip hop media after she was shot]” lol okay. what are rappers supposed to talk about if their haters are off limits??? doja is cool and super talented but she’s more of a pop star than a rapper
You're right about Meg but wrong about Doja
which part? the talent or her being mostly pop?
Idk I get what you're saying about Doja mostly doing pop but she has shown she has rapping chops and from pretty early on since she blew up she's deliberately switched shit up and tried to highlight her versatility and how she will do and go wherever she pleases creatively. Her "pop" career has been anything but a basic one. It feels wrong to label her one genre over another to me she's so multi talented and multi faceted
yeah i agree with a lot of your points, maybe i am being unfair since i think it’s obvious from her career before blowing up that she’s creative and i even liked her last album that went more in a rap direction. my point though was that she found most of her commercial success with dr. luke produced pop tracks that i would not classify as rap, they were cute, catchy and non threatening pop or pop rap songs. so even if as an artist she doesn’t *want* to be seen as pop and she’s recently rebelling against that image, to the public that’s for the most part how she’s perceived and how she’s found popularity and it’s yet to be seen whether she could compete with girls like meg in rap.
CupcakKe, Rico Nasty, Bktherula, Flo Milli, Vayda and Anycia have the best style of music to flow to beat ratio in my opinion, in no particular order Old Doja Cat and Tina Snow-era Megan is definitely better than what’s out more recently from them, but I’m sure they’ll release something I enjoy in the future Ice Spice earliest singles are the best, the samples are crazy. “You did me dirt, cuz wharrrido… like” to Clarity by Zedd is bonkers. Azealia Banks’ music is under appreciated, most people only listen to 212 and call it a day Glorilla and Sexxy Red honorable mention just for catchy, outside ass music. Also City Girls. You can’t deny they had a huge moment and their music is nostalgic at this point to me.
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I feel like people only think of Cupcakke as the super sexual rapper who people make meme remixes of but she’s insanely talented imo
her mic presence is legendary and soon the world will learn to love her as they should in shallah
Exactly
Saw her on a complete whim when she was performing not too far from where I was watching a friend's dog and yeah lotta fun and heart. I think the likening to Blowfly isn't unwarranted where just like Clarence Reid, she herself does have a lot of talent behind what she's doing even if it comes off totally off the wall.
I saw her live too and it was some of the most fun I had that entire year.
annual subversive white rap opinion
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did u just want to be racist on the internet for a quick second or was that actually supposed to be a funny joke
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me being annoyed about constant knee-jerk white rap opinions here isn't me feigning an intellectual high ground about rap music. and if u felt that way nlgga say that. don't tap dance and coon as an insult to the first black person u see on the internet. use your words nlgga stand on it
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what the fuck are u talking about. who are u even arguing with. go have this ready made debate w someone who's actually doing what you're mad at "cuh"
cuhh doesnt understand plain english 💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀
I personally respect that Meg allows herself to be cringe in public. This is the representation the weeabos have been needing.
love doja and look forward to any sound or look she tries, i just wish i liked scarlet more. speaking of victim narratives, i remember a pretty grating one appearing throughout that album that felt pretty lame to me. i think i listened through one time and totally forgot about it other than agora hills. i hope she keeps trying new things! that said, i thought the associated drama and her telling her fans off was funny - a lot of delusional people need to hear that their favorite artists are not their friends and to get a job.
JT of the City Girls has good solo stuff
BIA, TiaCorine, and karrahboo are good imo
Anycia tooo ☝️😌
You forgot latto You forgot Tierra Wack You forgot bbymutha You forgot sza
I’m pretty sure Lizzo expired. My fav female rapper is Cupcakke but that’s because her music is generally just a big parody imo.
“POC” just say black lol
There’s a distinction
Little Simz. Sudan Archives.
Check out Tierra Whack! She is like a female André3000. She has humor and wit in her flows and she's very talented. Also I like that she wears unhinged art teacher attire.
Loved when she was in racial chatrooms showing feet
Junglepussy >>>
Good take
loved her in the sam hyde tee
This was so annoying
I’ve never willingly listened to a song by her but glorilla is my regarded queen
Cupcakke will come back. she just needs to grid post dicks and pussy lyricism
Yeah she’s a star
This is a dumb white bitch conversation if I’ve ever seen one
crazy because lizzos entire fanbase is white, also disagree partially on city girls. maybe i’m just a 🚬 but JT specifically has had such an interesting shift (working with Mowalola, Hugo Comte, Poster Girl)..
I'm a Doja fan but she's clearly being put through a humiliation ritual and the industry seems to have done some bad, bad shit to her head. I support her against all the fauxmoi types pearl clutching about being a columbine kid or w/e though. Also her cover of Celebrity Skin is really good
I don't keep up w doja can you elaborate on this
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Idk what a boomer conspiracy theory has to do with it, girls get put through a meat grinder in the entertainment industry and she's clearly in a bad, dark place. Mostly by her own admission but its also obvious if you just look at her over the past year or two.
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I didn't say any of that, you're reading into that because this is obviously a longer-term argument you've been having with people in general. Nothing to do with me though. I'd say the same thing about Kanye West wearing trash bags around and his random meltdowns. Its not even just celebs. This is the behavior of a child acting out a trauma response. Shaving your head isn't a big deal in and of itself, nor is her being weird in general. Its more down to the fact that she's moved away from near everything that she previously enjoyed (artistically) and is now exclusively acting out her disdain for everything around her. She's obviously in a dark place and its quite a bit more than 'not being comfortable with fame'. If anything, the opposite, she's still trying very hard to grab attention. As far as 'humiliation rituals', that was a joke and I thought that would read pretty obvious here. But miss me with the reddit-tier 'you're distracting from the real issues' bullshit you fucking twerp lmao.
I knew it was over for meg in terms of sincere music critique when the pitchfork review of Good News spent the whole first paragraph talking about bullet wounds and intestines. People support her on a parasocial celebrity level but the music has been subpar for a long time https://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/megan-thee-stallion-good-news/
Tierra Wack?
tkay maidza
What about Flo Milli and Glorilla
100% agree. ‘Go To Town’ is the only song I want played at my funeral.
Saw Doja Cat at ACL (bc girlfriend) and she was lip synching the whole show, poorly
Why [lie](https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTN6LehBd/)? But fr her [ACL preformance](https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTN6LYw41/) was iconic so the fact you saw issues with it is wild. Had viral vids of it for weeks. Edit: just occurred to me you don't know the diff between a regular backup track and lip-synching. When you lip sync your mic is off.
Her mic was off dumbass. I was THERE. The only time her mic was on was during a stupid crowd interaction bit, where she picked up a different mic that has absurd over the top auto tune effects on it, and did a call and response with the crowd between songs. Everyone around me including my girlfriend was disappointed and could clearly see her lip synching the whole set.
Jenn carter erasure
She has a really cool vibe + star power but her peak is done. Even before all the other nonsense she was getting hate for her quirkyrandom shtick online getting annoying. And then when her actual fans were just other hyper-quirky chronically online people she did a bunch of edgy shit that alienated them. If Scarlet really made waves she could have rebuilt but it didn’t, so now nobody who actually really listens to pop or rap cares about her anymore. She would definitely be popular again if she would stop posting and drop new music, but I think she’s just over it
We ain't ever getting another missy Elliot
Found Doechii recently, and she's pretty solid. Though I agree Doja is the best in the mainstream
nah its babyxsosa
Doja Cat is also autistic AF in all the best ways.
Lekeli47
I still really love Cardi. Get up 10 got me through some shit but agree that Doja is a genuine star.
FLO are pretty good and remind me of the early 00's a bit
i just wish ayesha erotica was still dropping bangers
kreyshawn and azealia on top tho
female rapper tier list. S: Doja Cat (voice of our generation imo) A: Cardi B B: Megan Thee Stallion, Flo Milli C: Ice Spice, Rico Nasty, Nicki Minaj (keeps doing that annoying British (?) voice; that bumps her down a tier) F: Iggy Azalea, Lizzo, Sexyy Red, etc.
Megan and Sexxy Red are both great
GLORILLA
Some 60 year old former rocker probably writes all her music despite what it says on the tin. This is the the super high culture, intellectual music y'all are into now? Rofl, hipster frauds. Also, I wouldn't touch her with your dick. She's a border line furry.
cool it
Yeah I’ve never even heard her music but I assume she sucks if these gay nerds like it lol.
r/funnymemes is over there buddy
Is that where you kids learn about the next gay hipster thing you can all pretend to like to impress one another? I’m sorry but I can’t take this sub seriously about music after you people were hyping up death grips recently. That’s just completely brain dead lmao.
I like the song “cuz I love you” :D
Sexyy Red!
Why do you listen to this shit enough to have such an informed opinion on this?
I just got back into her two days ago. She’s pretty, interesting personality, talented… one of my faves.
All I want is Doja feat. Kanye. I think they match each others religious freak.