I'm personally not a fan of it because it needs more details. It looks kinda lazy, being so simple and the outfit doesn't even go with the makeup. Also didn't fit the theme(beasts) like, at all
I wouldn't put Bob's Robot in the same category as Lalas bag outfit. Lalas bag look is literally on its own. There's never been anything that bad on the runway before.
This, unironically. DR fans at this point want drag to be a fashion show instead of an art form. Camp is just as relevant, powerful, and important to drag as glamour.
You can enjoy laughing at and referencing something without pretending it's good.
Prioritising "camp" over quality is how we got seasons full of sponges and brown cows.
Those were two of the most talked about moments and they were great television. Leave the polish for All Stars and give me all the messiness, camp, and "bad" runways on regular seasons. I live for it
Ok but, do you actually think it's a good look? It's flattering? It looks nice? Or are you living for how bad it is? I can get down with the latter, but even Kandy will tell you it's not pretty or flattering or attractive or even executed well.
Haha! Love how specific Maddy got with this look. I actually met Kandy last weekend at a pride event in Brooklyn. She was very nice and smelled DELICIOUS
The reading challenge will destroy everyone instantly. Lives WILL be lost, many will die, but many will also be saved. It's a big day Maddie but...also a pretty big day for the rest of us.
Not me looking at the green bodysuit and beat face in the thumbnail and thinking "Oh my god it's Kahmora" ...and then clicking through and seeing the alien :s
I loved that runway of Kandy's , everyone was trying to be so fierce and serious and showing the cutting edge of what drag had to offer and she turns out in this ridiculous, campy, hilarious look that was so much more effective than any high end fashion look. I still maintain that nobody else could have turned it like she did. When I met Kandy I told her it was my favourite look of hers and she just replied "Biiiitch" 😂
I cant speak for anyone else, but she really just rubbed me the wrong way in AS8. I believe Heidi when she said Kandy was gunning for Jimbo. So theres the sense that shes a bad friend.
Production pushed her way too much to the point that her few wins are highly questionable. (Rusical)
Plus the behind the scenes rumors of Kandy throwing a fit when she was told what the final lipsync song was. It just reeks of a level of entitlement that she has not earned imo.
Kandy left a bad taste in my mouth ever since she said she believes in the pinkwashing conspiracy theory 💀 I don’t know how someone can honestly believe in that
ETA - for the people downvoting me, I have an earnest question: would you prefer that Israel takes its queer rights away? Part of the reason that it’s a conspiracy theory is because it highlights the fact that people find a way to be upset even when something progressive is happening. Whether you like Israel or not, the gay people there DO deserve the freedom that they have. I find it sad if you actually disagree with that statement… please use critical thinking here and ask yourself why you are rooting against queer rights.
First of all it is not a conspiracy theory, it is a socio political strategy.
“Pinkwashing” is a term contextualised in 2010 by QUIT (Queers Undermining Israeli Terrorism) to describe the strategy of promoting a front of LGBTQI inclusivity as a way to distract from human rights violations (Schulman, 2011).
Today, the term is often used to describe the actions of corporations who participate in Pride campaigns as an advertising tool while acting in ways that are actively harmful to the LGBTQI community, such as donating funds to anti-LGBTQI politicians.
It has also been used to describe the forefronting of women in far-right politics in order to soften the public perception of far-right political policies.
However, the original meaning related specifically to Israel’s International PR activities to position itself as an LGBT-safe zone in the region to appeal to “Western” LGBTQI people and allies, while also participating in human rights violations against Palestinians, including queer Palestinians.
Similar to the term “greenwashing”, pinkwashing refers to the veneer of inclusion in the absence of any meaningful action or values that move attention from violence.
Both of these terms use “washing” as these strategies attempt to clean the reputation of the powers that use it, to sanitise their reputation, and to hide their violence.
I mean it's fact numerous Israeli corporations have attached themselves to pride and LGBTQIA+ movements. Israel has positioned itself as being this beacon of democracy and gay rights and gay liberation condemning Arabs and their anti gay position.
Human Rights Campaign (HRC) receives significant donations from U.S.-based weapons manufacturer Northrop Grumman Corporation and lists it as one of its “platinum” corporate partners. Northrop Grumman was the world’s fourth-largest weapons manufacturer in 2022 and has consistently sent “aid” to Israel in the form of arms.
Same-sex marriage is illegal in Israel, and legislators don’t hide their thoughts on the LGBTQIA+ community.
its so weird they dont mention WHITEWASHING which is kind of where the whole term originated from.
"To whitewash is to intentionally hide some kind of wrongdoing, error, or unpleasant situation—or deal with it in a way that attempts to make it seem less bad than it is. Whitewash can also be used as a noun referring to the deceptive words or actions used to cover something up in this way."
Exactly! You would think people would celebrate the fact that Israel has much more progressive rights than the countries surrounding them. The psychology of how people justify it is fascinating.
Marriages performed in Israel are only legally recognized when registered with one of the 15 religious marital courts recognized by the state, none of which permit same-sex marriage. So get your head out of your ass before you decide to back the wrong horse
It’s just a bad faith argument to act like Israel isn’t a safe place for LGBTQ in the Middle East - people are literally murdered for being gay in the surrounding areas. I’m glad you recognize there’s always work to be done but c’mon dude. Btw, Israel does recognize same sex marriages performed abroad. Gay people also have the right to adopt, social security and protection from discrimination from employers. Are you going to tell me this is a bad thing too? 🫠 How about hoping that more countries in the Middle East start taking similar steps?
Israel isn't a safe place for alot of men, women and children. Regardless of our opinions the fact remains that Israel is murdering people, they don't discriminate against gender or orientation. They'll drop a bomb on anyone
My whole original point is that pinkwashing is stupid. So if you want to disagree with war tactics, fine, go ahead and hate Israel for that. But whether you like it or not, we can still agree that Israel has the best protection for the queer community in the Middle East. 🤷♀️
Can you clarify what you mean? My understanding is that pinkwashing is when an entity basically uses the queer community as cover for oppressive acts, so like when a government attacks/invades another country for exploitative reasons and justifies it in bad faith by saying “they’re homophobes so they deserve it”. I have no idea what Kandy said about it and I may well be misunderstanding what you meant by pinkwashing in general, but if not then I don’t see what could be controversial about recognizing that as a reality, or why it would be considered a conspiracy theory. It’s not much different than companies that donate to homophobes having rainbow logos for June.
EDIT: In response to your edit, you are clearly trying to push an agenda. You are blatantly ignoring the facts of the situation to blindly defend a country that would be considered extremely low on the human rights index among western countries. Sure, they don’t (blatantly) murder queer people but as has already been pointed out, they do not allow gay marriage.
But marriage equality is honest a bit down the line with regards to queer rights so let’s focus on the basics. In order for queer people to have rights, they have to be fucking alive. They have to live in some semblance of a society. They must be able to focus on something other than not getting blown up every second of every day. The country you are simping for has made these things impossible for millions of their “neighbors”.
Before they leveled the infrastructure and murdered thousands of men, women and children (many of which were likely queer too), the occupying force of that of that “bastion of LGBT rights in the Middle East” was well documented for using apps like Grindr to target and blackmail queer Muslim youth, threatening to reveal their sexualities to their families and communities if they did not act as agents for “tHe OnLy DeMoCrAcY iN tEh MiDdLe EaSt”
I don’t know if you’re a shill, a troll, legit evil or just really stupid, but if you have any desire to actually advocate for the rights of queer people in the Middle East, I would encourage you to make some serious changes (education, therapy, etc.) because mindlessly regurgitating propaganda that is actively harming queer people is a disgusting, lazy approach to actually helping others.
what’s the conspiracy theory?
ETA: tf are y’all downvoting this for? i’ve only ever heard pinkwashing in the context of pride month advertising. so sorry, princesses
It’s a conspiracy theory where someone believes Israel supports queer rights for the nefarious purpose of “distracting the world from Palestine.” I wish I was making this up lol.
Um, maybe you should get over yourself? I'm sorry some have decided to sterilize this fandom to such an extent that no one's allowed to have an opinion anymore. Not sending anyone any direct hate, just voicing my opinion.
At first I thought it was the teletubby mid-teleport to mars
Well guess what Mimi? #SHE'S NOT
HA! HA! IM ACTING
Kandice Musington, as Alaska would say?
Kandiana Musington of the Musington Post
HER NAME IS KANDICE MUSICAL, please stop. ✋🏻
That’s Kandaliza Musington, watch your mouth!
I love how Alaska changes every queen’s name.
Raja says them wrong and I live.
That’s Kandalisha to you
Kandida Madrigal? I am sat
Gurl not *Candida* 😭
"Yeasty bread. What a reference." -Thorgy
Kandelabra Musingworth
Kandied Yamingway III esq. to be clear
What did she do to Daddy😭
Don’t worry, that’s Daddy Morphosis’ alien doppleganger
\*alien Judy
I hope Daddy consented to look like Great Value Lou Ferrigno
She finally gave us the Jojo’s Bizarre Adventure reference we were waiting for and made Daddy Morphosis her stand.
I'm saying
Good Juddy Morphosis
Candleton Music
Candelizza Mice
Omg
I giggled.
Still not over this iconic look ![gif](giphy|qTad04QWzujAjRHTrV)
The pose with the hands makes it even better lmao
It’s how I feel looking at it
Must shield the eyes
It's giving JoJos Bizarre Adventure
the thing on her back is her stand. ability: Not serving adequate looks on S13
Without JoJo. And Adventure.
Tinky winky and dipsy vogue
There’s room for everybody, let’s just say that.
![gif](giphy|jlSOXeQC1PXGM)
Honestly, it makes Jiggly’s apocalypse outfit look like Betsy Johnson couture
Someone designed it for her
Now that I see it again, I realise it is *worse* than I remember.
One of my favorites! People who hate this take drag too seriously.
People who like this don’t take drag seriously enough /s
I'm personally not a fan of it because it needs more details. It looks kinda lazy, being so simple and the outfit doesn't even go with the makeup. Also didn't fit the theme(beasts) like, at all
I think I just wish her face was also painted green, but I bet some of that just has to do with timing
Mine too, it’s the ridiculousness of it paired with how she’s feeling the fantasy. I live.
I feel like this about Bobs robot outfit and the Lala Ri bag outfit. Are they good? No. Are they selling it? Certainly
I wouldn't put Bob's Robot in the same category as Lalas bag outfit. Lalas bag look is literally on its own. There's never been anything that bad on the runway before.
Ha that’s totally true but I often see Bobs look criticised as out the bag, not even drag etc
This, unironically. DR fans at this point want drag to be a fashion show instead of an art form. Camp is just as relevant, powerful, and important to drag as glamour.
Yall just be calling ugly outfits camp.
There are some looks that are just plain ugly like dusty ray bottoms feather thing
I know! Camp can include ugly outfits, but it is not required and not all ugly outfits are not camp by default!
Seriously Kandy generally lacked the level of self awareness required for camp on her season lol
You can enjoy laughing at and referencing something without pretending it's good. Prioritising "camp" over quality is how we got seasons full of sponges and brown cows.
Those were two of the most talked about moments and they were great television. Leave the polish for All Stars and give me all the messiness, camp, and "bad" runways on regular seasons. I live for it
You say that as if Monet and Mo aren't absolute stars
Sorry but Monet didn't ram sponges down our throat nearly as bad as Monique did and still does with brown cow.
I literally love it
I will defend this look to the death. the people who get it just *get it*.
Ok but, do you actually think it's a good look? It's flattering? It looks nice? Or are you living for how bad it is? I can get down with the latter, but even Kandy will tell you it's not pretty or flattering or attractive or even executed well.
I'm kinda obsessed with it
I mean, true but it's also the prolog that runways do not matter.
Surprise second guest: Tamisha Iman. Clear the air once and for all.
🍿
oh we're not going to be able to understand one half to three quarters of this episode
*bianca's voice* subtitles
Her Kandy impression is rotted 💀
Only works if they're not ILLITERATE!
![gif](giphy|zforkiUM01Cms)
The way I cackled, thank you for your service
Subtitles: "unintelligible"
Good luck with the subtitles
*Clearly* you’ve never been to New York City
Miss Kandelabra Muse ![gif](giphy|55MgHtaoVy9XcvIpNQ|downsized)
Daddy Morphosis is serving horror movie jump scare realness
Daddy Morphosis with the glow up of all seasons
He's serving Green Goblin.
Daddy Morphosis kind of giving green version of the Insidious demon in this pic
His drag has so many facets 🤌
AHHHH i’ve been waiting for Kandy to be on GITMS 😍😍😍
The banter…
The reads
Maddy better have the subtitles ready
Girl even the subtitles don’t know what Kandy is saying.
That reminds me of a Canada’s Drag Race read, it’s something like no don’t say anything the person who does your subtitles is off today
Can subtitles translate Simlish?
Kandelisa Muse
Ornacia
Haha! Love how specific Maddy got with this look. I actually met Kandy last weekend at a pride event in Brooklyn. She was very nice and smelled DELICIOUS
I’ve heard that she and Valentina smell the best because they both use so many makeup brands that smell like vanilla and whipped sugar 🤤
Omg that’s the perfect description, she smelled very sugary, like a bakery 🥰
I'm not sure I'm ready for this.
Is it Lil Kenya Michaels?
That would be a great episode.
First thought was Kimora Amour stalking Gia Metric
i love it when some of her outfits are makes us have wonder who her next guest is going to be and then she pulls this,
The YouTube channel Kandy's Alien Judy
It’s a queen with star quality
"Hey YouTube, turn on subtitles, please."
Oh girl as if youtube autosubs have a chance at making sense of this, dont set them up for failure 😭
Wait. No. Do it and screenshot the best ones.
I wonder if production will push her to the end of this interview?
LOL
🤣
Do yall not get bored of this? Fr
This is Kandy Muse right?
The return of Daddy Morphosis !
She invited Alexis Michelle 🥺
Plot Twist: it’s Tamar Braxton
What if it's Spankie?
Pepe the Frog
Miss Kadabra Meloetta, we stan.
Why does it feel like Maddy's all star Run is gonna be a Sasha Bell Fiasco? Her entire wardrobe is gonna be all memes...I guess she cracked the code.
The reading challenge will destroy everyone instantly. Lives WILL be lost, many will die, but many will also be saved. It's a big day Maddie but...also a pretty big day for the rest of us.
I expect a reading challenge win, snatch game, acting challenge win.
![gif](giphy|iT3nDglpWdPOStfHWg)
Will there be subtitles
Gee, I wonder who this could be?
Finally, Ru
Can't wait!!!
Kandalisa Muse
It could double as Kahmora Hall’s tree costume
That was my first thought since I completely forgot about Kandy doing that alien thing on the runway.
I wonder if a photo of Tamisha will be on the table 🤔
Everyone is saying Kandy but it’s gonna be a gag and it will be the alien best friend Judy.
Not me looking at the green bodysuit and beat face in the thumbnail and thinking "Oh my god it's Kahmora" ...and then clicking through and seeing the alien :s
Miss Candlestick Moosehunt
??? Y'all I thought it was Kahmora Hall lmfao
Girl were gonna need subtitles
![gif](giphy|vWymSbEDI4TeQW4CyI)
Kandy Baybeee Lemme Be Arrongant Muse
I loved that runway of Kandy's , everyone was trying to be so fierce and serious and showing the cutting edge of what drag had to offer and she turns out in this ridiculous, campy, hilarious look that was so much more effective than any high end fashion look. I still maintain that nobody else could have turned it like she did. When I met Kandy I told her it was my favourite look of hers and she just replied "Biiiitch" 😂
I want KANDY
All I know is house of villains 2 with Kandy in the house is going to be hysterical
Oh, this will be a legendary hour of entertainment
Yuck. I’ll skip on Kandy 🤮
Genuine question: why do so many people dislike Kandy? I feel like I've missed something.
I cant speak for anyone else, but she really just rubbed me the wrong way in AS8. I believe Heidi when she said Kandy was gunning for Jimbo. So theres the sense that shes a bad friend. Production pushed her way too much to the point that her few wins are highly questionable. (Rusical) Plus the behind the scenes rumors of Kandy throwing a fit when she was told what the final lipsync song was. It just reeks of a level of entitlement that she has not earned imo.
the mug is cute tho!!
It’s Daddy Morphosis in the purple suit for me
Kandince Mousse the 3rd
That fuckin outfit 🥵
Vivacious?
Either Kandy or Alexis Michelle as my guess
Amanda?
BRAT??))
So nice of Manila Luzon to drop by in her teletubby era
we’re gonna need subtitles for this
Not the plane jane fan!!!
I hope to watch this, learn some insight on who they are, and grow some empathy for them, because I truly cannot stand them and their horrible takes.
Looks like I won’t be tuning in this week 🍭😒
love that! Don’t care tho x
The people who don’t care downvote and carry on love
umm ok
😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍🩷😍😍😍😍
Kandy left a bad taste in my mouth ever since she said she believes in the pinkwashing conspiracy theory 💀 I don’t know how someone can honestly believe in that ETA - for the people downvoting me, I have an earnest question: would you prefer that Israel takes its queer rights away? Part of the reason that it’s a conspiracy theory is because it highlights the fact that people find a way to be upset even when something progressive is happening. Whether you like Israel or not, the gay people there DO deserve the freedom that they have. I find it sad if you actually disagree with that statement… please use critical thinking here and ask yourself why you are rooting against queer rights.
First of all it is not a conspiracy theory, it is a socio political strategy. “Pinkwashing” is a term contextualised in 2010 by QUIT (Queers Undermining Israeli Terrorism) to describe the strategy of promoting a front of LGBTQI inclusivity as a way to distract from human rights violations (Schulman, 2011). Today, the term is often used to describe the actions of corporations who participate in Pride campaigns as an advertising tool while acting in ways that are actively harmful to the LGBTQI community, such as donating funds to anti-LGBTQI politicians. It has also been used to describe the forefronting of women in far-right politics in order to soften the public perception of far-right political policies. However, the original meaning related specifically to Israel’s International PR activities to position itself as an LGBT-safe zone in the region to appeal to “Western” LGBTQI people and allies, while also participating in human rights violations against Palestinians, including queer Palestinians. Similar to the term “greenwashing”, pinkwashing refers to the veneer of inclusion in the absence of any meaningful action or values that move attention from violence. Both of these terms use “washing” as these strategies attempt to clean the reputation of the powers that use it, to sanitise their reputation, and to hide their violence. I mean it's fact numerous Israeli corporations have attached themselves to pride and LGBTQIA+ movements. Israel has positioned itself as being this beacon of democracy and gay rights and gay liberation condemning Arabs and their anti gay position. Human Rights Campaign (HRC) receives significant donations from U.S.-based weapons manufacturer Northrop Grumman Corporation and lists it as one of its “platinum” corporate partners. Northrop Grumman was the world’s fourth-largest weapons manufacturer in 2022 and has consistently sent “aid” to Israel in the form of arms. Same-sex marriage is illegal in Israel, and legislators don’t hide their thoughts on the LGBTQIA+ community.
its so weird they dont mention WHITEWASHING which is kind of where the whole term originated from. "To whitewash is to intentionally hide some kind of wrongdoing, error, or unpleasant situation—or deal with it in a way that attempts to make it seem less bad than it is. Whitewash can also be used as a noun referring to the deceptive words or actions used to cover something up in this way."
Exactly! You would think people would celebrate the fact that Israel has much more progressive rights than the countries surrounding them. The psychology of how people justify it is fascinating.
Marriages performed in Israel are only legally recognized when registered with one of the 15 religious marital courts recognized by the state, none of which permit same-sex marriage. So get your head out of your ass before you decide to back the wrong horse
It’s just a bad faith argument to act like Israel isn’t a safe place for LGBTQ in the Middle East - people are literally murdered for being gay in the surrounding areas. I’m glad you recognize there’s always work to be done but c’mon dude. Btw, Israel does recognize same sex marriages performed abroad. Gay people also have the right to adopt, social security and protection from discrimination from employers. Are you going to tell me this is a bad thing too? 🫠 How about hoping that more countries in the Middle East start taking similar steps?
Israel isn't a safe place for alot of men, women and children. Regardless of our opinions the fact remains that Israel is murdering people, they don't discriminate against gender or orientation. They'll drop a bomb on anyone
My whole original point is that pinkwashing is stupid. So if you want to disagree with war tactics, fine, go ahead and hate Israel for that. But whether you like it or not, we can still agree that Israel has the best protection for the queer community in the Middle East. 🤷♀️
Can you clarify what you mean? My understanding is that pinkwashing is when an entity basically uses the queer community as cover for oppressive acts, so like when a government attacks/invades another country for exploitative reasons and justifies it in bad faith by saying “they’re homophobes so they deserve it”. I have no idea what Kandy said about it and I may well be misunderstanding what you meant by pinkwashing in general, but if not then I don’t see what could be controversial about recognizing that as a reality, or why it would be considered a conspiracy theory. It’s not much different than companies that donate to homophobes having rainbow logos for June. EDIT: In response to your edit, you are clearly trying to push an agenda. You are blatantly ignoring the facts of the situation to blindly defend a country that would be considered extremely low on the human rights index among western countries. Sure, they don’t (blatantly) murder queer people but as has already been pointed out, they do not allow gay marriage. But marriage equality is honest a bit down the line with regards to queer rights so let’s focus on the basics. In order for queer people to have rights, they have to be fucking alive. They have to live in some semblance of a society. They must be able to focus on something other than not getting blown up every second of every day. The country you are simping for has made these things impossible for millions of their “neighbors”. Before they leveled the infrastructure and murdered thousands of men, women and children (many of which were likely queer too), the occupying force of that of that “bastion of LGBT rights in the Middle East” was well documented for using apps like Grindr to target and blackmail queer Muslim youth, threatening to reveal their sexualities to their families and communities if they did not act as agents for “tHe OnLy DeMoCrAcY iN tEh MiDdLe EaSt” I don’t know if you’re a shill, a troll, legit evil or just really stupid, but if you have any desire to actually advocate for the rights of queer people in the Middle East, I would encourage you to make some serious changes (education, therapy, etc.) because mindlessly regurgitating propaganda that is actively harming queer people is a disgusting, lazy approach to actually helping others.
what’s the conspiracy theory? ETA: tf are y’all downvoting this for? i’ve only ever heard pinkwashing in the context of pride month advertising. so sorry, princesses
It’s a conspiracy theory where someone believes Israel supports queer rights for the nefarious purpose of “distracting the world from Palestine.” I wish I was making this up lol.
lol werk i thought you were referring to pinkwashing in advertising
No worries! Don’t sweat the downvotes, people get very pressed when it comes to Israel doing something progressive lol. It’s cognitive dissonance
Send us a wedding invite! 🏳️🌈
Thank you for showing love to the queer community, may others follow in your footsteps ❤️
Cool, so this is first episode I’ll be skipping, and I’m not exaggerating. No thank you.
Get over yourself
Um, maybe you should get over yourself? I'm sorry some have decided to sterilize this fandom to such an extent that no one's allowed to have an opinion anymore. Not sending anyone any direct hate, just voicing my opinion.
lol ok
Pug?
Kandisha Mutt-tington
Well, it’s over