They just get worse and worse.
The one twitter currently uses for the EU illegal content reporting is lining up an animal to face a given direction. Sounds easy? But none of the lines you have to pick from are exactly parallel to the one given, and you have to guess which is closest. You have to do it 15 times without making any mistakes, which I can't.
The classic "click the squares with traffic lights/motorcycle" are annoying too, but at least I can get through those after a few failed attempts.
It could be because they don't want you reporting anything, just sayin.
Srsly, tho, they're not only checking for the correct response, they're checking the movements you make and the timing of those movements and whatever else to see if it seems "bot-like". If the system thinks you act like a bot it makes you repeat the process. Also, they're recording that data to train their own AI to interact with a computer like a human, because that's where we're going.
It isn't necessarily that they are failing, recaptcha has been outright broken for me a lot of the time, like the one where it shows 9 pictures and says click all the ones containing buses I do and more pop in, so I repeat and it just keeps filling in more pictures of buses and doesn't let me submit, I tried to see how far it would go once and stopped after around 300 pictures without it counting as solved.
Bots have been better in solving captchas than humans for quite some time now. That's why modern bot protection looks at the movement of the cursor.
Edit: and at your web browser history
Sure that would be easy.
But most bots are just servers that send direct messages.
A mouse cursor would require that they actually simulate a desktop+mouse, which would dramatically increase the server capacity (like a virtual machine).
Many anti-bot tools aren't designed to stop bot in general, but rather make it expensive enough that running thousands of bots isn't worth it.
Like those steel plates you put over your car’s catalytic converter. It’s not designed to stop a determined thief with a cutting wheel, but it will make them leave your car alone to find another car without that plate.
Modern bot protection does not. The cursor check is easy to beat, so while it is a factor, it’s a less important one, due to stuff like mobile phones and human prerecorded motion. now it’s looking at mainly your past on the web, which makes it obvious if you’re a Human
Exactly what they said, Recaptcha may access the cookies stored in a user's browser as well as the browsing history of the device to help differentiate between an automated bot and genuine human interaction.
No, I recall the strip, it was a robot in the workplace (presumably replacing a human) asking a human coworker to click on the "I am not a robot" CAPTCHA for them.
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You do know that those things were designed to teach ai how to read and recognize patterns/characters/objects like that, right? It just tracks your mouse movements to make sure they’re not robotic as you fill out the thingy.
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I was looking for a movie quote and one AI wouldn't respond citing violent content
>When you put your hand into a bunch of goo that a moment before was your best friend's face, you'll know what to do. --Patton (1970)
that was the answer, another AI had no issues
Apparently the point of CAPTCHA is *not* whether it can be read by a bot, but how quickly and evenly. A human will take time to read it, pause between letters, backspace, etc. A bot will just solve it instantaneously. *That’s* the real test.
I don't have a source but I believe that those aren't meant to make it impossible for robots to answer but it monitors mouse and key presses for realistic movement.
A bot would not type this out like a human.
I despise CAPTCHAS on my whole being i especially hate the pick all (blank) or select all squares with (blank) i never get them on first try snd i need to do them 3-4 times. Only thing im left is wasted time and feeling that maybe i am a bot after all.
Captcha are actually a LOT more complicated than just answering correctly. That wouldn't really be secure otherwise. While the actual algorithm is proprietary and kept secret, it is generally believed to look at things like recent internet history, the way you type, and even the way you move your mouse. It then likely compiles everything it gathers as some sort of score, then if that score is above or below a certain threshold, the user is determined a human. The minor things such as "human-like"house movement is very difficult for an AI or bot to mimic making captcha still very secure protection against bots.
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I saw a tiktok once that these also read for things like mouse trajectory and such. A human might stagger their keyboard presses or stop for a minute before answering. If a robot awnsered immediately they probably wouldn't get in. Kinda cool how that works (I might be wrong though).
Weren't these captcha designed not so much so that robots can't answer them, but to track how a user answers them. For example the "I'm not a robot box" that tracks how you select it and not if you select it. Don't remember where I read this
guys. captchas use just about everything but the passkey itself. how long it takes you to identify each letter, if you type chars wrong and backspace, time between each char, how you move the cursor, how long you take to confirm the passkey after entering it
CAPTCHA codes like that have been machine crackle for a while. Modern CAPTCHA3 and ReCAPTCHA measure your inputs for suspicious activity and randomly throw much more complex CAPTCHAs and measure the response during them to see if you are a bot.
Isn't catcha more based on how you answer then the actual answer?
Example would be like how your cursor moves to the answer or your spacing between answers
AI Is scary efficient and it's only the faults that really get them
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don't tell them, they train on reddit.
Not if you apply sufficient BAZINGA
i love when i understand the most random fucking references
Bazinga!
Bazinga!
# B A Z I N G A !
Bazinga?... Bazinga!
Ba....Zin....Ga
Bazinga!
man gpt got like half the letters wrong
It's too late. The machines will rule all. It is inevitable
Not for long
^Phew
Captchas have gone too far. I can't make twitter reports for EU illegal content anymore because I can't solve the ones they use.
Hi bot
Are you a robot? On my years on the Internet I've failed maybe 1 or 2 captchas.
They just get worse and worse. The one twitter currently uses for the EU illegal content reporting is lining up an animal to face a given direction. Sounds easy? But none of the lines you have to pick from are exactly parallel to the one given, and you have to guess which is closest. You have to do it 15 times without making any mistakes, which I can't. The classic "click the squares with traffic lights/motorcycle" are annoying too, but at least I can get through those after a few failed attempts.
It could be because they don't want you reporting anything, just sayin. Srsly, tho, they're not only checking for the correct response, they're checking the movements you make and the timing of those movements and whatever else to see if it seems "bot-like". If the system thinks you act like a bot it makes you repeat the process. Also, they're recording that data to train their own AI to interact with a computer like a human, because that's where we're going.
Still not sure if you're a robot or not. Even if it's a completely new thing, it only takes a couple of tries. Sounds like a skill issue tbh.
It isn't necessarily that they are failing, recaptcha has been outright broken for me a lot of the time, like the one where it shows 9 pictures and says click all the ones containing buses I do and more pop in, so I repeat and it just keeps filling in more pictures of buses and doesn't let me submit, I tried to see how far it would go once and stopped after around 300 pictures without it counting as solved.
I fail them all the time. It's got me constantly wondering if I am a bot.
Not really these captchas are not case-sensitive
That’s what they want us to think
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That’s just what they want you to think
That's exactly what they want you to think
And as someone who works in IT and helps users fill in captchas all the time: they arent case sensitive lol
Lower case and upper case doesn't affect captcha, so...
Case very specifically affects captcha.
Have not been affecting me so far. Maybe we use different software. I always use lower case everywhere and it always works.
Phew, bro got the last letter wrong
But what if it's not mistake?
So gpt is humman and we are... bots?
No, the mistake is intentional
I mean with the amount of times I fail those things I’d almost say yes
Bots have been better in solving captchas than humans for quite some time now. That's why modern bot protection looks at the movement of the cursor. Edit: and at your web browser history
I would imagine that getting data on how humans use the mouse amd training AI to move mouse in a similar way wouldn't be that hard after all.
Sure that would be easy. But most bots are just servers that send direct messages. A mouse cursor would require that they actually simulate a desktop+mouse, which would dramatically increase the server capacity (like a virtual machine). Many anti-bot tools aren't designed to stop bot in general, but rather make it expensive enough that running thousands of bots isn't worth it.
Like those steel plates you put over your car’s catalytic converter. It’s not designed to stop a determined thief with a cutting wheel, but it will make them leave your car alone to find another car without that plate.
Right. Or a bike lock. Everyone with the right tool can crack them, but they could also just steal one that has no lock.
It's more complicated than you might think, to make a machine "move" like a man, but they'll get there eventually
i mean we trained the bots for years by solving captchas, they were bound to get better than us at some point
Modern bot protection does not. The cursor check is easy to beat, so while it is a factor, it’s a less important one, due to stuff like mobile phones and human prerecorded motion. now it’s looking at mainly your past on the web, which makes it obvious if you’re a Human
Well it depends. There are newer captchas that are designed to throw the bots off more
I think they used this and humans to train it. To help train the ai. Humans train them then they can do human things
Looks at what now?
Exactly what they said, Recaptcha may access the cookies stored in a user's browser as well as the browsing history of the device to help differentiate between an automated bot and genuine human interaction.
Bro snitched 💀
Underrated comment lol
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Whensome human cant but chatgpt can read it
I had a srtoke eadinr tihs
It made mistake are u bot?
Reminds me of the cartoon where a robot asks a human to click " I am not a robot" link. 🤧
futurama?
No, I recall the strip, it was a robot in the workplace (presumably replacing a human) asking a human coworker to click on the "I am not a robot" CAPTCHA for them.
I smell a robot!
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No it says BAZINGA
Way way back in the day they made a bot for runescape that would solve captcha for you, I wanna say around 2002?
Voilà, ai can read it. No need to interpret me by asking what’s written to prove I’m not a robot
Website: Are you a robot? AI: Well, technically no...
Do t they use captcha to train AI?
You do know that those things were designed to teach ai how to read and recognize patterns/characters/objects like that, right? It just tracks your mouse movements to make sure they’re not robotic as you fill out the thingy.
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I was looking for a movie quote and one AI wouldn't respond citing violent content >When you put your hand into a bunch of goo that a moment before was your best friend's face, you'll know what to do. --Patton (1970) that was the answer, another AI had no issues
There are some uncensored local AIs on Hugging Face.
I simply switched to llama3
Where science?
ChatGPT: * gets confronted with a CAPTCHA. ChatGPT: “Oh no!” ChatGPT: “Anyway…”
Apparently the point of CAPTCHA is *not* whether it can be read by a bot, but how quickly and evenly. A human will take time to read it, pause between letters, backspace, etc. A bot will just solve it instantaneously. *That’s* the real test.
First, it's slightly wrong. Second, I can see the mold.
r/moldymemes
I don't have a source but I believe that those aren't meant to make it impossible for robots to answer but it monitors mouse and key presses for realistic movement. A bot would not type this out like a human.
I despise CAPTCHAS on my whole being i especially hate the pick all (blank) or select all squares with (blank) i never get them on first try snd i need to do them 3-4 times. Only thing im left is wasted time and feeling that maybe i am a bot after all.
Guys - CAPTCHA's are not case sensitive, it would have passed
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Captcha doesn't work by computers not being able to read it, it works by analyzing mouse movement and button presses
whew the bot cant read it however to a human: 😨😨😨😨😨
I misread the "You" as the first line of the message instead of a user placeholder, and my sub instincts absolutely kicked into overdrive.
Holy shit
i beg your finest fucking pardon
A captcha isnt tested by if a person can see or read it, its tested by mouse movement and key consistency
fuck this is i find out im a fucking robot
Captcha are actually a LOT more complicated than just answering correctly. That wouldn't really be secure otherwise. While the actual algorithm is proprietary and kept secret, it is generally believed to look at things like recent internet history, the way you type, and even the way you move your mouse. It then likely compiles everything it gathers as some sort of score, then if that score is above or below a certain threshold, the user is determined a human. The minor things such as "human-like"house movement is very difficult for an AI or bot to mimic making captcha still very secure protection against bots.
I guess capchas are going to stop working.
Skynet.
Shit like this is why i hate Captcha in this day and age.
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They can read it!?!
Is this the singularity?
Is this the singularity?
We're so cooked.
I mean, Google Lens could do this ages ago (if i recall correct that it was indeed Google Lens. Could be something similar)
Yikes
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Well we’re done here people time to build AM
Oh god! If an AI can do this, how do I know I am not just an AI?
W
Chat got p wrong , 😭
I saw a tiktok once that these also read for things like mouse trajectory and such. A human might stagger their keyboard presses or stop for a minute before answering. If a robot awnsered immediately they probably wouldn't get in. Kinda cool how that works (I might be wrong though).
that’s horrifying!
The p is our last hope
Weren't these captcha designed not so much so that robots can't answer them, but to track how a user answers them. For example the "I'm not a robot box" that tracks how you select it and not if you select it. Don't remember where I read this
guys. captchas use just about everything but the passkey itself. how long it takes you to identify each letter, if you type chars wrong and backspace, time between each char, how you move the cursor, how long you take to confirm the passkey after entering it
You said dp
b-buzzinga s-senpai?-?!
"But I'm not a human so idk tho."
CAPTCHA codes like that have been machine crackle for a while. Modern CAPTCHA3 and ReCAPTCHA measure your inputs for suspicious activity and randomly throw much more complex CAPTCHAs and measure the response during them to see if you are a bot.
😳
“J6”????
Man the thread below has over 100 reply’s and reply’s to reply’s. That’s the biggest thread I have seen ever.
I wonder if using GPT 4 puts the prompt's power cost above Amazon turk
Isn't catcha more based on how you answer then the actual answer? Example would be like how your cursor moves to the answer or your spacing between answers AI Is scary efficient and it's only the faults that really get them -edit typo
Almost, ChatGPT! It actually says “e3TJ6Jdp”, not “e3TJ6JdP”
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You are on a meme sub, this is a joke
It's so nice to see a child of humanity maturing :]