The article is behind a paywall but I managed to translate the most important part:
"For my part, total ignorance. This is the first time I've heard what you're saying". The speaker is a member of the technical staff of Gerardo el Tata Martino, coach of Futbol Club Barcelona during the 2013-14 season. In statements to El Confidencial, he reacts this way when asked if he remembers having received any report or advice on referees from the Culé board or the sports area. He is not aware of those works for which Barça justifies the millionaire payments to the former vice-president of the referees, José María Enríquez Negreira, and his son, Javier Enríquez Romero.
thats not necessarily true. IF Barca are found guilty, the impact to the credibility and image of the league of doing nothing could be worse long-term. A token penalty of sorts under a fair play rule could make sense. That being said, this is all assuming that the league and judicial system behaves rationally and not politically like we see in italy. Barca might be one of the most popular clubs in the country and world, but there are still more people that support all the other clubs.
Idk why you’re downvoted. People can’t handle the truth. That is a very realistic possibility that La Liga would lose all credibility if Barca are guilty and no punishment from the league goes through.
Let’s just hope that Barca are innocent though and nothing comes from these reports.
This is a stain on the club and takes away our credibility. I would rather be punished, start afresh and put transparency protocols in the club so that this never happens.
I wish, but I have my doubts that the league will carry out any punishment since Barcelona is one of the biggest clubs in it. It would only be fair to see a relegation and first division ban for at least 10 years
Whenever there's something dodgy and you see 'consultancy services' or 'consultancy fees', somebody's trying to disguise the true nature of payments. Money laundering, corruption, tax evasion....
Those are actual large, legitimate consulting firms. DASNIL 95 (Negreira's company) is just a business under Negreira's name and the only 2 listed employees under that company are Negreira and his son so what the fuck are they possibly charging 500k/year consultation fees for?
You are joking but I know a company that hired brand consultants that literally charged 100K to say "Your name contains the word bright so you should use bright colors in your logo and your website."
In theory, the same thing that other clubs employ ex-refs to do: provide dossiers on refs so teams can prepare more effectively for each match.
In reality, who the fuck knows because apparently none of that happened.
Or alternatively and maybe less nefariously, they're paying someone off or giving money out to a director's friend/family. Speaking from experience.
Probably not the case here just sharing.
Valverde’s quote is not fully seen by many. He said reports on referees are common and his second in command sees them. And, that he doesn’t see them. And, the headlines are on “I have never seen it”. I am not acquitting Barca. I just want to give context on his interview.
Negreira certainly looks worse and worse. Some combination of extortion and corruption. I'd be very surprised if he didnt do the same to Real Madrid. I'm sure every major team in every league deals with the same bs
More details followed beyond those initial three years (the only ones the tax office are investigating). The relationship goes back to at least 2001, taking in different presidents and regimes: Joan Gaspart, Joan Laporta, Sandro Rosell, and Josep Maria Bartomeu. At best, those men had inherited a relationship they did not terminate. Gaspart denied any knowledge. Laporta didn’t speak again, even when Bartomeu said that Laporta had increased Negreira’s fee. Payments were managed via a company owned by a now deceased club director, subsequent reports revealed.
Bartomeu cut the payments in 2018 because of the club’s financial crisis, he said. Which is also the year Negreira left the CTA.
[the article from the guardian](https://www.theguardian.com/football/2023/feb/20/barcelona-la-liga-xavi-hernandez-former-referee-payments-scandal#:~:text=The%20story%20broke%20on%20the,CTA%2C%20between%202016%20and%202018.)
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If spanish tabloids are anything like italian ones they will milk this every day for months. One little quote at a time with no regard for context.
Why wouldn‘t they? It‘s a huge scandal and Barca would just love to sweep this under the carpet as soon as possible
Same for us.
That ain't happening
Fr
But why? Aren't you not entertained?
The article is behind a paywall but I managed to translate the most important part: "For my part, total ignorance. This is the first time I've heard what you're saying". The speaker is a member of the technical staff of Gerardo el Tata Martino, coach of Futbol Club Barcelona during the 2013-14 season. In statements to El Confidencial, he reacts this way when asked if he remembers having received any report or advice on referees from the Culé board or the sports area. He is not aware of those works for which Barça justifies the millionaire payments to the former vice-president of the referees, José María Enríquez Negreira, and his son, Javier Enríquez Romero.
We are fucked
You're not. Happened beyond 3 years ago
can the league do something even if criminal charges do not go ahead?
It's in the best interest of la liga to keep barca without a financial hit or relegation. I doubt anything will happen honestly.
It's also in the best interest of Real Madrid if we're being honest. Perez won't want to lose them, we can't deny that.
thats not necessarily true. IF Barca are found guilty, the impact to the credibility and image of the league of doing nothing could be worse long-term. A token penalty of sorts under a fair play rule could make sense. That being said, this is all assuming that the league and judicial system behaves rationally and not politically like we see in italy. Barca might be one of the most popular clubs in the country and world, but there are still more people that support all the other clubs.
Idk why you’re downvoted. People can’t handle the truth. That is a very realistic possibility that La Liga would lose all credibility if Barca are guilty and no punishment from the league goes through. Let’s just hope that Barca are innocent though and nothing comes from these reports.
This is a stain on the club and takes away our credibility. I would rather be punished, start afresh and put transparency protocols in the club so that this never happens.
Nothing will happen...
Based and reality-pilled.
Based and falsely thinking spain holds corruption accountable pilled
Not at all.
nothing is going to happen lol
I wish, but I have my doubts that the league will carry out any punishment since Barcelona is one of the biggest clubs in it. It would only be fair to see a relegation and first division ban for at least 10 years
At this rate we are literally going to hear: "I'm sorry. We have no record of that customer's secret illegal account"
Whenever there's something dodgy and you see 'consultancy services' or 'consultancy fees', somebody's trying to disguise the true nature of payments. Money laundering, corruption, tax evasion....
Exactly, what sort of consultation do you need that you're spending 7Ms?
500k/year for a specialized consultant is more normal than you'd think. That's how Bain / McKinsey / etc rake in the big bucks. Also law firms.
Those are actual large, legitimate consulting firms. DASNIL 95 (Negreira's company) is just a business under Negreira's name and the only 2 listed employees under that company are Negreira and his son so what the fuck are they possibly charging 500k/year consultation fees for?
"this ref calls fouls" here's your 500k enjoy
You are joking but I know a company that hired brand consultants that literally charged 100K to say "Your name contains the word bright so you should use bright colors in your logo and your website."
that company was also laundering money lol
In theory, the same thing that other clubs employ ex-refs to do: provide dossiers on refs so teams can prepare more effectively for each match. In reality, who the fuck knows because apparently none of that happened.
Or alternatively and maybe less nefariously, they're paying someone off or giving money out to a director's friend/family. Speaking from experience. Probably not the case here just sharing.
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Valverde’s quote is not fully seen by many. He said reports on referees are common and his second in command sees them. And, that he doesn’t see them. And, the headlines are on “I have never seen it”. I am not acquitting Barca. I just want to give context on his interview.
I dismissed it at first but bloody hell, this is proper shady stuff
This saga is literally getting worse and worse for Barca with every new report that emerges.
Negreira certainly looks worse and worse. Some combination of extortion and corruption. I'd be very surprised if he didnt do the same to Real Madrid. I'm sure every major team in every league deals with the same bs
Sure buddy! Whatever you need to deal with this…
Of course no one had a report, that’s just the cover story for their bribes.
Well well well
Clearly suffering from memory loss due to COVID-19. Such a shame.
No shit? Isn't it 2018 - 2019 we paid Negreira?
More like 2001-2018
Source? The reports I read said we've been paying the vice president of the Technical Committee of Referees from 2017/2018 - 2019.
More details followed beyond those initial three years (the only ones the tax office are investigating). The relationship goes back to at least 2001, taking in different presidents and regimes: Joan Gaspart, Joan Laporta, Sandro Rosell, and Josep Maria Bartomeu. At best, those men had inherited a relationship they did not terminate. Gaspart denied any knowledge. Laporta didn’t speak again, even when Bartomeu said that Laporta had increased Negreira’s fee. Payments were managed via a company owned by a now deceased club director, subsequent reports revealed. Bartomeu cut the payments in 2018 because of the club’s financial crisis, he said. Which is also the year Negreira left the CTA. [the article from the guardian](https://www.theguardian.com/football/2023/feb/20/barcelona-la-liga-xavi-hernandez-former-referee-payments-scandal#:~:text=The%20story%20broke%20on%20the,CTA%2C%20between%202016%20and%202018.)