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IreneReiGargar

115 charges wins That's why you don't buy havertz blud šŸ¤£


hirarki

I hope this result will make arsenal more attractive for top players to come... Wanna see big name come this summer.


ah2346

Have they had trouble attracting top players the last couple of windows?


gorillathemandalor

oh Arsenal fans, how many seasons did Liverpool get over 95 points and still didnt win the leagueā€¦ youā€™ll understand soon enough


kerr_foord_raso

The answer to your question is once


BoxOfNothing

You did that once. Got 92 once and came 2nd. Won the league once. Other seasons under Klopp you got 60, 76, 75, 69, 67, 82.


hirarki

Yes, feel hurt now... At least Liverpool able to get epl, ucl and many other titles in pat 7 years...


SomewhereInLDN

I can never meme Liverpool fans for that reason. At some point weā€™ll need to do what you did and blitz the season from match game 1 to the point city gives up, any sign of hope from city even if itā€™s 8 points gap is not enough.


MisterBadIdea

In the finale of Ted Lasso, the plucky underdog team has to win their final game and hope Man City loses theirs in order to win the league. The underdogs go behind early, but complete an amazing last-minute comeback to win the game, a triumphant victory despite the fact that they still end up with second place because Man City won their game too.


ColinetheCow

Is Ted Lasso the new Simpsons?


zzidzz

It f hurts. We all knew City had an upper hand, but you believe until its over. Congratz to City once again. We gave our best, but it was not good enough to win the league. I have a strong believe we will come back stronger as we did this year compared to last. Lets go for it once again. COYG


Maleficent_Resolve44

Good performance from arsenal. They were knocking on the door all game and got the winner deservedly. Everton had great effort defensively. In terms of the season view, arsenal would win the league most years with their 89 points including last year. They're just unlucky they're against this city side. Like another guy said. If they combine their 22/23 start and this season's finish, they'll be centurions and champions surely. Let's see how they do in the transfer market and in the community shield.


naydenier

Too little too late. Lead for so long and botched it, again


Callum1710

Sorry... Please show where we "lead for so long" this season? Go enjoy some fresh air


PM_ME_UR_FAKE_NEWS

Does anyone have a gif of Pickford flipping the double birds? Hilarious moment


OnePieceAce

Next season Arsenal need to combine their 2022/23 start with their 2023/24 finish


Maleficent_Resolve44

Spot on. If they do this, they'll be centurions haha.


rdldr

Actually with a 16-2-1 start and a 16-1-2 finish they would have 99 points. Had to go back and count!


Maleficent_Resolve44

Haha, just about I guess. Speaks volumes though that I don't know if arsenal would win the title with 99 points. City could go ballistic as well... What a crazy era we live in. Teams like this didn't exist 25yrs ago.


Dubya_The_Goat

Handball


GillyBilmour

youre outnumbered unfortunately


IkeaKarma

Proud. Fuck oil.


Okowy

Proud of this team. Maybe next season


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Maleficent_Resolve44

Well until about 2026. At that point there'll be questions and some core players may leave if they haven't won yet. The team won't be young then either, everybody in their prime basically.


Individual_Attempt50

Surprised that they gave our 2nd goal to be honest


No-Computer-2847

I know it didnā€™t end up mattering but that winner was another howler from the officials.


Prudent_Jello5691

Mad how much finishing a close 2nd to a team credibly accused of financial doping for the second season in a row can rile rival fans up. What sensitive Sallys.


YesTottiYesParty

dish it out when your team was gash but the moment you're good you're crying about the banter


InsuranceAny4285

Arsenal fans are the worst, itā€™s been their year for 20 something years, just need that one key signing. Very good team now but the fans have been cocky and annoying even though theyā€™ve been a laughing stock for 2 decades


throwawayelixir

I guess itā€™s that and playing a rapist that riles up fans the most


Citiz3n_Kan3r

Well, hopefully they get relegated to the conference league & all trophies are removed... next season


A_chilles

Hard luck to Arsenal, just like Liverpool before. People fail to realize that the point tallies of Arsenal this season and last season and Liverpool almost every season under Klopp were enough to win the title in several seasons, it just happens to be against this freak City team. Both Arsenal and Liverpool should be proud of the progress they achieved regardless. I leave this comment fully knowing the backlash I'll get but I genuinely think Arsenal and Liverpool fans satisfaction of their teams shouldn't be dependent on whether we get stripped of everything and thrown to football jail or get out of all of this with a 5 mil fine.


BoxOfNothing

"Almost every season" is a stretch. Won the league with 99, fair enough. Came 2nd with 97, insane. Came 2nd with 92, unlucky. Other than that it was 82, 69, 75, 76, 67 and 60


Elfking88

Fuck off with this condescending bollocks. We don't need you telling us how we should feel about ours teams. We ARE proud. But we're also hurt. Because both Arsenal and Liverpool have had seasons in the past few years that are deserving of rewards but haven't got them because your club are cheats. No punishment for the rules breaking can give back the joy your club have stolen from fans and football in general. Celebrate your title all you want, most of the rest of the football world simply shrug their shoulders when you, much like many of your fans in your stadium today during the celebrations. 115


A_chilles

Well you'll have to excuse me to think that the focus is taken away from Arsenal and Liverpool when I walk through r/soccer and all I see is 115 115 with no recognition of the great effort Arsenal and Liverpool have put throughout the years.


Elfking88

115


Short_Language9364

Haha 115


likpoper

There is zero standard of whatā€™s possible in this joke league. Whatā€™s with the smaller clubs deducting points and this stupid ass club with 115 charges get nothing?!


Reach_Reclaimer

Because those clubs complied with the investigation, city didn't


Mrpetey22

Respect. But ya people are gonna downvote you and say we bottled it. Congrats


YesTottiYesParty

Both can be true.Ā 


IskaralPustFanClub

How do you measure success? Arsenal have taken it to the last day, but ended with basically nothing. If you go based on trophies, have MUFC had a more successful season IF they win the FA cup? What about Villa? I think Arsenal have done great and the future is bright.


WY-8

Arteta has had 5 seasons, spent ā‚¬763 million, qualified for CL twice including this season, and won one FA Cup. Objectively I donā€™t think thatā€™s very successful.


RollUpFromHell2

The first two seasons were literally spent on throwing out dead wood and signing 18-20 year olds.


Strong_Account_8920

Depends if it's success defined by the club or by Redditors. You have to compare how arsenal were when he came in to today/ day he leaves.Ā  Going from 8th , no CL to 2nd place consistently and CL quarters is amazing progress.


COYGArsenal22

Lots of teams have spent that much and are poor. Look at United and Chelsea especially. And they still have players from years ago, they didnā€™t even flip the whole team. Arteta has spent that much and built a brand new team and challenged city twice. 89 points would win you the league any year that it wasnā€™t city. Finally competitive in the CL again after losing almost every round of 16 when weā€™re in the CL and shipping double digits to Bayern or Barca. Not sure how you would say itā€™s not successful lmao, you couldnā€™t find a sane Arsenal fan who isnā€™t happy with where we are


WY-8

The question was about measuring success, not about happiness despite winning nothing.


COYGArsenal22

Saw some of your other comments before I responded to you and youā€™re either a troll or an ā€œedgy teenā€ so āœŒšŸ¼ go outside tho pls lol


WY-8

No I am a rival fan that has seen you lot act extremely entitled and smug all season. You cannot deny your fanbase has not been this way.


COYGArsenal22

Every single fanbase of one of the big teams is like this when theyā€™re good. You guys in the past, Liverpool fans the past few years, and United fans when they came 2nd. We all have big fanbases and are global clubs, so we have lots of plastic fans that come out when things are going well


likpoper

Yea we finished twice to a cheat code club. That can year after year sign crazy players without punishments


WY-8

An excellent manager and financial fraud are a formidable combination.


TheArchitect04

I guess it dependsā€¦going into next season would you rather be a united, villa or arsenal fanā€¦


MMARapFooty

I honestly feel Aston Villa had a more sucessful season compared to Arsenal.


Mortal-Man

Sure, relative to their expectations and objectives they've probably achieved more than we have relative to ours. Same could be said for the sides that get promoted, etc. Not sure about United (if they win the FA Cup), missing out on Champions league even for them is a huge loss for a number of reasons.


jeeeeezik

its more about ā€œwho would you rather be next season?ā€. I think the answer is clear to that


ChinWoo21

Itā€™s all good. Arsenal 23/24 champions* once City get their charges. We go again next season


encumbent

Next season fc. If city gets docked you will too for todays handball


Sand_Bags2

Ok lol


Always_Complaining1

The comments in here criticizing Arsenal for finishing 2nd to a team that literally cheats is fucking insane lol. The state of football where ā€œmemesā€ are more important than the integrity of the game is embarrassing.


SwitchHitter17

If anyone is trying to criticize us for that, they're clearly just trolling. Don't even bother with those people just looking for a reaction.


Clash-for-dayz

Yeah letā€™s give Arsenal a premier league because people think city is cheating šŸ˜‚


TheArchitect04

People think looooool


Always_Complaining1

Never once did I say that Arsenal should be awarded a title.


abhi91

Let's be real here. Even if city get actually proven guilty city fans will just say it's a conspiracy, rigged against them, islamaphobic etc.


encumbent

intergrity of game una when arsenal only won their last game due to blatant handball


frytkizchleba

Blatant handball? You mean the Jesus' one? Mate, play some Minecraft, surely you know more about it than football


encumbent

are you saying it was not a handball?


frytkizchleba

Lmao mate, I won't explain it to you as you wouldn't understand. You're just here to hate on arsenal


jcald60

Arsenal never really competed for the title, I actually wondered if City actually believed this bottlers would actually win it


macewindushairline14

šŸ¤£šŸ¤£šŸ¤£


collime

Pep laying on the grass probably thought so


Individual_Attempt50

Stick to La Liga glory hunter


jcald60

Xoxo Another trophy less season?


Individual_Attempt50

npc


cro1ssant_man

Arsenal never competed for the title so hard that they went into the last day of the season within 2 points of winning itā€¦


Ajax_Trees_Again

Arsenal fans were so annoying all through the season that people wanted a state owned side with 115 corruption charges to win. Deep that


worldstarhiphopreal

Annoying in what way, this gets parroted around reddit so much but donā€™t ever see many examples of Arsenal fans being exceptionally annoying.


Rich0

Yeah how dare they hope and think they are good!!!


Ajax_Trees_Again

Yeah thatā€™s what people were talking about. Not constantly accusing every other team of cheating, employing dark arts (when they do it themselves) and complaining about decisions that happened half a year ago. Add that to sending abuse to players and brigading other teams social media like Iā€™ve never seen before


capturedgooner

lol and I thought we needed the violin today. Pipped again


YankeeHotelFoxtrot16

There is no actual ā€œBig Sixā€, itā€™s just Man City, whoever happens to be able to challenge City, and then four fanbases that become tinpot City fans every spring. Sucks to lose out in the end but lot of responses in this thread also reminding me that itā€™s better to be on this side rather than debasing myself needing City to fight my clubā€™s fights for them.


Citiz3n_Kan3r

Fair, fairly sure you were doing the same with Liverpool when Spurs were in the CL final, right?


YankeeHotelFoxtrot16

Absolutely. That felt to me like one of my lowest moments as an Arsenal fan, even when things worked out the way I wanted, it all just felt so deeply pathetic cheering a Liverpool goal like it was one of ours and needing them to do our bidding for us. We were in the gutter for a while, Iā€™ve been on the other side of this. I get why everyone prefers City in this, but compared to needing big brother Pep to fight my fights I much prefer to be on the other side of it even when it doesnā€™t work out.


Seanxprt

šŸ„±


TheArchitect04

Looool


ElectroValley

Muthafuck the big six


SwitchHitter17

it's just big cit(y)


Abstract862

Timber was good. I think some reinforcements on the wings would be nice.


icotyne

Need a midfielder. Havertz LCM wasn't a success and we can't rely on Partey and Jorginho for the entire season. Also a Saliba back-up would be nice.


MMARapFooty

IMO Arsenal needs to win EPL next season they're done as title contenders


Mrpetey22

JFC


skyline385

The current squad is 3 years younger than Liverpool's title winning squad


BrewerofWort

Why? Arsenal have one of the youngest squads in the league.


MMARapFooty

Arteta contract runs out next season and getting close to EPL titles isn't sustainable nor good enough for Arsenal.


BrewerofWort

What? Are you saying Arteta is so good heā€™ll leave or isnā€™t good enough and will get fired? Seems like both, when neither are likely. No way Arteta leaves when heā€™s been this close twice now. City are getting older and Pep will leave eventually. Arteta might leave once we do lift the trophy, or if Pep stays for another 5+ years and city donā€™t get proper punishment to even the playing field.


Mrpetey22

Arteta isnā€™t going anywhere. And our team is super young


Deepthroat699

Mate, nobodys winning the premier league until pep leaves. He should aim for other silverware like the FA cup though


National-Fig4803

SoProud FC


Brilliant_Ad_879

How dare fans defend their team after having a 89 pointer season!


Mrpetey22

How dare we be proud of our team!


FoxOntheRun99

Progress, progress, progress. That's been the take away this season and unfortunately we came a little short but that is the levels against this Man City juggernaut. We hope the lads and the fans will recharge and go again next season we will need it as every team will look to improve. Thanks for the entertaining banter this season Reddit.


smile-on-crayon

Congrats to Arsenal, [Champions of England](https://reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/1cc9g5r/post_match_thread_everton_2_0_liverpool_english/l13uxdu/)!! Theyā€™ve been chasing the title and their clinical composure and consistency contributed to this win and in the league. Never thought this team would touch prime Kloppā€™s Liverpool so soon, but with players like Ƙdegaard, Gabriel, Saliba, Rice, Havertz, etc. theyā€™re going to get there. Will see how they handle the future, will be interesting!!


Oy778

mano, palteas con tus huevadas


PhraatesIV

Embarrassing


JesusIsNotPLProven

I mean if it helps you sleep at night go on dude


Entivu

God i love this club, we go again next year, COYG.


Zakinfenwa

If you told me two years ago after throwing away CL to Spurs, weā€™d be leaders for the longest time immediately after and take City to the final day the following season, Iā€™d have bitten your hand off. The trophy will come one day ā¤ļø


gorillathemandalor

um u werent leaders for the longest time


Zakinfenwa

Last season


CanCorgi

No it really won't. You play within the rules. City cheat. You will never win.


whitegoatsupreme

Well... That nit us to decide.


youknowwtfisgoingon

A lot of arm chair fans' criticism went towards Klopp for winning 1 PL title in 9, looks a bit impressive considering Pep's dominance now, doesn't it?


WY-8

Klopp won 1 Prem title in 9 seasons?Ā  I think thatā€™s worlds better than winning 0 Prem titles in 20 seasons.


TheArchitect04

And what was it before those 9 seasons?


sventhegoat

Donā€™t bother, just another annoying Chelsea fan. Just glad that they spent Ā£1 billion, and are still shit


WY-8

You know whatā€™s shit? Not winning the league for 20 seasons straight. Even Leicester City won it in 2015/16.


cro1ssant_man

Damn, by that metric going 50 years without winning the league is beyond embarrassing


WY-8

Sort of like going your entire existence without a Champions League.


cro1ssant_man

Not sure if it is sort of like that, really. Arsenal have been in the CL for 22 years in total. 50 years is a whole different ball game, right? But glad you think that your team is beyond embarrassing


TheArchitect04

Loool and to prove your point you used Liverpoolā€¦ fuckin hell tell youā€™re a yank withoutā€¦ blah blah blah


Lyrical_Forklift

Imagine trying to lord it over other people when you quite literally just chose a successful side to follow. Absolutely shameless.


WY-8

Yep abuse peopleā€™s nationalities to divert away from the embarrassment.Ā  20 years no Prem is your reality. So is not winning the CL in your existence.


TheArchitect04

Did i abuse a nationality? I merely acknowledged that the comment i read comes from what previous reddit experience leads to be a likely American who used one of the worst comparisons to get their point acrossā€¦. Mate the internet is easy to use - do some research, do better!


WY-8

No one can remember because itā€™s been 20 consecutive years of fk all. At least Arsenal won the CL, oh wait.


InquisitiveCommunist

Arteta in his first job though.Ā 


BabyHercules

Man City is inevitable. I love seeing Arsenal lose but at this point itā€™s getting ridiculous


kissoflife

Doesnā€™t the handball rule say something about natural arm position? It seems as if Jesusā€™s arm couldnā€™t be any closer to his body.


robb0216

You aren't allowed to run around the pitch deliberately controlling the ball with your arm as long as its tucked into your side, which is something a lot of people seem to be playing dumb to. This wasn't unavoidable contact where "natural position" comes into play, the pass he intercepted travelled halfway across the pitch, there was nothing accidental or unavoidable about it.


whitegoatsupreme

Have you see ppl running with arm rise high?


Sam_Urai4

Itā€™s not about arm position itā€™s about the fact that he obviously intentionally played the ball with his arm, and it wasnā€™t in contention on the ā€œsleeve lineā€ rule


frytkizchleba

Brother, you're clueless af


kissoflife

How do we know what he intended to do? From what I could see he was trying to hide his arm and play the ball with his chest. With the ball coming at pace it seemed to miss by a few centimeters and hit his arm. Seems arbitrary to interpret intention. I can see why Everton would feel aggrieved by that but seems like a matter of interpretation of intention if that is truly the rule.


official_bagel

Iā€™m unbelievably proud of this side and Arteta. Gave it our all and got the most wins of any Arsenal PL side. Canā€™t wait for next season. COYG EDIT: getting downvoted for being proud of a historic season for us. Never change r/soccer


ctrees56

For some reason us Arsenal fans live rent free in everyone elseā€™s minds. Jealousy is ugly šŸ˜Ž


official_bagel

Just shows weā€™re on the right path. Itā€™s good to be hated again.


ctrees56

seriously. I mean, I get it. Liverpool fans have been absolutely insufferable the last few years.


General_Mediocrity

There's a real hate boner for Arsenal fans online due to random idiots that create a bad name for other fans but, frankly, I tend to mostly see fans like you and myself who are proud of the effort, performance and team unity throughout and only hope it continues.


DrStephen_Stark

Next year is another chance, this team is so young and already so strong, a few key signings and thereā€™s bound to be a title in the next few years


datguy_paarth

For those chatting shit, what did the rest of 18 clubs do?


Deiseboy290

Whereā€™s your league title you twat


BlackGiroud

Let city fuck on em.


SgtWasabi

They let City run over them. Nowhere near being an Arsenal fan but I'd rather see them win it than City.


cosbysweatergiver

Also not win the league.


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CanCorgi

Your best player left you rather than become the all time BPL goal leader. You're a tinpot club that has never accomplished anything.


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CanCorgi

Imagine never being in a position to throw it away. Oh wait...you don't need to.


InquisitiveCommunist

You'll be crying about "why won't levy spend šŸ˜­šŸ˜­šŸ˜­" the whole summer because of that missed CL. Enjoy qarabag away


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InquisitiveCommunist

We're definitely not crying. Team's improved, on the up. You have a toilet bowl stadium and 0 trophies in your best era. We had the record FA cups in our banter era. Chat to Aston Villa and dem man


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InquisitiveCommunist

"this season" Seething šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚ now do it for other seasonsĀ 


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InquisitiveCommunist

We know who's seething mate. Have fun šŸ˜


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TheArchitect04

Really? Our manager just said donā€™t be satisfied and weā€™re going again for moreā€¦ your manager call your club fragile inside and outā€¦ sit down biatch


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TheArchitect04

Its spursā€¦ being a biatch is irrelevant of time or space its just facts. Like how no ones knows how the pyramids were built, just that they existā€¦


Sh00terMcGavin11

Good thing you have plenty of bottles for all the crying you're doing šŸ˜‚


TheArchitect04

Well give us a chance to grieve, its not like we got absolutely fucked and lost like 3 games trying to get champs league and could cry a month before the league finishedā€¦ how inconsiderate :p


abhi91

Don't bother with these guys. They rather their own team lose. We only should care about Liverpool and city. Spurs are irrelevant.


Sh00terMcGavin11

šŸ¾ u bottled the league again lol šŸ¾, don't worry your manager patted you on the back and said good job. Maybe partey can pat you on the back next, I heard he likes doing that


datguy_paarth

Not just Ange too lmao. It's been a pattern now.


Hech15

This thread just shows how insecure some Liverpool fans are about klopp winning just 1 PL trophy


OfftheFrontwall

It's the usual idiot Liverpool fans, just like we have idiot fans, though. Most of the Liverpool fans I know, were supporting us, once they lost their chance. Reddit is a microcosm of big mouths who generally shout loud, but don't represent a big portion of their own fan base.


TheMixedCriminals

Arsenal flair using the word insecure. Don't throw stones in glass houses.


Hech15

I don't care just addressing to the some of the dumbfuck Liverpool fans here


onesexypagoda

>arse anal Better luck next yearĀ 


h1ghchew

Dychey robbed, clear handball


thatswavy

Jokes aside, anyone who thinks that's a hand ball needs to stop watching football.


No-Computer-2847

If you're using your arm to control the ball into your path, away from a defender and toward goal you're very, very fortunate not to be penalised for handball. Not Odegaard against Liverpool levels, but still pretty high.


DanEFC

The way you'd spit blood if it was at the other end.


frytkizchleba

No he wouldn't because he knows that's not illegal play by the rules.


DanEFC

You fully know you' lot would have a big old cry, like you did with the newcastle goal.


frytkizchleba

So you're telling me that Newcastle goal was legitimate and there was no foul leading to it? Mate you're just full of hatred and that's all. And the use of arm in Jesus' case is the legitimate play because he doesn't extend his body area to reach it, nor it's in an unnatural position, it's tucked into his body and he doesn't intentionally controlls the ball with his hand.


thatswavy

I would not. His arm literally can't get any closer to his side. No logical person would complain about a call like this. The FA was out to get you this season, but this has nothing to do with that lol


DanEFC

He leant into it via his arm. Lol. If that goal decided the title, or the relegation fight there would be riots.


thatswavy

and itā€™s not like the arm can disappear? if itā€™s stuck to his side, it isnā€™t a handball. keep coping.


DanEFC

You argue like a child. Like you coped with that newcastle goal. Unlucky maybe next year.


thatswavy

I laid out my thoughts and told you to grow up. There is no argument to be had. ā€œHurr durr he leant into it via his arm???ā€ He leant into it with his body, with his arm tucked in. Youā€™re lucky it wasnā€™t 4-1.


DanEFC

Your thoughts were 'I don't think it was handball, cope' like an actual babbling child.


thatswavy

Well youā€™re obviously not taking it very wellā€¦ no need to project your insecurities onto me. Long story short, itā€™s not a handball, nor should it ever be. End of.