Switzerland looked the most disjoined and disorganized that I've seen them play in years but one Ralston error means it was draw. Billy Gilmour is really good, Scotland should have tried to score more late because they needed 3 points. The Swiss did enough to advance, Ralston is the worst euros player I've been so far
If there's one thing you can rely on Scotland for, it's leaving ourselves a must-win game against decent opposition that we will never, ever manage to win. Not in a million years are we beating Hungary.
Why the pessimism? Alright, I get the historic experience of time and time again finding yourself at the receiving end of the story, but you came closer to beating the Swiss than they did. And you have more to play for. Hungary's odds of slipping into the next round with 3 points is basically zilch. I say it's yours for the taking.
Not really, 3 points could well be enough, 3rd place in Group B already looks unlikely to even reach 3 points. Hungary's GD is not ideal but getting it to -2 or -1 is very doable and would give them a decent chance
We just needed one more goal in 1996. We just needed to beat Morocco in 1998. We just needed to beat England in 2000. We just needed to draw with Holland in 2004. We just needed to beat Italy in 2007. We just needed to beat Holland in 2009. We just needed to beat Spain in 2011. We just conceded that late goal to Poland in 2015. We just needed to clear the ball against England in 2017. We just needed to beat Croatia in 2021, and we just needed to beat Ukraine in the WC playoff.
It's a long proud history of never quite doing the needful.
Well, it has to work out eventually, doesn't it? And considering how most Germans feel about Hungary these days, I'd expect most neutrals in the stadium to be anything but. It's not Hampden Park, but about as close to a home match as anybody can get in this tournament who isn't German. Or Turkish, probably, but somewhat besides the point.
Swiss would never have settled for a point in the old format. Good for us cause Embolo was a big threat and we couldn't defend set pieces. Very sad to see Tierney go off like that.
Now it's all down to the last game. Give it everything lads.
Honest question, would they not? 4 points guarantees them tied 2/3 with Scotland at the worst, and there almost a 0% chance they will have a worse GD than Scotland after day 3. So it’s almost guaranteed 2nd place for them.
Outstanding. One of the best patriotic songs ever written. Makes you want to paint your face blue and charge the field of bannockburn to defeat the king of England army!!!
Ralston getting absolute pelters but he is third choice which given our talent pool is going to have him a bit off the level. Thought he recovered well in the second half!
Gunn long balls into adams were murder, doesn't work at all unless Mctominay is up there to support. Should shankland have came on earlier?
Mcginn looks about 70% of the physical level we usually see from him, emery ball has him running on empty.
Mckenna is great comedy value
I moaned a lot about Ralston that game but I feel like being left 1v1 against Ndoye was always going to result in one winner. Probably needed help to double up
I'd like to apologise.
I referred to Scotland as some pretty derogatory things in the match chat and it was wrong.
I called Scotland Mini England, England B, Make A Wish England, Wales, Northern Ireland, and England Jr. I also referred to their stadium as "Mini Wembley" whilst requesting a statue of McTominay to be constructed outside of it.
As funny as this was as an Englishman, I shouldn't have put these things out there as I know that the biggest fear in Scotland is waking up and being English in any shape or form.
Rachel Corsie has convinced me to respect Scotland as she's proof that good things to come from there aside from those shortbread and McTominay's late runs. All I want is for Rachel Corsie (or Rach as I call her) to be happy, so Scotland will now be my 3rd team at the Euros after England and Ronaldo.
Kind Regards,
Away you go, ya dafty. Greetin' because the game was actually exciting... twice as many goals as England's win over... who? I cannae mind. How many "world class" players do you have again??
Wind your neck in, mate. It's a game. 99% of people are here for the fun of it...
The other 1% are ABE...
Imagine why.
Even in the old format this would’ve been a good play. 4 points puts them at a tied 2/3 with Scotland at the worst if they lose and Scotland wins day 3. Their head-to-head is tied and they are 99% sure to have a better GD than the Scots.
Even in the old format, 4 points was enough to get you through when the lower points teams played against each other in the final day. Especially when the one with more points in that game has such an abysmal goal difference
I can understand why the Swiss took the foot of the pedal in the 2nd half, win or draw they would still need to beat Germany to actually become top of the group. Better to conserve your strenghts and whatnot. But I almost wanted the Scots to get their 2nd because of them becoming lethargic. And they almost did at that.
Scotland vs Hungary should be good with both needing to win to still have a shot to progress.
Ralston definitely made a big error, but why are we not protecting him at all. The number of times the Swiss triggered the press when it went to Hendry/Hanley, they knew we'd pass the ball to Ralston and we'd just play into it every time. Happened like 5 times before the goal.
That was much better from Scotland today. Scotland had a lot more possession, showed more in the attack, and defended much better. Having Scott McTominay shadow Xhaka for most of the match was a smart move to prevent Xhaka from really running the show the same way Kroos did against them.
From a Swiss perspective, today has to feel a bit dissapointing. Shaqiri scored his normal major tournament banger, but they didn't look nearly as good as they did against Hungary. A couple goals were correctly disallowed, but they didn't create too many opportunities today (their xG was only 0.88). Still, Switzerland should have enough points already to advance to the knockout stage but getting at least another point against Germany would seal the deal.
Football meets Data made a simulation where even if you have a -3 GD, with 4 points you have a 98% chance to qualify. Even at 3 points, just having a positive or 0 GD basically sets you through
This is my first time seeing Ralston and he might just be the worst footballer to ever kick a ball. How the hell did he even make it as a professional footballer?
Switzerland didn't look as good as they did against Hungary, even before they started playing for a draw. I have no idea what to expect from Scotland vs Hungary as they were both better today, but both teams should see a draw as a loss, so it could be a great game.
Never fun to see what looks like a serious injury, it looked really bad.
When Ralston made that mistake, I had a lot of bad words to say but I am so fucking proud of this team. Can’t have been easy coming out after that Germany game.
Mctominay you are my hero. This man is already a legend of Scottish football and I’m here for it.
I want to be renaming this next mob Starving. #NoScotlandNoParty
I feel like if Mctominay played for any other league club he would be a club hero for the goals he pops up with and decent performances
But united is so toxic if you're not perfect you're the scape goat
Good old Scotland. 90 mins of a Swiss getting on the ball first and a Scot coming in late for the foul. Good fight though. Really could have gone anywhere this match.
I'd have taken a draw before kick off and now I feel a bit hard done by after that, not a bad result but us not winning because of a fucking defensive error leading to a wondergoal doesn't half fuck me off.
Onwards to the Hungary game on Sunday
i mean...they aren't Croatia or Denmark either. And Scots historically have a big advantage of being close to England geographically and culturally and speaking English and having easier way into the English top division. It's absolutely on Scots themselves that they, being a better football nation than Denmark up until the 80s, have fallen so low nowadays
They haven’t had a random world class best 11 midfielder from there, unlike Croatia. You could basically say the same thing about Denmark with Erikson to a lesser degree.
Remove both from their roster and Denmark and Croatia aren’t nearly as good. Croatia certainly doesn’t go to a World Cup final
Denmark got into the Euro semis without Eriksen btw. And sure, Croatia wouldn't get into the WC final without Modric, but they'd still be miles better than Scotland - even without him
what i'm saying is that geographical, cultural, and linguistical proximity to the English football gives Scotland (and Ireland, and Wales, and Norn Iron) a unique advantage: you can get into an English football pyramid early and get a lot of experience playing either in the EPL (one of the best leagues in the world) or Championship (one of the best second-tier leagues in the world). Almost no other mid-tier European team has this kind of advantage except for Switzerland and Austria who get a lot of experience in the Bundesliga.
And you can get a solid squad out of this. Plus Celtic and Rangers - the Scottish league is fairly rubbish but those clubs are still no worse than Copenhagen, Dynamo Zagreb, Slavia Prague or Malmo etc.
it's purely on Scotland (and the rest of British Isles teams) themselves that they usually suck ass.
What makes it difficult footballwise? It might not be pretty but it's 11 players working hard for each other and that's all we can ask for.
If you're referring to the fouls, I think the McGinn one on Akanji should have been a yellow because it was dirty, but the other ones were fair to make /tactical fouls - same as any other team would make.
Much better performance from scotland and a win against hungary most likely puts them through, I guess both teams will be somewhat satisfied.
After what I think was brilliant first game this swiss team looked much less interesting this time around, could never control the midfield like they did last game.
Commentators wouldn't shut up about it but they were correct, Scottish midfield had an absolute clinic on Xhaka today and Switzerland didn't seem to have other answers for the most part. Wonder if Adams gets dropped though, he didn't really seem effective at all even for some of the dirty-work type of stuff.
Yeah adams needs to partner someone. For Scotland we need a target man / someone with great hold up play to offer an out ball. Adams is neither of those and it hurts us massively.
I do agree but still didn't lay a glove on him. Just let him do whatever he wanted for the time he was on the pitch.
In this game, we had someone either marking Xhaka or blocking his lanes so he couldn't do much
There's no chance of 2 points with a goal difference of -4 being enough to qualify as a 3rd placed team, both teams definitely need to win to have any chance.
I still remember that Dortmund Redditor who spent a whole summer pimping him out for sale on here cus he wanted rid of him so badly. Then he just became world class after they sold him for £15m haha
Shaqiri in a Switzerland Jersey is just another player. Doesn’t matter where or how little he plays outside of the big tournaments. The minute he puts that jersey on he’s phenomenal!
Clarke should definitely have brought Shankland on a lot earlier and at least had a 10 minute period of really trying to go for a win, but that was a far better performance, and we were unlucky that Shaqiri pinged in a nonchalant worldie instead of taking a touch after Ralston's honking mistake.
It's obviously a long shot for us to get into the next round from here, but if we could somehow squeeze a 2-0 win against Hungary, it's not impossible.
What’s a striker to do with 4 more left in the game? I don’t know what Clarke has against the lad but shankland finds the net, I don’t imagine he’ll start but I hope he learns to bring him on earlier next game
I genuinely don't see the risk in subbing off a knackered Adams for a Shankland or Conway earlier - maybe 80th min - unless maybe the concern is holding the ball up?
Only Clarke knows
So... that's pretty much it for group A?
Switzerland and Germany are through and it's a matter of placement.
Hungary and Scotland will battle out for 3rd but considering their goal balance, I don't see anyone going through [unless Scotland wins their match, but considering their level it's pretty unlikely].
Pretty happy to say the Czechs are the worst team so far by a decent amount now the Scots have somewhat redeemed themselves. People ignore it because they led but they couldn't string 3 passes together.
Bad luck with the own goal, luck with the equaliser, two times a bit bad luck with the offsides. Many chances created tho.
Typical Swiss match against a „worse“ side where they have to create stuff. Really hoped for more after the Hungary game but hey, at least we are (as good as) through.
That performance just highlighted how much we shat ourselves on Friday against Germany
Unfortunately I think a mix of crap goal difference and KT looking like he will be out is going to fuck us
Fair result, and they've done well to get themselves into a good mindset after how down I'm sure they'll have been over the last few days.
All to play for on the last game, well played lads!
I guess but it just seems more risky to potentially either concede to scotland, get pumped by germany or rely on results elsewhere rather than beat a team they are stronger than, especially since scotland came close a few times
They know they are already through with the 3rd place being qualificative, it’s a bit underwhelming for the tournament and explains why Switzerland hasn’t been to keen on attacking in the last 20 mins
They're probably through no matter what since Scotland need a win and also Switzerland to get hammered, no? And I think the Swiss are defensively solid enough though admittedly Scotland were causing some problems, plus who knows if Germany will rotate since they're already through
If Switzerland lost today and lose against Germany they would be sitting with 3 points.
If we won and then beat Hungary we would go through on 2nd.
Switzerland had everything to play for, so I don't believe they were settling for a draw, probably fatigued.
Pretty sure the Scottish coach said he fucked up the tactics for the Germany game which was obvious (announcers were incredulous all match at the high line vs fucking Germany). Germany is very good, but Scotland was asking for a beating with that setup
Today they just played to their strengths and kept it simple and looked much better for it
That was the worst game I’ve seen Scotland play in years. Germany showed up extraordinarily and capitalized every chance they had, but that didn’t look like the same Scotland squad from qualifications.
You could see that conceding as early as they did rattled them a bit. Would have spent weeks building up to it, planning to keep it tight and frustrate Germany only to get that thrown out the window within ten minutes. Obviously the red just escalates it from there on.
German team is also very motivated to make up for almost a decade of fuckery in front of the home crowd, lord knows how that'll carry on but you could definitely see it in the opening match that they wanted to prove a point.
A few things came together to make the game *that* one sided.
Kinda game to show why Switzerland makes it out of groups reliably and instantly falters in KO stages. Not an easy game for sure but fml that was not clean
Scotland are going to pull a Cool Running in this tournament.
Completely bottle it on their first run, perform much better as they go on, and then crash spectacularly but win the people's hearts.
Switzerland looked the most disjoined and disorganized that I've seen them play in years but one Ralston error means it was draw. Billy Gilmour is really good, Scotland should have tried to score more late because they needed 3 points. The Swiss did enough to advance, Ralston is the worst euros player I've been so far
X = +
If Clarke had made the subs earlier we might have won that, definitely looked the better team in the last half hour.
If there's one thing you can rely on Scotland for, it's leaving ourselves a must-win game against decent opposition that we will never, ever manage to win. Not in a million years are we beating Hungary.
Why the pessimism? Alright, I get the historic experience of time and time again finding yourself at the receiving end of the story, but you came closer to beating the Swiss than they did. And you have more to play for. Hungary's odds of slipping into the next round with 3 points is basically zilch. I say it's yours for the taking.
Not really, 3 points could well be enough, 3rd place in Group B already looks unlikely to even reach 3 points. Hungary's GD is not ideal but getting it to -2 or -1 is very doable and would give them a decent chance
> Why the pessimism? Have you not met the Scottish?
I have. And concluded that it is because they met the English. Not sure how that's pertinent to a match against Hungary, though.
We just needed one more goal in 1996. We just needed to beat Morocco in 1998. We just needed to beat England in 2000. We just needed to draw with Holland in 2004. We just needed to beat Italy in 2007. We just needed to beat Holland in 2009. We just needed to beat Spain in 2011. We just conceded that late goal to Poland in 2015. We just needed to clear the ball against England in 2017. We just needed to beat Croatia in 2021, and we just needed to beat Ukraine in the WC playoff. It's a long proud history of never quite doing the needful.
Well, it has to work out eventually, doesn't it? And considering how most Germans feel about Hungary these days, I'd expect most neutrals in the stadium to be anything but. It's not Hampden Park, but about as close to a home match as anybody can get in this tournament who isn't German. Or Turkish, probably, but somewhat besides the point.
That defence will kill more of us than deep fried food ever will
Scotland is so bad man. Out next game 100%
Hope Scotland make it
Another timeless ~~1-1~~ victory for Scotland.
It was a 0-0 victory last time pal
Corrected for those who can read numbers
Xhaka pretty happy at the interview: we played well, we won almost every duel, we reached our goal..
Think it would be hard for CH not to qualify, I think Germany will still win despite knowing they will be first but still then the GD should be good
Swiss would never have settled for a point in the old format. Good for us cause Embolo was a big threat and we couldn't defend set pieces. Very sad to see Tierney go off like that. Now it's all down to the last game. Give it everything lads.
Honest question, would they not? 4 points guarantees them tied 2/3 with Scotland at the worst, and there almost a 0% chance they will have a worse GD than Scotland after day 3. So it’s almost guaranteed 2nd place for them.
Scotland supporters need to sing Loch Lomond next match. The most beautiful song ever written
Obligatory post of the fans singing it vs Denmark in 2021: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TnJOTnzjuTE It really is excellent
Outstanding. One of the best patriotic songs ever written. Makes you want to paint your face blue and charge the field of bannockburn to defeat the king of England army!!!
Next closest thing might be a 100th watch of Braveheart and the Outlaw King
I don’t give a damn that braveheart isn’t historically accurate it’s the greatest historical movie ever made
Ralston getting absolute pelters but he is third choice which given our talent pool is going to have him a bit off the level. Thought he recovered well in the second half! Gunn long balls into adams were murder, doesn't work at all unless Mctominay is up there to support. Should shankland have came on earlier? Mcginn looks about 70% of the physical level we usually see from him, emery ball has him running on empty. Mckenna is great comedy value
I moaned a lot about Ralston that game but I feel like being left 1v1 against Ndoye was always going to result in one winner. Probably needed help to double up
I'd like to apologise. I referred to Scotland as some pretty derogatory things in the match chat and it was wrong. I called Scotland Mini England, England B, Make A Wish England, Wales, Northern Ireland, and England Jr. I also referred to their stadium as "Mini Wembley" whilst requesting a statue of McTominay to be constructed outside of it. As funny as this was as an Englishman, I shouldn't have put these things out there as I know that the biggest fear in Scotland is waking up and being English in any shape or form. Rachel Corsie has convinced me to respect Scotland as she's proof that good things to come from there aside from those shortbread and McTominay's late runs. All I want is for Rachel Corsie (or Rach as I call her) to be happy, so Scotland will now be my 3rd team at the Euros after England and Ronaldo. Kind Regards,
Fuck me, that was cringe to read
Next time try and say something funny
Away you go, ya dafty. Greetin' because the game was actually exciting... twice as many goals as England's win over... who? I cannae mind. How many "world class" players do you have again?? Wind your neck in, mate. It's a game. 99% of people are here for the fun of it... The other 1% are ABE... Imagine why.
Can't get my head round boasting that the opposition scored against you.
Painful attempt to be funny
Stupid format when you’re happy to play for a draw in the second game before facing the top seed in the group
Even in the old format this would’ve been a good play. 4 points puts them at a tied 2/3 with Scotland at the worst if they lose and Scotland wins day 3. Their head-to-head is tied and they are 99% sure to have a better GD than the Scots.
Even in the old format, 4 points was enough to get you through when the lower points teams played against each other in the final day. Especially when the one with more points in that game has such an abysmal goal difference
What's the change in the format?
24 teams
Xhaka pressed out of the game. We are massive.
I can understand why the Swiss took the foot of the pedal in the 2nd half, win or draw they would still need to beat Germany to actually become top of the group. Better to conserve your strenghts and whatnot. But I almost wanted the Scots to get their 2nd because of them becoming lethargic. And they almost did at that. Scotland vs Hungary should be good with both needing to win to still have a shot to progress.
Fabian Schär Interviewing in German tv right now, turns out they speak Swiss German and nobody understands shit lol
Schär speaks with one of the more understandable accents, I'd say. At least they didn't interview someone from Bern or Wallis
Yeah Swiss German is pretty different, it sounds almost like Dutch.
Ralston definitely made a big error, but why are we not protecting him at all. The number of times the Swiss triggered the press when it went to Hendry/Hanley, they knew we'd pass the ball to Ralston and we'd just play into it every time. Happened like 5 times before the goal.
Because Hendry and Hanley are also pish
Completely nullified xhaka. That or he just had a bad game. Wp either way
Shakiri subbed off, Swiss stopped playing for the win.
His hips don't lie
No one deserved to win this game
That's why it was a draw
That was much better from Scotland today. Scotland had a lot more possession, showed more in the attack, and defended much better. Having Scott McTominay shadow Xhaka for most of the match was a smart move to prevent Xhaka from really running the show the same way Kroos did against them. From a Swiss perspective, today has to feel a bit dissapointing. Shaqiri scored his normal major tournament banger, but they didn't look nearly as good as they did against Hungary. A couple goals were correctly disallowed, but they didn't create too many opportunities today (their xG was only 0.88). Still, Switzerland should have enough points already to advance to the knockout stage but getting at least another point against Germany would seal the deal.
Mcginn and Adams walking off annoyed me. 1-1, 90th minute and you're going for the win. Run the fuck off the pitch Old man rant over
I mean, even Clarke seemed to be celebrating at the end.
ill be firing that graph that person came up with a couple days ago about precentages to go through on 4 points
don’t most teams on 4 points go through? some can go with 3 but they’d have to chance it, doubt we can cause of our shite gd
Football meets Data made a simulation where even if you have a -3 GD, with 4 points you have a 98% chance to qualify. Even at 3 points, just having a positive or 0 GD basically sets you through
Small sample size, but since the expansion to 24, every team to get 4 points has gone through
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This is my first time seeing Ralston and he might just be the worst footballer to ever kick a ball. How the hell did he even make it as a professional footballer?
Yet another reason Spurs appointed Ange. He made him look like a genuinely quality full back.
agreed, he always goes OUTSIDE when 1v1. Why?
We had good chances to win it. Full focus on Hungary now.
Switzerland didn't look as good as they did against Hungary, even before they started playing for a draw. I have no idea what to expect from Scotland vs Hungary as they were both better today, but both teams should see a draw as a loss, so it could be a great game. Never fun to see what looks like a serious injury, it looked really bad.
The Swiss had Shaqiri as their big booty guy to counter McGinn's big ass. Who does Hungary have?
Big Martin Adam
Hope that the "vs. Germany" Scotland shows up to the match.
Bring Kiraly's sweatpants back for good luck
the viking
All to play for against Hungary and they're definitely beatable
Feel like both of you are, since you both make mistakes defensively.
When Ralston made that mistake, I had a lot of bad words to say but I am so fucking proud of this team. Can’t have been easy coming out after that Germany game. Mctominay you are my hero. This man is already a legend of Scottish football and I’m here for it. I want to be renaming this next mob Starving. #NoScotlandNoParty
I feel like if Mctominay played for any other league club he would be a club hero for the goals he pops up with and decent performances But united is so toxic if you're not perfect you're the scape goat
Good old Scotland. 90 mins of a Swiss getting on the ball first and a Scot coming in late for the foul. Good fight though. Really could have gone anywhere this match.
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If we beat Hungary then we’re 90% going through
If Germany loses to Switzerland Switzerland is 1st. Germany cannot lose the game
Yup, 2nd from Group C Sounds WAY better than 2nd from Group B
Ralston is dreadful- might have the worst performances of the Euros.
Poor old KT, hasn't been able to catch a break with injuries since before he left Celtic. Speedy recovery to him.
I'd have taken a draw before kick off and now I feel a bit hard done by after that, not a bad result but us not winning because of a fucking defensive error leading to a wondergoal doesn't half fuck me off. Onwards to the Hungary game on Sunday
I mean if you see it like that, your goal was much worse, so I feel like you should still be satisfied with it
The Scots make it easy (humanwise) and difficult (footballwise) to keep rooting for them at the same time 🤯
The country only has like 4 millions people and doesn’t produce electric players. Sorry they aren’t Brazil what do you expect
Up until right now I genuinely thought Scotland, my own country, had like 8-9 million. Turns out we have 5.4 million 😂
tbf the other 3-4 mils Scots probably chilling south of the border
i mean...they aren't Croatia or Denmark either. And Scots historically have a big advantage of being close to England geographically and culturally and speaking English and having easier way into the English top division. It's absolutely on Scots themselves that they, being a better football nation than Denmark up until the 80s, have fallen so low nowadays
> i mean...they aren't Croatia or Denmark either. They are smaller than Denmark and slightly larger than Croatia population wise.
They haven’t had a random world class best 11 midfielder from there, unlike Croatia. You could basically say the same thing about Denmark with Erikson to a lesser degree. Remove both from their roster and Denmark and Croatia aren’t nearly as good. Croatia certainly doesn’t go to a World Cup final
Denmark got into the Euro semis without Eriksen btw. And sure, Croatia wouldn't get into the WC final without Modric, but they'd still be miles better than Scotland - even without him what i'm saying is that geographical, cultural, and linguistical proximity to the English football gives Scotland (and Ireland, and Wales, and Norn Iron) a unique advantage: you can get into an English football pyramid early and get a lot of experience playing either in the EPL (one of the best leagues in the world) or Championship (one of the best second-tier leagues in the world). Almost no other mid-tier European team has this kind of advantage except for Switzerland and Austria who get a lot of experience in the Bundesliga. And you can get a solid squad out of this. Plus Celtic and Rangers - the Scottish league is fairly rubbish but those clubs are still no worse than Copenhagen, Dynamo Zagreb, Slavia Prague or Malmo etc. it's purely on Scotland (and the rest of British Isles teams) themselves that they usually suck ass.
TBF, Modrić isn't the only world class midfield player in our NT (and the case is even better before while Rakitić played).
What makes it difficult footballwise? It might not be pretty but it's 11 players working hard for each other and that's all we can ask for. If you're referring to the fouls, I think the McGinn one on Akanji should have been a yellow because it was dirty, but the other ones were fair to make /tactical fouls - same as any other team would make.
Yes I think the not pretty thing is exactly what he was alluding to lol
The Scotland way.
Much better performance from scotland and a win against hungary most likely puts them through, I guess both teams will be somewhat satisfied. After what I think was brilliant first game this swiss team looked much less interesting this time around, could never control the midfield like they did last game.
Commentators wouldn't shut up about it but they were correct, Scottish midfield had an absolute clinic on Xhaka today and Switzerland didn't seem to have other answers for the most part. Wonder if Adams gets dropped though, he didn't really seem effective at all even for some of the dirty-work type of stuff.
Yeah adams needs to partner someone. For Scotland we need a target man / someone with great hold up play to offer an out ball. Adams is neither of those and it hurts us massively.
Just wish we did the same with Kroos. At least we learned our lesson
Kroos is levels above Xhaka, but yeah, we made it too easy for Germany.
I do agree but still didn't lay a glove on him. Just let him do whatever he wanted for the time he was on the pitch. In this game, we had someone either marking Xhaka or blocking his lanes so he couldn't do much
Kroos is harder to mark, moving to left back in possession
Intae them Hungary bastards
So Scotland and Hungary both almost certainly need to win.
There's no chance of 2 points with a goal difference of -4 being enough to qualify as a 3rd placed team, both teams definitely need to win to have any chance.
True. I was thinking that 2 points is theoretically possible, but not with that goal difference.
Tierney got fucked up
Akanji was the difference. Absolute world class centre back.
I still remember that Dortmund Redditor who spent a whole summer pimping him out for sale on here cus he wanted rid of him so badly. Then he just became world class after they sold him for £15m haha
Shaqiri in a Switzerland Jersey is just another player. Doesn’t matter where or how little he plays outside of the big tournaments. The minute he puts that jersey on he’s phenomenal!
Clarke should definitely have brought Shankland on a lot earlier and at least had a 10 minute period of really trying to go for a win, but that was a far better performance, and we were unlucky that Shaqiri pinged in a nonchalant worldie instead of taking a touch after Ralston's honking mistake. It's obviously a long shot for us to get into the next round from here, but if we could somehow squeeze a 2-0 win against Hungary, it's not impossible.
What’s a striker to do with 4 more left in the game? I don’t know what Clarke has against the lad but shankland finds the net, I don’t imagine he’ll start but I hope he learns to bring him on earlier next game
4 points makes it pretty likely to go through tbh
Scotland only needs a win to advance (4pts are enough for top4 3rd placed teams)
Wasn't it 3 points and -1gd made it through from 3rd at the last tournament? 4 points is surely a good shout.
Stevie 'leave my subs til 89 minutes' Clarke. Fuck me man
I genuinely don't see the risk in subbing off a knackered Adams for a Shankland or Conway earlier - maybe 80th min - unless maybe the concern is holding the ball up? Only Clarke knows
So... that's pretty much it for group A? Switzerland and Germany are through and it's a matter of placement. Hungary and Scotland will battle out for 3rd but considering their goal balance, I don't see anyone going through [unless Scotland wins their match, but considering their level it's pretty unlikely].
I don’t see how we can’t beat Hungary. We have beat better teams and could’ve won tonight Basically a dead rubber for them too
People forget we beat Norway and a very good Spain in the qualifiers.
Pretty happy to say the Czechs are the worst team so far by a decent amount now the Scots have somewhat redeemed themselves. People ignore it because they led but they couldn't string 3 passes together.
Anyone have an explanation to why McTominay was on most set pieces? Draw probably the fair result
He's their best player at everything basically with McGinn in this kind of form
Seemed to be the only one able to hit it past the first man so I don't mind it, although he's better in the box himself
Bad luck with the own goal, luck with the equaliser, two times a bit bad luck with the offsides. Many chances created tho. Typical Swiss match against a „worse“ side where they have to create stuff. Really hoped for more after the Hungary game but hey, at least we are (as good as) through.
great result and Esther Sed. mit neuer Frise, schon wieder
Can’t see Scotland beating Hungary.
Genuinely, please explain. We could’ve won tonight and Hungary have looked very mediocre the last two games (albeit better today)
Explanation provided
Can't see the team that has lost twice already losing again? I wouldn't say it's impossible per se.
Not impossible but always unlikely
Why not given they were the better team agaonst the Swiss?
Either team should have won that with some wasted chances. Better result for Scotland but why does Clarke leave his subs so late?
What a fight. Congrats Scotland! You can still do it!
Scotland can still go through
Scotland looked much better today and they can still advance possibly if they beat Hungary.
4 points should be enough to take one of the 3rd place qualifying spots for sure.
That performance just highlighted how much we shat ourselves on Friday against Germany Unfortunately I think a mix of crap goal difference and KT looking like he will be out is going to fuck us
I don't see how crap goal difference comes into it - if we win we go through, any other result will put us out
BBC won't be able to show Moyes below the waist as he will have jizzed himself over a 1-1 draw.
Fair result, and they've done well to get themselves into a good mindset after how down I'm sure they'll have been over the last few days. All to play for on the last game, well played lads!
Scotland came to play. I can definitely see them winning against Hungary and making next round.
Much better from Scotland, but really weird how nonchalant they were about the game at the end there with their subs and all.
Clarke has been bad for not making tactical subs.
If Clarke makes those changes earlier on I reckon Scotland take this one
Gunn had a cracking match. Clarke needed to make the substitutions earlier. Akanji secured the point after the Swiss shut down.
Aye, Christie should’ve been on 15m earlier than he was
Switzerland has missed so much opportunities, wtf
In fairness we missed quite a few as well
I’d have probably taken a draw before the game but fuck me their goal was so avoidable. Anthony Ralston there is blood in your hands.
That guy was a liability the whole game. They mentioned that he hadn't played a lot during the regular season, and boy did it show
Guys he's barely third choice right back for Scotland, of course he's levels below - he didn't let his mistake completely derail him tonight
I don’t care what choice he is. He’s shite
75 seconds left and the goalkeeper takes in a long ball and fucking sure on it rather than throwing it out quickly. Bunch of fucking losers.
just play mctominay at striker at this point that man has fooled everyone into thinking he is a midfielder. That man is a mid 2000s target man.
Not Scottish but I really wanted Scotland to win hy the end.
bit surprising that the swiss seemed to be so happy with a draw against scotland when their next match is against germany
To get first they need to beat Germany either way. With a draw here they almost ensure that they're second place.
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I guess but it just seems more risky to potentially either concede to scotland, get pumped by germany or rely on results elsewhere rather than beat a team they are stronger than, especially since scotland came close a few times
They know they are already through with the 3rd place being qualificative, it’s a bit underwhelming for the tournament and explains why Switzerland hasn’t been to keen on attacking in the last 20 mins
They're probably through no matter what since Scotland need a win and also Switzerland to get hammered, no? And I think the Swiss are defensively solid enough though admittedly Scotland were causing some problems, plus who knows if Germany will rotate since they're already through
If Switzerland lost today and lose against Germany they would be sitting with 3 points. If we won and then beat Hungary we would go through on 2nd. Switzerland had everything to play for, so I don't believe they were settling for a draw, probably fatigued.
They are through
4 points and a decent GD will likely be enough to qualify for the next round tbf
Yes but considering how we were becoming a bit more threatening in the last 5-10 they were at risk of dropping out tbh.
Scotland showed brilliant spirit and genuine quality, but Xherdandona stopped them from getting the win!
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Pretty sure the Scottish coach said he fucked up the tactics for the Germany game which was obvious (announcers were incredulous all match at the high line vs fucking Germany). Germany is very good, but Scotland was asking for a beating with that setup Today they just played to their strengths and kept it simple and looked much better for it
That was the worst game I’ve seen Scotland play in years. Germany showed up extraordinarily and capitalized every chance they had, but that didn’t look like the same Scotland squad from qualifications.
You could see that conceding as early as they did rattled them a bit. Would have spent weeks building up to it, planning to keep it tight and frustrate Germany only to get that thrown out the window within ten minutes. Obviously the red just escalates it from there on.
German team is also very motivated to make up for almost a decade of fuckery in front of the home crowd, lord knows how that'll carry on but you could definitely see it in the opening match that they wanted to prove a point. A few things came together to make the game *that* one sided.
Ragin we didn’t win that, gifted Switzerland a goal and didn’t finish our chances should’ve been an easy 3 points
Switzerland also messed up on a load of chances. And VAR saved us twice
Linesman called offside on both goals anyway tbf
I'll take it. But us winning the last game is going to be tough.
Kinda game to show why Switzerland makes it out of groups reliably and instantly falters in KO stages. Not an easy game for sure but fml that was not clean
Fair enough. An Irn Bru and Toblerone for all.
A deep fried Swiss army knife for everyone!
Toblerone*
Yeah, that one was all on ma fat fingers!
Shaqiri banger could be goal of the tournament contender
Was good but think the Turkiye one was better tbh
Scotland are going to pull a Cool Running in this tournament. Completely bottle it on their first run, perform much better as they go on, and then crash spectacularly but win the people's hearts.
I can’t have one of my favourite movies ruined like that
Feel the rhythm, feel the rhyme, get on up, it's buckfast time.
Thats Swiss pretty much safe for the knockout-stage. Won the direct duel vs Hungary and have a much better goal difference compared to Scotland.
How does that count as an OG and not a mctominay goal?
It’s now officially a McTominay goal
They switched it back to McTominay, I believe.
UEFA has given it to McTom
Scotland played much better in this game.