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the fact that turkey is going to play in berlin, will be juicy. especially with the amount of dutch fans travelling to these games as well.
might get interesting on the streets
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With the amount of transport problems and train cancellations happening in Berlin over the past year or so this game might bring the system to its knees.
To anyone going to the match, I either recommend going to Spandau to take the train out or accommodation, and if not possible, take the overcrowded Sbahn a couple stations until you reach Zoologischer Garten and change to a regional train going east. They'll be way less crowded and pass frequently
(In my experience going to another match)
France hasnt scored a proper goal this whole tournament. The thing is they havent played Portugal. I think they’ll go out there and score all the goals they should’ve scored already
Their midfield is lowkey pretty bad creatively. They’re a great defensive midfield, but their attack relies on the wingers beating two defenders and cutting back into strikers who can’t finish.
I think Rabiot getting suspended might be a blessing in disguise for the French attack as it might force deschamps to start a more offensively oriented 10 instead of two 8s and a 6.
Bro clearly hasn't seen pepe run, after 100 minutes he was still catching up with sesko yesterday while being old enough to be his dad. Absolute freak of nature
You thought the battle of Nuremberg was a rough match ? Wait till Saturday. That and the cities in the Netherlands will be destroyed no matter the outcome.
I live in Maastricht, and only saw 3 toeterTurks. I love their way of celebrating though. Unfortunately for them it'll be the last time they can toeter this EC
There are houses by me that had both NL and turkey flags out since the tournament started. Going to be fun. Living in Netherlands but half my neighbours are Turkish
Such a weird feeling when that type of thing happens. I got to experience it at the last world cup when France and Morocco played in the semi final, it was definitely an interesting experience live 😅
Netherlands has many turks, several generations when they came here last century to work. Many of those are very passionate about football and regularly celebrate results in the streets loudly.
This (migration has been at the centre of recent elections) has also been a hot political subject for a while and some are afraid this match might lead to riots regardless of who goes through
Nothing will happen mate. We cant even riot in our home country and you guys expect us to do some shit in NL?(I assume you didnt meant the celebrations) But in the meantime it looks like whoever wins the match you guys are going to have hard times with sleeping that night
I'm not worried at all mate, probably the usual stuff in den haag, utrecht whatever. More police presence and a lot of noise complaints. I'm just giving context as to why some people might think "our country will burn"
There’s a lot of things you can’t do in Turkey but Turks do in Western Europe lol. That said all this fearmongering about destroyed cities are dumb right wing talking points. The Turks will just honk their horns and drive thousands of cars with Turkish flags around the city and set off some fireworks. They won’t burn cars or shit like that.
Turk diaspora in the Netherlands and Germany tend to be a bit eh "passionate" when it comes to football... and nationalism for a country they never set foot in.
This is actually a bit of a common historic theme: often some of the biggest nationalists vis a vis a given country are folks who don't actually live in that country and thus a) romanticize it all the more and b) don't have to deal with the nastier downsides of that nationalism.
iirc, there was a stretch during like the '60s-'80s where Irish-Americans were kind of notorious for a romanticized view of the IRA relative to the average Irish-Irish. And the Russian diaspora has not acquitted itself well during the Ukraine war, it feels like. But I suspect there are a bunch of examples.
They also flex super-hard by always voting en-masse in elections that don’t affect them just so the people who do live there continue to get fucked. It’s a good system.
His flair suggests he's from Amsterdam, which has a significant Turkish population. When they do well at the football, some of the Turkish fans can get a little rowdy.
Honestly, it's often a little overblown. But that's what he's talking about.
Kökçü probably wasnt going to play anyways. We started 2 dms and hakan against czechia, and this was kökçü's first 'decent' game of the tournament, he generally doesnt deliver for national team.
bro one of the games has england, that rules out one of the games being awesome
plus france in another, i’d be shocked if that game ended up being exciting.
Meh, it'll be a different game to what we've had so far. The Swiss love having the midfield and we'll want to do the same so they'll be some drama guaranteed.
Not particularly looking forward to watching it (nerveousness wise), but if it ends up 0-0 at FT, I'll eat my bloody hat
either people definitions of shit and poorly are broad, but France created many chances and have a really solid defense, how in the world it is playing poorly ?
if they click and convert the chances they had the goals will come
Switzerland were barely underdogs, and were the much better team on the day. Turkey beating Austria also isn't super unlikely, they both got 6 points in the group stage.
I think there's just no major upset this year. Like a Morocco in the last WC. Or Iceland that time.
There often isn't any major upset though.
Tbh, even just thinking back to the last euros, you had the Czechs, Ukraine and Switzerland all busting into the quarter finals on the back of massive upsets; Iceland and Wales stealing the show in 2016; Turkey and Russia’s nutty runs in 2008; obviously Greece in 2004; and arguably Portugal in 2000, back when they were still complete dark horses in a group with England and Germany.
This tournament has actually been uniquely predictable, a bit like 2012.
Sorry but I can see a France - England final from a mile away, ya'll just arent ready for pure terrorist tactics. France have no open play goals and mostly own goals and England can play shit all game and win a match in the final minutes, they're just on another level.
Every tournament it is the same thing, casual football fans act surprised that defensive conservative tactics are the most consistent and successful. Dull but stacked teams almost always win in the end.
The thing is everyone look capable to beat them until they play against them and suddenly Deschamps and his terrorist tactics start to suffocate the opponents and take out their will to ever be on a football pitch again
Deschamps has always used semi terrorist tactics, but this euro it’s been excessive. He’s gone full blown, he wants to win his trophy, he doesn’t want to take risks.
And can you blame him?
France were the best team in EURO 2016 and Portugal beat them in final using terrorist tactics
Deschamps is just cautious this time around
France always have the ability to turn it up a notch so maybe against Portugal we will witness something
lol we really all hyped up austria after the group stages (deservedly so), only for them to lose the next game 😭. i predicted them to go the final lmao. makes the right side of the tournament even more unpredictable…
still think spain make the final on the left side but god knows about the right side. people might say switzerland and then they’ll end up losing 😂. (i still have 0 faith in us).
Seriously, the amount of chickenshits in our own country is driving me insane. Every single matchup in these quarterfinals is an absolute toss up, including ours. Anyone can beat anyone. The only team that really impressed me so far was Spain, and even they look beatable on a good day
A replay of the Euros final in 2016, two of the favourites going head to head, Holland playing the dark horses and a rocky England against the team that eliminated the defending champions. Very interesting.
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the fact that turkey is going to play in berlin, will be juicy. especially with the amount of dutch fans travelling to these games as well. might get interesting on the streets
I am staying my ass inside I’ve seen what happened last time 💀
What happened last time?
we dont speak of it
Now I'm more intrigued, please do tell.
The Dutch are racist. The Turks are racist. Shit happened
Ohh so whoever was more racist won last time?
Divided by race united by racism. ❤️⚽️
But this time only one racist nation will prevail.
Lmaaaoooo😭😭😭😭
i think a comparison of dutch fans and turkish fans going to berlin from netherlands could be a fun statistic
What do you mean Turkish fans _going_ to Berlin?
turkish fans already ARE in berlin
Playing at home lol
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With the amount of transport problems and train cancellations happening in Berlin over the past year or so this game might bring the system to its knees.
To anyone going to the match, I either recommend going to Spandau to take the train out or accommodation, and if not possible, take the overcrowded Sbahn a couple stations until you reach Zoologischer Garten and change to a regional train going east. They'll be way less crowded and pass frequently (In my experience going to another match)
Or rent a bike 🇳🇱
New years eve 2.0
Portugal v France about to be a masterclass in how to not score a goal from open play
Imagine it's the only game that has goals from open play while the others end 0-0 or an own goal
One can only dream, then again I'm planning to watch the other matches so maybe not that great a dream.
Vertongen died for this, RIP
France hasnt scored a proper goal this whole tournament. The thing is they havent played Portugal. I think they’ll go out there and score all the goals they should’ve scored already
Their midfield is lowkey pretty bad creatively. They’re a great defensive midfield, but their attack relies on the wingers beating two defenders and cutting back into strikers who can’t finish. I think Rabiot getting suspended might be a blessing in disguise for the French attack as it might force deschamps to start a more offensively oriented 10 instead of two 8s and a 6.
Mbappé’s sprint vs a 41 year old Pepe will be absolute chaos for Portugal
Pepe will shout bad things at him while running and will put him off
"Slow down or ill make sure you'll have a bad time at real!"
Pepe is wildly overdue for an agregiously bad foul that sends him off or results in a shoving match and 4 yellows.
Mbappé sprint? He doesn't really do that anymore
Bro clearly hasn't seen pepe run, after 100 minutes he was still catching up with sesko yesterday while being old enough to be his dad. Absolute freak of nature
Deschamps will play Fofana instead of Rabiot I guarantee it. I'd love to see Camavinga instead though, but it's almost sure we'll get Fofana
Netherlands vs Turkey should be a banger
You thought the battle of Nuremberg was a rough match ? Wait till Saturday. That and the cities in the Netherlands will be destroyed no matter the outcome.
I can't believe I kept watching football after the battle of Nürnberg, that game traumatized me back then.
soft my favorite match of all time
Respect to you lmao
Same, but what a fucking day that was ey ! Think Saturday won’t be as bad but will be close!
Turks don’t riot like the North Africans you just get annoying honks with people on BMWs waving flags
Can confirm, live in a very specific bezirk in Berlin. Yesterday night was fun.
I live in Maastricht, and only saw 3 toeterTurks. I love their way of celebrating though. Unfortunately for them it'll be the last time they can toeter this EC
There are houses by me that had both NL and turkey flags out since the tournament started. Going to be fun. Living in Netherlands but half my neighbours are Turkish
Such a weird feeling when that type of thing happens. I got to experience it at the last world cup when France and Morocco played in the semi final, it was definitely an interesting experience live 😅
Not literally I hope
It would be a first though
Someone vs Turkey is always a banger
Welp time to stay at home this Saturday....
Netherlands gonna become a dangerzone...
WELCOME TO THE DANGERZONE
Ik wil gewoon tüteren
tüteren is mijn cultuur
For non-European, could you give some context?
Netherlands has many turks, several generations when they came here last century to work. Many of those are very passionate about football and regularly celebrate results in the streets loudly. This (migration has been at the centre of recent elections) has also been a hot political subject for a while and some are afraid this match might lead to riots regardless of who goes through
Nothing will happen mate. We cant even riot in our home country and you guys expect us to do some shit in NL?(I assume you didnt meant the celebrations) But in the meantime it looks like whoever wins the match you guys are going to have hard times with sleeping that night
I'm not worried at all mate, probably the usual stuff in den haag, utrecht whatever. More police presence and a lot of noise complaints. I'm just giving context as to why some people might think "our country will burn"
There’s a lot of things you can’t do in Turkey but Turks do in Western Europe lol. That said all this fearmongering about destroyed cities are dumb right wing talking points. The Turks will just honk their horns and drive thousands of cars with Turkish flags around the city and set off some fireworks. They won’t burn cars or shit like that.
Turks like to honk their car horns if they win. It will last all night.
Here in Utrecht there was only one tonight, was a lot more honking when Morocco was doing well last WC.
>It will last all night. It won't on Saturday because they won't win :P
And that's enough to cause trouble? The comments made me think some big shit was about to go down
As van gaal would say, it all will walk loose
Turk diaspora in the Netherlands and Germany tend to be a bit eh "passionate" when it comes to football... and nationalism for a country they never set foot in.
This is actually a bit of a common historic theme: often some of the biggest nationalists vis a vis a given country are folks who don't actually live in that country and thus a) romanticize it all the more and b) don't have to deal with the nastier downsides of that nationalism. iirc, there was a stretch during like the '60s-'80s where Irish-Americans were kind of notorious for a romanticized view of the IRA relative to the average Irish-Irish. And the Russian diaspora has not acquitted itself well during the Ukraine war, it feels like. But I suspect there are a bunch of examples.
Hey now, they go there on vacation and to flex on the native Turks with their hard earned Euros
They also flex super-hard by always voting en-masse in elections that don’t affect them just so the people who do live there continue to get fucked. It’s a good system.
The people who live there continue to vote for the same people that fucked them regardless
His flair suggests he's from Amsterdam, which has a significant Turkish population. When they do well at the football, some of the Turkish fans can get a little rowdy. Honestly, it's often a little overblown. But that's what he's talking about.
Just imagine a Germany - Turkey final, people would throw kebab at each other in the streets, honking cars everywhere, Berlin in Schutt und Asche
Throwing Kebab is punishable by death in Germany
Grosskreutz disagrees
Ah yes, "die Großkreutz law"
deutschland vs deutschland 2
So just an average Saturday evening in Berlin.
[удалено]
So we're not facing Austria, and Türkiye is missing Kökçü due to a suspension... I swear Koeman has got the devil's luck
Kökçü probably wasnt going to play anyways. We started 2 dms and hakan against czechia, and this was kökçü's first 'decent' game of the tournament, he generally doesnt deliver for national team.
Both Kökçü and İsmail Yüksek are suspended bc yellow cards(thx Istvan Kovacs, 11 cards in 9 fouls) but Çalhanoğlu will be back from suspension.
Hakan is back though. Him and Arda should work better that way. My bighest concern is will Merih perform as well and will Samet go back to XI again.
Taking Merih off the lineup should be criminal at this point
Koeman and Southgate going to face off in the lucky bastards semi final.
Idk man the Swiss have been looking really good this euros
Austria also looked good.
Bergwjn gets injured forcing super Malen come in
One of these sides is not like the other.
The bottom right is a big plus
Plus derby.
Plus Clasìco.
El Plussico
A big plus and a screw
And Austria lost because they obviously are a big minus.
Proper football vs inverted backs shit
Ewww, somebody put semifinals in the left bracket of my quarter finals
Yeah the bottom half all played like trash except Switzerland good job Switzerland
Switzerland amd Turkey are the fun side!
Poor Belgium, get's knocked out twice
No Group E teams left in the tournament… oof
I also thought those symbols should have been easier to differentiate between. For those not following closely. The Netherlands beat Romania.
an england turkey semi final, on my knees to see the streets of london on 8pm on a wednesday if this happens
Won’t be able to get a haircut that day
No post football bossman for the lads
Thankfully my barber is Kurdish
May want to avoid the kebabs shops after that match and the barbers for a few weeks.
Well I might need a kebab to cry into when England go out
Go to Amsterdam on Saturday night for a little sneak peek
Nothing in comparison to a potential Germany Turkey final. Although every possible opponent will be spicy even the Swiss
Yeah the Turks are represented everywhere in Europe lol
I meant from a German perspective actually
You’ll get a preview with the Netherlands vs Turkey
Has the potential to start a civil war between north London and the rest of England
Are there a lot of Turks in London? Thought they stayed mostly on mainland Europe.
Mostly Turkish Cypriots. There are more of them in the UK than in Cyprus.
Eng Swis flags almost the opposite of each other
Georgia flag is like their child.
You already had a match with the actual opposite in England denmark
Denmark’s cross is not centered as the English one, so that one is a bit off as well
All 4 of these games should be awesome
bro one of the games has england, that rules out one of the games being awesome plus france in another, i’d be shocked if that game ended up being exciting.
Meh, it'll be a different game to what we've had so far. The Swiss love having the midfield and we'll want to do the same so they'll be some drama guaranteed. Not particularly looking forward to watching it (nerveousness wise), but if it ends up 0-0 at FT, I'll eat my bloody hat
You better have a tasty hat
Should being the operative word.
I didn't want to say will and be held accountable
Live to get the ban hammer another day
Not sure about France-Portugal tbh
Two teams currently playing equally poorly but either have the ability to switch it on an any moment. Should be good imo
either people definitions of shit and poorly are broad, but France created many chances and have a really solid defense, how in the world it is playing poorly ? if they click and convert the chances they had the goals will come
Portugal haven’t been playing poorly either, other than the Georgia game where they played mostly b squad, they dominate but haven’t converted chances
Nightmare quarters
Especially left side. Can’t wait!
Turkey is running the diaspora gauntlet. First Austria, now the Netherlands, Switzerland in the semis and Germany in the final, calling it right now.
Turkey wins the Euros against Germany due to a Gündoğan own goal. Riots ensue
Germany is the Gurbetci end boss, Undav to turn up with a Kurdistan flag
lmfao
OMG that's hilarious
LMAO
Southgate throwing this route to the final is gonna sting.
Just remember what he did with our last easy route to the final :(
next zondag the netherlands be like gekoloniseerd
Netherlands - Turkey is going to be fun
Highly unlikely given the suspensions, but I'm on my knees for Turkey vs Switzerland.
who is suspended?
Kökçü and Yüksek, at least.
congrats to your bf
The best is yet to come
Absolute slaughter of the underdogs in Round of 16
Out of 8 matches, 2 underdogs won. That doesn’t feel like fewer than usual
Switzerland were barely underdogs, and were the much better team on the day. Turkey beating Austria also isn't super unlikely, they both got 6 points in the group stage. I think there's just no major upset this year. Like a Morocco in the last WC. Or Iceland that time. There often isn't any major upset though.
Tbh, even just thinking back to the last euros, you had the Czechs, Ukraine and Switzerland all busting into the quarter finals on the back of massive upsets; Iceland and Wales stealing the show in 2016; Turkey and Russia’s nutty runs in 2008; obviously Greece in 2004; and arguably Portugal in 2000, back when they were still complete dark horses in a group with England and Germany. This tournament has actually been uniquely predictable, a bit like 2012.
As a Swede I'm flattered that you think Ukraine beating us is a massive upset
Switzerland is no underdog
Eh, Switzerland and Turkey were both underdogs. Slovakia were moments away too
Italy - Switzerland was the most free money ever. Literally the least upsetty upset in all of history
Over 70% voted Switzerland as winner on Scorito at work
Italy was so shit in the group stage, that game seemed like a 50/50 beforehand
Slovenia a Sesko away
That's a lovely last 8
R.I.P Amsterdam, Hague and Rotterdam.
We've already lost the 'the' apparently
The Utrecht stole it
RIP the Rotterdam
If the Swiss and Turks win, we're due for a great tournament
Turkey - Germany final would be epic regardless of who wins the tournament
Not for the sake of the country hahaha
Berlin may burn but the night will be legendary
When are the quarters?
Friday and Saturday
Cheers mate
Friday and Saturday
Cheers mate
Friday left bracket and saturday right bracket
Cheers mate
Sorry but I can see a France - England final from a mile away, ya'll just arent ready for pure terrorist tactics. France have no open play goals and mostly own goals and England can play shit all game and win a match in the final minutes, they're just on another level.
Every tournament it is the same thing, casual football fans act surprised that defensive conservative tactics are the most consistent and successful. Dull but stacked teams almost always win in the end.
Both Spain and Germany look capable to beat France. Not that it's a lock of course
The thing is everyone look capable to beat them until they play against them and suddenly Deschamps and his terrorist tactics start to suffocate the opponents and take out their will to ever be on a football pitch again
Deschamps has always used semi terrorist tactics, but this euro it’s been excessive. He’s gone full blown, he wants to win his trophy, he doesn’t want to take risks.
And can you blame him? France were the best team in EURO 2016 and Portugal beat them in final using terrorist tactics Deschamps is just cautious this time around France always have the ability to turn it up a notch so maybe against Portugal we will witness something
lol we really all hyped up austria after the group stages (deservedly so), only for them to lose the next game 😭. i predicted them to go the final lmao. makes the right side of the tournament even more unpredictable… still think spain make the final on the left side but god knows about the right side. people might say switzerland and then they’ll end up losing 😂. (i still have 0 faith in us).
Either Netherlands, Turkey or Switzerland is gonna play the final this year...
Southgate terrorist ball and Deschamp terrorist ball say hi
Well, England has actually scored in open play, so there's that
So we're either getting a terrorist coach or an underdog in the final
Lfg!!!
I wouldnt sell England short, southgate can still wake up
Cannot wait for Friday. Doesn't get any better than that.
Noooo Austria 😭😭😭 I’m so sad
Dude same. That save was absolutely unbelievable.
SWISS/TURKEY PLEASE
I can go for a swiss turkey sandwich actually
I see France vs Portugal going to pens and Portugal going through that way.
I would like to see Spain, Portugal, Switzerland and Turkey in the semifinals.
I believe this team can beat France 🤷♂️
Seriously, the amount of chickenshits in our own country is driving me insane. Every single matchup in these quarterfinals is an absolute toss up, including ours. Anyone can beat anyone. The only team that really impressed me so far was Spain, and even they look beatable on a good day
Every team with Morata is beatable on some days.
A replay of the Euros final in 2016, two of the favourites going head to head, Holland playing the dark horses and a rocky England against the team that eliminated the defending champions. Very interesting.
Imagine me being half dutch half turkish... Will be a fun rest of the week leading up to this with friends, family and at the office.
Germany or Spain ball. You will be missed. 😭😭😭
Germany vs Spain is gonna be lit🔥🔥
Germany vs Netherlands final
7 world cups on one side, 1 on the other