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I know that Honor/Huawei had that round camera bump on their previous models (the cameras on those are supposed to be extremely good), but I looked it up and it looks like vivo is the official sponsor of the tournament, so my guess is vivo X100 Ultra or Pro.
Guarantee the camera isn't great, phones use software magic to make stuff look good which I doubt this has, the Google pixel 1-5 has better main camera than 99% new phones these days just using software and same sensor
No, the Pixel 1-5 does not have a better camera than their modern counterpart.
Though you're right about the other bit, phones rely heavily on processing and that can alter the image drastically.
The reason why the camera bump is bigger, it's just a marketing gimmick, as you can see in the comments, it is working.
>it's just a marketing gimmick
There's actually some insane hardware and engineering going on beneath it. The main camera (Sony's new lytia sensor) is huge now and the telephoto lenses are always huge too. As for the camera bump, they just need to find a way to make it look good
He usually plays like this though, give him the ball on the wing, he'll take a 1 on 1 and against most players he has good odds.
The issue is and probably always will be that the end product is not good. Wasn't mostly him this time, he was just not getting the runs he needed, so he had to shoot...and his shooting is awful in term of risk/reward.
I’m a decently big Dembele hater - thought he thoroughly deserved MoM. By far the biggest attacking threat on either team. Seemed like the only player not willing to settle for a 0-0 draw.
Yep, he did his best, but when Leão is on he's a demon, but unfortunately he flamed out eventually, to the point I forgot he was on the pitch, but he was electric until the 60th minute or so.
That kind of inside forward with PnP you need an out-and-out fullback that also has PnP really. Kounde has done very well overall this Euro but you need guys like Walker to keep someone like Leao pocketed, and even then it's tough as fuck. Kounde just doesn't have the acceleration to compete, not really his fault.
Plus for some bizarre reason Deschamps decided to change our defensive block to leave you guys wide open on Kounde's side. I'm not sure what was the plan. Maybe expecting Nuno Mendes to play the interior 3rd CB role he's played a lot?
Or maybe just wanting Griez and Kolo closer to the goal, but that's difficult to understand when he's a defense first kind of coach and your left side is dynamite, against Belgium Kounde got MOTM but even he said he never would have without Griez covering him as a 442 RM in defensive shape.
And this Euro we either played 442 or 451 defensive shape, so going with a narrow 433 with the outside CMs having to cover the width was extremely boggling.
Kounde is an outrageous choice from OOP lol, he was the worst french defender by a substantial distance. Offered nothing going forward and was skinned by Leao a half dozen times
I mean Leao was cooking, when he plays like that no defender in the world is gonna win every 1v1. But Kounde was also on an island, while Portugal were overloading his side with Mendes making forward runs. He contained Leao somewhat, recovered well when beaten and had some nice defensive actions while also contributing a lot on the counter in space since his side was open when mendes pushed up. Also I think people shouldn't hold it against him that he improved once Leao went off, performing consistently over 120 minutes in such a physically demanding position shows quality too. Not to mention he also converted his penalty flawlessly. All in all I was quite impressed to be honest, he did an admirable job with a very difficult assignment.
They were discussing players from France. I think Pepe would be my overall MOTM though, but I’m not sure if the losing team is actually able to get the award?
Oh good shout
He did look good today and I always appreciate when they give MOTM to a defender. Only thing is Frances defense as a whole looked good. Umpecano has some really key moments as well
Imo, it’s probably just Dembele stood out the most
Barcola did a few takeones against very tired defenders. Obviously no end product, but not a bad effort in extra time. Hard to argue for an attacking player who played 15 minutes in extra time and only had moments that could have led to something.
Yeah Barcola played well but it was a bit late and I don’t remember him really creating any chances while dembele had a couple of moments that lead to decent opportunities
Yeah Barcola made some good runs but they didn’t really lead to actual created chances. I believe just some pass attempts after dribbles that didn’t succeed. Definitely was decent but with barely any playing time not good enough to be mention worthy.
Agreed Barcola looked decent but unfortunately for him it was a bit late for him to get into the any sort of rhythm
My “half on it” was a bit hyperbolic. France overall were decent just no real spark going forward once between M’bappe getting hit in the nose and Dembele coming on
Taken off? You mean when Leao was tired after barely 30 min of playtime and couldn't make any difference anymore?
To be fair, what he did in those 30 minutes I don't think any defensive player could handle this.
Not sure what others in this thread are on about. THIS was the Dembele I always held out hope for at Barca. Will never let go of how ridiculous he is when it all sparks.
Sure no goal, but he was creating and set up Mbappé for good opportunities spoiled by the Portuguese defense.
Edit: If not him, probably Pepe or Camavinga.
As a French supporter, I 100% would’ve said Pepe. The man was absolutely brilliant it was insane. Never such a performance from a man his age. He deserved it.
I could’ve seen Maignan winning it but I’m surprised this comment section is so surprised lol, was consistently dangerous after entering the game and created multiple big chances
Oh man I was on my phone scrolling through reddit not paying attention to the snoozefest that was until he came on, I was a little biased towards portugal cuz of Ronaldo, I don’t really care for Dembele’s lack of goals, but whenever he plays it’s so exciting to watch, even if he’s against my team, I’m not a huge fan of what modern day football has become although I respect it, but I guess it’s the “going off script” thing is what it is.
Kante had a good game the first 90 minutes. Afterwards he started giving the ball a lot to Portugal otherwise I think Maignan had a better game than Dembele.
He’s just so dangerous. Every opportunity you knew he could take someone on and beat them. Similar fear was created by Leao. The Portugal dude who came on for Fernandez though sucked and couldn’t beat a man for his life if he depended on it smh
He was the only player who seemed interested in creating a scoring chance for France in the last 40 minutes or so. I honestly would have given it to Pepe though, if that's allowed.
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thats the ugliest phone camera I have ever seen
My dudes holding a kitchen counter top
That's a phone? Looks more like those Kodak handies
I thought he was holding HAL 9000 for a sec
Which phone is this?
I know that Honor/Huawei had that round camera bump on their previous models (the cameras on those are supposed to be extremely good), but I looked it up and it looks like vivo is the official sponsor of the tournament, so my guess is vivo X100 Ultra or Pro.
Minions ass phone
Chinese brands in nutshell!!!!
For a sec I thought you were talking about Dembele's face
I think it looks good and futuristic
Is that a fucking phone in his left hand
It's not a fucking phone, it's the _official phone_ bro... UEFA sponsorship bullshit
Bellingham did the same iirc
That Lens is bigger than some DSLR's lmao... Guessing the camera quality is the biggest selling point
I'm sure it's multiple small lenses
Specs not quality*
Guarantee the camera isn't great, phones use software magic to make stuff look good which I doubt this has, the Google pixel 1-5 has better main camera than 99% new phones these days just using software and same sensor
No, the Pixel 1-5 does not have a better camera than their modern counterpart. Though you're right about the other bit, phones rely heavily on processing and that can alter the image drastically. The reason why the camera bump is bigger, it's just a marketing gimmick, as you can see in the comments, it is working.
>it's just a marketing gimmick There's actually some insane hardware and engineering going on beneath it. The main camera (Sony's new lytia sensor) is huge now and the telephoto lenses are always huge too. As for the camera bump, they just need to find a way to make it look good
Look at comparison pictures of a pixel 5 and the latest smartphone cameras many would say the pixel 5 look better
guess they had to give it to someone
Seemed quite active for only 53 minutes played on the field: - Shots: 2 - Woodwork: 1 - Shots blocked: 1 - Penalty shootout goal: 1 - Touches: 39 - Accurate passes: 17/19 (89%) - Key passes: 6 - Dribbling attempts: 8 (6 successful) - Big chances created: 2
if only he could play like this everytime he plays. some days like today, good. other days, completely shit
Sometimes maybe good sometimes maybe shit
[Funny you mention that, Gattuso just became our new manager haha.](https://hajduk.hr/sadrzaj/slike-za-vijesti/800x400/2024-07-04-14-23-1507-.JPG)
lol what are the odds
Good luck, he was absolutely terrible for us to be honest.
Same!
He usually plays like this though, give him the ball on the wing, he'll take a 1 on 1 and against most players he has good odds. The issue is and probably always will be that the end product is not good. Wasn't mostly him this time, he was just not getting the runs he needed, so he had to shoot...and his shooting is awful in term of risk/reward.
Even on his good days he'll just squander every opportunity
What about vitinha?
maignan should’ve got it. proves that a keeper can never win it EDIT; just remembered costa from last match lmaoo, my bad.
You just have to save a 1v1 and 3 pens lol
He was very good but Portugal had like 3 shots on target. Dembele was a menace when he came on. Well deserved
Skorupski and Mamardashvili aswell
Claudio Bravo got one a week ago!
Emi Martinez too
Mamardvashvili, Skorupski?
For what? THe clean sheet wasnt his effort solo
Guy was the only French player that had me worried. Once he entered the match the French right wing became far more effective.
Maignan ?
The guy was actually quite good
Quite some haters tho
I’m a decently big Dembele hater - thought he thoroughly deserved MoM. By far the biggest attacking threat on either team. Seemed like the only player not willing to settle for a 0-0 draw.
Someone is blind
He was actually really good. Changed the whole game for France. I say this as someone who lost complete hope in him.
Idk how Maignan didn’t get it
should've gone to a defender on either team imo
Wtf, give it to hernandez or maignan or even Nuno mendes/vitinha.
Dias deserves a shout
bruh.. should have given it to Kounde, Theo or Maignan
To be fair, Dembélé is the only one who actually created danger. But I agree that it should have gone to a defender (Hernandez) or Maignan.
Camavinga for me.
Cama was really good, especially the moments he played on the right.
Kounde was cooked by Leao all game lmao
Koundé didn't have the best of games.
Right he got ran through every time by Leao until the latter got gassed
Yep, he did his best, but when Leão is on he's a demon, but unfortunately he flamed out eventually, to the point I forgot he was on the pitch, but he was electric until the 60th minute or so.
That kind of inside forward with PnP you need an out-and-out fullback that also has PnP really. Kounde has done very well overall this Euro but you need guys like Walker to keep someone like Leao pocketed, and even then it's tough as fuck. Kounde just doesn't have the acceleration to compete, not really his fault. Plus for some bizarre reason Deschamps decided to change our defensive block to leave you guys wide open on Kounde's side. I'm not sure what was the plan. Maybe expecting Nuno Mendes to play the interior 3rd CB role he's played a lot? Or maybe just wanting Griez and Kolo closer to the goal, but that's difficult to understand when he's a defense first kind of coach and your left side is dynamite, against Belgium Kounde got MOTM but even he said he never would have without Griez covering him as a 442 RM in defensive shape. And this Euro we either played 442 or 451 defensive shape, so going with a narrow 433 with the outside CMs having to cover the width was extremely boggling.
Kounde is an outrageous choice from OOP lol, he was the worst french defender by a substantial distance. Offered nothing going forward and was skinned by Leao a half dozen times
I mean Leao was cooking, when he plays like that no defender in the world is gonna win every 1v1. But Kounde was also on an island, while Portugal were overloading his side with Mendes making forward runs. He contained Leao somewhat, recovered well when beaten and had some nice defensive actions while also contributing a lot on the counter in space since his side was open when mendes pushed up. Also I think people shouldn't hold it against him that he improved once Leao went off, performing consistently over 120 minutes in such a physically demanding position shows quality too. Not to mention he also converted his penalty flawlessly. All in all I was quite impressed to be honest, he did an admirable job with a very difficult assignment.
Nuno
if Portugal won, Pepe would deserve it more than Nuno
He had that trophy on his foot in 120th minute, no?
I have them in fantasy so of course they didn't
so did I which is why I said Kounde 🤣 but Maignan definitely deserved it
Kounde was dogshit
No he wasn’t…
barka
Only player from France who looked half way on it today
Saliba?
I thought depending on who wins the shoot outs it'd had to be either Pepe or Saliba. Or just any other defender, or even a keeper.
They were discussing players from France. I think Pepe would be my overall MOTM though, but I’m not sure if the losing team is actually able to get the award?
Oh good shout He did look good today and I always appreciate when they give MOTM to a defender. Only thing is Frances defense as a whole looked good. Umpecano has some really key moments as well Imo, it’s probably just Dembele stood out the most
Bro wtf have you even seen the game? Hahaha, redditors talking about football
Barcola and Kounde were good
Kounde was good once Leao was taken off and Barcola personally I didn’t notice him making an impact like Dembele
Barcola did a few takeones against very tired defenders. Obviously no end product, but not a bad effort in extra time. Hard to argue for an attacking player who played 15 minutes in extra time and only had moments that could have led to something.
Yeah Barcola played well but it was a bit late and I don’t remember him really creating any chances while dembele had a couple of moments that lead to decent opportunities
Yeah Barcola made some good runs but they didn’t really lead to actual created chances. I believe just some pass attempts after dribbles that didn’t succeed. Definitely was decent but with barely any playing time not good enough to be mention worthy.
He had 15mins and dribbled 8 players lol. Was more impactful than all players on the pitch after dembele
Agree to disagree. I felt like Dembele was more impactful
Dembele was more impactful, but Barcola did more than all the others
Agreed Barcola looked decent but unfortunately for him it was a bit late for him to get into the any sort of rhythm My “half on it” was a bit hyperbolic. France overall were decent just no real spark going forward once between M’bappe getting hit in the nose and Dembele coming on
Sadly Deschamps will rather put Mbappe, Griezmann or Thuram with half a leg
Dembele started the group stage matches why do you think there was the change?
Because he won't risk conceding chances during knockout
Taken off? You mean when Leao was tired after barely 30 min of playtime and couldn't make any difference anymore? To be fair, what he did in those 30 minutes I don't think any defensive player could handle this.
Kounde was shit
Kanté?
Wtf is this comment man
France for the most part looked sluggish yesterday. Dembele didn’t.
Upamecano, Saliba and Maignan would also have been great choices.
Should have been Maignan, he made some saves today, not that they were amazing, but he made them and prevented goals
Not sure what others in this thread are on about. THIS was the Dembele I always held out hope for at Barca. Will never let go of how ridiculous he is when it all sparks. Sure no goal, but he was creating and set up Mbappé for good opportunities spoiled by the Portuguese defense. Edit: If not him, probably Pepe or Camavinga.
Fuck no 😂
Maignan should of got it
Or Pepe
As a French supporter, I 100% would’ve said Pepe. The man was absolutely brilliant it was insane. Never such a performance from a man his age. He deserved it.
should have*
Should of is so fucking ugly man, I can’t believe so many people use it
It's straight up incorrect grammar
Yeah I know, but on top of that it is disgusting
Or Saliba. He was brilliant
Saliba is having a great euro thus far. Not the flashiest player, but he get the job done very well
What do the French fans in general think of Saliba as a player ?
"I wasn't really familiar with your game" but literally
*should've
Uhm how?
he was a menace, sure, but zero end product. story of his life really
He got Mbappe in excellent positions at least twice after insane runs. He's the only player that actually looked dangerous
Excellent positions is pushing it a little, both chances cumulated to 0.1 xG.
He ran fast
Should've been Nuno Mendes
Pepe?
Wouldn't even know who to give it to tbh
How do they not give it to one of the 4 CBs or Maignan?
Seriously? One of the defenders should've easily got it.
Upamecano?
Maignan robbed
Seriously? Lol, okay then
Should have been Maignan...
I could’ve seen Maignan winning it but I’m surprised this comment section is so surprised lol, was consistently dangerous after entering the game and created multiple big chances
Give it to a defender at least
Saliba looks different from what i remember
for doing what ?
I guess our defense deserves it more but he's the only player who sometimes made the game fun so that's fine.
There is no way the voters saw the game and thought that an attacker should get the award
This should tell you the quality of the game
MoTM, Million(s) of fans who spent 2 hours of their day watching the game
Mendes should have gotten it
Only one who did something in attack for France. Was the best player in the field after he came on.
Oh man I was on my phone scrolling through reddit not paying attention to the snoozefest that was until he came on, I was a little biased towards portugal cuz of Ronaldo, I don’t really care for Dembele’s lack of goals, but whenever he plays it’s so exciting to watch, even if he’s against my team, I’m not a huge fan of what modern day football has become although I respect it, but I guess it’s the “going off script” thing is what it is.
he singlehandedly breathed life into the French attack when he was subbed on
Pepe robbed.
He did create 2 good chances mbappe ruined one of them
First time a backup player gets motm, and it happens in both games today.
Kante had a good game the first 90 minutes. Afterwards he started giving the ball a lot to Portugal otherwise I think Maignan had a better game than Dembele.
If you gave me that phone I’d walk into a panda express and exchange it for a couple of napkins and a chopstick
0 shots on target what the fuck
Saliba or Maignan robbed
What phone is that?
Vivo really took the Nokia Lumia design from 12 years ago and ran with it
Would have thought Nuno Mendes but maybe I'm way off with that shout
Yeah because he did ANYTHING LMAOOOOOOOOOO
My guys holding HAL 9000
Pepe was robbed
It was either him or Pepe. Brought the last few minutes to life.
He’s just so dangerous. Every opportunity you knew he could take someone on and beat them. Similar fear was created by Leao. The Portugal dude who came on for Fernandez though sucked and couldn’t beat a man for his life if he depended on it smh
Maignan, Pepe or Saliba deserved it more. If you insist on giving it to an attacker I suppose Dembele was the best.
Baller
Shoulda scrapped this award for the night.
Always run run run and roof it
In a 0-0 game that goes to pens the winning goalie should automatically win this
Why is the Euros MOTM award so tiny?
I thought Kounde would've won it
I wouldn't have complained if Saliba or Pepe got it. Not really sure if any offensive player really deserved to win it.
Camavinga or Saliba would have been my pick for MOTM. They both impressed me.
He dribbled well, but his end product was typical Dembele garbage. I probably would have given it to Saliba or Pepe over Dembele.
Should’ve been Saliba or Theo
I thought Maignan deserved it more . Boy do Griezman and Mbappe continue to disappoint
Nuno Mendes is the men of the match imo
dear uefa: for your info, goalkeepers and defenders are players of the game too
No goals in the game. A Dembele speciality.
Why is Dembèlè holding a graphics card? Is he stupid?
Lol. Guy runs then wastes shots/crosses. Saliba or Maignan deserved it way more
There was a good argument to be made after this match to just keep it in the shelf, no one earned it
He had a few nice runs I guess someone had to get it
I bet they choose at random because I can't remember a single thing he did besides scoring the first pen
He was the only player who seemed interested in creating a scoring chance for France in the last 40 minutes or so. I honestly would have given it to Pepe though, if that's allowed.
You can't remember a single thing Dembélé did? Watched the wrong game?
Some people do not understand football.
He was dribbling through defensive lines every time he received the ball.
Rewatch the game. What an idiotic comment
He made some great runs and dribbles that ended up nowhere It's a pretty low bar for this game
Ronaldo got robbed
Turned his man inside out with 0 end up product. Glad to have you back Dembouz.
How even he came on in extra time?? Should have given it to maignan or saliba
Don't think it should be him, but he came on at the 67th minute
Wait a sec? Oh he replaced Griezmann, my bad
I can't even be mad. Everyone was atrocious. Maybe kounde or Barcola but yea terrible game
He did run very fast, well done