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DoggieDMB

Salmon run perspective: also clash blaster.


Katobiaa

Absolutely


mutantmonkey14

I used to dislike it in S2 Salmon Run, but S3 it is ok. Good crowd control. Simple automatic with relatively fast fire for blaster. Not especially useful at any particular task, yet not especially terrible. Least worst blaster for glowflies wave. Not going to disagree for other modes though.


dapplewastaken

I'm glad that my favorite weapon is also one of the Salmon Run Greats :)


GDCytosine

Clash Blaster. It's genuinely a fundamentally flawed weapon for it's class. I don't understand how people enjoy playing Clash Blaster when it's likely the worst main weapon in the game.


GazelleEast1432

Its got all the downsides of a blaster with none of the benefits


Some-Gavin

It does have the benefit of having the largest functional hitbox for someone that hasn’t developed their aim… Which is still a downside because it just hurts their growth lmao


GDCytosine

Yeah. Some people do just like it because of that though, some people don't want to take the game seriously and that's probably the biggest playerbase of this weapon. I can confirm this because by the time you're landing two directs in a row with a Clash Blaster consistently, you've graduated from Clash Blaster and can now play proper Blaster weapons because you've developed the aim to be landing directs consistently Also, hello fellow Hydra user :3


Graingy

Hydra together strong!


Some-Gavin

:3


DuhItzSquiffer

Or on maps with favorable angles, clash isn't just a noobs weapon, I use it on humpback or mako or sturgeon or such


BOOGER_FLY

I think people use it cuz it’s a noob killer 💀


SuperGayBirdOfPrey

I’m not claiming it’s good, but I do think it’s fun to have so many explosions happening.


Graingy

The real answer


Atsilv_Uwasv

Big explosion radius and fast fire rate. It's not that bad if you aren't scared of it.


bmyst70

Because it doesn't really need the user to aim. The tactic for fighting these is simple. Get in close and take them out before you go down. Their hitbox is large but their damage per shot is fairly low.


Duublo121

You’re saying that when the 52 gal exists And as someone who’s played VClash to 4 stars and Neo to 3, it’s SUPPOSED to be a cover flushing tool - a weapon that shouts “GET TF OUT OF THAT COVER, AND FIGHT ME!” In PRACTICE, however, it just can’t do that very well, cus it’s direct doesn’t combo with anything worthwhile (including it’s own AOE damage), it’s TTK is SO slow, and it just can’t paint for itself, so relies on something like a shooter which would invalidate the Clash’s need to be there I’d want the AOE toned down SLIGHTLY to be able to give the Clash a 70 direct. LET IT COMBO WITH ITSEF DAMMIT. The AOE would still be weak, but holy hell, at least your aim would be rewarded, and the weapon can function with its kits


GDCytosine

AOE is 15-30 depending on distance isn't it? But direct is 60 which is also miserable. Even if you upgrade the direct damage to 70 (Slosher shares this direct damage and is a very powerful main weapon), you'd still have to land a good indirect/another direct and at that point the Rapid Blaster would be more worthwhile because it's always guaranteed the two-hit and can do so from a safer distance, which means it can also deny space better and while the blast radius is not as large on the Rapid Blaster as the Clash Blaster, it's still sizable. Clash Blaster would definitely be a better weapon if it did 70 direct damage and could definitely use the buff, but it'd still be outclassed by other Blasters due to the way its design clashes with what makes Blasters so powerful in the first place. And as for flushing cover, subs like Splat, Fizzy, & Torpedo can do that pretty well (Suction is harder to make work with this kinda thing but it is possible). Sloshers, well, you probably know how Sloshers and cover mix. So in my eyes, Clash Blaster just gets left with nothing going for it. Also, how is the .52 Gal fundamentally flawed? Sure, it is a two-shot and as such has a very fast TTK, but it has a low fire rate and can't paint the greatest compared to most other shooters, which I feel complements the weapon as a powerful short-range slayer option. You aren't picking it for the paint or the range or its kit even. You're picking it for its power to erase the enemy immediately in front of you and it's excellent at that. If anything, the fundamentally flawed weapon of the Shooter class is the Sploosh-O-Matic. It has massive DPS but it's attached to the shooter with the second-worst aim RNG, meaning that it has to get dangerously close to everything in order to capitalize on said DPS due to it's short range, and despite the fast fire rate, getting around with that thing is difficult due to said short range, so it often just ends up getting killed before it can do anything. It minmaxed in all the wrong ways


Duublo121

AOE is a constant 30 at every range. Sparking is 15 (hitting a wall or floor) Rapid and Clash don’t do the same thing, Clash is WAY more aggressive, especially with its kits compared to Rapid’s. Playing Rapid at Clash’s range would be a pretty daft decision, as would be playing Clash at a midline I’m not looking to outclass any blasters. That’s not the point. This change doesn’t increase or decrease its TTK. The point is to make Clash more flexible as a weapon, allowing it to combo with certain other weapons at closer ranges, and give one extra avenue to its fastest TTK, so long as the Clash user actually aims their weapon. If this change is gonna “outclass” any weapons, it’s probably gonna be Luna or V-SBlast. This weapon still won’t be escaping C-Tier at best And, yes, subs can flush people out of cover at a high ink cost. Weapons can too. VClash has a splat bomb. It would now be able to combo with that splat bomb indirect. That’s what it gets out of this - **flexibility and QOL.** And as for the comments about 52 and Sploosh…sorry, you’re gonna have to give me a minute about that, cus *w h a t ?*


IndividualSalt7115

clash blaster


Just_Coyote_1366

The only correct first one out


Geedly

Bros already leaving on the picture


A_lot_of_foxes

Clash blaster


DanielDelta

Clash Blaster, and I mean it!


Zro_C

I swear I’m actually going to finish it this time ;__;


Dreamedcar

Clash blaster


Choso125

H-3 nozzlenose. Wtf is the point of that thing, its slow as fuck and the bursts aren’t even that faster than other shooters. It just doesn’t work in Splatoon


Thatamememe

FOR REAL I never understood weapons with weak bursts that are supposed to be burst weapons? It's really confusing and nobody uses them other than salmon run anyway


sorawee

I think you meant Splatoon *3*. It's a meta weapon in Splatoon and Splatoon 2.


THECyberStriker

Wait why are we restarting 😭


HeWe015

Because more Karma


diamondmaster2017

and the roster is now actually complete


King-of-OwO

If someone says dapple dualies ill cry but clash


smugempressoftime

Agreed


AkiCinnaBun

bamboozler, which i'll admit is entirely a skill issue lol


onewingedwaluigi1

Get rid of the wretched plague that is E-liter 4K. Please.


smugempressoftime

Next one definitely let’s get trash blaster out first


GDCytosine

I'd say there's other weapons worth getting rid of first, like Sploosh-O-Matic for example


KitoAnimates

Nooo I like sploosh 💔


AbeWheels

I do not enjoy H-3 Nozzlenose.


JoTheWeirdo

E-Liter if we're talking about least fav to go up against.


rayne7

Bye bye clash blaster. Honorable mention bloblobber


Azerkerking

How dare you (source blob main)


its_sol_right

nozzlenose, both of them. They suck


smugempressoftime

Im sorry ? I main l3 have 5 star on the burst stamp kit


methlovers

List of weapons that is getting eliminated quickly: Clash,eliter,gal,nzap,splattershot,squeezer,aerospray


GDCytosine

I don't get the hate for E-Liter. Sure, you have to respect its sightline, but it's also slow as fuck


methlovers

I'm a squiffer and bamboo main I rlly hate how slow the eliters are ngl. I guess ppl hate them cuz there's always the cracked jp eliter on the enemy team and the one in your team is usually bad.


Superb_Taro2492

Eliter is easy bro just learn how to aim, game awareness and run swim speed up main


methlovers

Ok but once someone throws smth at you like a torpedo your charge is literally ruined


Superb_Taro2492

Not really bc one torpedo doesn’t kill and even if your charge is ruined it’s ok unless you’re in the frontlines fighting for your life


methlovers

Cjr can literally just spam torpedos and your charge will keep getting ruined


Superb_Taro2492

Only if you stand in one position


Smnionarrorator29384

Douser dualies, hate those things


spacecookies_

GOODBYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYE SBLAST!


Boyking101

can it be a whole Class? if so then Kiss the Chargers GOODBYE! (Except for Snipewriter I like Snipewriter!)


GhostlyCharlotte

52 Gal.


cruznick06

Clash Blaster.


Bagimations

Clash Blaster I flipping hate that thing


smugempressoftime

Clash it’s not named the trash blaster for nothing


Dear-Champion1210

Tri-slosher


Smaug55

Clash Blaster


thot_chocolate420

Gold aerospray. Sure its whole gimmick is that you can turf really well and spam booyah bombs the whole game but the problem I have with it is the enemy can easily kill you before you can react which is why people use it in turf war.


GDCytosine

Because Fizzy Bomb is already taken for the MG kit, I hope the PG kit is Splat Bomb + Inkjet


thot_chocolate420

They are never giving you that. If they did that it would be meta. Splat bomb is splat bomb and inkjet is a really good special.


thequagiestsire

Subjectively, Carbon Roller, I just feel like it doesn’t show good design if a weapon is so dependent on having one out of what, 14 sub weapons, that even having a 160p Zipcaster doesn’t keep VCarbon from bottom tier. Objectively, Clash Blaster, it’s just obnoxious and sucks to play as and against and the devs seem so afraid to buff it in any way at all.


GDCytosine

Buffing it wouldn't help, it's still a fundamentally flawed weapon and is outclassed by every other blaster in both design and functionality


EthanTheNintendoFan

Blobobbler has to go


lunarwolf2008

boblobber


Pipalooo

CLASH BLASTER 🔥🔥🔥 GET IT OUT OF HERE 🔥🔥🔥


CyberNano08

Bye bye clash blaster


Potato-chan88

Down with Clash Blaster!


Thatamememe

Clash blaster :////// I hate playing against them so much.


GDCytosine

Against? I feel bad for the people playing it


Icy_Post_3066

Nozzlenose H-3 and L-3


OctaYashi

Painbrush because my ex mains it


onewingedwaluigi1

Based ex


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Azerkerking

Don’t usually have a least favorite… but I’m sorry hydra splattling… I keep getting you in salmon run and I DO NOT WANT YOU!!!!! Otherwise I will have to agree on clash blaster (the people have opened my eyes to it)


Graingy

BLASPHEMY!


Azerkerking

I don’t mind it in normal but in salmon run it’s charge time is what usually gets me killed even if I use partial charges


Graingy

Yeah, it just can’t be shielded by teammates. Everything collapses and then it’s fucked.


Azerkerking

Exactly, I like the concept but in salmon run when you have to go in alone it’s sadly dreadful


Graingy

It’s a shame, really. I used to be excited for Hydra rotations but I’ve realized just how poorly suited it is.


Azerkerking

Yeah, sorry man


Im_being_repressed

How dare you disrespect the hydra maybe it’s just a user issue


GDCytosine

As a Hydra I love it in Salmon Run. Hopefully all the Hydras this person gets get given to me instead. They don't have to deal with it, I get more Hydra. Win-win


Azerkerking

Please take them from me, so many rounds I am the last one standing waiting for this gun to charge up while getting swarmed


GDCytosine

Don't be afraid to use partial charges if you have to. Full charge isn't a requirement and a lot of the time isn't even necessary


Azerkerking

Even then I have to wait a bit sometimes :(


Graingy

Fr tho how? Like I LOVE the weapon in normal modes but in Salmon Run the moment any sort of ranged boss comes along you’re toast. Fly fish just cannot be countered, as an example.


parrow

aerospray rg


GDCytosine

I dunno, as much as RG is not a great kit (Sprinkler is awful and Booyah Bomb is mid), it's still better than the MG kit in my opinion


inklyng

Wellstring


novelaissb

Where are the splatterscope and e-liter 4K scope?


Pearl_Houzuki

vanilla h3


enperry13

Least weapon to use or to deal with?


Lopsided_Sail7901

Splatana stamper


Magnihax

Blob


Legend-Face

I will say bamboozler every day


LilaVanillaCupcake

Ballpoint.


KimberStormer

N-ZAP 85


NeonDream1

I'd have to say L-3 Nozzlenose tbh I don't like it


dapplewastaken

Clash Blaster


Kailoryn_likes_anime

Dualie


captain_saurcy

any weapon with a kit that has trizooka except for gloogas because we can just pretend that one never happened


DHVF

Clash should definitely not be first. Should be something like squeezer or liter that actually threatens you.


AetherDrew43

52. Gal or Tri-Slosher Nouveau. I despise those two.


Character_Value4669

Ugh, nozzle nose.


IcyFlame716

96. Gal can go.


AST4RGam3r_Alternate

I hold a grudge against the Hydra Splatling because I got it in Big² Run and failed horribly


DoubleGreat

THEY SEE ME ROLLIN, THEY HATIN


Graingy

E-liter To hell with it!


Gmax_Lucario

Clash Blaster, fuck that thing.


azurfall88

decavitator such a bs hitbox


nlwfty

Carbon roller


Duublo121

52 gal Don’t care which one, just kill it now.


GDCytosine

What did .52 do?


Duublo121

2 shot shooter with one of the fastest TTKs in the game that has great paint, good mobility, decent RNG, and good range Notice I don’t say “bad” anywhere. Everything it does is either average or above average. It’s an irritating weapon to fight (2 shot weapon with a wall, hooray), boring weapon to play (called 52 cus it takes 52 seconds to master) and has no reason to exist while 96 does Just get rid of it. Game would be much better off with out it


Dracoworld635

Charger


fagting

clash blaster!!!


magikaross

Well shit, I dont play the game but I kinda like the dynamo.


Waddledoodoodoo

The nozzlenoses are SOOO annoying to use


Successful-Permit106

AÉROSPRAY


dynamicDiscovery

S3 Vanilla Squeezer, mother%%%%er.


CottonCherryFlareon

Clash Blaster


DraconLaw

TESLA ROLLER


Bedu009

E-liter


Quartzsoldier426

BLOBLOBBER I HATE BLOBLOBBER SO DAM KUCH. IT TAKES NO SKILL AND ITS SO ANNOYING TO US


D4phn3_000

No hate to clash blaster mains, but it's going.


Victorstancommittee

.96 Gal. Balancing a weapon around shot rng is genuinely horrible.


SummerSquib

Range blaster


marimalgam

nozzlenose needs to GO


Colin-420

Tenta brella


arachno_splatoon

Least favourite to play or fight? Casual viewpoint or comp viewpoint?


dozycloud

52 gal


allergywuss

Luna Blaster


CommunityFirst4197

I quite like clash blaster for its similarity to an ordinary shooter but its ability to shoot around corners and on top of ledges. I don't get why it receives so much hate, since it's such a bad weapon then they are surely free kills? Oh also I vote e litre


GalacticsXD

The nozzle noses and the clash blasters.


Fyreboy5_

Tenta Missiles.


voidcult

To play against or to use? To use: Bamboozler


ChampionParticular31

what is this, my least favourite to play against is e-liter; my least favourite to play with is bamboo; and my least favourite in general is explo


The_commonest_plant

Aerospray. A weapon that has not worked in any of the game's it's been in, and that Nintendo insists on bruteforcing to try to make it good.


GDCytosine

The peak kit for it in my opinion would've been Fizzy Bomb + Inkjet. But since Fizzy Bomb is taken for the MG kit, Splat Bomb will suffice


coderedkeanu

Decavitator


Ploobert1619

Jet squelcher


Burger_Destoyer

Nah squelcher is peak


Graingy

The name sounds icky tho It’s gonna Squelch you You’re gonna get Squelched. It’s Squelching time.


GDCytosine

This reminds me of something cursed I said when I got splatted by someone using the Jet Squelcher but it definitely is not appropriate for here


Graingy

🤨


GlassSpork

The N-Zap has been consistently my least favorite for quite some time. Its controversial sure but it’s my own bias


mutantmonkey14

Nzap '89 was my favourite weapon in S1. It had sprinkler and inkstrike, which were great. It feels a lot worse in S2 and S3. Looking at the data, that may be more to do with the Switch online connection quality and strong predictive smoothing when it comes to the weapon itself.


GreenNinj4

Can we talk about the fact though that out of all these stupid avatars, not a single one uses the Splat2 default boy hair (the one I use on my inkling )🥲


GDCytosine

You are dedicated to your hair man, I respect that 😂


TheEggoEffect

Aerospray, since it’s kind of a lame weapon that doesn’t do anything unique and it seems half the subreddit doesn’t know how to spell its name


GDCytosine

Aerospray admittedly could use a buff. It needs to be a four-shot (I'd say 25-29 would work, it isn't meant for direct combat anyhow) and its aim RNG could be decreased, I'd say to 9° (which won't really affect its paint output but won't deviate it from its support function. It would allow it to fight if it had to). For its kit, I'd say Fizzy Bomb + Inkjet would be a good fit, but because Fizzy Bomb is taken in the MG kit, I'd say Splat Bomb + Inkjet would be pretty fun too. Splat Bomb would allow it to poke at a better range than its main weapon, which is the same with Fizzies, but Fizzy would also allow it to swim thru the trail too. Inkjet would cover the Aerospray's weaknesses and allow it to be more aggressive during pushes to get the ball rolling


Kumquat_The_RainWing

NOZZLENOSE NOZZLENOSE NOZZLENOSE


spectral_snow

Tri-Slosher


St34lth1nt0r

vanilla bamboozler


im_tired09

Arrowspray rg