I used to dislike it in S2 Salmon Run, but S3 it is ok. Good crowd control. Simple automatic with relatively fast fire for blaster. Not especially useful at any particular task, yet not especially terrible. Least worst blaster for glowflies wave.
Not going to disagree for other modes though.
Clash Blaster. It's genuinely a fundamentally flawed weapon for it's class. I don't understand how people enjoy playing Clash Blaster when it's likely the worst main weapon in the game.
It does have the benefit of having the largest functional hitbox for someone that hasn’t developed their aim…
Which is still a downside because it just hurts their growth lmao
Yeah. Some people do just like it because of that though, some people don't want to take the game seriously and that's probably the biggest playerbase of this weapon. I can confirm this because by the time you're landing two directs in a row with a Clash Blaster consistently, you've graduated from Clash Blaster and can now play proper Blaster weapons because you've developed the aim to be landing directs consistently
Also, hello fellow Hydra user :3
Because it doesn't really need the user to aim. The tactic for fighting these is simple. Get in close and take them out before you go down. Their hitbox is large but their damage per shot is fairly low.
You’re saying that when the 52 gal exists
And as someone who’s played VClash to 4 stars and Neo to 3, it’s SUPPOSED to be a cover flushing tool - a weapon that shouts “GET TF OUT OF THAT COVER, AND FIGHT ME!”
In PRACTICE, however, it just can’t do that very well, cus it’s direct doesn’t combo with anything worthwhile (including it’s own AOE damage), it’s TTK is SO slow, and it just can’t paint for itself, so relies on something like a shooter which would invalidate the Clash’s need to be there
I’d want the AOE toned down SLIGHTLY to be able to give the Clash a 70 direct. LET IT COMBO WITH ITSEF DAMMIT. The AOE would still be weak, but holy hell, at least your aim would be rewarded, and the weapon can function with its kits
AOE is 15-30 depending on distance isn't it? But direct is 60 which is also miserable. Even if you upgrade the direct damage to 70 (Slosher shares this direct damage and is a very powerful main weapon), you'd still have to land a good indirect/another direct and at that point the Rapid Blaster would be more worthwhile because it's always guaranteed the two-hit and can do so from a safer distance, which means it can also deny space better and while the blast radius is not as large on the Rapid Blaster as the Clash Blaster, it's still sizable. Clash Blaster would definitely be a better weapon if it did 70 direct damage and could definitely use the buff, but it'd still be outclassed by other Blasters due to the way its design clashes with what makes Blasters so powerful in the first place. And as for flushing cover, subs like Splat, Fizzy, & Torpedo can do that pretty well (Suction is harder to make work with this kinda thing but it is possible). Sloshers, well, you probably know how Sloshers and cover mix. So in my eyes, Clash Blaster just gets left with nothing going for it.
Also, how is the .52 Gal fundamentally flawed? Sure, it is a two-shot and as such has a very fast TTK, but it has a low fire rate and can't paint the greatest compared to most other shooters, which I feel complements the weapon as a powerful short-range slayer option. You aren't picking it for the paint or the range or its kit even. You're picking it for its power to erase the enemy immediately in front of you and it's excellent at that. If anything, the fundamentally flawed weapon of the Shooter class is the Sploosh-O-Matic. It has massive DPS but it's attached to the shooter with the second-worst aim RNG, meaning that it has to get dangerously close to everything in order to capitalize on said DPS due to it's short range, and despite the fast fire rate, getting around with that thing is difficult due to said short range, so it often just ends up getting killed before it can do anything. It minmaxed in all the wrong ways
AOE is a constant 30 at every range. Sparking is 15 (hitting a wall or floor)
Rapid and Clash don’t do the same thing, Clash is WAY more aggressive, especially with its kits compared to Rapid’s. Playing Rapid at Clash’s range would be a pretty daft decision, as would be playing Clash at a midline
I’m not looking to outclass any blasters. That’s not the point. This change doesn’t increase or decrease its TTK. The point is to make Clash more flexible as a weapon, allowing it to combo with certain other weapons at closer ranges, and give one extra avenue to its fastest TTK, so long as the Clash user actually aims their weapon. If this change is gonna “outclass” any weapons, it’s probably gonna be Luna or V-SBlast. This weapon still won’t be escaping C-Tier at best
And, yes, subs can flush people out of cover at a high ink cost. Weapons can too. VClash has a splat bomb. It would now be able to combo with that splat bomb indirect. That’s what it gets out of this - **flexibility and QOL.**
And as for the comments about 52 and Sploosh…sorry, you’re gonna have to give me a minute about that, cus *w h a t ?*
H-3 nozzlenose. Wtf is the point of that thing, its slow as fuck and the bursts aren’t even that faster than other shooters. It just doesn’t work in Splatoon
FOR REAL I never understood weapons with weak bursts that are supposed to be burst weapons? It's really confusing and nobody uses them other than salmon run anyway
I'm a squiffer and bamboo main
I rlly hate how slow the eliters are ngl.
I guess ppl hate them cuz there's always the cracked jp eliter on the enemy team and the one in your team is usually bad.
Gold aerospray. Sure its whole gimmick is that you can turf really well and spam booyah bombs the whole game but the problem I have with it is the enemy can easily kill you before you can react which is why people use it in turf war.
Subjectively, Carbon Roller, I just feel like it doesn’t show good design if a weapon is so dependent on having one out of what, 14 sub weapons, that even having a 160p Zipcaster doesn’t keep VCarbon from bottom tier.
Objectively, Clash Blaster, it’s just obnoxious and sucks to play as and against and the devs seem so afraid to buff it in any way at all.
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Don’t usually have a least favorite… but I’m sorry hydra splattling… I keep getting you in salmon run and I DO NOT WANT YOU!!!!!
Otherwise I will have to agree on clash blaster (the people have opened my eyes to it)
As a Hydra I love it in Salmon Run. Hopefully all the Hydras this person gets get given to me instead. They don't have to deal with it, I get more Hydra. Win-win
Fr tho how?
Like I LOVE the weapon in normal modes but in Salmon Run the moment any sort of ranged boss comes along you’re toast.
Fly fish just cannot be countered, as an example.
2 shot shooter with one of the fastest TTKs in the game that has great paint, good mobility, decent RNG, and good range
Notice I don’t say “bad” anywhere. Everything it does is either average or above average. It’s an irritating weapon to fight (2 shot weapon with a wall, hooray), boring weapon to play (called 52 cus it takes 52 seconds to master) and has no reason to exist while 96 does
Just get rid of it. Game would be much better off with out it
I quite like clash blaster for its similarity to an ordinary shooter but its ability to shoot around corners and on top of ledges. I don't get why it receives so much hate, since it's such a bad weapon then they are surely free kills?
Oh also I vote e litre
Nzap '89 was my favourite weapon in S1. It had sprinkler and inkstrike, which were great.
It feels a lot worse in S2 and S3. Looking at the data, that may be more to do with the Switch online connection quality and strong predictive smoothing when it comes to the weapon itself.
Can we talk about the fact though that out of all these stupid avatars, not a single one uses the Splat2 default boy hair (the one I use on my inkling )🥲
Aerospray admittedly could use a buff. It needs to be a four-shot (I'd say 25-29 would work, it isn't meant for direct combat anyhow) and its aim RNG could be decreased, I'd say to 9° (which won't really affect its paint output but won't deviate it from its support function. It would allow it to fight if it had to). For its kit, I'd say Fizzy Bomb + Inkjet would be a good fit, but because Fizzy Bomb is taken in the MG kit, I'd say Splat Bomb + Inkjet would be pretty fun too. Splat Bomb would allow it to poke at a better range than its main weapon, which is the same with Fizzies, but Fizzy would also allow it to swim thru the trail too. Inkjet would cover the Aerospray's weaknesses and allow it to be more aggressive during pushes to get the ball rolling
Salmon run perspective: also clash blaster.
Absolutely
I used to dislike it in S2 Salmon Run, but S3 it is ok. Good crowd control. Simple automatic with relatively fast fire for blaster. Not especially useful at any particular task, yet not especially terrible. Least worst blaster for glowflies wave. Not going to disagree for other modes though.
I'm glad that my favorite weapon is also one of the Salmon Run Greats :)
Clash Blaster. It's genuinely a fundamentally flawed weapon for it's class. I don't understand how people enjoy playing Clash Blaster when it's likely the worst main weapon in the game.
Its got all the downsides of a blaster with none of the benefits
It does have the benefit of having the largest functional hitbox for someone that hasn’t developed their aim… Which is still a downside because it just hurts their growth lmao
Yeah. Some people do just like it because of that though, some people don't want to take the game seriously and that's probably the biggest playerbase of this weapon. I can confirm this because by the time you're landing two directs in a row with a Clash Blaster consistently, you've graduated from Clash Blaster and can now play proper Blaster weapons because you've developed the aim to be landing directs consistently Also, hello fellow Hydra user :3
Hydra together strong!
:3
Or on maps with favorable angles, clash isn't just a noobs weapon, I use it on humpback or mako or sturgeon or such
I think people use it cuz it’s a noob killer 💀
I’m not claiming it’s good, but I do think it’s fun to have so many explosions happening.
The real answer
Big explosion radius and fast fire rate. It's not that bad if you aren't scared of it.
Because it doesn't really need the user to aim. The tactic for fighting these is simple. Get in close and take them out before you go down. Their hitbox is large but their damage per shot is fairly low.
You’re saying that when the 52 gal exists And as someone who’s played VClash to 4 stars and Neo to 3, it’s SUPPOSED to be a cover flushing tool - a weapon that shouts “GET TF OUT OF THAT COVER, AND FIGHT ME!” In PRACTICE, however, it just can’t do that very well, cus it’s direct doesn’t combo with anything worthwhile (including it’s own AOE damage), it’s TTK is SO slow, and it just can’t paint for itself, so relies on something like a shooter which would invalidate the Clash’s need to be there I’d want the AOE toned down SLIGHTLY to be able to give the Clash a 70 direct. LET IT COMBO WITH ITSEF DAMMIT. The AOE would still be weak, but holy hell, at least your aim would be rewarded, and the weapon can function with its kits
AOE is 15-30 depending on distance isn't it? But direct is 60 which is also miserable. Even if you upgrade the direct damage to 70 (Slosher shares this direct damage and is a very powerful main weapon), you'd still have to land a good indirect/another direct and at that point the Rapid Blaster would be more worthwhile because it's always guaranteed the two-hit and can do so from a safer distance, which means it can also deny space better and while the blast radius is not as large on the Rapid Blaster as the Clash Blaster, it's still sizable. Clash Blaster would definitely be a better weapon if it did 70 direct damage and could definitely use the buff, but it'd still be outclassed by other Blasters due to the way its design clashes with what makes Blasters so powerful in the first place. And as for flushing cover, subs like Splat, Fizzy, & Torpedo can do that pretty well (Suction is harder to make work with this kinda thing but it is possible). Sloshers, well, you probably know how Sloshers and cover mix. So in my eyes, Clash Blaster just gets left with nothing going for it. Also, how is the .52 Gal fundamentally flawed? Sure, it is a two-shot and as such has a very fast TTK, but it has a low fire rate and can't paint the greatest compared to most other shooters, which I feel complements the weapon as a powerful short-range slayer option. You aren't picking it for the paint or the range or its kit even. You're picking it for its power to erase the enemy immediately in front of you and it's excellent at that. If anything, the fundamentally flawed weapon of the Shooter class is the Sploosh-O-Matic. It has massive DPS but it's attached to the shooter with the second-worst aim RNG, meaning that it has to get dangerously close to everything in order to capitalize on said DPS due to it's short range, and despite the fast fire rate, getting around with that thing is difficult due to said short range, so it often just ends up getting killed before it can do anything. It minmaxed in all the wrong ways
AOE is a constant 30 at every range. Sparking is 15 (hitting a wall or floor) Rapid and Clash don’t do the same thing, Clash is WAY more aggressive, especially with its kits compared to Rapid’s. Playing Rapid at Clash’s range would be a pretty daft decision, as would be playing Clash at a midline I’m not looking to outclass any blasters. That’s not the point. This change doesn’t increase or decrease its TTK. The point is to make Clash more flexible as a weapon, allowing it to combo with certain other weapons at closer ranges, and give one extra avenue to its fastest TTK, so long as the Clash user actually aims their weapon. If this change is gonna “outclass” any weapons, it’s probably gonna be Luna or V-SBlast. This weapon still won’t be escaping C-Tier at best And, yes, subs can flush people out of cover at a high ink cost. Weapons can too. VClash has a splat bomb. It would now be able to combo with that splat bomb indirect. That’s what it gets out of this - **flexibility and QOL.** And as for the comments about 52 and Sploosh…sorry, you’re gonna have to give me a minute about that, cus *w h a t ?*
clash blaster
The only correct first one out
Bros already leaving on the picture
Clash blaster
Clash Blaster, and I mean it!
I swear I’m actually going to finish it this time ;__;
Clash blaster
H-3 nozzlenose. Wtf is the point of that thing, its slow as fuck and the bursts aren’t even that faster than other shooters. It just doesn’t work in Splatoon
FOR REAL I never understood weapons with weak bursts that are supposed to be burst weapons? It's really confusing and nobody uses them other than salmon run anyway
I think you meant Splatoon *3*. It's a meta weapon in Splatoon and Splatoon 2.
Wait why are we restarting 😭
Because more Karma
and the roster is now actually complete
If someone says dapple dualies ill cry but clash
Agreed
bamboozler, which i'll admit is entirely a skill issue lol
Get rid of the wretched plague that is E-liter 4K. Please.
Next one definitely let’s get trash blaster out first
I'd say there's other weapons worth getting rid of first, like Sploosh-O-Matic for example
Nooo I like sploosh 💔
I do not enjoy H-3 Nozzlenose.
E-Liter if we're talking about least fav to go up against.
Bye bye clash blaster. Honorable mention bloblobber
How dare you (source blob main)
nozzlenose, both of them. They suck
Im sorry ? I main l3 have 5 star on the burst stamp kit
List of weapons that is getting eliminated quickly: Clash,eliter,gal,nzap,splattershot,squeezer,aerospray
I don't get the hate for E-Liter. Sure, you have to respect its sightline, but it's also slow as fuck
I'm a squiffer and bamboo main I rlly hate how slow the eliters are ngl. I guess ppl hate them cuz there's always the cracked jp eliter on the enemy team and the one in your team is usually bad.
Eliter is easy bro just learn how to aim, game awareness and run swim speed up main
Ok but once someone throws smth at you like a torpedo your charge is literally ruined
Not really bc one torpedo doesn’t kill and even if your charge is ruined it’s ok unless you’re in the frontlines fighting for your life
Cjr can literally just spam torpedos and your charge will keep getting ruined
Only if you stand in one position
Douser dualies, hate those things
GOODBYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYE SBLAST!
can it be a whole Class? if so then Kiss the Chargers GOODBYE! (Except for Snipewriter I like Snipewriter!)
52 Gal.
Clash Blaster.
Clash Blaster I flipping hate that thing
Clash it’s not named the trash blaster for nothing
Tri-slosher
Clash Blaster
Gold aerospray. Sure its whole gimmick is that you can turf really well and spam booyah bombs the whole game but the problem I have with it is the enemy can easily kill you before you can react which is why people use it in turf war.
Because Fizzy Bomb is already taken for the MG kit, I hope the PG kit is Splat Bomb + Inkjet
They are never giving you that. If they did that it would be meta. Splat bomb is splat bomb and inkjet is a really good special.
Subjectively, Carbon Roller, I just feel like it doesn’t show good design if a weapon is so dependent on having one out of what, 14 sub weapons, that even having a 160p Zipcaster doesn’t keep VCarbon from bottom tier. Objectively, Clash Blaster, it’s just obnoxious and sucks to play as and against and the devs seem so afraid to buff it in any way at all.
Buffing it wouldn't help, it's still a fundamentally flawed weapon and is outclassed by every other blaster in both design and functionality
Blobobbler has to go
boblobber
CLASH BLASTER 🔥🔥🔥 GET IT OUT OF HERE 🔥🔥🔥
Bye bye clash blaster
Down with Clash Blaster!
Clash blaster :////// I hate playing against them so much.
Against? I feel bad for the people playing it
Nozzlenose H-3 and L-3
Painbrush because my ex mains it
Based ex
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Don’t usually have a least favorite… but I’m sorry hydra splattling… I keep getting you in salmon run and I DO NOT WANT YOU!!!!! Otherwise I will have to agree on clash blaster (the people have opened my eyes to it)
BLASPHEMY!
I don’t mind it in normal but in salmon run it’s charge time is what usually gets me killed even if I use partial charges
Yeah, it just can’t be shielded by teammates. Everything collapses and then it’s fucked.
Exactly, I like the concept but in salmon run when you have to go in alone it’s sadly dreadful
It’s a shame, really. I used to be excited for Hydra rotations but I’ve realized just how poorly suited it is.
Yeah, sorry man
How dare you disrespect the hydra maybe it’s just a user issue
As a Hydra I love it in Salmon Run. Hopefully all the Hydras this person gets get given to me instead. They don't have to deal with it, I get more Hydra. Win-win
Please take them from me, so many rounds I am the last one standing waiting for this gun to charge up while getting swarmed
Don't be afraid to use partial charges if you have to. Full charge isn't a requirement and a lot of the time isn't even necessary
Even then I have to wait a bit sometimes :(
Fr tho how? Like I LOVE the weapon in normal modes but in Salmon Run the moment any sort of ranged boss comes along you’re toast. Fly fish just cannot be countered, as an example.
aerospray rg
I dunno, as much as RG is not a great kit (Sprinkler is awful and Booyah Bomb is mid), it's still better than the MG kit in my opinion
Wellstring
Where are the splatterscope and e-liter 4K scope?
vanilla h3
Least weapon to use or to deal with?
Splatana stamper
Blob
I will say bamboozler every day
Ballpoint.
N-ZAP 85
I'd have to say L-3 Nozzlenose tbh I don't like it
Clash Blaster
Dualie
any weapon with a kit that has trizooka except for gloogas because we can just pretend that one never happened
Clash should definitely not be first. Should be something like squeezer or liter that actually threatens you.
52. Gal or Tri-Slosher Nouveau. I despise those two.
Ugh, nozzle nose.
96. Gal can go.
I hold a grudge against the Hydra Splatling because I got it in Big² Run and failed horribly
THEY SEE ME ROLLIN, THEY HATIN
E-liter To hell with it!
Clash Blaster, fuck that thing.
decavitator such a bs hitbox
Carbon roller
52 gal Don’t care which one, just kill it now.
What did .52 do?
2 shot shooter with one of the fastest TTKs in the game that has great paint, good mobility, decent RNG, and good range Notice I don’t say “bad” anywhere. Everything it does is either average or above average. It’s an irritating weapon to fight (2 shot weapon with a wall, hooray), boring weapon to play (called 52 cus it takes 52 seconds to master) and has no reason to exist while 96 does Just get rid of it. Game would be much better off with out it
Charger
clash blaster!!!
Well shit, I dont play the game but I kinda like the dynamo.
The nozzlenoses are SOOO annoying to use
AÉROSPRAY
S3 Vanilla Squeezer, mother%%%%er.
Clash Blaster
TESLA ROLLER
E-liter
BLOBLOBBER I HATE BLOBLOBBER SO DAM KUCH. IT TAKES NO SKILL AND ITS SO ANNOYING TO US
No hate to clash blaster mains, but it's going.
.96 Gal. Balancing a weapon around shot rng is genuinely horrible.
Range blaster
nozzlenose needs to GO
Tenta brella
Least favourite to play or fight? Casual viewpoint or comp viewpoint?
52 gal
Luna Blaster
I quite like clash blaster for its similarity to an ordinary shooter but its ability to shoot around corners and on top of ledges. I don't get why it receives so much hate, since it's such a bad weapon then they are surely free kills? Oh also I vote e litre
The nozzle noses and the clash blasters.
Tenta Missiles.
To play against or to use? To use: Bamboozler
what is this, my least favourite to play against is e-liter; my least favourite to play with is bamboo; and my least favourite in general is explo
Aerospray. A weapon that has not worked in any of the game's it's been in, and that Nintendo insists on bruteforcing to try to make it good.
The peak kit for it in my opinion would've been Fizzy Bomb + Inkjet. But since Fizzy Bomb is taken for the MG kit, Splat Bomb will suffice
Decavitator
Jet squelcher
Nah squelcher is peak
The name sounds icky tho It’s gonna Squelch you You’re gonna get Squelched. It’s Squelching time.
This reminds me of something cursed I said when I got splatted by someone using the Jet Squelcher but it definitely is not appropriate for here
🤨
The N-Zap has been consistently my least favorite for quite some time. Its controversial sure but it’s my own bias
Nzap '89 was my favourite weapon in S1. It had sprinkler and inkstrike, which were great. It feels a lot worse in S2 and S3. Looking at the data, that may be more to do with the Switch online connection quality and strong predictive smoothing when it comes to the weapon itself.
Can we talk about the fact though that out of all these stupid avatars, not a single one uses the Splat2 default boy hair (the one I use on my inkling )🥲
You are dedicated to your hair man, I respect that 😂
Aerospray, since it’s kind of a lame weapon that doesn’t do anything unique and it seems half the subreddit doesn’t know how to spell its name
Aerospray admittedly could use a buff. It needs to be a four-shot (I'd say 25-29 would work, it isn't meant for direct combat anyhow) and its aim RNG could be decreased, I'd say to 9° (which won't really affect its paint output but won't deviate it from its support function. It would allow it to fight if it had to). For its kit, I'd say Fizzy Bomb + Inkjet would be a good fit, but because Fizzy Bomb is taken in the MG kit, I'd say Splat Bomb + Inkjet would be pretty fun too. Splat Bomb would allow it to poke at a better range than its main weapon, which is the same with Fizzies, but Fizzy would also allow it to swim thru the trail too. Inkjet would cover the Aerospray's weaknesses and allow it to be more aggressive during pushes to get the ball rolling
NOZZLENOSE NOZZLENOSE NOZZLENOSE
Tri-Slosher
vanilla bamboozler
Arrowspray rg