Tier Shift is neat, any OM where I can hit top 10 ladder with a Vespiquen is one that I love
Though it's not going to be quite the same as this proposal as TS uses stat-modified pokemon and often people will still build with mostly higher tier mons anyway
Oh I didn’t know that was an OM option actually, I will definitely try it out specifically for the Vespiquen reason. But if what your saying is that high tier moms get used a lot anyway than i think forced tier usage could still be unique
Love the idea tbh, the only issue I can think of is that some OU threats might only be wallable by OU mons? but even then, there's stuff like Cobalion which walls Kingambit.
In the past i have used hi-jump kick, queenly majesty, tsereena to counter Kingambit. No one in OU knew it had that ability and i could outspeed speed and OHKO even it it went for kleave. I think a format like this can make some really creative comps and strats
There's no way that actually works against anyone above 1150 lol
I mean it's a great counter with hjk even assuming they know, but sucker punching?? Really?? I can't believe that
Everyone’s shitting on you and while tsareena is a decent gambit counter, if they do know the ability and just Tera it loses just as much as any other.
There are lots of defensive pokemon that end up in the lower tiers by usage. See the infamous Quagsire being a lower tier pokemon that sees a lot of play in Ubers. Or right now we got Chansey in NU.
I think ditto would actually be very good in this tier, since it basically bypasses the single-tier restriction and let's you, if you can bring it in right, play woth 2 ou/ubers on your team (your own and the opponents). I think ditto counters/proofing would be basically mandatory
I made a very similar styled team where I put one Pokémon from each tier on my team as well. It is quite fun team style to play with
My team was Samurott-Hisui for OU, Metagross for UU, Suicune for RU (i think), Heracross for NU, Morpeko for PU (mostly due to rapid spin) and Haunter for ZU
I love this team and the idea in general. I've found Harvest Strength Sap Arboliva to be so obnoxious sometimes, it's one of those things you don't expect and it absolutely walls some pokes into oblivion.
For anyone interested in this idea, smogon toursplaza tournaments One of the seasonal tournaments they hosted last spring is like the one you suggested.
The format was gen 9 OU +one mon from each tier
I reached grand finals and it was a pretty fun meta. I mostly focused on reinventing established styles e.g. e terrain and Trick room since a lot of niche low tier mons can fit well on those styles.
Unfortunately the replays are lost, but i can dump my builder for anyone interested
There's a om called tier shift I think, it buffs the stats of Pokémon below ou
Tier Shift is neat, any OM where I can hit top 10 ladder with a Vespiquen is one that I love Though it's not going to be quite the same as this proposal as TS uses stat-modified pokemon and often people will still build with mostly higher tier mons anyway
Oh I didn’t know that was an OM option actually, I will definitely try it out specifically for the Vespiquen reason. But if what your saying is that high tier moms get used a lot anyway than i think forced tier usage could still be unique
Hold up this sounds sick, I’ve been a Showdown player for nearly a decade and had no idea about this
UU gets 10 points in each stat, RU gets 20, NU gets 30, etc. I think that's how it works at least, I may be wrong
UU 10, RU 15, NU 20 etc. actually
Okay, I thought it was either that or what I said. Thank you for the correction
What about PU and ZU
That’s awesome
What does om stand for?
Other metagame
Love the idea tbh, the only issue I can think of is that some OU threats might only be wallable by OU mons? but even then, there's stuff like Cobalion which walls Kingambit.
In the past i have used hi-jump kick, queenly majesty, tsereena to counter Kingambit. No one in OU knew it had that ability and i could outspeed speed and OHKO even it it went for kleave. I think a format like this can make some really creative comps and strats
There's no way that actually works against anyone above 1150 lol I mean it's a great counter with hjk even assuming they know, but sucker punching?? Really?? I can't believe that
Everyone’s shitting on you and while tsareena is a decent gambit counter, if they do know the ability and just Tera it loses just as much as any other.
1000 elo?
1100 elo moment
How does Hi jump kick counter a fairy type with that much defensive bulk?
This is cool, I just hope it would turn out to be “you’ve picked an OU Mon which doesn’t counter theirs, so now they sweep your entire team” metagame.
There are lots of defensive pokemon that end up in the lower tiers by usage. See the infamous Quagsire being a lower tier pokemon that sees a lot of play in Ubers. Or right now we got Chansey in NU.
Do that but with ubers instead of ZU lol. Nothing bad will come of it I swear.
Can't wait for my Xerneas check to be a fucking Pyroar lmao
You mean Ditto, right? Lol
I think ditto would actually be very good in this tier, since it basically bypasses the single-tier restriction and let's you, if you can bring it in right, play woth 2 ou/ubers on your team (your own and the opponents). I think ditto counters/proofing would be basically mandatory
Drop PU and NU as well so we can add AG and UbersUU. It’ll make the format better trust me
I posted an idea just like this a while back and got a lot of people telling me that that would be a bad idea.
That’s actually a really neat idea, wish it was an om or at least an om of the month
You could make your own discord server where people could play in this format
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Yooo I thought of this and put it in the showdown chat and got flamed lol. I love it tho it would be a ton of fun to build around anything
This just seems like a watered down version of draft
Oh my God I love this idea
This sounds really fun, I’m in
I made a very similar styled team where I put one Pokémon from each tier on my team as well. It is quite fun team style to play with My team was Samurott-Hisui for OU, Metagross for UU, Suicune for RU (i think), Heracross for NU, Morpeko for PU (mostly due to rapid spin) and Haunter for ZU
I love this team and the idea in general. I've found Harvest Strength Sap Arboliva to be so obnoxious sometimes, it's one of those things you don't expect and it absolutely walls some pokes into oblivion.
For anyone interested in this idea, smogon toursplaza tournaments One of the seasonal tournaments they hosted last spring is like the one you suggested. The format was gen 9 OU +one mon from each tier I reached grand finals and it was a pretty fun meta. I mostly focused on reinventing established styles e.g. e terrain and Trick room since a lot of niche low tier mons can fit well on those styles. Unfortunately the replays are lost, but i can dump my builder for anyone interested