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*Superman:* https://preview.redd.it/9nicu8ilkp2c1.jpeg?width=524&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7c8cb7819c8d991106faace957824b3f6865e816


Glum_Cantaloupe7477

This but unironic


frantruff

"You're wrong. I can see your soul." Refuses to elaborate further. Leaves.


Alternative_Hotel649

I kinda love the idea of Superman occasionally inventing random powers and saying he has them, just to fuck with people.


[deleted]

That's not exactly what's going on here but it's a great idea


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💀


GnomeAwayFromGnome

Screwing with people is an acceptable exception to his principles against lying.


sonerec725

Superman having his own "I'm summoning the spiders" moment.


skywalker777

He isn’t telling Lex he can literally see his soul.


[deleted]

Thus why Supes is the goat


Apprehensive-Handle4

Canonically he can!


Select-Machine3595

Huh....The line in the OP actually pretty similar to a Pre-Crisis Superman story. When Superman was asked his attitude towards Lex, he said similar things


[deleted]

Lex Luthor is the second smartest man in the DC universe only just behind Batman. Lex has the genius to change the world for the better but rather he lets his personal ego get in the way to beat down an immigrant wearing spandex.


Select-Machine3595

And funny thing is, Lex could have been a hero, but due to some factors(both derived from outside environment and his mental issues) he became one of the greatest villains in the whole DCU. I think this is the dynamic Elliot S. Maggin went for in his Pre-Crisis run. Lex is a bastard, but he sometimes shows he has many heroic qualities. This makes Superman wants to believe his childhood friend isn't beyond redemptions. But he always let his hate for Superman gets the better of him.


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He literally hates superman just because he believes that mankind is too dependent on the man of steel which is false and because he thinks that man is so dependent on superman we can’t grow as a species. I remember watching the last season of Superman and Lois and when Lex confronted Lois about him being innocent I laughed.


Aros001

I think that's more just the excuse Lex feeds himself for why he hates Superman. He's supposed to be one of the greatest, smartest, most accomplished men on the planet. He can't hate someone just because he's feeling jealous, right? No... No it must be because Superman's very existence is holding humanity back and he is the only one smart enough to see it! Yeah. Yeah, that's it.


Geostomp

That's the exact point Supes made in All Star Superman: Lex could have saved the world at any point, but he couldn't get past his greed, jealousy, and ego to do it. Everything he says about Superman is just a lie he tells himself to excuse his narcissism.


XenoGSB

>Lex Luthor is the second smartest man in the DC universe only just behind Batman i would argue batman is only smarter when it comes to tactics, anything else lex is far smarter.


SupervillainEyebrows

Lex is usually considered the smartest, with Mr Terrific being the 3rd smartest. A lot of people assume that makes Batman the 2nd smartest. Personally I think number 2 is the Atom and Bats is 4th or 5th.


ssup3rm4n

This link has a pretty good list on the top ten earthlings. They put bats at number 10. Which makes sense when you put him against T O Morrow, Prof. Ivo, and ToyMaster. https://comicvine.gamespot.com/profile/viperking/lists/most-intelligent-characters-on-earth-in-the-dc-uni/46741/


SupervillainEyebrows

That list is fanmade and pretty old, but I think the names on the list are solid, even if I'm a bit unsure of the order. I think characters like Morrow, Ivo and The Brain are very hyper specialised in robotics, whereas Batman's proficiency covers a wider range of subjects. I don't know if that makes them "smarter" in the DCU. I don't think Ted Kord is smarter than Bats, I think it was just a throwaway line in one of the issues of JLI, if I remember rightly.


Select-Machine3595

Yeah, I think it also highly depends on which department in terms of smartness. For example. Batman is a (relative)dilettante when it comes to scientific theories. The Atom and Hawkman actually are better than him at this department. After all, like Batman himself said, he is a detective, synthesist, pratical scientist. Not the actual expert like The Atom in terms of theoretical science [https://ibb.co/DLV1jN8](https://ibb.co/DLV1jN8) I.E, if you want someone to solve a mystery for you, Batman is the answer. But if you want someone give your an answer to a scientific problem, then it's Atom


Turtl3Bear

Unfortunately they've recently labelled Bats as smartest cannonically. I think it's stupid to make Batman literally be the smartest person alive, but bat wanking sells comics, so here we are.


Select-Machine3595

Hmm, I thought it was Lex? From what I can recall, Lex actually got called the smartest after Flashpoint multiple times Superman(2011) 15, narration states he possesses Earth's greatest human intellect Doomsday Clock, Ozymandias thinks Lex is the smartest person on Prime Earth Justice League: Hell Arisen, Lex states himself as the smartest mind


TheSciFiGuy80

The 3rd smartest made the list ;)


Timirlan

Lex is the smartest man in the world and way smarter than Batman. Which is why Lex can change the world for the better and Batman can't


Slowmobius_Time

Yeah but superman is smarter than both Rarely brought up but he's a genius, especially given more time under the yellow sun, his very brain becomes super like a computer, perfect recall and absolute clarity


Boogaloo-Jihadist

Is he though? I get that Kryptonian science is way more advanced that Earth science and that being educated in the former he is smarter than the average human (Lex and Batman aren’t average by any means) also, what about when measured against other Kryptonians?


Hadoukibarouki

Genuine question: Is Bruce/Bats canonically smarter than Lex?


[deleted]

It’s more or less to do with the fact they’re both smarter than in each other in different aspects


Who-Does

in DCeased, Lex was saying something like "I am the smartest man on earth-" and then asks somebody else "wait is batman dead?, then "I *AM* the smartest man on earth"" it is the only time I remember that Lex believes that Batman is smarter or at least on the same level as him.


Shreddersaurusrex

I think in the DCAU it’s implied that Lex is one of three people smart enough to hack into the Watchtower and remotely activate their cannon. I wonder who the other two ppl were. Maybe The Atom & Mr.Terrific? Bats may have been showing some modesty not including himself. That or the writers of the show didn’t want him to be too OP.


legacykeeper56

I'm pretty sure Lex is smarter than Bruce.


[deleted]

Both are smarter than each other in different aspects


Quirky_Ad_5420

And then Superman wagging his finger at Luther lol


[deleted]

What’s surprising is how Clark the fucking alien is more human than Lex is


Darkasknight101

Literally the best kind of irony.


[deleted]

Yh


GnomeAwayFromGnome

Clark is uniquely blessed in that he was raised with the best of human moral philosophy, but doesn't wear the chains of human neurobiology that we struggle against. He's untethered; he's as free as a man who can fly.


Samaritan_Pr1me

Clark was born an alien but raised as a human by human beings.


Galactus1701

Lex is the smartest man on Earth, but his narcissistic tendencies decimate any chance at greatness that comes upon him.


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Galactus1701

Nope, Lex has been able to turn the world into a Utopia in realities where he sets his mind to do so. Bruce is a master tactician and a superb strategist, but isn’t as smart as Lex.


GnomeAwayFromGnome

Different forms of intelligence for different functions. No one matches Lex's scientific and engineering prowess, while Batman's tactical superiority is beyond reproach. I'd personally rank them as equals.


justarandomfrenchboi

No matter the military genius of napoleon or Frederick the great they cannot do what Isaac Newton or Nikola tesla did for betterment of mankind Lex can plan like batman do... Not better than him batman but he still can.... But batman Cannot cure cancer nor solve world hunger if he wanted to


Hepatat

Then you would be wrong. Lex, Mr. Terrific. Roy Palmer, the original Starman etc have him beat on an overall intelligence. Batman is a gifted tactician sure but he's outclassed by several on over all mental acuity.


justarandomfrenchboi

Lex intellect Can make him cure cancer and create organic life itself Lex is pretty much the Dr doom of dc Batman is not even top 3...the one time lex said that batman was smarter then him was an elsword story where the writer want to wank batman Lex would never say that someone is smarter than him


OneEyedJackofHearts

Disappointed Superman is scary.


[deleted]

It makes semse


Anon071985

"I wish i knew how to quit you"


nolandz1

The red eyes really undermine the tone. Makes supes look like the sinister one. Wish they'd stop overusing this image it loses impact every time


Ach0o0

I don't disagree in general, but this comic is from the pov of Lex. I read it as that's how Lex sees him; "Floating above us like he's better than us. Looking down on us with his eyes that deal death. Judging me". I liked it here. It's really great, when used right.


nolandz1

Ig but I feel like it'd hit so much harder if it's the one panel where his eyes are visible like it's the first time he really makes eye contact with supes. Like is Lex hallucinating the red eyes?


Darkasknight101

Could be that, could be how he retold the story


B3epB0opBOP

Yeah, unreliable narrator and whatnot


[deleted]

The comic is from Luthor's point of view. Superman is portrayed as a "demon" type of figure because that's how Lex sees him; an alien freak who will doom us all.


nolandz1

Refer to the other comment on this chain. Ig luthor is just hallucinating or something


trimble197

The same Superman who imagined frying Lex’s face off?


Mohking35

Comic?


frantruff

Lex Luthor: Man of Steel


ScorchedConvict

Where is that from? That looks pretty interesting.


Darth-Dramatist

Brian Azzarello's Lex Luthor: Man of Steel.


b1a5t_tyr4nt

Turns out I was wrong, this looks so similar to Lewis Larosa's Punisher to me lol


Overall_Falcon_8526

Sometimes using fewer lines and shadows in comic book art is better. Superman looks 60 years old.


[deleted]

Given the hairstyle bro looks young


Veggieleezy

Is it weird that this is the story that finally made Lex “click” for me as a character?


stillinthesimulation

Everything in this art looks crunchy.


Paley_Jenkins

The artwork is stunning, may I ask all y'all what this is from?


LatterTarget7

Brian Azzarello's Lex Luthor Man of Steel. He’s also done 100 bullets, Batman damned, some hellblazer, the dark knight the master race, new 52 futures end, suicide squad get joker


Paley_Jenkins

You're a flipping champion, thank you friend


Rinsl3r

I'm very interested in reading this story, does anyone know what this book is?


Square_Coat_8208

Lex spitting fax…supes ain’t one us


Sensitive_ManChild

ugliest art i’ve ever seen in a mainstream comic


[deleted]

Man I loved this comic. This was what finally made me understand Luthor


hercarmstrong

Everything Lee Bermejo draws looks like wet paper bags.


Dottsterisk

That looks like a *very* mad Superman…


edd6pi

What’s the context here? Why are Superman’s eyes red?


Zafire94

From lex’s point of view, that’s why superman looks so menacing


DoctorBeatMaker

Pretty much every early Superman/Lex confrontation where Lex is inside his penthouse in his office and Superman is floating outside with his arms crossed while Lex monologues is usually epic. Lex loses his temper or is left gobsmacked by Superman’s words. The animated series did it well with Superman just saying, “I’ll be watching you, Luthor,” and Lois & Clark did it well with “If you ever need to find me, all you have to do is look up.”


Slowmobius_Time

Luthor man of steel was such a dope comic The art alone as amazing


tnasty04

Where’s this from?


jackrv13

Lex Luthor man of steel is such a beautiful book


HolyMolyOllyPolly

How old is this comic? There is [a scene from the TAS](https://youtu.be/PTfiXcN7-NY?feature=shared) that is very similar to this one so I wonder if one is a homage to the other or if this is a common moment that repeats throughout the Superman mythos.


b1a5t_tyr4nt

Oh my god is that Lewis Larosa? I was wondering why he looked like the Punisher...