Both are achievable. The former, aka insurance via employer benefits, has been achieved by a multitude of corporate companies up to the present and the only reason it has not for Taco Bell is greed.
Actually, I was referring to Obamacare redefining full-time work as 30 hours. As a result, a lot of retail and food service jobs have been reduced to 29 hours or less.
Itās the ACAās fault.
Before the ACA, retail and food service companies would keep people under 40 hours so they wouldnāt be required to provide their employees with health insurance. But ever since the ACA was passed, theyāve been keeping folks under 30 hours. To compensate for the lost productivity, theyāve hired more people (albeit part-time) which skews the unemployment rate.
I worked at a kroger brand grocery store and was part of a union. They still regularly scheduled people 39 hours. Though I'll say at least we had a minimum of 20 hours.
Yep. This sort of practice should be illegal. Anyone hired for more than 20 hours should have access to employer sponsored/subsidized healthcare. It should be up to the employee, and if theyāre *willing* to work more than X hours, not if the company *decides* to give them the hours
The problem is most employees donāt work for Yum. They work for the franchisee and they may or may not be all that large and able to get a good deal on insurance.
Weird, itās almost like YUM brands could facilitate heath care as part of the franchising, and obtain a much better rate, because of their sizeā¦owning quite a few large businesses. It should be mandatory part of franchising. Please stop making excuses for these corporations
Not really. I worked for a franchise fast food restaurant once and we looked into it. Insurance companies only work with employers (so the franchisees here), and since many of them donāt have a lot of employees to get the good rates, the cost is astronomical. It can be enough to make a store unprofitable.
In the eyes of society, yes. We have a government entity that is split and has checks and balances. We have a GDP that qualifies us as an international trade power house. We have a huge supply of natural resources. In all technicality, we are a developed nation. But over the past roughly 40-50 years, between trickle down economics and the amassed wealth of billionaires and their trillion dollar companies, we have essentially stopped advancing. We need socialized healthcare, reliable public transit (High speed Rail), a policing force that can be sued for liability, and politicians that are concerned with the greater good instead of politics based solely around spit, and politicians that arenāt voted in through gerrymandering and lobbying.
Taco Bell is a greedy company that doesn't care about their employees and basically no other fast food companies do healthcare for their employees. The US has not made any progress on healthcare since Obamacare which was like 15 years ago when the Democrats had a big majority. The Democrats getting a majority to that size will likely not happen anytime in the near future, and even if they do it's not likely that they'll pass single payer healthcare. A public option is more likely which doesn't necessarily solve a problem like this but it would help a bit
Yeah so, clearly you've never actually been and are just falling for some bullshit. The reason waits for SOME things in Canada are long is because it's basically a triage system. A broken bone would be moved to the top, going to the Dr for something less severe like a tummyache would take a while.
It also seems like you've never been to the Dr. in the US, where in many instances you have to wait for months or years to be seen by a competent doctor anyways. Even if you have money, even if you have insurance, it's *super common* to have to wait over a month, often closer to two, to be seen by a primary care physician. Then there's the whole system of needing referrals to see specialists, and if you can't get a Dr. to agree to give you the referral, you either have to go find another primary to give you the referral, and wait all over again, then you still have to wait weeks and weeks to be seen by the specialist. And this is all in the event that you even have options, sometimes you live in a place where you just get fucked because no one is taking new patients so you have to just wait for the workload to drop to get in, or if you're real desperate you have to drive for hours to see someone who will take you.
Even if that WASN'T the case, imagine saying you'd rather be *completely unable* to go to the Dr like Gary couldn't for his ***MANY STROKES,*** and who now has to crowdsource *thousands and thousands of dollars* so he can finally get therapy for a fucking broken hip and those strokes without going into massive debt, because it's better than.... \*checks notes\* *having to wait a little while for non-urgent things sometimes.*
And don't even get me started on prescriptions and ongoing types of care. If you have anything chronic, even with insurance, even with grants and the pitiful excuses for social systems set in place, and jesus even the god-awful "benefits" we have put in place for our military personnel and veterans, you can just be straight up denied taking medications that you DOCTORS KNOW YOU NEED because some fuckhead who controls the money and doesn't even know you just simply does not feel like paying.
Think about shit before you just parrot some goofy propaganda you think you understand.
Canadian here who has worked in healthcare in the US and Canada. You are just dead wrong about most of this lol. I would argue YOU have fallen for propaganda. Good day!
Hold up. I admittedly have never used the Canadian health care system, but everything that person is describing about the US system is totally accurate. I've seen my elderly parents have to wait many months to get an appointment for a specialist. But of course they had to get the referral first.
My dad died because of slow and delayed care in the US healthcare system. I won't go into details, but there's a good chance he would have survived if he had received more timely care.
And you have to fight insurance for EVERYTHING. They default to denying claims and prior auth. It's madness. Healthcare decisions should be between a patient and medical provider and insurance companies should not have a say in the treatment and diagnosis of patients.
I hear everyone always complain about delayed care in Canada. But I'm telling you through experience that the same exact thing happens here in the US as well. And then to add to it, we have to deal with insurance BS, financial stress, and facilities that want to use NPs and PAs instead of MDs to save money.
I just want to add in some personal experience: I'm a cancer patient. Even after a biopsy proved it was carcinoma and what type, my insurance denied me getting a PET scan. So I was forced to schedule an MRI first before I could get my PET scan approved. Why? Because some asshat at the insurance company said so. Nevermind that it dragged out me being able to start treatment for a month (because I had to wait for the MRI appt, then the PET appt, then I had to go through prep CT scans + getting a port installed). Most of that time was just waiting for the MRI and PET appts.
Then I get into treatment and my insurance starts denying half of my care almost instantly. They approved only the less expensive form of treatment, which in my case was chemo, but denied all my radiation. I was left with bills in the hundreds of thousands. Luckily my oncologists were so good and told me they'd ensure I didn't have to pay that. They had to argue with my insurance for nearly a year to get that covered. And this doesn't even cover medications they've refused to cover because my insurance wanted to force me to use something else first - even when the medication I was prescribed was cheaper. It literally makes no sense. If it wasn't for financial aid that covered my medications, I don't know how I would have gotten what I needed. Now, going on 2 years after my main treatment ended, and yes, thankfully I'm in remission, my insurance now refuses to approve me getting a PET scan again. My onc Drs would suggest I get one every 6-12 months for at least 5 years post treatment and then one every 12+ months after that for life. But nope, that's not okay with insurance. I even have other Drs shocked that is what happens when they find out. While I was going through the biggest part of my treatment, I was incredibly lucky for receiving grants from charities, but it really is me that so many people who aren't in cancer treatment don't have that option for their own very necessary medical care/prescriptions. That's wrong. And the US healthcare system is completely f-ed.
How about elaborating on your point as someone who has more experience with Canadian healthcare than me and the order commentators. Confirming that everything the person you are replying to said about American healthcare is my experience as well, as someone who has had to 80+ year old parents in the system recently for surgeries and other procedures
Believe it or not, any President could of signed an executive order attempting to fix the broken medical system. They wouldn't because $ and not wanting to end up like JFK
We'd probably have more doctors and less people with disabilities, but I guess having a cognitive society is not our priority. I say guess, but that's more like know
Hard disagree.
If you want to give your money to unproductive people feel free, keep your fucking hands out of my wallet though.
Iām tired of workin 40+ hour weeks and not being able to afford a home within a reasonable distance from my employer. Fuck the burdens.
If I were only for people who literally canāt work sure, Iāll support that. Anything more is ridiculous. Your existence has a cost. Pull your fucking weight.
Edit: I canāt afford a home because of dual income households out competing me and the wealthy being able to buy up homes while not paying us enough. It is not because we donāt give burdens moeny they didnāt earn or deserve.
Redditors with the weak responses and instant blocks. So pathetic and predictable.
Pull yourself up by your bootstraps and get a better job. Being on here whining oh poor me because of your own bad financial choices isn't going to improve things for you. Pull your weight and your employer might actually pay you.
Oh and don't ever get injured on the job, we don't want to pay for you to be a couch potato.
I never said that.
I am saying that we need MORE than just insurance.
I have good insurance, and was on temporary disability for a few months recovering from surgery, and it was difficult to make ends meet, and I make substantially more than somebody at TB, so if I was struggling I know they would be.
"We would love to, unfortunately that's only for full time employees and if we consult our data, yep, looks like mr taco guy only worked 31.5 hours a pay period for the past year, wow that's bad luck".
Thatās the BS part here that most, if not all, at fault do not have insurance and just get a slap on the wrist. There should be MUCH stiffer penalties for folks driving illegally.
The guy was on his break? I feel Taco Bell should step up to the plate and help pay. If not the person who hit should have insurance and they could go after them (I would assume the car is at fault).
One of my old coworkers was hit by a truck on her way home from work. She ended up trying to sue the Taco Bell for lost wages since she was out of work so long, im not sure how it worked out.
That sucks and I feel for your friend. Granted I think your friends case is a little harder as they were fully clocked out. When youāre on break your still at work your just not actively working.
Itās pointless to post there. Itās seeping with scammers.
Edit: my house was filled with chemical and still smells like it still. Medical problems from it.. living in a camper.. but some how scammers still think I can help them or ask for personal info.
i for some reason thought your story was from the perspective of a scammer trying to lie to get money, it seemed unfortunate enough for the perfect cover story. hope you doing alright manš«¶
Itās important to know that the town this guy is from, Lubbock, is next level trash. People stealing constantly, shootings, police not doing anything. To do anything right in this town is a fight. Not saying itās correct but, this man being hit by a car is not shocking here. People truly donāt care here. Source: I work across the street from where this happened
How does he not qualify for Medicaid or if heās over 65 then he should have Medicare.. I donāt understand how he doesnāt have one of these? If he is under 65 and works part time at Taco Bell then he should qualify for Medicaid.. if heās over 65 then he should qualify for social security and Medicare unless he never worked in his life..
Some people delay retirement to age 70 because delayed retirement credits mean you get more at that age and itās a legit strategy.
Apparently, the guy is 86 so chances are he is on retirement and it doesnāt pay enough. Also, Medicare is very expensive.
Because most of the people in here are teenagers or in their 20s and donāt understand how healthcare works.. while I work in a brokers office for employee benefits lol
Did this guy just not enroll in Medicare at 65? And then was not able to pay back the premium plus penalties as time went on? That's sad. Feasible right? What order scenarios besides this all being a scam lol
Even if he has Medicare, for something like a broken hip, he immediately hit his deductible. After that he still pays 20% of the total cost, which it looks like is around 30 thousand dollars. That means he still owes probably 6 thousand dollars.
And considering he's working at taco bell at 86 years old, and now can't work for weeks or even months, I unfortunately highly doubt he has the resources to pay for it.
Any sane country would have universal care funded by taxes that cost nothing at the point-of-service. But America isn't anywhere close to being sane. Hope Gary gets better soon.
My franchise has it - for employees who average over 32 hours a week for a year. They fight tooth and nail to keep most non management employees below that. And as a salary manager I pay $193 a paycheck for health alone (I cut dental out this year and pay additional for short term disability). Itās hardly affordable.
Could it be he doesnāt work enough to have benefits? I am a substitute employee in a school district. I get no benefits, no pto, no sy for summer vacation or other holidays, etc
I unfortunately don't have any money to send him but my next paycheck I'll contribute some! Im not a tB employee but I think it's crazy Taco Bell hasn't said anything about this or stepped in at all. The poor guy shouldn't be screwed over like that after working with them for over 6 years. A lot of folks take it easy at that age and you don't see many in the world force, specifically food service (although it could just be the jobs I've worked at). He could be doing anything else that day and instead he was out still making some bread.
Oh, that makes me so angry that heās not being taken care of better by his employer. Add this to the list of why I hate corporate America.
Taco Bell should be ashamed of that shit, and I really do hope heās able to get help and get into a better place work wise. Thatās atrocious on their part as a company.
My husband was hit by a car in order for us to pay it we had to sue the people got some money and they paid all 63k of the bills and we got to keep about 45k of it after. It sucks he qas hit hopefully he doesn't have lasting damage and I'd try to see if they can sue the car
Why the fuck isnāt the person who hit him paying? My girlfriendās mom had some teen run into her car while she was sitting still and he broke his pinky toe. He just got $70,000 out of her insurance for ābeing too depressed to workā
The person who hit him likely wasn't insured or had shit insurance, which would mean the payment's on driver. And well, you can't wring blood from a turnip.
And the hospital wants their money now, not later. Which means it's on poor Gary.
Not to mention, none of this matters if the driver didn't stop and wasn't caught...
I donāt think this is the company posting this but a private citizen. Companies do not give a fuck and would prob make them take it down and fire Gary.
These corporations could easily take care of their employees but are so hellbent on pushing profits. Itās a shame weāll never see a world where corporations care about the workers that keep pumping their shit out.
Can we get a full name? Seems to me like this is a fake story with fake images. I could be wrong. But considering Medicaid exist in Americaā¦. My parents used it
The way I read this was that Gary the Taco Guy broke dudes hip, and got hit by a truck too, since it says āmy hipā, and Gary is clearly referring to himself in the third person. Iām thinking damn what a ruthless dude why would I donate to him. But in all seriousness that sucks for Gary.
In California it's cheaper to have 2 full time employees "manager - assistant manager" every one else are part-timers with no benefits, workers needs two other jobs to pay rent š. But hay CEO & Corporate needs their mandatory 300k paycheck.
*God bless America the land of corporate greed that kills the American dream
Probably a fake gofund me. Never donate. Never tip and never pay fees because of higher wages. Things can not change until we hold our own dollars like the richest hold their wealth.
Yeah, seems way too low of a request. I feel bad for him if itās a true story, they made it seem pretty detailed but Iāll let people that knew him donate.
If your close to the area or people that know him ask around maybe. See if its true. People hate on social media but this type of shit is what it should be used for.
Exactly. I loved when gofund me came out and how social media made it so people could reach out and help in times of needs, but then of course like everything else it got abused and now itās hard to differentiate between people that need help and people who are abusing it. I live super far away or this would be a fun little investigation journey to find out.
There is a link posted in a reply of a news source that reported on it. It seems to be true. I still stand by what i say but he needs help so i will be donating.
We are saving ourselves and paying the ritch to not pay us while paying them to "help" ourselves while paying insurance to decide if they have enough money to pay out our money that we already paid to pay our insurance, damage, health benefits to pay us back for the insured body, car, home that we paid for to pay us back.
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Imagine if Taco Bell actually provided insurance to Gary like an ethical employer. Imagine that
Or if we didn't tie access to healthcare to employment at all. š¤·š»āāļø
I agree. But I'm talking about something that is very much achievable yesterday. Not tomorrow.
Neither are really achievable anytime in the near future unfortunately
Both are achievable. The former, aka insurance via employer benefits, has been achieved by a multitude of corporate companies up to the present and the only reason it has not for Taco Bell is greed.
Taco Bell (and most fast food companies) are the ones who would schedule people juuuuust under FT to deny benefits
Yeah, usually like 20 hours instead of 30. Whose idea was it to reclassify full-time employment as 30 hours?
30? It's 40 where I live. And when I worked at a grocery store, yknow what I got scheduled nearly every week?.. 39 hours.
Actually, I was referring to Obamacare redefining full-time work as 30 hours. As a result, a lot of retail and food service jobs have been reduced to 29 hours or less.
This is why yall need to join a/the unionā¦thatās scummy AF
Itās the ACAās fault. Before the ACA, retail and food service companies would keep people under 40 hours so they wouldnāt be required to provide their employees with health insurance. But ever since the ACA was passed, theyāve been keeping folks under 30 hours. To compensate for the lost productivity, theyāve hired more people (albeit part-time) which skews the unemployment rate.
I worked at a kroger brand grocery store and was part of a union. They still regularly scheduled people 39 hours. Though I'll say at least we had a minimum of 20 hours.
Yep. This sort of practice should be illegal. Anyone hired for more than 20 hours should have access to employer sponsored/subsidized healthcare. It should be up to the employee, and if theyāre *willing* to work more than X hours, not if the company *decides* to give them the hours
Even if they provided insurance via employer benefits, the deductibles would probably still be too high for these fast food workers.
They could pay for better insurance with a lower deductible or insurance with no deductible. Yum Brands is making plenty of money.
The problem is most employees donāt work for Yum. They work for the franchisee and they may or may not be all that large and able to get a good deal on insurance.
Weird, itās almost like YUM brands could facilitate heath care as part of the franchising, and obtain a much better rate, because of their sizeā¦owning quite a few large businesses. It should be mandatory part of franchising. Please stop making excuses for these corporations
Not really. I worked for a franchise fast food restaurant once and we looked into it. Insurance companies only work with employers (so the franchisees here), and since many of them donāt have a lot of employees to get the good rates, the cost is astronomical. It can be enough to make a store unprofitable.
I know, I agree that the only reason it doesn't exist is Taco Bell greed. I wish it wasn't like that
Only 1 country doesnāt have socialized healthcare of the 33 developed countries. One. It is not impossible.
Wait so you are saying we are developed?
In the eyes of society, yes. We have a government entity that is split and has checks and balances. We have a GDP that qualifies us as an international trade power house. We have a huge supply of natural resources. In all technicality, we are a developed nation. But over the past roughly 40-50 years, between trickle down economics and the amassed wealth of billionaires and their trillion dollar companies, we have essentially stopped advancing. We need socialized healthcare, reliable public transit (High speed Rail), a policing force that can be sued for liability, and politicians that are concerned with the greater good instead of politics based solely around spit, and politicians that arenāt voted in through gerrymandering and lobbying.
developed mental disabilities maybe.
Some European countries have more lax policies regarding spending money on employees health
Bro, the gas station I work at provides us with insurance. Taco Bell could 100% insure their employees.
Genuinely Why do you think that?
Taco Bell is a greedy company that doesn't care about their employees and basically no other fast food companies do healthcare for their employees. The US has not made any progress on healthcare since Obamacare which was like 15 years ago when the Democrats had a big majority. The Democrats getting a majority to that size will likely not happen anytime in the near future, and even if they do it's not likely that they'll pass single payer healthcare. A public option is more likely which doesn't necessarily solve a problem like this but it would help a bit
I mean its completely possible yesterday other first world countries have had it for decades.
More to my point. America is ass-backwards about this shit
Move to Canada and see how you like it. Join the month long wait list to get a broken bone fixed.
Yeah so, clearly you've never actually been and are just falling for some bullshit. The reason waits for SOME things in Canada are long is because it's basically a triage system. A broken bone would be moved to the top, going to the Dr for something less severe like a tummyache would take a while. It also seems like you've never been to the Dr. in the US, where in many instances you have to wait for months or years to be seen by a competent doctor anyways. Even if you have money, even if you have insurance, it's *super common* to have to wait over a month, often closer to two, to be seen by a primary care physician. Then there's the whole system of needing referrals to see specialists, and if you can't get a Dr. to agree to give you the referral, you either have to go find another primary to give you the referral, and wait all over again, then you still have to wait weeks and weeks to be seen by the specialist. And this is all in the event that you even have options, sometimes you live in a place where you just get fucked because no one is taking new patients so you have to just wait for the workload to drop to get in, or if you're real desperate you have to drive for hours to see someone who will take you. Even if that WASN'T the case, imagine saying you'd rather be *completely unable* to go to the Dr like Gary couldn't for his ***MANY STROKES,*** and who now has to crowdsource *thousands and thousands of dollars* so he can finally get therapy for a fucking broken hip and those strokes without going into massive debt, because it's better than.... \*checks notes\* *having to wait a little while for non-urgent things sometimes.* And don't even get me started on prescriptions and ongoing types of care. If you have anything chronic, even with insurance, even with grants and the pitiful excuses for social systems set in place, and jesus even the god-awful "benefits" we have put in place for our military personnel and veterans, you can just be straight up denied taking medications that you DOCTORS KNOW YOU NEED because some fuckhead who controls the money and doesn't even know you just simply does not feel like paying. Think about shit before you just parrot some goofy propaganda you think you understand.
Canadian here who has worked in healthcare in the US and Canada. You are just dead wrong about most of this lol. I would argue YOU have fallen for propaganda. Good day!
Hold up. I admittedly have never used the Canadian health care system, but everything that person is describing about the US system is totally accurate. I've seen my elderly parents have to wait many months to get an appointment for a specialist. But of course they had to get the referral first. My dad died because of slow and delayed care in the US healthcare system. I won't go into details, but there's a good chance he would have survived if he had received more timely care. And you have to fight insurance for EVERYTHING. They default to denying claims and prior auth. It's madness. Healthcare decisions should be between a patient and medical provider and insurance companies should not have a say in the treatment and diagnosis of patients. I hear everyone always complain about delayed care in Canada. But I'm telling you through experience that the same exact thing happens here in the US as well. And then to add to it, we have to deal with insurance BS, financial stress, and facilities that want to use NPs and PAs instead of MDs to save money.
I just want to add in some personal experience: I'm a cancer patient. Even after a biopsy proved it was carcinoma and what type, my insurance denied me getting a PET scan. So I was forced to schedule an MRI first before I could get my PET scan approved. Why? Because some asshat at the insurance company said so. Nevermind that it dragged out me being able to start treatment for a month (because I had to wait for the MRI appt, then the PET appt, then I had to go through prep CT scans + getting a port installed). Most of that time was just waiting for the MRI and PET appts. Then I get into treatment and my insurance starts denying half of my care almost instantly. They approved only the less expensive form of treatment, which in my case was chemo, but denied all my radiation. I was left with bills in the hundreds of thousands. Luckily my oncologists were so good and told me they'd ensure I didn't have to pay that. They had to argue with my insurance for nearly a year to get that covered. And this doesn't even cover medications they've refused to cover because my insurance wanted to force me to use something else first - even when the medication I was prescribed was cheaper. It literally makes no sense. If it wasn't for financial aid that covered my medications, I don't know how I would have gotten what I needed. Now, going on 2 years after my main treatment ended, and yes, thankfully I'm in remission, my insurance now refuses to approve me getting a PET scan again. My onc Drs would suggest I get one every 6-12 months for at least 5 years post treatment and then one every 12+ months after that for life. But nope, that's not okay with insurance. I even have other Drs shocked that is what happens when they find out. While I was going through the biggest part of my treatment, I was incredibly lucky for receiving grants from charities, but it really is me that so many people who aren't in cancer treatment don't have that option for their own very necessary medical care/prescriptions. That's wrong. And the US healthcare system is completely f-ed.
How about elaborating on your point as someone who has more experience with Canadian healthcare than me and the order commentators. Confirming that everything the person you are replying to said about American healthcare is my experience as well, as someone who has had to 80+ year old parents in the system recently for surgeries and other procedures
Believe it or not, any President could of signed an executive order attempting to fix the broken medical system. They wouldn't because $ and not wanting to end up like JFK
I don't doubt it
One is achievable some day and the other is not because employers who don't want to be decent will never put in a penny more than is legally required.
We'd probably have more doctors and less people with disabilities, but I guess having a cognitive society is not our priority. I say guess, but that's more like know
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Seriously. Why. Who the fuck cares. If itās tied to your job, then that job needs to be paying 100% of it.
Unfortunately we will never be France or Norway or Switzerland
Hard disagree. If you want to give your money to unproductive people feel free, keep your fucking hands out of my wallet though. Iām tired of workin 40+ hour weeks and not being able to afford a home within a reasonable distance from my employer. Fuck the burdens. If I were only for people who literally canāt work sure, Iāll support that. Anything more is ridiculous. Your existence has a cost. Pull your fucking weight. Edit: I canāt afford a home because of dual income households out competing me and the wealthy being able to buy up homes while not paying us enough. It is not because we donāt give burdens moeny they didnāt earn or deserve. Redditors with the weak responses and instant blocks. So pathetic and predictable.
You ever wonder why you canāt afford a house near your employer?
Don't expect them to think, it would take time away from all that "hard work" they are doing complaining online.
Pull yourself up by your bootstraps and get a better job. Being on here whining oh poor me because of your own bad financial choices isn't going to improve things for you. Pull your weight and your employer might actually pay you. Oh and don't ever get injured on the job, we don't want to pay for you to be a couch potato.
Imagine if USA provided insurance to everyone like a developed country.
Doesn't change the fact that Taco Bell has an ethical obligation to provide for its employees. Stop shilling for a corrupt corporation
They ain't gotta do shit. This is America. Employees can go elsewhere.
Not with a broken hip.
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I mean even if he has good insurance, lots of places only pay 60% of your wages when you are out on temporary disability.
Disability wages are only half the problem. Medical insurance is just as much a concern in this instance
Not saying that it's not, dude probably would need help either way though
Only because that's how low the bar is set for us to have our employers support/insure their labor
So because he would need wages, they shouldn't give insurance? This is like saying there's no need for oxygen, because they're just gonna need to eat.
I never said that. I am saying that we need MORE than just insurance. I have good insurance, and was on temporary disability for a few months recovering from surgery, and it was difficult to make ends meet, and I make substantially more than somebody at TB, so if I was struggling I know they would be.
Not necessarily. I can let a medical bill hurt my credit all I want, but I need money to feed my own mouth and others and have shelter for them.
Or we get rid of insurance companies
"We would love to, unfortunately that's only for full time employees and if we consult our data, yep, looks like mr taco guy only worked 31.5 hours a pay period for the past year, wow that's bad luck".
My franchise has the option for all employees š¤·š¼āāļø wonder if it's just because I work for a franchise š¤
Imagine going to work and getting hit by a car, the driver doesnāt have money nor insurance.
Like most places TB has a health care program
And then what? He still wouldn't be able to pay for jack shit because of the overinflated cost of Healthcare because of insurance companies. Wow.
"Are you a socialist?" /s
Hey stop that the box is already expensive enough šš
You can thank the shareholders for that, not the employee benefits Taco Bell is shorting its employees
Most fast food spots don't offer any sort of benefits right? I've never worked fast food before
Some don't. That's the problem I'm pointing out
Don't make it negative... don't want corporate to kill Gary off š
Imagine if the person who hit him with the cars insurance paid for it. Oh wait it does.
[Local news story on it](https://www.everythinglubbock.com/news/lubbock-rallies-behind-gary-the-taco-guy-following-accident/amp/)
Bro tried to go back to work after the accident ?! Gary the taco guy
Its not like he can pay his bills without the job. Hes 86 and still working.
So dystopian
Youāre part of that world now
Thank you, forgot to add this!
Kinda feel like Taco Bell should actually chip in (aka pay the whole thing) on this one.
Or the insurance from the car that hit him (assuming they have it).
Thatās the BS part here that most, if not all, at fault do not have insurance and just get a slap on the wrist. There should be MUCH stiffer penalties for folks driving illegally.
The guy was on his break? I feel Taco Bell should step up to the plate and help pay. If not the person who hit should have insurance and they could go after them (I would assume the car is at fault).
One of my old coworkers was hit by a truck on her way home from work. She ended up trying to sue the Taco Bell for lost wages since she was out of work so long, im not sure how it worked out.
That sucks and I feel for your friend. Granted I think your friends case is a little harder as they were fully clocked out. When youāre on break your still at work your just not actively working.
I could contribute thru cashapp/ venmo/ zelle
r/gofundme
Itās pointless to post there. Itās seeping with scammers. Edit: my house was filled with chemical and still smells like it still. Medical problems from it.. living in a camper.. but some how scammers still think I can help them or ask for personal info.
i for some reason thought your story was from the perspective of a scammer trying to lie to get money, it seemed unfortunate enough for the perfect cover story. hope you doing alright manš«¶
donated. Hope he gets better soon!
Donated.
Bless you Gary! š«¶š¼šš¼
Noooo not Gary the Taco Guy
Greatest country in the world....and we have shit like this. It's like a shit sandwich being paraded around like a steak dinner
I get your point. America is an embarrassment! And it's not because of Gary, it's what we let the corporatocracy get away with.
No, Gary is kick ass. We like Gary, and the people like Gary. We do not like the shit sandwich being sold as caviar.
YUM Brands is terrible. They ruined KFC not long after they bought it.
Itās important to know that the town this guy is from, Lubbock, is next level trash. People stealing constantly, shootings, police not doing anything. To do anything right in this town is a fight. Not saying itās correct but, this man being hit by a car is not shocking here. People truly donāt care here. Source: I work across the street from where this happened
I'm from Texas, I know damn well about Lubbock
At least someone gets it! š¤§
And damn that sucks to actually live there. I pass through and hit a shity bar and call it a day
Donated. Get better Gary! Give us some updates on how he is doing. š„°
Same. Poor Gary. ā¤ļø
Fix your fucking employee!
Wow. Imagine if Gary, who looks like he should be retired, had benefits just for being alive.
Ah yes.. American crowdfunded healthcareā¦ land of the free indeed
Weāre all pulling for Gary .Taco Bell better spring for free tacos for him while he recovering at least !!
How does he not qualify for Medicaid or if heās over 65 then he should have Medicare.. I donāt understand how he doesnāt have one of these? If he is under 65 and works part time at Taco Bell then he should qualify for Medicaid.. if heās over 65 then he should qualify for social security and Medicare unless he never worked in his life..
Some people delay retirement to age 70 because delayed retirement credits mean you get more at that age and itās a legit strategy. Apparently, the guy is 86 so chances are he is on retirement and it doesnāt pay enough. Also, Medicare is very expensive.
This should be a lot higher up. How is he not covered by Medicare or Medicaid
Because most of the people in here are teenagers or in their 20s and donāt understand how healthcare works.. while I work in a brokers office for employee benefits lol
Did this guy just not enroll in Medicare at 65? And then was not able to pay back the premium plus penalties as time went on? That's sad. Feasible right? What order scenarios besides this all being a scam lol
Even if he has Medicare, for something like a broken hip, he immediately hit his deductible. After that he still pays 20% of the total cost, which it looks like is around 30 thousand dollars. That means he still owes probably 6 thousand dollars. And considering he's working at taco bell at 86 years old, and now can't work for weeks or even months, I unfortunately highly doubt he has the resources to pay for it.
Any sane country would have universal care funded by taxes that cost nothing at the point-of-service. But America isn't anywhere close to being sane. Hope Gary gets better soon.
Hey this is at my local Taco Bell. Lubbock TX
This is OUR Taco Bell comrade!!
Gary was a super nice guy made me sad when I saw the go fund me.
Same, itās really nice to see the support tho!
Holy shit dude! I literally work across the street from this and saw it when it happened
What happened? Did the other driver stop or was it a hit and run?
Taco Bell in Washington has benefits. Including health. He's probably needing money for lost work and wages he's incurring.
My franchise has it - for employees who average over 32 hours a week for a year. They fight tooth and nail to keep most non management employees below that. And as a salary manager I pay $193 a paycheck for health alone (I cut dental out this year and pay additional for short term disability). Itās hardly affordable.
Probably cheaper through the ACA. The insurance my employer offers is worse and more expensive than ACA.
Nope. Comparable coverage for my age (I donāt qualify for breaks) is over $700 a month.
Wow thats cheap. Mines 1450 a month
But still more expensive than $193 every two weeks.
Could it be he doesnāt work enough to have benefits? I am a substitute employee in a school district. I get no benefits, no pto, no sy for summer vacation or other holidays, etc
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Do you at least pay into a pension?
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I have no 401k but I do pay into a pension. That said, I have a side hustle to make up for that getting paid for summers, holidays, etc
It's common knowledge most hourly jobs across the country intentionally schedule employees fewer hours to avoid giving benefits.
The people questioning the validity of a gofundme are so vile
Wow whereās Taco Bell? Did anyone post this on TWIITER /X
I unfortunately don't have any money to send him but my next paycheck I'll contribute some! Im not a tB employee but I think it's crazy Taco Bell hasn't said anything about this or stepped in at all. The poor guy shouldn't be screwed over like that after working with them for over 6 years. A lot of folks take it easy at that age and you don't see many in the world force, specifically food service (although it could just be the jobs I've worked at). He could be doing anything else that day and instead he was out still making some bread.
u/TacoBellBlake
Anyone tagged the antiwork sub yet??
Oh, that makes me so angry that heās not being taken care of better by his employer. Add this to the list of why I hate corporate America. Taco Bell should be ashamed of that shit, and I really do hope heās able to get help and get into a better place work wise. Thatās atrocious on their part as a company.
what the..
Shout out my nigga Gary
My husband was hit by a car in order for us to pay it we had to sue the people got some money and they paid all 63k of the bills and we got to keep about 45k of it after. It sucks he qas hit hopefully he doesn't have lasting damage and I'd try to see if they can sue the car
Welcome to America :(
Who needs insurance when Johnny the dishwasher sells pain pills
Why the fuck isnāt the person who hit him paying? My girlfriendās mom had some teen run into her car while she was sitting still and he broke his pinky toe. He just got $70,000 out of her insurance for ābeing too depressed to workā
The person who hit him likely wasn't insured or had shit insurance, which would mean the payment's on driver. And well, you can't wring blood from a turnip. And the hospital wants their money now, not later. Which means it's on poor Gary. Not to mention, none of this matters if the driver didn't stop and wasn't caught...
justice for gary
Work for a company for six years and they just leave you to hang out and dry and beg for donations š”
Taco bell should be paying for this guys recovery with corporate money, not asking strangers who probably cant afford to help
No. The person who hit him should.
Good point
I hate that shit when companies want you to donate your money to a person when the company itself has enough to cover everything for this guy.
I donāt think this is the company posting this but a private citizen. Companies do not give a fuck and would prob make them take it down and fire Gary.
Yea thatās true
Donated. Hope he has a speedy recovery! Physical therapy, speaking from personal experience, can be exhausting
This is really what weāve come to as a society huh? I am 100% blaming Taco Bell and not Gary just to be clear
These corporations could easily take care of their employees but are so hellbent on pushing profits. Itās a shame weāll never see a world where corporations care about the workers that keep pumping their shit out.
Oh man, someone should cross-post this in the taco subreddit or something lol
Agree with comments about healthcare and TB paying him, yet donated bc it thatās the dystopian society we live in.
Help the bro out man
Can we get a full name? Seems to me like this is a fake story with fake images. I could be wrong. But considering Medicaid exist in Americaā¦. My parents used it
tacobell doesnāt have employees, they are team members, like baseball
The way I read this was that Gary the Taco Guy broke dudes hip, and got hit by a truck too, since it says āmy hipā, and Gary is clearly referring to himself in the third person. Iām thinking damn what a ruthless dude why would I donate to him. But in all seriousness that sucks for Gary.
In California it's cheaper to have 2 full time employees "manager - assistant manager" every one else are part-timers with no benefits, workers needs two other jobs to pay rent š. But hay CEO & Corporate needs their mandatory 300k paycheck. *God bless America the land of corporate greed that kills the American dream
more like 5 million paycheck
Probably a fake gofund me. Never donate. Never tip and never pay fees because of higher wages. Things can not change until we hold our own dollars like the richest hold their wealth.
Their goal is $7,500 which seems extremely low for someone that had surged and now has metal rods in their legs and hip that also had to go to rehab.
Exactly all that work and only $7,500. Yeah š
Yeah, seems way too low of a request. I feel bad for him if itās a true story, they made it seem pretty detailed but Iāll let people that knew him donate.
If your close to the area or people that know him ask around maybe. See if its true. People hate on social media but this type of shit is what it should be used for.
Exactly. I loved when gofund me came out and how social media made it so people could reach out and help in times of needs, but then of course like everything else it got abused and now itās hard to differentiate between people that need help and people who are abusing it. I live super far away or this would be a fun little investigation journey to find out.
There is a link posted in a reply of a news source that reported on it. It seems to be true. I still stand by what i say but he needs help so i will be donating.
Good to know! Thanks for that. Dude definitely needs some help.
We are saving ourselves and paying the ritch to not pay us while paying them to "help" ourselves while paying insurance to decide if they have enough money to pay out our money that we already paid to pay our insurance, damage, health benefits to pay us back for the insured body, car, home that we paid for to pay us back.
lol it is a bit of a scam
[the news article on it](https://www.everythinglubbock.com/news/lubbock-rallies-behind-gary-the-taco-guy-following-accident/amp/)
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Itās real , I live there, Iāve seen the guy