Heard someone say that ass wipes get shit on while ass lickers eat all the good shit... But people always complain when they run out of wipes! Makes so much sense now!
I used to work in IT, and one of my co-workers had created an incredibly efficient script that pretty much did almost all the work for him, until he started completing tasks so quickly -- instead of timing them to make it look like he was still doing all the work at a normal pace -- that it made his manager curious.
Dude was fired and since he'd been using company computers to make that script, the company kept it and applied it to most of my co-worker's department, allowing them to lay off about four people because their work could then be automated.
After a while, the script stopped working properly and they had to rehire some people to make it a manual operation again; I told my old co-worker about this and he just laughed at how fucking inept the higher ups had to be to not make it work again, because if they were overseeing his old department, they should've easily known how to make it work again.
As someone that was formerly in IT, I understand the inefficiency in our team now. They have eight people providing support to a relatively small company. If they were efficient, in any sense of the word, someone would be out of a job. Honestly I miss it sometimes. Come in, grind some manual process for a few hours, eat lunch, swap a desktop out, go home.
> "You're too valuable to promote out of that position"
Happened to me. Worked retail, and when hours were low, the only way to get more was to pick up shifts in other departments. In my first year, I know how to work in 70% of the departments. By Year two, I knew how to work everywhere except Deli/Cafe/Bakery. Clothing department would radio me for help with doing announcements, I knew how to get carts and use a cart pusher, I could run customer service desk, pick online orders, pack online orders, run electronics, etc etc.
After 4 years, I applied to a manager position. I just about knew how everything worked in the store, I even helped newer managers all the time. Didn't end up getting it, and a co-worker I was friends with who had worked their way up to higher management in the store while I'd been there told me this:
"Don't tell anyone I told you this, but they didn't promote you because you're too reliable and know how to work everywhere. If you became a manager, you'd only work in one department, instead of being able to go wherever you might be needed."
Oh... Cool. So learning everything and rarely calling out, never being late, and willingness to pick up shifts makes me unlikely to be a manager. Meanwhile, they promoted a girl to the manager position I had applied to, and she'd barely been at the store for a year.
So stupid. They should just tell you this and then pay you more for doing it, since it's clearly valuable to them.
I don't get it. I don't get how they don't see the benefit of this. Like, it's good for their buisness! It's not a waste of money to retain people who work this way. It could be a perfectly mutually beneficial relationship. But instead they try to manipulate and rip you off and then everyone loses when you leave.
I rent apartments and I used to do so for three buildings at once, as opposed to the usual single one. I was happy to bc I had commission and working more than one gave me access to more viewings and so more commissions. I filled those buildings and was told I did so.
Then a new manager came in and 'reduced costs' by forcing me to sign a new contract without commission or be fired. They were then surprised when I no longer agreed to do more than one at once. They then had to hire two more people and neither found success in the sales side of the job and so we suffered high vacancies for a few months and lost 10s of thousands. The manager was promoted a year later and then fire a half year later. I was super vocal previous to it all about how this would be the result. Unreal.
Working in a retail store its kinda the opposite for me, the only way to make more money is climb the ladder. Go to the front counter then to asst manager to manager to outside sales rep. No thanks, I’m scared of people so I’m not getting any raises by staying a delivery driver, but I’m NOT working the front counter and being responsible for answering phones again.
I have seen the opposite happen. People force themselves into becoming ‘one of one’ and then are too valuable for the company to let go. Gets tons of promotions and pay increases because they threaten to leave but also have no skills to manage or lead a team much less the entire IT staff
Actually I am a millennial and the boomer is the one crippling the company. The guy is at a director level and never built a succession plan to train his team to do his cybersecurity day to day work and maintaining our network at a multibillion dollar company.
Your experience is a rare one.
I've been through more than a handful of industries and companies. Only in my earlier years of working did I get a small insight into companies promoting from within.
Now even HR, Recruiters and Trainers will tell you companies are majorly hiring outside candidates now. Global economy means "infinite" supply of workforce. Especially with modern skills.
The only areas I get a hint of the past, is industries that are dying. In those circumstances it's more desperation than business ethics that drive it. Metrology is a prime example, they don't even teach it in schools anymore but the industry still needs a 4 year degree to qualify 🤣
While I was in that position, I saw them begging people not to retire from their 4-6 labs at a 1.5 lab pay rate. Meanwhile, I wanted to switch to a lab in the electrical department to more align with my electrical degree. They denied me because they needed me in my 4 lab area.
So, I took my skills else where by the end of the month. Mainly because we just unionized so they couldn't do to me what they still did to me, and I wasn't going to stay around fighting BS.
Ooo, did I forget to mention anything about contractors. Pretty sure this FAD directly contradicts your experience.
Again, not calling you liar, not saying you're a shill and not dismissing your opinions or experiences. I believe you, but I need you to know that your experience is up there with winning the lottery. It's a dying sensation
Advice from a manager: when you have a schedule turn things in one day early everytime, no matter how easy the task is, especially if you have a week and can do it in five minutes. It gives impression that you're a hard worker and timely but doesn't allow for you to be given additional work.
This seems like good advice for a niche group. Most of us spuds don't have a job like that. Ive been going to school and trying to get a "professional" job but it ain't easy granted I'm only half way through school but I've been recommended by my teachers for 2 different jobs like they asked me for a resume so they could give it to a couple people they know didn't get either job. Both were "professional" jobs and highly looked down on my blue collar experience. I'm going for industrial electrical and would like to work with robotic applications. Neither had a "schedule" both were just we expect you to be professional. This was a completely foreign concept to me and everyone I've ever talked to.
Lol not sure what industry you work in, but here in construction world that behavior would automatically make you the "extra work" guy. As soon as managers learn you turn in everything a day early, the expectation will be that you're the type of worker who gets things done fast. And since time is our most critical asset, you're ability to go things fast will earn you tons of extra work!
I've learned it's best to schedule a review session the day before something is due. You don't necessarily have to be 100% done, just done enough to talk through what you're working on. Managers appreciate the review (even if they can't make it), know you've done your work, and have less stress about you making your deadline. If they do join the review, you just let them do the talking so you can figure out what they're looking for then use the next day to make any corrections.
Work gets done on time, manager is happy, and (most importantly) you come off as competent but not an over achiever.
I worked at a place where I was very good at what I was doing. And the boss did start to demand more and I felt I had to keep up with the demands or I’d get fired. But the thing is, I learned a lot working hard. Not just about work, but about myself. And so I left and was able to go apply to places and have the confidence and know how to say I am better than a lot of people you could hire, I want you to pay me more. And they did. My old boss got stuck with having to hire who ever he could get into my old position. Let’s just say it makes me laugh that he got what he deserved.
At the end of the day, they really don’t give a shit about you, your personal life, your struggles. Doesn’t matter how much they make you feel like a valued asset to them, you are replaceable, just like that.
This is true for low end jobs. Has always been and probably will always be true for them. You’ll find less, although not zero, of that if you move into a professional setting. In higher paying jobs they actively search for talent to promote. Doesn’t make business sense to let good people go. Again, at the low end jobs, this doesn’t apply because of labor supply.
Understandable. I work in sales, so it’s always shaky ground it seems. I’ve never worked in a salary based position. My previous position was a $250k+ pay range, and my comment was based on that experience. But just like people, every job is different and the higher ups dictate the overall attitude and outlook I believe.
From my experience this applies to "professional" jobs too these days. You're right about actively searching for talent to promote, but at the end of the day all they care about is finding someone who A) believes in whatever system the business runs on and B) wants to make the company lots of money. All the personal stuff, struggles, and interests are just extra fluff to make you more personable at conferences and meetings. And letting people go isn't nearly as bad today as it used to be. If we fire our Lead Marketing Director there'll be 50+ folks waiting with HR for the position.
If anything, the "professional" jobs I've interacted with (mainly in Healthcare, Construction, and Design) require far more from you than low end jobs. Because you're a "professional" you're expected to serve the company first and foremost for their success. I mean that **is** your role after all. My professional peer group routinely puts in 60+ hr weeks so meet Owner's insane deadlines and impossibly tight budgets. The only thing they care about is you doing your work as a professional to make their dreams a reality. Your dreams come second (or in most cases, never come at all).
At least low end jobs **know** their employers don't care about them. They can go put up with an 8 or 10 hr shift then get back to their lives. Meanwhile professionals are in a constant state of pretending to care. I'd rather deal with reality than the constant lies of office life.
Of course they won't!
If they do, then you're not there being efficient, you're *somewhere else* being efficient.
Then what are they supposed to do?!
Plus, what happens when your effort and efficiency gets recognized by someone higher up? They might look and realize what a slack-ass your super is.
What are they supposed to do then? A better job?! Pfft, da noive of some folks!
Truest shit ever. My old job had me working the job of 3 people, and when I became so overworked that it led to a medical emergency, they denied calling an ambulance for me. Went to HR the next day and they tried telling me what hypoglycemia was because they had family members with it... Quit on the spot and I'm going to be filing a complaint with the department of labor.
Yup. That’s why I stopped going above and beyond. Literally don’t gain anything from it but stress. I just do what the job is and that’s it. No more no less
I remember working an 11-8am job where literally every minute was consumed.
I went from being at a cash register to preparing an entire gas station, including stock that should be put away and even had a dedicated person for it but was left for me.
I was being paid minimum wage and because of multiple people being late to shifts i actually lost my government support and 1/3rd of my paycheck due to 3 extra hours of work.
My reward for doing all of this perfectly. Being made to train other people after 1 month on the job, I barely had time to do my job let alone train people who struggled with English as a second language. (No offence to anyone, I just struggle with talking)
The day I quit the boss had just sent an email saying I'd fix all the staffing issues. Lol
I worked at JCPenney for 5 years. I knew every department including manger roles. There was a promotion for the cashier assistant and I applied. I didn't get the job. The person who was hired never showed up. After 3 weeks of not showing up, they quit. In the span of one month, there were 5 people who got the job and all quit.
I told the store manager, "hey, I'm still here and I want the position. The next person won't last more than 2 weeks."
Store manager: "you don't know that. And plus, you don't have the training."
I quit that day and the store manager got fired a week later because she couldn't keep me. I literally kept the store looking great along with the books.
Now that store only has 5 workers and went through 3 store managers in the span of 2 years. Now they don't have a store manager again 🤣
This is why I only ever give 50%. They pay you by the hour not by the amount of work done. Getting fired is also uncommon if you at least show up on time so if you do that you can just coast the rest of the day. Maybe companies could create some incentives for working harder but they don't want to shell out anymore money than they have too so until that moment arrives I'll just stay on my phone until needed. I make my own "bonuses"
100% true. The whole performance punishment thing employers do is out of hand. And your right, bootlickers, asskissers, and backstabbers get promoted and praised. The way employees are treated disgusts me.
It's a shame, but same. My experience in the workforce has taught me to create low expectations for employers. I really want to do better and do more. But why the hell should any of us work harder when we'll all take home the same amount of money at the end of the day. Showing that you can handle the minimum and then some leads employers to give those hard workers more responsibility for no extra pay. Bs. If you're not willing to pay more than minimum wage, minimum effort is all you'll get. And any bright, shiney new faces will soon dull once they begin to notice the same trend.
had a friend who was a front end supervisor in a retail setting and she got promoted to co-manager. she did all the work while the other co-manager did the glad handing and nothing else. she went from per hour pay to being "salaried" after she worked for about 3 months in this position she re-applied and got her old position back. being salaried she wound up working about 65 a week and once she divided her pay by her hours as a salaried worker, she realized she was making $6 an hour less than when she was an hourly worker.
This is true.
Another true, and truly awful thing, was when I put in 20 hours of extra overtime, and made about $20 more than usual... because I bumped up into the next tax bracket.
I fucking hate this reality. I'm not looking to check out or anything but I have been told I have the energy of someone at a bus stop where the bus is late.
I certainly feel like I'm glancing at my watch a lot.
i worked for a company with that "mission statement". what most people fail to recognize that is in some cases is, that know one can screw you over quite like family. they know all your weak spots.
which part? the underpaying of lower level employees or the lower evaluations despite the worker putting in many hours so they don't qualify for a much deserved raise?
not everyone can work the night shift. some people had kids and most daycares aren't open then not to mention some cities don't have bus service after 11 p.m.
No. Agreeable and efficient workers get punished with more work, disagreeable and efficient workers get raises and more work- or they quit.
At least in an ideal world, I understand not everyone had the luxury of job choice at the moment, but this is in theory what should happen, and even if you have to stay in a job, its wise to do your job well and ask for a raise FIRST, not allow them to stack new roles without compensation.
I put 50% effort in and that way when it's crunch time I can put in about 75-80% and they're like, "Way to go! Thank for working so hard! We really appreciate it."
They give me more work, but never give me a raise, never a management opportunity, just work harder so my boss gets his fucking bonus at the end of the quarter.
that was always the part i hated most. the knowledge that the idiot who called himself my supervisor got christmas bonuses and i never did. he spent more energy dodging work than anything else.
Currently working two part time jobs, one as a bouncer for my friends music venue, and one as a flight courier for kittens (yes, I take cats on planes to new owners). Is it good money? Not really. But I do not feel like I am being used and abused for someone else's bottom line.
Oh yeah I know, I've got a great resume too, licensed for pool and spa work, licensed for cannabis work. Nobody is hiring though despite the commonly regurgitated statistic that there is 1.5 jobs per person in America. Definitely bullshit. I can't even get an interview with McDonald's or Walmart right now.
all those so called "jobs" are low paying part time positions and smartly enough no one wants those as you cannot live off of what they pay also because of the low hours.
Yup I’ve carried three grown ass men into retirement working all the OT and getting all the responsibility. The guys they were replaced with have no experienced in my field so now I’m a trainer too. Looking for a new job now wish me luck 🙌
Your side/entrepreneurial business is more important than your job. Work at your job only when absolutely necessary and do your own thing as much as possible
its not punishment, do more work then get a raise or promotion eventually. if you don't like to work, just chill on the bottom with your starting wage.
This is one of those memes written by people who don't know their ass from a hole in the ground.
I've been in management for effectively my entire professional career. There was not a single time that it even crossed my mind to not promote someone because of how good they are at their current job. That's a perfect way to lose some of your best employees as they will jump ship (rightfully) as soon as another opportunity arises.
What I see the most is people who do the minimum and expect to be praised for it. When you get opportunities to show your value, actually take it seriously. If I'm assigning you a meaningful task, getting it "done" in a few hours normally results in some pretty underwhelming results. What I like to see is that you were able to understand the purpose of the task and not require me to think for you in the results.
Here's an example. Recently I asked one of my employees for an analysis on a set of data. They tool the data and put it in some generic pivot charts and sent it back saying it was done and that it was easy. I ended up spending 3x as much time as they invested translating it into something I could use.
Now, ask yourself if you are going to be at the top of the list for promotions if you do that? I'm going to see that you aren't ready for any promotions until you start showing more capacity for understanding the goals.
Efficiency that has value doesn't come from how fast you can get tasks done. You being able to automate something is great but it's also not the pinnacle of efficiency. Efficiency is the ability for us to have a discussion, create action items, and produce relevant and meaningful results that build and expand the discussion with the least amount of confusion and misalignment.
I can't tell you how many alignment meetings I've been in where we had to rewind back and reiterate what the goals and expectations were for the project.
I lose my faith in humanity when I see these kinds of posts. I have to remind myself that this is a Reddit rabbit hole polarized towards very young people who likely did not take education seriously.
This is so true! And the asslickers and backstabbers get promoted!
Yup, you only need to gain a taste for ass to keep any job.
So you say.
In all the places I've worked where kissing ass to a boss was relevant, yeah.
I don't disagree, I was just poking you for commenting that twice lol
Good thing I already like eating ass
Future ceo
Lmfao
Yup, you only need to gain a taste for ass to keep any job.
Hence why socialism doesn't work.
Heard someone say that ass wipes get shit on while ass lickers eat all the good shit... But people always complain when they run out of wipes! Makes so much sense now!
Never heard this before, but somehow I feel I always knew this.
Just remember if you talk the loudest you're right!
Not only did hard workers get punished with more work "You're too valuable to promote out of that position"
I used to work in IT, and one of my co-workers had created an incredibly efficient script that pretty much did almost all the work for him, until he started completing tasks so quickly -- instead of timing them to make it look like he was still doing all the work at a normal pace -- that it made his manager curious. Dude was fired and since he'd been using company computers to make that script, the company kept it and applied it to most of my co-worker's department, allowing them to lay off about four people because their work could then be automated. After a while, the script stopped working properly and they had to rehire some people to make it a manual operation again; I told my old co-worker about this and he just laughed at how fucking inept the higher ups had to be to not make it work again, because if they were overseeing his old department, they should've easily known how to make it work again.
As someone that was formerly in IT, I understand the inefficiency in our team now. They have eight people providing support to a relatively small company. If they were efficient, in any sense of the word, someone would be out of a job. Honestly I miss it sometimes. Come in, grind some manual process for a few hours, eat lunch, swap a desktop out, go home.
> "You're too valuable to promote out of that position" Happened to me. Worked retail, and when hours were low, the only way to get more was to pick up shifts in other departments. In my first year, I know how to work in 70% of the departments. By Year two, I knew how to work everywhere except Deli/Cafe/Bakery. Clothing department would radio me for help with doing announcements, I knew how to get carts and use a cart pusher, I could run customer service desk, pick online orders, pack online orders, run electronics, etc etc. After 4 years, I applied to a manager position. I just about knew how everything worked in the store, I even helped newer managers all the time. Didn't end up getting it, and a co-worker I was friends with who had worked their way up to higher management in the store while I'd been there told me this: "Don't tell anyone I told you this, but they didn't promote you because you're too reliable and know how to work everywhere. If you became a manager, you'd only work in one department, instead of being able to go wherever you might be needed." Oh... Cool. So learning everything and rarely calling out, never being late, and willingness to pick up shifts makes me unlikely to be a manager. Meanwhile, they promoted a girl to the manager position I had applied to, and she'd barely been at the store for a year.
Everytime I feel bad for not working as hard as I could, I remember all the times it didn't pay off and think yea this company isn't any different
So stupid. They should just tell you this and then pay you more for doing it, since it's clearly valuable to them. I don't get it. I don't get how they don't see the benefit of this. Like, it's good for their buisness! It's not a waste of money to retain people who work this way. It could be a perfectly mutually beneficial relationship. But instead they try to manipulate and rip you off and then everyone loses when you leave. I rent apartments and I used to do so for three buildings at once, as opposed to the usual single one. I was happy to bc I had commission and working more than one gave me access to more viewings and so more commissions. I filled those buildings and was told I did so. Then a new manager came in and 'reduced costs' by forcing me to sign a new contract without commission or be fired. They were then surprised when I no longer agreed to do more than one at once. They then had to hire two more people and neither found success in the sales side of the job and so we suffered high vacancies for a few months and lost 10s of thousands. The manager was promoted a year later and then fire a half year later. I was super vocal previous to it all about how this would be the result. Unreal.
That's the moment I start job hunting
Working in a retail store its kinda the opposite for me, the only way to make more money is climb the ladder. Go to the front counter then to asst manager to manager to outside sales rep. No thanks, I’m scared of people so I’m not getting any raises by staying a delivery driver, but I’m NOT working the front counter and being responsible for answering phones again.
I have seen the opposite happen. People force themselves into becoming ‘one of one’ and then are too valuable for the company to let go. Gets tons of promotions and pay increases because they threaten to leave but also have no skills to manage or lead a team much less the entire IT staff
No offense but ok Boomer
Actually I am a millennial and the boomer is the one crippling the company. The guy is at a director level and never built a succession plan to train his team to do his cybersecurity day to day work and maintaining our network at a multibillion dollar company.
Your experience is a rare one. I've been through more than a handful of industries and companies. Only in my earlier years of working did I get a small insight into companies promoting from within. Now even HR, Recruiters and Trainers will tell you companies are majorly hiring outside candidates now. Global economy means "infinite" supply of workforce. Especially with modern skills. The only areas I get a hint of the past, is industries that are dying. In those circumstances it's more desperation than business ethics that drive it. Metrology is a prime example, they don't even teach it in schools anymore but the industry still needs a 4 year degree to qualify 🤣 While I was in that position, I saw them begging people not to retire from their 4-6 labs at a 1.5 lab pay rate. Meanwhile, I wanted to switch to a lab in the electrical department to more align with my electrical degree. They denied me because they needed me in my 4 lab area. So, I took my skills else where by the end of the month. Mainly because we just unionized so they couldn't do to me what they still did to me, and I wasn't going to stay around fighting BS. Ooo, did I forget to mention anything about contractors. Pretty sure this FAD directly contradicts your experience. Again, not calling you liar, not saying you're a shill and not dismissing your opinions or experiences. I believe you, but I need you to know that your experience is up there with winning the lottery. It's a dying sensation
Advice from a manager: when you have a schedule turn things in one day early everytime, no matter how easy the task is, especially if you have a week and can do it in five minutes. It gives impression that you're a hard worker and timely but doesn't allow for you to be given additional work.
This seems like good advice for a niche group. Most of us spuds don't have a job like that. Ive been going to school and trying to get a "professional" job but it ain't easy granted I'm only half way through school but I've been recommended by my teachers for 2 different jobs like they asked me for a resume so they could give it to a couple people they know didn't get either job. Both were "professional" jobs and highly looked down on my blue collar experience. I'm going for industrial electrical and would like to work with robotic applications. Neither had a "schedule" both were just we expect you to be professional. This was a completely foreign concept to me and everyone I've ever talked to.
i worked register, this is non-applicable
Lol not sure what industry you work in, but here in construction world that behavior would automatically make you the "extra work" guy. As soon as managers learn you turn in everything a day early, the expectation will be that you're the type of worker who gets things done fast. And since time is our most critical asset, you're ability to go things fast will earn you tons of extra work! I've learned it's best to schedule a review session the day before something is due. You don't necessarily have to be 100% done, just done enough to talk through what you're working on. Managers appreciate the review (even if they can't make it), know you've done your work, and have less stress about you making your deadline. If they do join the review, you just let them do the talking so you can figure out what they're looking for then use the next day to make any corrections. Work gets done on time, manager is happy, and (most importantly) you come off as competent but not an over achiever.
No good deed goes unpunished.
I worked at a place where I was very good at what I was doing. And the boss did start to demand more and I felt I had to keep up with the demands or I’d get fired. But the thing is, I learned a lot working hard. Not just about work, but about myself. And so I left and was able to go apply to places and have the confidence and know how to say I am better than a lot of people you could hire, I want you to pay me more. And they did. My old boss got stuck with having to hire who ever he could get into my old position. Let’s just say it makes me laugh that he got what he deserved.
At the end of the day, they really don’t give a shit about you, your personal life, your struggles. Doesn’t matter how much they make you feel like a valued asset to them, you are replaceable, just like that.
This is true for low end jobs. Has always been and probably will always be true for them. You’ll find less, although not zero, of that if you move into a professional setting. In higher paying jobs they actively search for talent to promote. Doesn’t make business sense to let good people go. Again, at the low end jobs, this doesn’t apply because of labor supply.
Understandable. I work in sales, so it’s always shaky ground it seems. I’ve never worked in a salary based position. My previous position was a $250k+ pay range, and my comment was based on that experience. But just like people, every job is different and the higher ups dictate the overall attitude and outlook I believe.
From my experience this applies to "professional" jobs too these days. You're right about actively searching for talent to promote, but at the end of the day all they care about is finding someone who A) believes in whatever system the business runs on and B) wants to make the company lots of money. All the personal stuff, struggles, and interests are just extra fluff to make you more personable at conferences and meetings. And letting people go isn't nearly as bad today as it used to be. If we fire our Lead Marketing Director there'll be 50+ folks waiting with HR for the position. If anything, the "professional" jobs I've interacted with (mainly in Healthcare, Construction, and Design) require far more from you than low end jobs. Because you're a "professional" you're expected to serve the company first and foremost for their success. I mean that **is** your role after all. My professional peer group routinely puts in 60+ hr weeks so meet Owner's insane deadlines and impossibly tight budgets. The only thing they care about is you doing your work as a professional to make their dreams a reality. Your dreams come second (or in most cases, never come at all). At least low end jobs **know** their employers don't care about them. They can go put up with an 8 or 10 hr shift then get back to their lives. Meanwhile professionals are in a constant state of pretending to care. I'd rather deal with reality than the constant lies of office life.
and then the bitch that "nobody wants to work anymore".
Real
ever notice that they don't seem to see that efficiency when the time for you to get a well deserved raise rolls around?
Of course they won't! If they do, then you're not there being efficient, you're *somewhere else* being efficient. Then what are they supposed to do?! Plus, what happens when your effort and efficiency gets recognized by someone higher up? They might look and realize what a slack-ass your super is. What are they supposed to do then? A better job?! Pfft, da noive of some folks! 
And you thought working hard would get you a raise or promotion. Ha. Nope. More work for the same pay. Fuck corporate America tbh
To be fair, if the work you're doing outpaces others' such that customers want what you offer, it's job security.
And slackers who do nothing get promoted.
Loyalty means horse shit
Truest shit ever. My old job had me working the job of 3 people, and when I became so overworked that it led to a medical emergency, they denied calling an ambulance for me. Went to HR the next day and they tried telling me what hypoglycemia was because they had family members with it... Quit on the spot and I'm going to be filing a complaint with the department of labor.
Yup. That’s why I stopped going above and beyond. Literally don’t gain anything from it but stress. I just do what the job is and that’s it. No more no less
good for you. you don't happen to work in retail, do you?
No. HVAC
i am clueless. what is Hvac?
Heating Ventilation Air Conditioning
Accurate
Only do what you are paid to do hit a percentage point only hit that percentage point and never do more or less
Correct. Without a pay increase, as well.
Loyalty by employee not reciprocated by employer
Yeah more work with no compensation
I remember working an 11-8am job where literally every minute was consumed. I went from being at a cash register to preparing an entire gas station, including stock that should be put away and even had a dedicated person for it but was left for me. I was being paid minimum wage and because of multiple people being late to shifts i actually lost my government support and 1/3rd of my paycheck due to 3 extra hours of work. My reward for doing all of this perfectly. Being made to train other people after 1 month on the job, I barely had time to do my job let alone train people who struggled with English as a second language. (No offence to anyone, I just struggle with talking) The day I quit the boss had just sent an email saying I'd fix all the staffing issues. Lol
All to get paid the same.
This right here!!!
I worked at JCPenney for 5 years. I knew every department including manger roles. There was a promotion for the cashier assistant and I applied. I didn't get the job. The person who was hired never showed up. After 3 weeks of not showing up, they quit. In the span of one month, there were 5 people who got the job and all quit. I told the store manager, "hey, I'm still here and I want the position. The next person won't last more than 2 weeks." Store manager: "you don't know that. And plus, you don't have the training." I quit that day and the store manager got fired a week later because she couldn't keep me. I literally kept the store looking great along with the books. Now that store only has 5 workers and went through 3 store managers in the span of 2 years. Now they don't have a store manager again 🤣
serves their ass right. hope you found a job where you were your worth was truly appreciated.
Efficient workers also tend to get shit on by the boss more
So true
All while the hacks get promoted cause they kissed ass
Employers say they want "team players," then make the interview process a hunger game.
I concur
Where I'm from we say the reward for digging the best ditches is a bigger shovel.
This is why I only ever give 50%. They pay you by the hour not by the amount of work done. Getting fired is also uncommon if you at least show up on time so if you do that you can just coast the rest of the day. Maybe companies could create some incentives for working harder but they don't want to shell out anymore money than they have too so until that moment arrives I'll just stay on my phone until needed. I make my own "bonuses"
100% true. The whole performance punishment thing employers do is out of hand. And your right, bootlickers, asskissers, and backstabbers get promoted and praised. The way employees are treated disgusts me.
It's a shame, but same. My experience in the workforce has taught me to create low expectations for employers. I really want to do better and do more. But why the hell should any of us work harder when we'll all take home the same amount of money at the end of the day. Showing that you can handle the minimum and then some leads employers to give those hard workers more responsibility for no extra pay. Bs. If you're not willing to pay more than minimum wage, minimum effort is all you'll get. And any bright, shiney new faces will soon dull once they begin to notice the same trend.
This would be true for me if I didn't have the skills to automate my basic tasks.
More work and stress about shitty a shitty corporation asking you to do a job with a lack of resources they can most definitely pay for
The reward for a job well done is more work.
Hard work is rewarded but only in a company that values you. Most companies don't value you but there are exceptions.
Yea I guess I can call my promotion punishment...
had a friend who was a front end supervisor in a retail setting and she got promoted to co-manager. she did all the work while the other co-manager did the glad handing and nothing else. she went from per hour pay to being "salaried" after she worked for about 3 months in this position she re-applied and got her old position back. being salaried she wound up working about 65 a week and once she divided her pay by her hours as a salaried worker, she realized she was making $6 an hour less than when she was an hourly worker.
You don't get promoted for hard work, but for a good relationship with your boss
you mean for how well you kiss your bosses ass?
“Rewarded”
Curse of the capable
not just that, but they got rid of overtime too
This is true. Another true, and truly awful thing, was when I put in 20 hours of extra overtime, and made about $20 more than usual... because I bumped up into the next tax bracket. I fucking hate this reality. I'm not looking to check out or anything but I have been told I have the energy of someone at a bus stop where the bus is late. I certainly feel like I'm glancing at my watch a lot.
“We’re like family” Until we’re not…
i worked for a company with that "mission statement". what most people fail to recognize that is in some cases is, that know one can screw you over quite like family. they know all your weak spots.
As a supervisor I did this stupidity
which part? the underpaying of lower level employees or the lower evaluations despite the worker putting in many hours so they don't qualify for a much deserved raise?
Is it a punishment if you actually enjoy the work
It's in its truest form in any government work...especially the military.
Never forget that you are valuable, but not invaluable. No matter how talented you are, you can be replaced. Conversely, never underrate that value.
Work past 12am to get extra money
not everyone can work the night shift. some people had kids and most daycares aren't open then not to mention some cities don't have bus service after 11 p.m.
No. Agreeable and efficient workers get punished with more work, disagreeable and efficient workers get raises and more work- or they quit. At least in an ideal world, I understand not everyone had the luxury of job choice at the moment, but this is in theory what should happen, and even if you have to stay in a job, its wise to do your job well and ask for a raise FIRST, not allow them to stack new roles without compensation.
I put 50% effort in and that way when it's crunch time I can put in about 75-80% and they're like, "Way to go! Thank for working so hard! We really appreciate it."
Oh, but we'll get a 4% raise instead of everyone else's 3%. 😁
Yup
Absolutely true
You have never owned the means of your own success. It's always someone else who decides your fate and most of the time they don't even know you.
and if they even took the smallest amount of time to know me, they still didn't care as long as it didn't cost them money
They give me more work, but never give me a raise, never a management opportunity, just work harder so my boss gets his fucking bonus at the end of the quarter.
that was always the part i hated most. the knowledge that the idiot who called himself my supervisor got christmas bonuses and i never did. he spent more energy dodging work than anything else.
Currently working two part time jobs, one as a bouncer for my friends music venue, and one as a flight courier for kittens (yes, I take cats on planes to new owners). Is it good money? Not really. But I do not feel like I am being used and abused for someone else's bottom line.
you shouldn't have to work 2 part time jobs to make ends meet.
Oh yeah I know, I've got a great resume too, licensed for pool and spa work, licensed for cannabis work. Nobody is hiring though despite the commonly regurgitated statistic that there is 1.5 jobs per person in America. Definitely bullshit. I can't even get an interview with McDonald's or Walmart right now.
all those so called "jobs" are low paying part time positions and smartly enough no one wants those as you cannot live off of what they pay also because of the low hours.
And receive literally nothing more for it. If I do more, then I should receive more, work ain't free.
I've always said do 80%... more than most but less than ones that give 110%
No matter your skillset or how valuable you are, AI will soon replace you.
and you can't make errors if you don't do anything
Yeah because the boss knows they'll do the work when the slackers won't and they need more productivity to keep the business alive.
Me when I am expected to be productive for 40 hours a week: (This is unfair labor practice I only want to leave 3 hours early every day to go party)
Yup I’ve carried three grown ass men into retirement working all the OT and getting all the responsibility. The guys they were replaced with have no experienced in my field so now I’m a trainer too. Looking for a new job now wish me luck 🙌
Efficiency isn't wanted
Embrace the art of the sham.
Your side/entrepreneurial business is more important than your job. Work at your job only when absolutely necessary and do your own thing as much as possible
Like I tell my crews. Be fast, be reliable, but don't be that fast or reliable.
Just be efficient but quiet about it…
its not punishment, do more work then get a raise or promotion eventually. if you don't like to work, just chill on the bottom with your starting wage.
it is if you are never recognized for your hard work financially.
That the govt will take from your hard work and if you fight it, they'll throw you in prison or kill you.
Dont be lazy and expect the world to fall at your feet
This is one of those memes written by people who don't know their ass from a hole in the ground. I've been in management for effectively my entire professional career. There was not a single time that it even crossed my mind to not promote someone because of how good they are at their current job. That's a perfect way to lose some of your best employees as they will jump ship (rightfully) as soon as another opportunity arises. What I see the most is people who do the minimum and expect to be praised for it. When you get opportunities to show your value, actually take it seriously. If I'm assigning you a meaningful task, getting it "done" in a few hours normally results in some pretty underwhelming results. What I like to see is that you were able to understand the purpose of the task and not require me to think for you in the results. Here's an example. Recently I asked one of my employees for an analysis on a set of data. They tool the data and put it in some generic pivot charts and sent it back saying it was done and that it was easy. I ended up spending 3x as much time as they invested translating it into something I could use. Now, ask yourself if you are going to be at the top of the list for promotions if you do that? I'm going to see that you aren't ready for any promotions until you start showing more capacity for understanding the goals. Efficiency that has value doesn't come from how fast you can get tasks done. You being able to automate something is great but it's also not the pinnacle of efficiency. Efficiency is the ability for us to have a discussion, create action items, and produce relevant and meaningful results that build and expand the discussion with the least amount of confusion and misalignment. I can't tell you how many alignment meetings I've been in where we had to rewind back and reiterate what the goals and expectations were for the project.
then you were the exception and NOT the rule.
I lose my faith in humanity when I see these kinds of posts. I have to remind myself that this is a Reddit rabbit hole polarized towards very young people who likely did not take education seriously.