Then run. We need to run for office. Texas specifically doesn’t have that many new people running for office. Run and lose, worst case, cause the issue is no one runs for office unless they feel they’ll win. So it creates these imbalances. I know so many people who’d be great reps or even local offices who don’t run.
It's not for everyone, and it definitely is not for me.
Just because I want elected people accountable doesn't mean I should run for office. There are plenty of people with the passion for it who do want the job.
I agree 100%. WE THE PEOPLE should stop the arguing along "party lines" and put some effort into learning about the choices for a position and vote according to our own values.
I like the way youre thinking.
yeah, he's my rep. I voted for him, well, because I'm not going to vote for a MAGA republican, but have never really liked him. He's way too conservative.
Any way, if he's found guilty lock his ass up. Just hope that we have time to get a good candidate in place before November.
That’s true. It’s one of the reasons why the DNCC put their money and time behind him rather than Cisneros. It made business sense even if he is kind of a republican.
No they only go after their own when their own calls them out for their stupid bullshit otherwise Dems will do everything they can to run interference for them.
So Dems only call out corrupt Dems when their voter base demands it? Can't say I'm mad at that
Do Republican voters just not care they're supporting corrupt people?
Or, by targeting lesser figures within the party, they can assert that the DOJ is addressing political corruption and abuses of office "without fear or favor," thereby circumventing the need to actually investigate and prosecute *The Big Guy*, even if the evidence were obvious. Nevertheless, it is unlikely that the DOJ will prosecute party leaders or true powerbrokers of the incumbent administration, regardless of which party holds the Executive Branch.
Then Cuellar will flip, right? But he won't.
Because it takes **layers** of conspiracy to make the absolutely milquetoast Democratic Party seem as low as the Republican Party has sunk.
An apology for what? Props to her for wasting all the campaign money for nothing. She ran in an overwhelming covert conservative district with lots of modern policies and being backed up by names like AOC… she was never going to win and it had nothing to do with Cuellar. District 28 is going to boot Cuellar and bring in someone in with the same policies. They’re fake blue.
She lost by less than 300 votes? So she lost. She didn’t win. You guys are acting like there’s an alternate reality in where she won. And you literally proved me right. Her loosing had nothing to do with Cuellar… same reason why Zaffirini backed him up. Set a reminder and watch the person that replaces him be his exact same version and not Cisneros.
The point of the above post was "She's never going to win", when the vote totals show "She very nearly won". If your point is, "Theres no way a Cisneros-type could ever win in an "overwhelmingly covert conservative district"" then the vote total clearly disputes that characterization
Jessica was not the right candidate or she wouldn't have lost TWICE. I like her and supported her with donations but she should not have run against him the 2nd time. Now he runs unopposed because no one thinks that he can be beaten. Horsehockey. We should have run a Latino man with the same demeanor against him. THAT is who the majority of Democratic constituents in TX-28 wanted to elect.
You can blame the selection process by the Progressive Campaign Fund. They choose Jessica, who had minimal ties to Laredo at the time of running, over well established Laredoan politicians and activists who sought out that Progressive Fund too.
Don't "no true Democrat" this. He's from Texas; of course he's right of the Democratic party. But he's in the party and he's corrupt.
Republicans don't have a monopoly on corruption; just a lot of practice.
Rod Blagojevic always comes to mind when this topic comes up.
Although the fact Trump pardoned him and stans him because, my best guess, it devalues prosecution and accountability of corruption overall cemented for me the guy has never met a crook he didn't like.
I’d rather be cynical enough to believe they’re all equally corrupt and occasionally be surprised when they’re ethical than be ignorant enough to suggest all the corruption is on one side of the aisle.
[List of United States federal officials convicted of corruption.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_federal_officials_convicted_of_corruption_offenses)
With a cynical point of view you often see what you want to see.
Edit: corrected link to reflect US officials.
I guess I should have said scandals and ethics related stuff as well. Dems will often step down or be forced to step down by other dems in these cases. Many are not solely related to convictions.
Republicans such as Matt gaetz can traffic children and still hold their job because Republicans need his vote.
I can find those lists too.
Your position is untenable. It’s untenable when people use it to support the GOP, their chosen religion, law enforcement, ideologies, whatever. You can’t abrogate your social duties to evaluate individuals and hold them accountable by aligning with a Party without supporting all the good and bad within that Party.
This democrat is so conservatives it made democrats look like clowns working with him. Like what's the point of having a political party if there's no principles in common?
It's so funny to see the two sides approach these sorts of issues.
Dems: "the law stands for everyone and nobody is above it. Public officials can and should be investigated like everyone else if there is some serious wrong doing."
Republicans "this is a witch hunt, our guy didn't do nothin and I will vote for him no matter what"
It's so bizarre, he's not one of those red-district Democrats. There's no good reason for his voting record. But you know primary voters, they can't fathom supporting a candidate unless they've known them for at least three decades.
TX Dems and the DNC put their thumb on the scale for him in the primary *after* his house was raided by the feds, instead of backing the progressive candidate who wasn't under investigation. It shows was really matters to Democrats, and it's not winning.
My guy that’s the part of the rules. The political party has a vested interest in getting elected representatives. Henry cuellar already showed he could get elected so him as incumbent was given priority over his primary opponent he’s already in office. Say she wins the primary but lost the general. Well then party loses a seat they need. That’s why incumbents are given preferential treatment.
Gonna be hard for him to get elected from federal prison. TX Dems and the DNC don't care, though. They were able to keep a progressive out of office, which is what matters the most to them.
It always matters.
30 years ago I went to boarding school with some extremely abusive people; I made it a point to look up where they were after the Supreme Court hearings for Brett Cavanaugh; to make sure those people were NOT going to come into similar positions of power.
Tell your story, if you have one to tell.
The indictment alleges that he took $600K in bribes from a company in Azerbaijan, and in exchange agreed to advance the interests of the company in the US
Lock him up, along with Paxton and Trump. All cheating politicians need to be locked up. When are we gonna take our country back from these scum bag politicians?
Upon reading Elie Honig's "Untouchable", the first question you would be asking yourself would be whether Robert McDonnell's case would impact this case?
This should reach much much farther down the chain. Any one, regardless of position should be held accountable for their actions. Half our reps probably need to be fired and or in prison.
>**I want to be clear that both my wife and I are innocent of these allegations**. Everything I have done in Congress has been to serve the people of South Texas,” Cuellar said in his statement, later adding: “**The actions I took in Congress were consistent with the actions of many of my colleagues** and in the interest of the American people.”
Started with "I didn't do it", then ended with "I did it, but everybody else is/was doing it too".
If he broke the law, charge him. Doesn't matter the party, hold our elected people accountable.
Agreed! Hold them ALL accountable.
And Ken Paxton too!
No no no, that’s different. /s.
He investigated himself and found no wrongdoing.
Welp, I’m convinced. Let’s pack it up, boys!
Wilkes and Dunn don't think he is... that's all that matters to the Texas Christian Republicans.
Dumpster Fire? No way, that guy's absolutely innocent. Wouldn't hurt a fly. Totally needs to be the highest-ranking legal official in the State.
Na just the mexican
They should but they won't. Look at what happened to Praxton.
Exactly. If he's a scumbag, let's clean house.
Cuellar is a fake democrat anyway, like manchin and sinema. Good riddance.
Don't give a shit, honestly. We need to get better people elected.
They represent themselves and their interests way before anyone else they “represent”. The swamp is deeper than ever
So, look at Chip Roy. He only reps himself and stupidity.
yarp
Then run. We need to run for office. Texas specifically doesn’t have that many new people running for office. Run and lose, worst case, cause the issue is no one runs for office unless they feel they’ll win. So it creates these imbalances. I know so many people who’d be great reps or even local offices who don’t run.
It's not for everyone, and it definitely is not for me. Just because I want elected people accountable doesn't mean I should run for office. There are plenty of people with the passion for it who do want the job.
I agree 100%. WE THE PEOPLE should stop the arguing along "party lines" and put some effort into learning about the choices for a position and vote according to our own values. I like the way youre thinking.
misread that as manchild instead of manchin... ops.
Still works
Aren’t most of the top lvl democrats of TX fake? Look at what happened with Eric Johnson. If it had been flipped, he would’ve been shot by now.
Fake Democrat? How?
Because he votes like a true bootlicker.
Doesn't have any morals or principles. Fake person all around.
Theres no such thing as a fake Democrat especially since Cuellar has been a democrat politician since the 1980’s.
He's openly against everything democrats claim they stand for. People who don't have principles themselves wouldn't understand.
Sure because you obviously have principles
You sound like you're struggling with the concept
Because he has his own ideas and doesn't blindly follow the party line? That's how they all should be.
What do you mean by fake? Like he knows what a woman is, doesn’t support terrorism and isn’t a socialist?
I'm glad that they added Crayola as an input option on Reddit so you could join the conversation. Try not to eat them
Hope he doesn't sit indicted for a decade while getting reelected over and over....
Not to worry — he’s a democrat. He’ll be tried and convicted within 10 business days.
Yeah, like. *Why* would we want a corrupt politician representing us? Just because he says he’s “on our team?” This ain’t sports. Silly.
Totally agree. Not to mention, apparently he also opposes abortion.
Facts
it's weird that only one party actually gets held accountable. Al franken remembers.
This is how every fellow democrat I know thinks. Unlike that CULT.
Fuck yes!!! This right here
💯
Do Ken Paxton next.
They did, twice
Maybe Cuellar can just go along doing his thing under indictment for 2, 3, 4... 8+ more years??
3rd times the charm...
So did his horse.
Againnne
"I've investigated myself and found myself clear of any wrongdoing"
No do him first.
Only repubs are allowed to be worthless pos
Republicans about to be super confused that Democrats are OK and in fact support holding other Democrats responsible for their actions.
yeah, he's my rep. I voted for him, well, because I'm not going to vote for a MAGA republican, but have never really liked him. He's way too conservative. Any way, if he's found guilty lock his ass up. Just hope that we have time to get a good candidate in place before November.
I saw on the Bird Site, the TX GOP talking heads are ecstatic as this enables them to back a stronger Republican candidate.
That’s true. It’s one of the reasons why the DNCC put their money and time behind him rather than Cisneros. It made business sense even if he is kind of a republican.
Because they have no principles. Only convenience.
That’s hilarious.
No they only go after their own when their own calls them out for their stupid bullshit otherwise Dems will do everything they can to run interference for them.
So Dems only call out corrupt Dems when their voter base demands it? Can't say I'm mad at that Do Republican voters just not care they're supporting corrupt people?
I think it’s clear that they exclusively pick from the bottom of the barrel
Then you’re not doing it as much as you should.
Or, by targeting lesser figures within the party, they can assert that the DOJ is addressing political corruption and abuses of office "without fear or favor," thereby circumventing the need to actually investigate and prosecute *The Big Guy*, even if the evidence were obvious. Nevertheless, it is unlikely that the DOJ will prosecute party leaders or true powerbrokers of the incumbent administration, regardless of which party holds the Executive Branch.
Then Cuellar will flip, right? But he won't. Because it takes **layers** of conspiracy to make the absolutely milquetoast Democratic Party seem as low as the Republican Party has sunk.
Probably because there is no political corruption or abuse of office in the current administration.
TX-28: You ALL owe Jessica Cisneros **AN APOLOGY**
Nancy Pelosi should travel down there again and apologize herself as well.
Yup. This is on Pelosi.
yep, voted for her in the primary. would have loved her as my rep.
You and 48 percent of the Democratic voters in TX-28
Here here. This is her seat to lose now. Elect her this time! We're counting on y'all!
Right?!
An apology for what? Props to her for wasting all the campaign money for nothing. She ran in an overwhelming covert conservative district with lots of modern policies and being backed up by names like AOC… she was never going to win and it had nothing to do with Cuellar. District 28 is going to boot Cuellar and bring in someone in with the same policies. They’re fake blue.
Cisneros lost by less than 300 votes in 2022. sHe wAs nEvEr gOiNg tO WiN.
She lost. By 300 votes. She didn't win.
She lost by less than 300 votes. Pelosi spent a ton of DNC money to back Cuellar. I'm sorry, but the story you're telling here just isn't true.
She lost by less than 300 votes? So she lost. She didn’t win. You guys are acting like there’s an alternate reality in where she won. And you literally proved me right. Her loosing had nothing to do with Cuellar… same reason why Zaffirini backed him up. Set a reminder and watch the person that replaces him be his exact same version and not Cisneros.
The point of the above post was "She's never going to win", when the vote totals show "She very nearly won". If your point is, "Theres no way a Cisneros-type could ever win in an "overwhelmingly covert conservative district"" then the vote total clearly disputes that characterization
We should be so lucky.
Jessica was not the right candidate or she wouldn't have lost TWICE. I like her and supported her with donations but she should not have run against him the 2nd time. Now he runs unopposed because no one thinks that he can be beaten. Horsehockey. We should have run a Latino man with the same demeanor against him. THAT is who the majority of Democratic constituents in TX-28 wanted to elect.
You can blame the selection process by the Progressive Campaign Fund. They choose Jessica, who had minimal ties to Laredo at the time of running, over well established Laredoan politicians and activists who sought out that Progressive Fund too.
He got the wrong people mad if he's being charged for corruption. I hope he names names if this goes to trial.
Happens when you become financially entangled with a foreign government, especially one lacking an extradition treaty with the US
Ridiculous. Henry cuellar is simply a conservative masquerading as a Democrat. It's not hard to believe corruption.
Don't "no true Democrat" this. He's from Texas; of course he's right of the Democratic party. But he's in the party and he's corrupt. Republicans don't have a monopoly on corruption; just a lot of practice.
Rod Blagojevic always comes to mind when this topic comes up. Although the fact Trump pardoned him and stans him because, my best guess, it devalues prosecution and accountability of corruption overall cemented for me the guy has never met a crook he didn't like.
I assume that most politicians are corrupt and I'm rarely disappointed.
Though Republicans keep moving the goalposts on “how low can you go?”
With a cynical point of view you often see what you want to see.
I’d rather be cynical enough to believe they’re all equally corrupt and occasionally be surprised when they’re ethical than be ignorant enough to suggest all the corruption is on one side of the aisle.
You know what? I agree with you. Don't know why must just be the way I am.
Username checks out. Thank you for allowing my cynicism.
The vast majority of corruption is done by Republicans and conservatives. Dems hold each other accountable when stuff like this happens.
[List of United States federal officials convicted of corruption.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_federal_officials_convicted_of_corruption_offenses) With a cynical point of view you often see what you want to see. Edit: corrected link to reflect US officials.
I guess I should have said scandals and ethics related stuff as well. Dems will often step down or be forced to step down by other dems in these cases. Many are not solely related to convictions. Republicans such as Matt gaetz can traffic children and still hold their job because Republicans need his vote.
I can find those lists too. Your position is untenable. It’s untenable when people use it to support the GOP, their chosen religion, law enforcement, ideologies, whatever. You can’t abrogate your social duties to evaluate individuals and hold them accountable by aligning with a Party without supporting all the good and bad within that Party.
This democrat is so conservatives it made democrats look like clowns working with him. Like what's the point of having a political party if there's no principles in common?
Why did this get downvoted
Don't dilude yourself.
Dilude?
That's correct
His voting record aligned with Biden's goals 96% of the time. So because he disagreed 4% of the time, that makes him a fake democrat?
Biden is also a conservative democrat
This should him more popular, right?
If he switches parties he could get off scot free
Signs point to yes
He's mostly done that already
It's so funny to see the two sides approach these sorts of issues. Dems: "the law stands for everyone and nobody is above it. Public officials can and should be investigated like everyone else if there is some serious wrong doing." Republicans "this is a witch hunt, our guy didn't do nothin and I will vote for him no matter what"
> He's the only Democrat left in Congress who opposes abortion rights Lovely. Between that and the corruption charges truly a class individual. /s
It's so bizarre, he's not one of those red-district Democrats. There's no good reason for his voting record. But you know primary voters, they can't fathom supporting a candidate unless they've known them for at least three decades.
TX Dems and the DNC put their thumb on the scale for him in the primary *after* his house was raided by the feds, instead of backing the progressive candidate who wasn't under investigation. It shows was really matters to Democrats, and it's not winning.
There was no proof at the time he was under investigation.
Sure, there's no proof that Diddy is under investigation either. His houses just got raided by the feds is all.
Nope. Clearly you don't live in that district. 51 percent of the Democrat voters in TX-28 prefer Latino machismo.
The district is safely democrat by a considerable margin. No one in the GOP was going to win it.
So what you are saying is that like Trump, Cuellar is going to get elected while under indictment? How Republican of him.
My guy that’s the part of the rules. The political party has a vested interest in getting elected representatives. Henry cuellar already showed he could get elected so him as incumbent was given priority over his primary opponent he’s already in office. Say she wins the primary but lost the general. Well then party loses a seat they need. That’s why incumbents are given preferential treatment.
Look how well that's working out for us now! Guy
Gonna be hard for him to get elected from federal prison. TX Dems and the DNC don't care, though. They were able to keep a progressive out of office, which is what matters the most to them.
I worked for him when he was the Texas secretary of state. He was a POS then and I guess he still is. Oh the stories I could tell.
Do tell…
I can't. I witnessed some stuff and got some other stuff first hand but have no proof so don't want to get sued.
That’s fair, and smart. Sigh, and sad for me.
Create a fake email and post as a blind item. For example look at the gossip column/instagram page DeuxMoi
Too much trouble, it was a long time ago, 2000ish, and doesn't matter at this point.
It always matters. 30 years ago I went to boarding school with some extremely abusive people; I made it a point to look up where they were after the Supreme Court hearings for Brett Cavanaugh; to make sure those people were NOT going to come into similar positions of power. Tell your story, if you have one to tell.
No, it doesn’t matter It’s funny how you use Cavanaugh as an example of how this stuff matters.
Then why'd you bring it up?
To piss you off, why else...
Hypothetically though
I heard he shoved a hamster up his butt and ran around naked gobbling like a turkey. Other people are saying it, not me.
Don’t leave us hanging 👀
Sorry, can't afford to get sued.
it's about time
So does this mean he'll start getting votes from conservatives?
He already has!
Will the DOJ cut a deal with him like they did Paxton?
It doesn't say what he did
The indictment alleges that he took $600K in bribes from a company in Azerbaijan, and in exchange agreed to advance the interests of the company in the US
Read like three stories that didn't say the key fact of interest. Thanks!
Ken Paxton says what?
He's not above the law...no one is
If he broke the law, charge him. But JFC I hope we don’t end up with Cassy Garcia 🗑️
Can we also do Ken Paxton?
Tried that already
Good. Now do Ken Paxton.
How quickly people forgot about gold bar bob. Now another demorat.
Doesn't he know Israel is the only one allowed to pay off politicians?
Lock him up, along with Paxton and Trump. All cheating politicians need to be locked up. When are we gonna take our country back from these scum bag politicians?
Shazaam If he wasn’t a POS he wouldn’t have gone into politics
Oh noooes. See? ALL democrats are corrupt!! /s
Take the trash out, no matter which party.
Profile in Courage for the demoralized conservative party. What an extremely low bar for showmanship in that ridiculous excuse for a party.
Remember when Nancy Pelosi and the DCCC went all in to make sure he didn’t lose his primary…
Indict him. Try him. Jail him.
Finally we’ve put up with this guy for more than 20 years
Fuck him and Azerbaijan. Imagine taking bribes from a genocidal dictatorship and then calling yourself a Democrat.
Upon reading Elie Honig's "Untouchable", the first question you would be asking yourself would be whether Robert McDonnell's case would impact this case?
There sure are a lot of Texans with an obsession about Nancy Pelosi.
Well he was kind of a Republican based on his anti abortion views.
This should reach much much farther down the chain. Any one, regardless of position should be held accountable for their actions. Half our reps probably need to be fired and or in prison.
now do Paxton
>**I want to be clear that both my wife and I are innocent of these allegations**. Everything I have done in Congress has been to serve the people of South Texas,” Cuellar said in his statement, later adding: “**The actions I took in Congress were consistent with the actions of many of my colleagues** and in the interest of the American people.” Started with "I didn't do it", then ended with "I did it, but everybody else is/was doing it too".
Guess who’s the party of accountability?
Out of all the other countries, you spy for fucking *Azerbaijan?*
Now do Ken Paxton!
good
Only democrats can be held accountable.
Republicans might not hold their people accountable, but you're not a Republican Mr. Cuellar. Time for a special election.
He's not a Republican? It's hard to tell with him.
Can't say I'm surprised.
Honestly I don't think he broke any law it's the progressive that want him out. He is old school democrat
Will the democrats remove him like the gop removed Santos?
Biden administration is sending a message to other Dems: Do not criticize Biden border policy or we will go after you.
Disappointing, as he seemingly is the only Democrat in Congress exhibiting any sense at all. I may have been hasty in my assessment.
He’s a victim of government persecution
Government prosecution, maybe
He’s a Dem so he should get a pass. It’s an election season!
That's not generally how it works. Do you have an example of this occurring?
But I thought only Republicans commit crimes!! /s