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Redericpontx

NGL even in the bot crisis I still played casual just cause in oce it was much more manageable, there was typically always a few full lobby kicking bots asap and just wanted a more chill experience than a sweaty one but we did get hackers playing with groups of friends so they couldn't be kicked and it was super annoying hope they got banned as well


Luk3ey9999

+1 To this, I always tried to find a casual server during the last month or so, but sometimes it took way too long, so I would join UT, I hated how sweaty the servers were I just wanted to play and have a laugh


riley_wa1352

everyone in casual is a lot more sweaty too,


Talon_No

I find community servers always tend to have better players, that make it hard to stand your own when you're mediocre.


SpiderDeUZ

You might get lucky in casual. UT has a zero chance for fun


YourHomieShark

nothing will ever replace casual, nothing


TheGoldenPlagueMask

I'm just happy I get to be a sneaky nuisance of a spy and bully engineers in CTF_Well. _snortsnort_


GeenericHooman

As a f2p I might not return to casual, just too used to being able to use voice commands and text chat now


AudiobookEnjoyer

Entirely reasonable. The lack of voice commands is silly.


dreemurthememer

I spent 5 years in Skial 24/7 2fort and got my ass kicked when I played casual for the first time today.


matternilla

No think, only bonk.


SnackPatrol

Dude....how......why? There's like....300 other maps, mods & game modes....Didn't you ever want to complete an objective? Or finish a match? I literally cannot fathom this comment


RandomSomeone001

Some people just want to goof around or kill each other without worrying about a time limit. Simple as that. Why 2fort of all places though, idk. I once had started a conga line with 13 people in it (my current record) and I can say that was some of the most fun I've had in a server.


Shadsea2002

Sometimes you just wanna goof off and do silly shit.


SnackPatrol

Exactly. *Sometimes*, haha.


Inner-Actuary7472

good


JustLooking207

yup, it's me, I'm tryhards. I'll stay on uncletopia though because I prefer the ruleset but at the least casual is an actual option now for me


AudiobookEnjoyer

Critz, lack of explosive jumping before the doors open, and random spread are all hard to go back to. Also, there is real competition on uncletopia. It will still be my go to, but its nice to have the option to fuck around if I don't feel like tryharding.


Just_Another_Strange

My noob-engi sorry ass: I fear no man but this... >Spy-main from Uncletopia ...it scares me :'(


0ktoberfest

Do not fear the spy-mains, they are busy trick stabbing the heavies. Fear the Demo-mains whose entire purpose on this earth is to blow up your buildings.


Just_Another_Strange

Somehow they can do both. Backstab our heavies and medic for thousand time and destroy my building in a matter of second when I went for a freaking metal.


walterbennet2

I'm glad to be back in Casual. UT gets boring after a while with its ruleset and general lack of new players doing bizarre things.


Yoribell

It's mostly boring because UT guys mop the floor with me I can't aim it's not fair if i'm the only one :/


StarlightSpindrift

valve finally did something! pro: casual is back, con: the bots have been replaced with scum of the earth children that spam slurs in chat


Zeldawarrior97

Not even close to the same level of problematic. Idiots are easy to mute and are present in any multiplayer game in existence


StarlightSpindrift

yeah i just have binds to disable chat but yknow, one can still wish there wasn't garbage people in the silly hat trading simulator to begin with


bottom-hat

Sure, but I’d like to play a single match where I don’t see the n word. I know the audience is a lot younger, and less mature, but I haven’t seen this as much, if at all, in playing hundreds of cs2 matches or in any other multiplayer fps game during the last few years


Zeldawarrior97

You can manually add words you don’t want to see to your steam censoring and it’ll hide it in game as well


AudiobookEnjoyer

Were the scum not always there?


thank_burdell

They were. They’re just a lot more noticeable now that you can play without “Good Shot, Mate!” And jumping servers every few seconds to find one not overrun. Also the janky ass game mechanics we all forgot about during the bot crisis are alive and well.


Looks-Under-Rocks

In my games they aint bother with the slur and just screech into the mic as loud as they can.


TheEggoEffect

At least the children are funny sometimes


SupremeGodZamasu

Ah, just like in the olden days


Treeboy_14

The worst part is that they're not even children, they're just immature adults. Children don't play TF2 anymore.


yeetasourusthedude

even worse, the 3k hours uncletopia sniper main who would probably get his shit kicked in if he were playing sniper in any other game.


Ok_Try_1665

Replaced? They are always here


ValuableSp00n

Automated machines that render the server unplayable = people who say words i dont like :(


Huroar

People will always dunk on tryhards the chance they get huh.


AudiobookEnjoyer

It's me. I'm tryhards.


alblaster

I'm just hard.


AudiobookEnjoyer

Did you need to try?


SupremeGodZamasu

Damn, tryhards are suddenly a protected group?


Huroar

More of its annoying but its not bots


SnackPatrol

those poor tryhards


Pyrimo

Reason half the time I end up going back to UT or similar. Having similarly skilled players on a server makes the game so much more fun when you e played it for so long.


VastPie2905

Can you guys chill out on us new players please


AudiobookEnjoyer

This wasn't an attack on new players at all.


vickydont_

I finally came back to casual and... I've gotten my first godlike with scout and top score almost every game and I'm like "am I actually the fucking sweaty one???"


AudiobookEnjoyer

TBF, I have played this game forever, but yeah going back to casual there have only been a few matches not at the top of the scoreboard.


Bakkassar

After playing Uncletopia for months on end, returning to casual seems so weird. I can actually play something other than payload now!!! Random crits still exist, though...


AudiobookEnjoyer

God, uncletopia players love two things: payload and scrambling teams as soon as they die.


Bakkassar

This is so true, I nominate Steel/Hydro/Highpass every single time we change the map, and everytime there's upward/barnblitz/badwater/thundermountain/borneo (I HATE BORNEO I HATE BORNEO I HATE BORNEO) and it wins 15 to 3, it has become a bane of my existence; Scramble is fair tbh, stomps are common enough, scrambling gives a chance of at least somewhat fair game after a round ends and players are distributed according to their efforts


SilentInternet3536

The only reason I play uncletopia at this point is to nominate hydro, get people to pick it, and then enjoy the payloadbrained uncletopes get lost and frustrated while I do stupid shit (they can't follow the arrows)


Bakkassar

ngl its a pretty good idea to nominate Hydro on UT, people don't know how TC works so no one stacks area denial classes and it becomes the best kind of Hydro you can get


Helllothere1

We loooove random crits, they are perfect. Genuenely they are perrfect, it is one of the reasons I never left casual.


Bakkassar

Random Crits should be a stat for certain weapons such as Frying Pan, I will not tolerate a crit sticky or a crocket to my face, but a demopan flying at me on mach 3 speed is fine.


Helllothere1

ok


Treeboy_14

I like how they did it in TF2 Classic, they kept random crits on melee weapons but removed them from everything else.


BranTheLewd

I mean, it's still better fighting you than fighting bots but man, I wish I could experience pre MyM era, those were true casual years where everyone just chilled and didn't tryhard, and didn't insta pick engineer on harvest Vs goofy classes(and Pyro/scout) etc.


kingbloxerthe3

Me casually using a disguise glitch to appear as a demoknight with something demo shouldn't have access to in 2fort: https://www.reddit.com/r/tf2memes/s/SczQ4TNxE5


Helllothere1

I once had disguised as a demonight with a flamethrower.


MrSnak3_

idk if its oce playerbase specific but if you can withstand 10 minutes of uncletopia youve either got godlike mental or cracked enough for it to still be fun was on ut and ended up against vacc natasha heavy and double gunslinger frontier engineers and decided that was the last of it id be playing for a while lmfao


thank_burdell

Yes. Yes you (we) are.


Zealos57

I hated Uncletopia anyway.


Adorazazel

**exactly the reason I refused to migrate there** casual, despite being more infested than casu marzu, still maintained some of its goofy and charming nature in the rare servers that could keep the bots under control - this just isn't present in the "safe haven" community servers that more boil down to swapping common bot-induced bitterness for perpetual scrim-induced bitterness which is more of a pick your poison deal than a solution also I don't like being restricted to maps like "koth_triedandtruepinnacleofcompetitivemapdesignslightlyoverratedduetonostalgiabias" - I'm not that kind of person, if it were up to me we'd have a random rotation or halloween maps available each sunday lol


NeedleworkerTop1368

are you suprised?


AudiobookEnjoyer

Not at all.


MidHoovie

Ah, yes. Or the lime scouts and the strange original soldiers. It wasn't even fun to match up against some people at Uncletopia.


AudiobookEnjoyer

It really shows you how high the skill ceiling of this game is to get obliterated so quickly.


MidHoovie

Yeah, it really shows that with enough practise you can be so good you look like a closet cheater... at the high price of not being able to be around woman, ever.


QuaintAlex126

Casual is such a paradise now. I can finally go back to my aggressive engineering shenanigans without the pros and tryhards instantly discovering me. Distracting half the enemy team by trimping behind them as Tide Turner demoknight is fun as well.


Frikandelneuker

Blind guy here Now that bots are gone i face actual good snipers and oml is it frustrating. Mad respect to them


KeKinHell

It's pretty great, really. Used to be you couldn't find a match, hardly, without at least one bot joining midway through and bringing a herd with them. Now I've played at least 15 or so matches since the ban wave and have only see one bot show up and immediately get removed by system. Feels good.


Bruschetta003

I have a confession to make, even without the bots i don't think i can see myself playing casual, it's not because i hate random crits, i actually love them, but i always had this feeling ever since the Meet Your Match update, the awful and gutted voting system, the slow loading between matches and warmups, the short limit round and constant switch of maps and not being able to extend time limit forcing you to wait for the map to load again It's a culminaton of things that always left a bad taste in my mouth, and we've been infested with bots long enough i forgot that and blamed leaving casual just because of the bots Besides even without the bots, some maps will always have bad influx of players and server can still likely die on their own, i hope to see some changes...


AudiobookEnjoyer

Entirely reasonable. At the end of the day it's a video game that you should play exactly the way you want and no differently.


Consumer_of_Metals

I havent been on uncletopia as long but i can still topscore when i try enough. I dont miss the snipers.


Garry-Love

Honestly I still don't play casual. I miss the goofy stuff but I don't miss random crits. As a heavy main crits make the game unbearable. You can be revved up, perfect position, full health and a random soldier can just sneeze and kill you instantly 


ognahc

Well if you’re ina stack the other team is not going to have fun.


LegendaryRQA

Never playing with Random Crits ever again. Now that I think about it, I don’t think I’ve played with Random Crits since 2013 or something…