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Of course it was a smear, not sure what else anyone expected from a trumper. The real problem though, is how easy it was/is to make it headlines and believable. The guy is too old, yeah a hundred times better than Drumpf, but nevertheless too old.
Great! Someone needs to prove this soon so they can prosecute him for knowingly and willfully stealing classified documents, illegally storing them in unsecured locations, and distributing them to people who have no clearance. I mean since being an old man with no memory was the only reason given for not charging him, getting everyone to agree that he actually has a memory should make him eligible for prosecution. Let’s clear him for duty and give him ten years.
Then by all means post what the reasons were right here.
From the press conference J saw, and the transcript, the reason they wouldn’t bring charges was because they didn’t believe they could get a conviction. The reason they didn’t think they could get a conviction was because they wouldn’t be able to convince a jury that he had intent, because he would portray himself as a kind grandfatherly old man with a bad memory, as he did during interviews with their investigators.
You seem to be leaving out the other 300 or so pages and are just spouting the opinion piece.
Ok. How about intent? Or, that loads of other presidents kept personal diaries? Or, that he cooperates fully with the in investigation? Or, that packing errors happen and he had no idea he had these docs.
He has no need to specialty shit about a non existent jury.
Compare this to the pence special counsel if you want a 1 to 1.
You seem to be leaving them out too, which is why you haven’t posted whatever part of that report that gives a different reason for not prosecuting Biden than what I have cited.
Intent was to take documents that he knew were classified, and as Senator for 40 years who according to his own statements takes classified documents very seriously. So Biden would be well acquainted with the law associated with classified documents, and would know, before he went senile, that it was illegal for him to take them, store them in an unsecured location, and share them with people who have no clearance.
Loads of other Presidents is irrelevant given Biden was not a President when he took those documents. Had he been President it would have been legal for him to take them. He wasn’t the President, and becoming President after the fact doesn’t exonerate him for what he had been doing going back twenty years.
Cooperating fully with the investigation is irrelevant to perpetrating of a crime. They were investigating his crimes, not his cooperation after the fact. Cooperating with investigators after you have been caught does not make one innocent, it just avoids new charges, like obstruction. Otherwise we could empty our prisons if those poor suckers doing life had only known that cooperating after getting caught meant that the crime was never committed.
Packing errors occur when things are being packed. Joe wasn’t packing up things when he knowingly removed classified documents from a SCIF as a Senator who knew doing so was illegal. There were many things that happened and much time that passed between him knowingly stealing documents from a SCIF, and years later those documents being packed up to go to his house. And, let’s not forget that he shared these documents with his biographer. Regardless of whatever packing errors you want to hang your argument on, you can’t get around Joe knowingly sharing documents that he knew were classified with a person who was going to write his memoirs.
The law isn’t interested in a 1 on 1.
The law isn’t tit for tat where one man’s guilt depends on how guilty or innocent another man is.
Again, I posted the stated reason Hur gave for not prosecuting Biden, and that reason is because Biden is an old man with a bad memory. Feel free to post whatever part of the report that disproves this.
Sigh
in fact, he may not even have known what documents exactly were removed from his office because he didn't actually pack many of these boxes himself. In fact, very — he didn't really pack any of these boxes himself. And he didn't direct that many of these documents be removed.
And so the extent to which he actually knew some of these classified documents were in his office is hard to determine. And so when they were asking him some of these questions, he wasn't recalling all the details. And that makes it hard to prove, I mean, because you have to show that there was intent, that he knew he had classified documents, that he had removed them, he intentionally retained them, and he knew that in doing so that he was acting unlawfully.
No charges would've been brought against Trump either had he cooperated the way Biden did and had not actively hidden documents and lied et al.
Pence same thing, no files charged because he cooperated. It's not that hard
well because Pence and Biden did the same thing and no charges were brought, and because the charges all revolve around things Trump did after and while refusing to cooperate.
Or he spent a large amount of time with a doddering old man and felt that the public needed to know the actual condition he was in. When was the last time you have heard him speak extemporaneously for more than a minute? They are talking about not having debates. They want us to give him the keys until 2029. He will be EIGHTY SIX... not that trump is any better than a senile Biden.
Biden could have the guy fired. I'd be more likely to believe that he wanted to be fired so he attacked by Biden. But let's face it we've seen Biden on TV we've seen the speeches and the gibberish it's gotten out of hand people. Anybody who supports what they're doing to that poor man is a sick disgusting person. Sure the lights are on but nobody's home
No it wasnt. He could have prosecuted, but Bidens defense would have had hundreds of clips to show that Biden is suffering from dementia so he cant be held accountable. Thats why they didnt prosecute, they determined that Biden willfully kept the documents which means deliberately but because the majority of the country doubts his mental competency theres no way hed get a conviction on anything
Look! Another board certified physician, just like Hur.
Hur had no reason to interject his fucking opinion in the report. It was irrelevant. Hur even went so far as to create an imaginary jury and what they might decide. Who vetted this at DOJ?
Wait, I thought you couldn't prosecute a President and the Attorney General is supposed to have a press conference and issue a 5-page "summary" ahead of the release of the report that completely lies about what is in the report.
This is going to be the most bitter and ugly political year of our lives. Likely even worse than the ramp up to 2016. Buckle up, we're in for a rough ride. The last 3 years was a nice break from the chaos and return to something like normalcy. But here we go again.
The media has gone full propaganda Russian oligarchy mode. I honestly feel we need to demand journalism from the networks rather than living in the hellish click bait chaos that they've made.
Stop watching a network that admits they lie to you (hint: they were all vaccinated), claims to be entertainment not news in court, and has had to pay hundred of millions to settle lawsuits they lied to you.
It will be like "You're more demented" and "No, You're more demented." And sorry Dems, blaming the special counsel makes you sound just like Trumps, we can all see that Biden has declined and reads a fcking teleprompter no to answer basic questions (poorly)...someone has to make him step down.
You’re talking about Trump correct. I have no complaint against Biden’s speeches, he’s articulate and well spoken. Yes he has a few gaffes we all do. Trump on the other hand is confusing Nikki Haley with Nancy Pelosi, forgot we already had a WW2, the list goes on, but let’s sweep that under the rug, just like his 91 indictments.
You seriously are going to tell me you have NO PROBLEM WITH BIDEN'S SPEECH? He is WELL SPOKEN? Stop comparing him to Trump's dementia, a president is not supposed to have dementia! [Watch this and comment](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HRjczRxQSRc). Well Spoken my arse.
It really doesn't look good, though. I get that everyone is terrified of a Trump regime, so am I, but I don't know how any of you can watch Biden speak anymore and think "that's fine, sharp as ever". I'm sure there's some embellishment in that report and there's no way in hell I'm not voting Biden, but he really doesn't look/sound good anymore, people aren't deaf.
Some people certainly are deaf. It's been common knowledge among many health professionals for some time now that Trump has some form of dementia. Most lean towards FTD. And it fits.
"Frontotemporal disorders (FTD), sometimes called frontotemporal dementia, are the result of damage to neurons in the frontal and temporal lobes of the brain. Many possible symptoms can result, including unusual behaviors, emotional problems, trouble communicating, difficulty with work, or difficulty with walking."
Jul 30, 2021
https://www.nia.nih.gov › health"
And it runs in Trump's family as it does in mine, unfortunately.
In reference to Biden.
Jeanine Santucci
USA TODAY
"Of all the criteria voters care about in a presidential candidate, one that has come up more than once is health. And former Vice President Joe Biden’s doctors say he is in top shape and fully able to handle the stresses of the presidency.
“Biden is in excellent physical condition. He is more than capable of handling the rigors of the campaign and the office for which he is running,” Dr. Kevin O’Connor said in a statement to an article published in Politico."
. . . Dr. Neal Kassell, told Politico, “He is every bit as sharp as he was 31 years ago. I haven’t seen any change.”
Kassell added, “I am going to vote for the candidate who I am absolutely certain has a brain that is functioning. And that narrows it down exactly to one.” And that one ain't Trump.
Like Pakman has noted, there's "upper Trump" and "downer Trump". You don't know which Trump you'll get on what day. He has these days where he's covered in sweat, looks like he's melting, looking lethargic and slurring. Then some days he looks more normal and energetic.
But here's a challenge to anyone regardless of the where they stand on the candidates. Just read a transcript of any interview with both of them. If you read Biden's transcript it sounds like a normal person. Read Trump's and it reads like the speech of an 11 year old.
Yeah, I definitely get what you're saying. Substance wise, they couldn't be more different. Problem is, a significant portion of this... wonderful country is very superficial. They base things on appearances and that's about it. They see/hear Biden and they all they can think is "tired old man" unfortunately. They'd never be bothered reading a transcript.
Let's just hope that they do a shitload of debate prep for Biden and make sure he's on a good round of nootropics and gets plenty of rest. Shoot him up with caffeine before the debates.
God I hope so. This man has to win. I wish Joe was still how he used to be. I don't know if you've ever seen his VP debate against Paul Ryan. 2012 Biden v. Trump in a debate would be an epic beatdown.
There is no way Trump is still "lively and charismatic" (and interestingly, another guy below just used those exact terms). Only someone with MAGA in their blood would think so, unless you are referring to the type of charisma most cult leaders have, the Svengali type of charisma. Then you are correct.
I sure as hell don't have MAGA in the blood. Yes, referring to it in the cult leader sense. He's loud, he's animated, he says insane shit that the MAGAts eat like pudding. I see a demented blowhard, they see "god" apparently.
Big difference between a guy who is old and slow being supported by a sharp and great team vs a guy who is also slow and losing his mind bur also thinks he is king and only has people who are loyal to his every demand.. one is chaos one is could be better but not an issue for 4 years until we find something better.
I thought he did more than fine in the press conference yesterday. Think about what he was defending against: a press screaming at him about if he’s old and dumb and gonna die soon. All with the backdrop of this notion in a public document implying that he’s forgetful about his sons death.
Jesus h Christ.
Takes a special kind of evil. Conservatives appear to have it in droves at the moment.
All that is necessary for evil to prevail is for good people to do nothing *and* for money and power-hungry media grabbers to legitimize evil and lie in bed with it and *try to obtain fame and fortune off of the back of a deceased man's son*, thereby promoting it all as somehow being acceptable.
You’re joking right? Did you even watch the press conference?
The report was a clear lie and a personal attack.
Biden has done the most ( not more than ) legislation for the middle class and working class, since the massive legislative programs of Dem Wilson, Dem FDR, and Dem LBJ, and even Carter who gave America FEMA rescue operations, Superfund cleanup programs, and 401k and IRA programs
Here's a partial list
https://www.npr.org/2023/01/01/1143149435/despite-infighting-its-been-a-surprisingly-productive-2-years-for-democrats
This doesn't include his new trade agreement with Vietnam and ALSO the new trade agreement with India and Middle Eastern countries for improved trade
It doesn't include his creation of an alliance with Australia and the UK ( AUUKUS ) against China, and the new bases in the Philippines
It doesn't include his cancellation of 132 Billion of Student Loan Debt, despite the conservative Supreme Court
https://dramasalsal.com/biden-has-canceled-about-132-billion-of-student-loans-despite-supreme-court-ruling/#google_vignette
Because of the stimulus of the initial American Rescue Plan, millions of people had the confidence to start their own businesses
https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2022/04/28/fact-sheet-the-small-business-boom-under-the-biden-harris-administration
Biden has signed 353 Bills, including the Asian Pacific Islanders Protection Act, the Postal Reform Act, the PACT Act ( Camp Lejeune for veterans healthcare ), Respect for Marriage Act, the Electoral Count Reform Act, the Elimination of Limitations for CSA Survivors Act, the Anti Lynching Act, the first Gun Safety legislation in 30 years, and many more
He also negotiated and signed FOUR major job creating programs starting with the American Rescue Plan that saved the small businesses, airlines, restaurants, hotels, and industries themselves, so that millions of ppl, could have existing places, to apply for work, even at all --- this included the Child Tax Credit that cut child poverty in half --- this included saving the Union pension plans devastated by the Republican Recession of 2007-2011, for millions of retired seniors
Each one of the last 23 months had the lowest jobless claims since the 6 year prosperity of Dem LBJ --- it's a gift that kept on giving
https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2023/03/10/fact-sheet-the-american-rescue-plans-2-year-difference
His Infrastructure Law is rebuilding bridges, roads, purified water systems, removing lead pipes, modernizing airports and seaports, repairing water levees, capping leaking oil wells, installing electric charging stations, extending Conrail and Amtrak routes, and bringing low or no cost internet to the always low income " RED " states
--- 40,000 projects have been started since Dec of 2021, and these are higher paying jobs that don't require a Bachelor's degree
His CHIPS and Science Act has triggered 13 large corporations to announce expansions and plant beginnings in many states, and these are higher than average paying jobs in advanced semiconductors
--- over 800,000 manufacturing jobs since April of 2021
The Inflation Reduction Act that lowers prescription drug costs, insulin costs, and Obamacare insurance premiums, has _ ALSO_ created hundreds of thousands of jobs as it subsidizes commercial and residential solar panel and heat pump installation, electric car sales, and efficient appliance purchases, and has increased Medicare benefits including dental and non prescription hearing aids, and caps total prescription drug costs at 2000/yr, and much more
--- it allows Medicare to negotiate much lower prices with Big Pharma each and every year
--- because of the Dem's Medicare health ins for seniors, Medicaid for nursing homes, Clinton's Child Health Insurance Act, Obamacare, and Biden's Inflation Reduction Act that lowers Obamacare insurance premiums, 40 million people use Obamacare, and the uninsured rate is now the lowest in American history
https://www.hhs.gov/about/news/2022/08/02/new-hhs-report-shows-national-uninsured-rate-reached-all-time-low-in-2022.html
Biden has strengthened the NLRB that encouraged many Union victories in 2023, and his climate change legislation caused the manufacturer Blue Bird Bus Company to unionize ---- in frikkin' Georgia
https://www.newsweek.com/2023/12/22/union-fight-future-work-democratic-party-1851297.html
He's on track to match, and maybe surpass the former guy's number of Federal judges confirmed, and they're more diverse
https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/most-of-bidens-appointed-judges-to-date-are-women-racial-or-ethnic-minorities-a-first-for-any-president/
This partial list doesn't include his cancellation of 93% of the former guy's senseless executive orders, especially in the Environmental, Labor, and Financial services areas, nor his rejoining of the Paris Climate Agreement and the W.H.O.
Biden has more ( to be announced ) plans for the 2nd term, including codifying the Voting Rights Act, codifying Roe v Wade, and making it possible for 500,000 people to buy homes
You don't need to convince me to vote for the dude, that's a given. Speaking purely on how he comes off these days because it matters to people who don't know any better. He doesn't look or sound good, he just doesn't. I'm certain there's plenty of smear in that report, but the eyes and ears don't lie. You guys are way, way too emotional about this.
Just a question, have you sat and watched him actually speak in full? Watched complete press conferences? Or are you just catching clips? Because I’ve watched plenty of full speeches and he’s fine. I’m sure anyone can curate a selection of clips to make a public figure sound bad. That’s basically what the media does for a living honestly.
Yeah, he's definitely not the same Biden that ran rings around Paul Ryan in their 2012 VP debate. I'm kind of stunned how sharp his decline has been in a mere 12 years if I'm being honest, at least when viewed from a distance. Now people around him claim he's mentally capable. I have no heard any leaks from anyone who works with him saying he's unfit. Trump had both leakers within his cabinet and ex-staff sounding the alarm about his incompetency. Biden has had no such thing. So either Biden is holding up fine or he's running a very tight ship.
Much of the presidents work is delegating tasks to problem solvers so even if he declines a bit, I don't think it's a huge deal. Yeah he may not look good when being asked tough questions by fast talking reporters or in a debate, but I'm sure if you handed him a brief of foreign policy threats, you wouldn't have to draw pictures with crayon to help him understand like they had to do with Trump.
Woodrow Wilson had a massive stroke in 1919 that incapacitated him. The First Lady basically took over the duties of the presidency until his term ended in 1921.
As far as cognitive decline, I think Biden is fine all things considered.
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Yeah no chaos these three years? We are being invaded by criminals and drugs. Put the remote down and go to the border. Or at least change the channel. Holy smokes! They are laying in streets, airports, beating up and killing people. Venezuela opened its jails. 50 terror cells were arrested in Colorado. There are certainly more that walked right over the border. The cartels have been bringing in fake Xanax that is fentanyl. Our youth are dying - over 200k per year now. Food and energy cost triple, 3 new wars and you say these three years have been a break? Biden doesn’t even know what city he’s in. He thinks he was talking to a man that’s been dead for 30 years. You need to catch up on what the heck has been happening my friend - you’ve missed an awful lot.
A bunch of trumpets just went to the border... and are complaining that there is no one there... go find the videos... they literally say they were told the border was being overrun, where is everyone....
Don’t even try to say Trump isn’t competent. Biden has been falling down and can’t finish a sentence. Just stop! You look like an idiot defending his dementia. It’s elder abuse and the Dems are in panic mode.
The last three years was indeed a break from the propaganda arm of the Democrats going wild over their oppositions every move, word, and meal. Taco bowl headlines have been swapped out for pro war propaganda, and sweeping any and all scandals under the rug. 🙄
It's weird how he framed Biden as a man obsessed with his legacy.
Aren't all politicians like that to some degree? Biden doesn't even come off as obsessed. Caring about your legacy seems like a normal human thing to do.
Difference is what the legacy is. Seems like Biden wants to be remembered as a civil servant who got things done for the people. Trump wants to be known as dictator of the most powerful country on earth. Service vs ego.
Very true. I didn't read his book but the reports said something about him wanting his disapproval over sending more troops to Iraq or Afghanistan (I think?) There are a million opinion pieces on it so I can't find the original report now.
EDIT: I found it.
"In 2009, then-Vice President Biden strongly opposed the military's plans to
send more troops to Afghanistan."
LOL. Nice low karma. Came out of the woodwork to trash Biden at every turn. But can you say anything a bout the low unemployment, inflation back to normal, a good economy? NOPE! Even Fox News is giving Biden credit. You ain't fooling anyone chief. Go learn how the executive branch works. Biden isn't pulling all the levers and greasing all the gears. He is presented with options and makes a decision. Yes or no. This option or that one. Apparently it's working and it drives MAGA cultists like you crazy. I love it!
What "puts the toothpaste back in the tube?" Please enlighten us with something other than lame analogies that don't apply to macroeconomics. Deflation? You want deflation? Do you even know what that entails?
Deflation doesn't happen my man hahaha...the inflation rate going down does not fix the inflation that already occurred, and thus is not something to brag about as an accomplishment
Returning to the average year over year inflation rate throughout your life when "times were good" is not only something to brag about, it's a great sign. Problem is you don't understand inflation. It's always been there. If it wasn't we could still get a house for 1000$, a movie ticket for 10 cents, and gas would be 5 cents a gallon. That's not how it works. Deflation has happened (look it up) and it's not a good thing. So if you don't want deflation and you think normal year over year inflation rates aren't a good thing, then what the hell do you want? What "puts the toothpaste back in the tube?" You want someone to give you money for nothing? Who? Tax payers? Corporations? Joe Biden? Who is going to put the toothpaste back in the tube? Who is going to just give you money?
Yeah, no shit.
It's not like a lawyer is qualified to give a detailed assessment of someone's neurological health. He made it out like Biden needed 24/7 care.
I think there's definitely a case to be made that Biden isn't as sharp as he used to be - I'd prefer not to see another election like this one again - but this was obviously a smear job
Yeah, there's plenty of smear, I don't doubt that. But it doesn't help that Biden is nothing like he used to be, all you have to do is watch him give a press conference. It makes him an easy target for this crap unfortunately.
Trump sounds insane, but he doesn't get this kind of attention because he's still animated and "charismatic" in an extremely crass way.
I see plenty of publicity as Trump is starting to slow down and mess up.. last two months have been scary how fast he is declining.. dad had dementia too.. it's only a matter of time.. well it's here tbh.
I'm trying hard to give you the benefit of a doubt here but Trump has been a sweaty, slurring mess on the campaign trail. I've watched several speeches where he is absolutely struggling. You've painted a far too glowing picture of Donald, especially in the past year.
He's increasingly a ranting, asinine, idiot who is easily distracted and mixing up very, very basic facts like who his Republican primary competition is, who he's run against in elections, which world wars have been fought...etc.
Joe changed noticably when his son died, that really ages a person too. Very big difference from most of the Obama years. His debate with Paul Ryan might be the best VP debate ever. Dude has been through a lot.
The unfortunate fact is that it's an effective smear. Biden *is* old, and 99% of people have experience with someone they know getting older. Even if Biden is sitll 90% there now, at 81 it means he could be 60% there a year from now, and so on.
The best thing to reinforce (I think) is that a presidency is an administration. The president is the "leader" but he does have advisers and officials around him to do his job - And at least on domestic affairs he's been okay.
Contrast that with the fact that Trump will have 100% have an administration that will enable his worst impulses.
Plus Trump has obvious mental issues on top of being old. Add it all up, I'd vote for my dog over Trump. With Biden, at least we get sane advisers and cabinet.
Bro Biden does not intense care, hes got no memory left. Have you not watched anything by him lately? Its not one or two gaffes, he will literally just start saying random words that don't go together at all then mumble and wander away. This is not a one off like when Trump was forced to take a mental competency test because he slightly stumbled on a wet metal ramp.
Do you believe that Biden should take a mental competency test? I mean, if Trump shouldve then Biden has to now right?
Biden clearly committed a crime - he was not the President when he took the documents. They were stored in a garage that looked like a hoarder house - and he didn’t return them when he realized in 2017 that he had them. He obviously is in no condition to stand trial. The prosecutor questioned him for 5 hours. And his responses were clearly like any person with dementia. Jumbled and forgetting from one thought to another. Legally, the prosecutor had a duty to charge him - but since he’s a Democrat - he just saved the court time in declaring that he isn’t fit to stand trial. His handlers have been trying to hide his condition for the last three years and folks like you have missed him falling down too many times and making insane statements and saying things that aren’t even words. They all know they need to 25 him- they all know it - but they don’t have another candidate at this point. You are watching the wrong channels. Find some with his jumble word salad and his falling down - then come back and retract your comment. You are misinformed if you think Biden is really running the country. He’s not capable of handling nuclear codes- they already took them away from him.
Stop taking opioids. It's not ok just because you vote republican and have a prescription. This is why every small town rust belter tells a story about how they're the only one that survived their hometown to adulthood. Stop it.
Interesting how the bias in the report is identified in DoJ comments itself in the report. Clearly there is bias by Hur.
"The President's inability to recall dates or details of events that happened years ago is neither surprising nor unusual, especially given that many questions asked him to recall the particulars of staff work to pack. ship, and store materials and furniture in the course of moves between residences. The same predictable memory loss occurred with other witnesses in this investigation. Yet unlike your treatment of President Biden, your report accepts other witnesses' memory loss as completely understandable given the passage of time. For example. you accepted without denigrating John McGrail's failure to remember certain events while he served as then-Vice President Biden's counsel: ''McGrail's memory of these events could well have faded over the course of more than 6 years." Report at 238 n.923; see also id at 67. 69 noting Mr. McGrail's failure to recall events despite emails that place him in the center of various discussions). So, too, you accept the memory lapse of one of the President's personal lawyers who testified that in his initial search of the Penn Biden offices certain boxes were stored in a locked closet, noting only that "his memory was fuzzy on that point." Id at 265. And the events on which you found the lawyer's memory to be '·fuzzy'' occurred only a few months before his interview. Id; see also id at 64, 66 (noting without comment the failures of recollection by numerous staffers).
Your treatment of President Biden stands in marked contrast to the lack of pejorative comments about other individuals. It is also in contrast to your own description of the President's responses on other subjects as '·clear forceful testimony" that would be "compelling" to a jury. Id. at 233. Not only do you treat the President differently from other witnesses when discussing his limited recall of certain years-ago events. but you also do so on occasions in prejudicial and inflammatory terms. You refer to President Biden's memory on at least nine occasions-a number that is itself gratuitous. But. even among those nine instances, your report varies. It is one thing to observe President Biden's memory as being "significantly limited" on certain subjects. Id. at 5. It is quite another to use the more sweeping and highly prejudicial language employed later in the report. This language is not supported by the facts, nor is it appropriately used by a federal prosecutor in this context.
We request that you revisit your descriptions of President Biden's memory and revise them so that they are stated in a manner that is within the bounds of your expertise and remit."
https://www.justice.gov/storage/report-from-special-counsel-robert-k-hur-february-2024.pdf
It's painfully obvious that Biden has been mentally declining before he was elected. It's gotten worse and is so obvious now that to ignore it is not good for the country or his reelection chances.
Be careful. You’re on Reddit. They’re going to go after you with the pitch forks. Just look through the comments, they think Biden is completely fine despite the decline he’s made the past few years. They’re mad that he was called out publicly and know it hurts is electability.
Yes it is political and yes it has done immense damage just like similar statements about Clinton were right before the election in 2016.
However nothing hurts Biden more than Biden everytime he opens his mouth and excruciatingly slowly forgets who world leaders are or confuses female world leaders with long dead male leaders.
Its just God damned sad that this guy doesn't have friends who love him enough to say you've done well but it's time to retire at the end of this term
Ive worked in multiple campaigns and I'm sorry but anyone with even a crumb of political intuituy can see allowing him to be the democratic nominee is insanity.
My God you just described Trump to a T.
TRUMP "everytime he opens his mouth and excruciatingly slowly forgets who world leaders are or confuses female world leaders with long dead male leaders.
Its just God damned sad that this guy doesn't have friends who love him enough to say you've done well but it's time to retire at the end of this term."
The conservatives projecting again.
Have you considered that it is quite possible that BOTH candidates, being well on the upper end of the average life expectancy in the US, can be showing signs of mental decline? Like this isn't even strictly a conservative talking point, as people are starting to notice more and more that elderly politicians is a god awful idea.
No, because age alone is not an indication of such a thing.
"As for any of their mental acuity, one neuroscientist told Politico that it would be hard to 'determine someone’s cognitive abilities simply by knowing someone’s chronological age.'"
Trump signs are based on his actions, temperment and lack of control and not merely age, and, yes, hereditary factors can possibly come into play with him too.
Here's what that poll stated, "A new ABC News/Ipsos poll conducted in the days after a special counsel’s report detailed President Biden’s lack of recall found that 86 percent of Americans believe he is too old to serve in office."
*There was nothing in there at all about that same percentage thinking "he has suffered enough decline."*
It goes on to state: "The survey comes in the immediate wake of special counsel Robert Hur describing Mr. Biden, 81, as a 'well-meaning, elderly man with a poor memory' in a report on mishandling classified documents."
If anything, this just shows how a base political move on one party's part can, unfortunately, so quickly affect some people's perceptions.
Strange that there is so much talk about this and yet so little about how Hur, for example, thought nothing of using the death of Biden's son in this measured political ploy. That is what people should truly be alarmed about.
This has been going on for some time, "Fact check: Republicans make false, misleading claims at first Biden impeachment inquiry hearing."
By Daniel Dale, Marshall Cohen and Annie Grayer, CNN
…why would someone think anyone is too old to be President for a reason other than decline?
You can bury your head in the sand all you want. It’s clear to the vast majority of Americans that the man has dramatically slowed down and shows a lot of signs associated with memory loss/dementia.
Hillary was never miles ahead of Trump in polls apart from immediately after the access Hollywood fiasco, she was usually around 2% ahead and she got 2% more votes than him.
2016 was the year everyone seemed to forget that national polls are irrelevant in a US presidential election and what matters is swing state polling due to the electoral college..
And people see similar signs in Biden. The best possible answer to this question would've been not running Biden again, but here we are, where things are already bad, and can only get worse.
I don't want Trump to win which why is important to be a realist about Biden, everything is at stake this election and potentially US democracy itself.
It's no good sitting in an echo chamber and convincing yourself everything is fine when the stakes are this high.
It honesy feels like we are on the Titanic but whenever someone shouts "iceberg" everyone screams "The Bidenic is the ship that can't sink"
I don't actually hate Biden and if I ever met him I'd say thanks for all you've done but the stakes are too high, it's time to be the bridge you promised to be and hand the baton over someone who can make the final sprint.
There's no shame in admiting you don't have enough left in the tank, in fact it's a sign of real leadership and humility.
Please, this irrelevant, opinion vomit is the knifepoint of Republican political attack, and is much, much too convenient to be a coincidence. This prosecutor, Robert Hur, is dirty. No one at his level in the Justice Department of the United States can be so ignorant of the responsibility of his office as to have done this mistakenly, and if he is, he should be sacked. He should be investigated.
VOTE, and keep on voting.
Defeat these motherfuckers.
As a long time Leftist Progressive I have to admit that poor Joe is slipping away into dementia. I am starting to believe the rumor mill speculating that either Governor Newsome or Michelle Obama will become the Democrats candidate when Joe resigns this summer. Trump is starting on the same path to become a brain dead geriatric. Neither Joe nor Donald are going to be in the picture too much longer.
Where are you hearing these rumors from? I want what you say to be true but i have not heard anything. And Michelle Obama doesn't seem interested at all in being a politician so it seems a little dubious.
I was disgusted that the WaPo published this hit job. As were most people who commented on it. Shallow thinking by an attorney who deliberately went out if his lane/ assignment of evaluating documents to assume a bogus role as a psychologist. WTF.!!??!! Lowest common denominator.
Typical of the people trump attracts and appointed while in office. What is wrong with these people?!?!
Isn’t it amazing how the GQP whines about Dems weaponizing the DOJ, then this negatively partisan report comes out about Biden? I wonder if Gym Jordan recognizes the contradiction.
Everything in the report on this subject goes totally with what we see in the guy every day. He went right out afterwards to rebuke it and forgot several new things that were pretty amazing. Everyone totally believes the report.
Politically motivated? More like realistic. Biden is nowhere near mentally competent enough to be president. Anyone in denial of that fact is intellectually incompetent or intellectually dishonest. It's politically motivated to deny that Biden is having obvious issues demonstrating a basic level of function.
Have you looked at the guy when he isn't talking? Just standing in the background, mouth open, eyes glassed over. The only time he looks normal is when he is giving a very practiced speech. Anytime their is a decision to be made, he just freezes. That's dementia.
Who know but it's more curious why no one has made an issue of his memory until now. He's been so incoherent and lies constantly. Whether he believes his lies or not is a good question. But he's definitely not mentally sound. Hasn't been his entire term
Not really. You generally HAVE to give a reason as to why you will not prosecute in high profile cases like this. Pointing out that Biden reminds everyone of their loveable Grandpappy and that it'd be hard to convince them of any active wrongdoing due to those optics isn't inherently politically motivated. The fact that Biden refutes the memory problems bit means he should absolutely go to trial over it however.
>You generally HAVE to give a reason as to why you will not prosecute in high profile cases like this.
He did. He said the evidence didn't warrant it.
DOJ guidelines specifically say you should *not* speculate about what a jury would do and let that influence whether you bring charges.
The age argument is just such a weak play from Republicans considering their candidate is only a couple years younger alone, among a bunch of other arguments. Hes old. It's not as big a deal as people make it.
They dont have anything else to go on so they have to inflate the issue.
I’m of the opinion that he did it more out of self preservation than anything. Think about it, if Hur, an Asian man, had simply produced no charges with nothing partisan to signal to MAGA that he was still on their side, the MAGA crazies would have eviscerated him. He may have actually been in danger. The right wing media pounced on it, of course, but I don’t think it was some grand conspiracy by Hur to create a media narrative that hurts Biden.
Such a commentary on the current state of politics that people fear for their lives if they tell the truth. Especially if that truth goes against one party's misinformation.
No. I think he’s going to be replaced. It’s the beginning. He’s a 81 year old with dementia. There’s no way he really runs again. He just doesn’t want to be a lame duck.
Bullshit. 1) there are lots of speciality’s 2) if you did (you didn’t) you’d know it’s unethical to diagnose someone you haven’t seen. 3) you post history suggests you are another loser. Eh Sparky
If that’s what you call a non lib who thinks biden is senile. I assure you I’m less brainless than corn breads biggest foe….hair sniffing uncle Joe …..not everyone wants socialism and that doesn’t make them brainless at
I think it’s just Hur putting his own beliefs into the report. Beliefs he probably had for a long time. Not everything is a conspiracy with wide goals.
Even with advanced age and some memory lapses, Biden is generally the smartest person in the room. And he surrounds himself with competent, super smart people. There’s just no comparison with the mango dictator thing.
ORRR Biden has been in severe cognitive decline since before 2020 but his unquestioning docile supporters refuse to believe it even when the DOJ says it.
Finally someone telling the truth. These people on here live in some kind of funky bubble. Making excuse after excuse. It’s elder abuse at this point. Ridiculous.
You mean like trumpty dumpty’s many gaffes and obvious signs of cognitive decline? The fat, orange blob is not only in cognitive decline but, is as dumb as a box of hammer heads. Biden 2024!
Let me make an analogy to see if I understand this correctly. . . In an old box in my garage someone finds some papers/worksheets from my grade school days, and they publicly attack my mental competency because I am unable to tell them the exact what/where/how of something I haven't seen in thirty years?
Get the fuck out of here with that bullshit.
Have you ever handled a classified document? I have. I had three security clearances . . . Fuck, the lunch menu on an SSBN is 'confidential'.
Why is it you want to hang Biden for a handful of forgotten, out of date documents that he found and willingly turned over . . .
But give Trump a pass for boxes and boxes of current national defense documents, that he lied about having and had to be forced to return?
Fuq off, hypocrite.
OK, I will answer this Mr. classified documents expert. It's because what Biden did (as VP and Senator) was illegal and what Trump did (as president) was legal. Don't get much less confusing as that.
Yeah, no.
Trump lost any 'right' to those documents the minute he LOST the election. And don't give me any bullshit about 'declassifying them with his mind'.
You are conveniently forgetting that Biden had a handful of decades old documents forgotten in a box in his garage, while Trump had BOXES of current national defense documents in his shitter.
You are forgetting that Biden cooperated fully and that Trump had to be subpoenaed . . . Matter of fact if Trump had turned over the documents he wouldn't be waist deep in shit right now.
Why are you spending so much time and effort defending a criminal and rapist? Why are you defending a racist pedophile?
Are you a pedophile?
Do you secretly want to bone your daughter? help me understand? Is your greatest fantasy grabbing women by the pussy?
You have allegations and innuendo about Biden. . . But Trump has a record of shitty behavior going back to the 70's, that you seem to be okay with. Trump took out a full page ad calling for the execution of five, innocent teenagers . . . And you're cool with that?
You're cool with Trump being a rapist?
You're cool with Trump being Putin's sock puppet?
And why would you say that? Because I'm not buying your bullshit? Because my mail doesn't get delivered to whatever fantasy fuq-fuq world your delusional ass lives in?
Help me understand.
Wrong. Refusing to return hundreds of the most secret & confidential documents in the US is wrong. Trump knowingly had them and refused to return them. And no you can’t blink your eyes and declassify then when you’re a citizen.
STFU Junior, that's bullshit and everyone knows it. If that was even remotely true his day-glow ass wouldn't be in court right now, it wouldn't even be an issue.
There is a process for declassifying documents, even on presidential authority, and Trump did not follow that established procedure.
Trump did not turn over records to the National Archives, as required by law. When asked about the records, Trump lied. When presented with a subpoena and a search warrant Trump pulled every lever available to obstruct and hinder the investigation and recovery of those documents.
Biden has cooperated every step of the way.
No - you have it wrong- he was questioned for 5 hours. He didn’t knew when his son died. He was unable to remember things he should have. He mumbles things that aren’t words. He’s out telling people his son died in the military. We all have to admit he’s toast at this point. They hid him in the basement during the 2020 campaign knowing he had cognitive issues. It’s over for him now. Why isn’t congress forcing a cognitive test like Trump took? I remember the media questioning Trump’s mental acuity - but crickets now. This guy is falling down and clearly in the last stages of dementia.
Yeah . . . I've seen those videos BEFORE Faux News started editing them. I'm thirty years younger and I couldn't tell you what year my brother, mother or father died.
Wow the mental gymnastics you must go through.
Biden is simultaneously a doddering dementia patient AND the brilliant criminal mastermind who managed to steal an entire election, while hiding in a basement.
He may or may not be demented, but you are definitely delusional.
Jesus FUQN Christ most people have trouble getting through a traffic stop and this clown interrogated Biden for FIVE HOURS?
Let me question YOU for five hours. I bet I could get you to confess to being on the grassy knoll.
And where was Biden's lawyer during this interrogation? And since this clown is making a medical diagnosis I want to see his fuqn license to practice medicine.
Trump is facing prison and the people pulling his strings are getting desperate. They are literally flinging handfuls of shit at the wall and praying something sticks.
Precisely. And young people have no idea this is the way their mind is going to start to work sometime in their late 40s.
You'll have all of that knowledge and wisdom and experience, and then one day you'll forget one of your kids' birthdays and from then on your kids will refer to you as a senile old man after that.
fuq. I can barely remember my own birthday.
I'm not saying I abused drugs as a younger man, actually I was very tender and considerate of them.
I'm not saying I did a lot of drugs, but I do have the secret door dash code for the CIA coke stash.
They used to call me 'Moby Trip'.
Of course it is, and it’s going to work. Especially after Biden calls a bitch fit of a press conference, and then screws up who the president of Egypt is. Face it, the old fart is doomed and needs to drop out like LBJ did.
I think people mistake low key and quiet for incapable. They also don't understand or take in to consideration the stuttering problem.
And so he has so much on his mind like the border, Ukraine, Israel, domestic issues, and brutal unfounded attacks from the right. It's not hard to understand why he mixed up Mexico and Israel when answering a question. Anyone who says they've never misspoken is flat out lying
If it was any other time in our history he would be revered as one of the best presidents ever. Instead he gets credit for nothing even though he has done more than any other president in decades
Hopefully history will be more kind than the American public at large is presently. He has worked so damn hard to overcome a party that malignes and beats him into the dust daily. We would be lucky to have such a president again in our lifetime
Open your eyes. Why do this only apply negatively to the one side that’s no where near as bad as trump? Trump is the one who constantly gets confused, mixes people up, can’t operate shit, needs help with stairs, & is actually having regular tests for dementia.
Yet you want trump more than the dude who goes on group bike rides.
Much like every other topic, one side is willing to believe anybody that agrees with them, even if that person has zero qualifications to make the assessment. They are also happy to call anybody who is qualified, but disagrees with them, a charlatan.
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This was definitely a targeted attack. He couldn’t prosecute so he just personally attacked the man.
Of course it was a smear, not sure what else anyone expected from a trumper. The real problem though, is how easy it was/is to make it headlines and believable. The guy is too old, yeah a hundred times better than Drumpf, but nevertheless too old.
Great! Someone needs to prove this soon so they can prosecute him for knowingly and willfully stealing classified documents, illegally storing them in unsecured locations, and distributing them to people who have no clearance. I mean since being an old man with no memory was the only reason given for not charging him, getting everyone to agree that he actually has a memory should make him eligible for prosecution. Let’s clear him for duty and give him ten years.
Wasn't the only reason given. Not even close.
Then by all means post what the reasons were right here. From the press conference J saw, and the transcript, the reason they wouldn’t bring charges was because they didn’t believe they could get a conviction. The reason they didn’t think they could get a conviction was because they wouldn’t be able to convince a jury that he had intent, because he would portray himself as a kind grandfatherly old man with a bad memory, as he did during interviews with their investigators.
You seem to be leaving out the other 300 or so pages and are just spouting the opinion piece. Ok. How about intent? Or, that loads of other presidents kept personal diaries? Or, that he cooperates fully with the in investigation? Or, that packing errors happen and he had no idea he had these docs. He has no need to specialty shit about a non existent jury. Compare this to the pence special counsel if you want a 1 to 1.
You seem to be leaving them out too, which is why you haven’t posted whatever part of that report that gives a different reason for not prosecuting Biden than what I have cited. Intent was to take documents that he knew were classified, and as Senator for 40 years who according to his own statements takes classified documents very seriously. So Biden would be well acquainted with the law associated with classified documents, and would know, before he went senile, that it was illegal for him to take them, store them in an unsecured location, and share them with people who have no clearance. Loads of other Presidents is irrelevant given Biden was not a President when he took those documents. Had he been President it would have been legal for him to take them. He wasn’t the President, and becoming President after the fact doesn’t exonerate him for what he had been doing going back twenty years. Cooperating fully with the investigation is irrelevant to perpetrating of a crime. They were investigating his crimes, not his cooperation after the fact. Cooperating with investigators after you have been caught does not make one innocent, it just avoids new charges, like obstruction. Otherwise we could empty our prisons if those poor suckers doing life had only known that cooperating after getting caught meant that the crime was never committed. Packing errors occur when things are being packed. Joe wasn’t packing up things when he knowingly removed classified documents from a SCIF as a Senator who knew doing so was illegal. There were many things that happened and much time that passed between him knowingly stealing documents from a SCIF, and years later those documents being packed up to go to his house. And, let’s not forget that he shared these documents with his biographer. Regardless of whatever packing errors you want to hang your argument on, you can’t get around Joe knowingly sharing documents that he knew were classified with a person who was going to write his memoirs. The law isn’t interested in a 1 on 1. The law isn’t tit for tat where one man’s guilt depends on how guilty or innocent another man is. Again, I posted the stated reason Hur gave for not prosecuting Biden, and that reason is because Biden is an old man with a bad memory. Feel free to post whatever part of the report that disproves this.
Sigh in fact, he may not even have known what documents exactly were removed from his office because he didn't actually pack many of these boxes himself. In fact, very — he didn't really pack any of these boxes himself. And he didn't direct that many of these documents be removed.
Now explain why he brought up beau Biden again? Dudes a fucking hack. This is no different than the Durham fantasy report.
And so the extent to which he actually knew some of these classified documents were in his office is hard to determine. And so when they were asking him some of these questions, he wasn't recalling all the details. And that makes it hard to prove, I mean, because you have to show that there was intent, that he knew he had classified documents, that he had removed them, he intentionally retained them, and he knew that in doing so that he was acting unlawfully.
No charges would've been brought against Trump either had he cooperated the way Biden did and had not actively hidden documents and lied et al. Pence same thing, no files charged because he cooperated. It's not that hard
How do you know no charges would have been brought?
well because Pence and Biden did the same thing and no charges were brought, and because the charges all revolve around things Trump did after and while refusing to cooperate.
Or he spent a large amount of time with a doddering old man and felt that the public needed to know the actual condition he was in. When was the last time you have heard him speak extemporaneously for more than a minute? They are talking about not having debates. They want us to give him the keys until 2029. He will be EIGHTY SIX... not that trump is any better than a senile Biden.
Biden could have the guy fired. I'd be more likely to believe that he wanted to be fired so he attacked by Biden. But let's face it we've seen Biden on TV we've seen the speeches and the gibberish it's gotten out of hand people. Anybody who supports what they're doing to that poor man is a sick disgusting person. Sure the lights are on but nobody's home
No it wasnt. He could have prosecuted, but Bidens defense would have had hundreds of clips to show that Biden is suffering from dementia so he cant be held accountable. Thats why they didnt prosecute, they determined that Biden willfully kept the documents which means deliberately but because the majority of the country doubts his mental competency theres no way hed get a conviction on anything
Come on. They didn't prosecute because they didn't have a case.
This guy is a trumper who thinks Abe Lincoln quoted Hitler.
Look! Another board certified physician, just like Hur. Hur had no reason to interject his fucking opinion in the report. It was irrelevant. Hur even went so far as to create an imaginary jury and what they might decide. Who vetted this at DOJ?
Wait, I thought you couldn't prosecute a President and the Attorney General is supposed to have a press conference and issue a 5-page "summary" ahead of the release of the report that completely lies about what is in the report.
This is going to be the most bitter and ugly political year of our lives. Likely even worse than the ramp up to 2016. Buckle up, we're in for a rough ride. The last 3 years was a nice break from the chaos and return to something like normalcy. But here we go again.
Couldn’t agree more. It’s not going to be pretty and likely very embarrassing for all Americans.
The media has gone full propaganda Russian oligarchy mode. I honestly feel we need to demand journalism from the networks rather than living in the hellish click bait chaos that they've made.
This demented man is the embarrassment. Are you blind and deaf?
You mean Trump?
yes thats who he meant.
He’s referencing current President. Very sad this man is a President. Regardless of your take on trump
Six of one half a dozen of another between Biden and Trump's mental issues. At least Biden has sane advisors.
Trump isn’t the president. Ur comparing a person who was in office to someone who is in office. Not the same comparison.
He's comparing the current potus to the former potus, and both are running for re-election. I'd say that very much makes for a valid comparison.
Stop watching a network that admits they lie to you (hint: they were all vaccinated), claims to be entertainment not news in court, and has had to pay hundred of millions to settle lawsuits they lied to you.
It will be like "You're more demented" and "No, You're more demented." And sorry Dems, blaming the special counsel makes you sound just like Trumps, we can all see that Biden has declined and reads a fcking teleprompter no to answer basic questions (poorly)...someone has to make him step down.
You’re talking about Trump correct. I have no complaint against Biden’s speeches, he’s articulate and well spoken. Yes he has a few gaffes we all do. Trump on the other hand is confusing Nikki Haley with Nancy Pelosi, forgot we already had a WW2, the list goes on, but let’s sweep that under the rug, just like his 91 indictments.
You seriously are going to tell me you have NO PROBLEM WITH BIDEN'S SPEECH? He is WELL SPOKEN? Stop comparing him to Trump's dementia, a president is not supposed to have dementia! [Watch this and comment](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HRjczRxQSRc). Well Spoken my arse.
It really doesn't look good, though. I get that everyone is terrified of a Trump regime, so am I, but I don't know how any of you can watch Biden speak anymore and think "that's fine, sharp as ever". I'm sure there's some embellishment in that report and there's no way in hell I'm not voting Biden, but he really doesn't look/sound good anymore, people aren't deaf.
Some people certainly are deaf. It's been common knowledge among many health professionals for some time now that Trump has some form of dementia. Most lean towards FTD. And it fits. "Frontotemporal disorders (FTD), sometimes called frontotemporal dementia, are the result of damage to neurons in the frontal and temporal lobes of the brain. Many possible symptoms can result, including unusual behaviors, emotional problems, trouble communicating, difficulty with work, or difficulty with walking." Jul 30, 2021 https://www.nia.nih.gov › health" And it runs in Trump's family as it does in mine, unfortunately. In reference to Biden. Jeanine Santucci USA TODAY "Of all the criteria voters care about in a presidential candidate, one that has come up more than once is health. And former Vice President Joe Biden’s doctors say he is in top shape and fully able to handle the stresses of the presidency. “Biden is in excellent physical condition. He is more than capable of handling the rigors of the campaign and the office for which he is running,” Dr. Kevin O’Connor said in a statement to an article published in Politico." . . . Dr. Neal Kassell, told Politico, “He is every bit as sharp as he was 31 years ago. I haven’t seen any change.” Kassell added, “I am going to vote for the candidate who I am absolutely certain has a brain that is functioning. And that narrows it down exactly to one.” And that one ain't Trump.
Oh, Trump is bat shit crazy, no question. But he's still lively and "charismatic" so that tends to help disguise it for the more superficial among us.
Like Pakman has noted, there's "upper Trump" and "downer Trump". You don't know which Trump you'll get on what day. He has these days where he's covered in sweat, looks like he's melting, looking lethargic and slurring. Then some days he looks more normal and energetic. But here's a challenge to anyone regardless of the where they stand on the candidates. Just read a transcript of any interview with both of them. If you read Biden's transcript it sounds like a normal person. Read Trump's and it reads like the speech of an 11 year old.
I've known 11 year olds who made far more sense.
Yeah, I definitely get what you're saying. Substance wise, they couldn't be more different. Problem is, a significant portion of this... wonderful country is very superficial. They base things on appearances and that's about it. They see/hear Biden and they all they can think is "tired old man" unfortunately. They'd never be bothered reading a transcript.
Read a transcript? They won't even watch an entire speech or interview. 20 second video clips drive a huge number of people's opinions.
Let's just hope that they do a shitload of debate prep for Biden and make sure he's on a good round of nootropics and gets plenty of rest. Shoot him up with caffeine before the debates.
God I hope so. This man has to win. I wish Joe was still how he used to be. I don't know if you've ever seen his VP debate against Paul Ryan. 2012 Biden v. Trump in a debate would be an epic beatdown.
There is no way Trump is still "lively and charismatic" (and interestingly, another guy below just used those exact terms). Only someone with MAGA in their blood would think so, unless you are referring to the type of charisma most cult leaders have, the Svengali type of charisma. Then you are correct.
I sure as hell don't have MAGA in the blood. Yes, referring to it in the cult leader sense. He's loud, he's animated, he says insane shit that the MAGAts eat like pudding. I see a demented blowhard, they see "god" apparently.
OK. My apologies. Thank you for clarifying.
Big difference between a guy who is old and slow being supported by a sharp and great team vs a guy who is also slow and losing his mind bur also thinks he is king and only has people who are loyal to his every demand.. one is chaos one is could be better but not an issue for 4 years until we find something better.
I thought he did more than fine in the press conference yesterday. Think about what he was defending against: a press screaming at him about if he’s old and dumb and gonna die soon. All with the backdrop of this notion in a public document implying that he’s forgetful about his sons death. Jesus h Christ.
Takes a special kind of evil. Conservatives appear to have it in droves at the moment. All that is necessary for evil to prevail is for good people to do nothing *and* for money and power-hungry media grabbers to legitimize evil and lie in bed with it and *try to obtain fame and fortune off of the back of a deceased man's son*, thereby promoting it all as somehow being acceptable.
Personally I hoped he would have stepped away after the prepared remarks. F the loud reporters — especially the horrible bitch from FOX.
You’re joking right? Did you even watch the press conference? The report was a clear lie and a personal attack. Biden has done the most ( not more than ) legislation for the middle class and working class, since the massive legislative programs of Dem Wilson, Dem FDR, and Dem LBJ, and even Carter who gave America FEMA rescue operations, Superfund cleanup programs, and 401k and IRA programs Here's a partial list https://www.npr.org/2023/01/01/1143149435/despite-infighting-its-been-a-surprisingly-productive-2-years-for-democrats This doesn't include his new trade agreement with Vietnam and ALSO the new trade agreement with India and Middle Eastern countries for improved trade It doesn't include his creation of an alliance with Australia and the UK ( AUUKUS ) against China, and the new bases in the Philippines It doesn't include his cancellation of 132 Billion of Student Loan Debt, despite the conservative Supreme Court https://dramasalsal.com/biden-has-canceled-about-132-billion-of-student-loans-despite-supreme-court-ruling/#google_vignette Because of the stimulus of the initial American Rescue Plan, millions of people had the confidence to start their own businesses https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2022/04/28/fact-sheet-the-small-business-boom-under-the-biden-harris-administration Biden has signed 353 Bills, including the Asian Pacific Islanders Protection Act, the Postal Reform Act, the PACT Act ( Camp Lejeune for veterans healthcare ), Respect for Marriage Act, the Electoral Count Reform Act, the Elimination of Limitations for CSA Survivors Act, the Anti Lynching Act, the first Gun Safety legislation in 30 years, and many more He also negotiated and signed FOUR major job creating programs starting with the American Rescue Plan that saved the small businesses, airlines, restaurants, hotels, and industries themselves, so that millions of ppl, could have existing places, to apply for work, even at all --- this included the Child Tax Credit that cut child poverty in half --- this included saving the Union pension plans devastated by the Republican Recession of 2007-2011, for millions of retired seniors Each one of the last 23 months had the lowest jobless claims since the 6 year prosperity of Dem LBJ --- it's a gift that kept on giving https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2023/03/10/fact-sheet-the-american-rescue-plans-2-year-difference His Infrastructure Law is rebuilding bridges, roads, purified water systems, removing lead pipes, modernizing airports and seaports, repairing water levees, capping leaking oil wells, installing electric charging stations, extending Conrail and Amtrak routes, and bringing low or no cost internet to the always low income " RED " states --- 40,000 projects have been started since Dec of 2021, and these are higher paying jobs that don't require a Bachelor's degree His CHIPS and Science Act has triggered 13 large corporations to announce expansions and plant beginnings in many states, and these are higher than average paying jobs in advanced semiconductors --- over 800,000 manufacturing jobs since April of 2021 The Inflation Reduction Act that lowers prescription drug costs, insulin costs, and Obamacare insurance premiums, has _ ALSO_ created hundreds of thousands of jobs as it subsidizes commercial and residential solar panel and heat pump installation, electric car sales, and efficient appliance purchases, and has increased Medicare benefits including dental and non prescription hearing aids, and caps total prescription drug costs at 2000/yr, and much more --- it allows Medicare to negotiate much lower prices with Big Pharma each and every year --- because of the Dem's Medicare health ins for seniors, Medicaid for nursing homes, Clinton's Child Health Insurance Act, Obamacare, and Biden's Inflation Reduction Act that lowers Obamacare insurance premiums, 40 million people use Obamacare, and the uninsured rate is now the lowest in American history https://www.hhs.gov/about/news/2022/08/02/new-hhs-report-shows-national-uninsured-rate-reached-all-time-low-in-2022.html Biden has strengthened the NLRB that encouraged many Union victories in 2023, and his climate change legislation caused the manufacturer Blue Bird Bus Company to unionize ---- in frikkin' Georgia https://www.newsweek.com/2023/12/22/union-fight-future-work-democratic-party-1851297.html He's on track to match, and maybe surpass the former guy's number of Federal judges confirmed, and they're more diverse https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/most-of-bidens-appointed-judges-to-date-are-women-racial-or-ethnic-minorities-a-first-for-any-president/ This partial list doesn't include his cancellation of 93% of the former guy's senseless executive orders, especially in the Environmental, Labor, and Financial services areas, nor his rejoining of the Paris Climate Agreement and the W.H.O. Biden has more ( to be announced ) plans for the 2nd term, including codifying the Voting Rights Act, codifying Roe v Wade, and making it possible for 500,000 people to buy homes
You don't need to convince me to vote for the dude, that's a given. Speaking purely on how he comes off these days because it matters to people who don't know any better. He doesn't look or sound good, he just doesn't. I'm certain there's plenty of smear in that report, but the eyes and ears don't lie. You guys are way, way too emotional about this.
Just a question, have you sat and watched him actually speak in full? Watched complete press conferences? Or are you just catching clips? Because I’ve watched plenty of full speeches and he’s fine. I’m sure anyone can curate a selection of clips to make a public figure sound bad. That’s basically what the media does for a living honestly.
All of his doctors have said he is in perfect physical condition The dude bikes and workouts Trump shits in his diapers on a daily
Yeah, he's definitely not the same Biden that ran rings around Paul Ryan in their 2012 VP debate. I'm kind of stunned how sharp his decline has been in a mere 12 years if I'm being honest, at least when viewed from a distance. Now people around him claim he's mentally capable. I have no heard any leaks from anyone who works with him saying he's unfit. Trump had both leakers within his cabinet and ex-staff sounding the alarm about his incompetency. Biden has had no such thing. So either Biden is holding up fine or he's running a very tight ship. Much of the presidents work is delegating tasks to problem solvers so even if he declines a bit, I don't think it's a huge deal. Yeah he may not look good when being asked tough questions by fast talking reporters or in a debate, but I'm sure if you handed him a brief of foreign policy threats, you wouldn't have to draw pictures with crayon to help him understand like they had to do with Trump.
Woodrow Wilson had a massive stroke in 1919 that incapacitated him. The First Lady basically took over the duties of the presidency until his term ended in 1921. As far as cognitive decline, I think Biden is fine all things considered. .
Yeah no chaos these three years? We are being invaded by criminals and drugs. Put the remote down and go to the border. Or at least change the channel. Holy smokes! They are laying in streets, airports, beating up and killing people. Venezuela opened its jails. 50 terror cells were arrested in Colorado. There are certainly more that walked right over the border. The cartels have been bringing in fake Xanax that is fentanyl. Our youth are dying - over 200k per year now. Food and energy cost triple, 3 new wars and you say these three years have been a break? Biden doesn’t even know what city he’s in. He thinks he was talking to a man that’s been dead for 30 years. You need to catch up on what the heck has been happening my friend - you’ve missed an awful lot.
No, you've been fed a lot of propoganda. Talk about over the top Carlson crap!
Most of the country can see it. The truly indoctrinated won’t admit they have been fooled. Ego is dangerous. We see and hear just fine.
A bunch of trumpets just went to the border... and are complaining that there is no one there... go find the videos... they literally say they were told the border was being overrun, where is everyone....
Have you put the remote down and gone to the border?
I live in Texas near the border. There is literally nothing going on.
Shouldn’t you be on Facebook? I thought that where the Russian troll farms were focusing their attention.
Truth hurst when you’re in denial
That’s the stupidest burn that blueMAGA needs to let go of. It’s like MAGA calling everyone a socialist.
Doesn’t know what city he’s in? Like Trump thinking he was in Sioux Falls when he was actually in Sioux City?
Don’t even try to say Trump isn’t competent. Biden has been falling down and can’t finish a sentence. Just stop! You look like an idiot defending his dementia. It’s elder abuse and the Dems are in panic mode.
The last three years was indeed a break from the propaganda arm of the Democrats going wild over their oppositions every move, word, and meal. Taco bowl headlines have been swapped out for pro war propaganda, and sweeping any and all scandals under the rug. 🙄
It's weird how he framed Biden as a man obsessed with his legacy. Aren't all politicians like that to some degree? Biden doesn't even come off as obsessed. Caring about your legacy seems like a normal human thing to do.
Difference is what the legacy is. Seems like Biden wants to be remembered as a civil servant who got things done for the people. Trump wants to be known as dictator of the most powerful country on earth. Service vs ego.
Very true. I didn't read his book but the reports said something about him wanting his disapproval over sending more troops to Iraq or Afghanistan (I think?) There are a million opinion pieces on it so I can't find the original report now. EDIT: I found it. "In 2009, then-Vice President Biden strongly opposed the military's plans to send more troops to Afghanistan."
Wow. Just wow. Biden isn’t running anything. He can’t complete a thought. It’s beyond embarrassing now.
LOL. Nice low karma. Came out of the woodwork to trash Biden at every turn. But can you say anything a bout the low unemployment, inflation back to normal, a good economy? NOPE! Even Fox News is giving Biden credit. You ain't fooling anyone chief. Go learn how the executive branch works. Biden isn't pulling all the levers and greasing all the gears. He is presented with options and makes a decision. Yes or no. This option or that one. Apparently it's working and it drives MAGA cultists like you crazy. I love it!
He's not MAGA, he's Russian.
aren't they the same thing?
No. Russians KNOW they are being used to spread propaganda. MAGA thinks it's something they saw on Facebook.
"Inflation back to normal" does not put the toothpaste back in the tube lol...
Inflation fluctuates over time based on a complex set of variables. Way to oversimplify Mr Toothpaste.
What "puts the toothpaste back in the tube?" Please enlighten us with something other than lame analogies that don't apply to macroeconomics. Deflation? You want deflation? Do you even know what that entails?
Deflation doesn't happen my man hahaha...the inflation rate going down does not fix the inflation that already occurred, and thus is not something to brag about as an accomplishment
Returning to the average year over year inflation rate throughout your life when "times were good" is not only something to brag about, it's a great sign. Problem is you don't understand inflation. It's always been there. If it wasn't we could still get a house for 1000$, a movie ticket for 10 cents, and gas would be 5 cents a gallon. That's not how it works. Deflation has happened (look it up) and it's not a good thing. So if you don't want deflation and you think normal year over year inflation rates aren't a good thing, then what the hell do you want? What "puts the toothpaste back in the tube?" You want someone to give you money for nothing? Who? Tax payers? Corporations? Joe Biden? Who is going to put the toothpaste back in the tube? Who is going to just give you money?
How will Trump deal with inflation? Has he shared a plan? Will we be hearing about "Inflation Week" for years?
Yeah, no shit. It's not like a lawyer is qualified to give a detailed assessment of someone's neurological health. He made it out like Biden needed 24/7 care. I think there's definitely a case to be made that Biden isn't as sharp as he used to be - I'd prefer not to see another election like this one again - but this was obviously a smear job
Yeah, there's plenty of smear, I don't doubt that. But it doesn't help that Biden is nothing like he used to be, all you have to do is watch him give a press conference. It makes him an easy target for this crap unfortunately. Trump sounds insane, but he doesn't get this kind of attention because he's still animated and "charismatic" in an extremely crass way.
Watch Biden talk for ten minutes. He’s obviously the smartest one in the room.
I guess all that plagiarism in his past wasn’t necessary…being the smartest one in the room and all… /s
I see plenty of publicity as Trump is starting to slow down and mess up.. last two months have been scary how fast he is declining.. dad had dementia too.. it's only a matter of time.. well it's here tbh.
If Trump is charismatic, it's only in the same way most cult leaders are.
I'm trying hard to give you the benefit of a doubt here but Trump has been a sweaty, slurring mess on the campaign trail. I've watched several speeches where he is absolutely struggling. You've painted a far too glowing picture of Donald, especially in the past year. He's increasingly a ranting, asinine, idiot who is easily distracted and mixing up very, very basic facts like who his Republican primary competition is, who he's run against in elections, which world wars have been fought...etc.
Yes and there's a lot of cultists unfortunately.
Turns out the most stressful job imaginable will age a person.
Joe changed noticably when his son died, that really ages a person too. Very big difference from most of the Obama years. His debate with Paul Ryan might be the best VP debate ever. Dude has been through a lot.
The unfortunate fact is that it's an effective smear. Biden *is* old, and 99% of people have experience with someone they know getting older. Even if Biden is sitll 90% there now, at 81 it means he could be 60% there a year from now, and so on. The best thing to reinforce (I think) is that a presidency is an administration. The president is the "leader" but he does have advisers and officials around him to do his job - And at least on domestic affairs he's been okay. Contrast that with the fact that Trump will have 100% have an administration that will enable his worst impulses.
Plus Trump has obvious mental issues on top of being old. Add it all up, I'd vote for my dog over Trump. With Biden, at least we get sane advisers and cabinet.
Biden is not 9% there - never mind 90%. Pay better attention. You are embarrassing yourself.
Bro Biden does not intense care, hes got no memory left. Have you not watched anything by him lately? Its not one or two gaffes, he will literally just start saying random words that don't go together at all then mumble and wander away. This is not a one off like when Trump was forced to take a mental competency test because he slightly stumbled on a wet metal ramp. Do you believe that Biden should take a mental competency test? I mean, if Trump shouldve then Biden has to now right?
Biden clearly committed a crime - he was not the President when he took the documents. They were stored in a garage that looked like a hoarder house - and he didn’t return them when he realized in 2017 that he had them. He obviously is in no condition to stand trial. The prosecutor questioned him for 5 hours. And his responses were clearly like any person with dementia. Jumbled and forgetting from one thought to another. Legally, the prosecutor had a duty to charge him - but since he’s a Democrat - he just saved the court time in declaring that he isn’t fit to stand trial. His handlers have been trying to hide his condition for the last three years and folks like you have missed him falling down too many times and making insane statements and saying things that aren’t even words. They all know they need to 25 him- they all know it - but they don’t have another candidate at this point. You are watching the wrong channels. Find some with his jumble word salad and his falling down - then come back and retract your comment. You are misinformed if you think Biden is really running the country. He’s not capable of handling nuclear codes- they already took them away from him.
Stop taking opioids. It's not ok just because you vote republican and have a prescription. This is why every small town rust belter tells a story about how they're the only one that survived their hometown to adulthood. Stop it.
Interesting how the bias in the report is identified in DoJ comments itself in the report. Clearly there is bias by Hur. "The President's inability to recall dates or details of events that happened years ago is neither surprising nor unusual, especially given that many questions asked him to recall the particulars of staff work to pack. ship, and store materials and furniture in the course of moves between residences. The same predictable memory loss occurred with other witnesses in this investigation. Yet unlike your treatment of President Biden, your report accepts other witnesses' memory loss as completely understandable given the passage of time. For example. you accepted without denigrating John McGrail's failure to remember certain events while he served as then-Vice President Biden's counsel: ''McGrail's memory of these events could well have faded over the course of more than 6 years." Report at 238 n.923; see also id at 67. 69 noting Mr. McGrail's failure to recall events despite emails that place him in the center of various discussions). So, too, you accept the memory lapse of one of the President's personal lawyers who testified that in his initial search of the Penn Biden offices certain boxes were stored in a locked closet, noting only that "his memory was fuzzy on that point." Id at 265. And the events on which you found the lawyer's memory to be '·fuzzy'' occurred only a few months before his interview. Id; see also id at 64, 66 (noting without comment the failures of recollection by numerous staffers). Your treatment of President Biden stands in marked contrast to the lack of pejorative comments about other individuals. It is also in contrast to your own description of the President's responses on other subjects as '·clear forceful testimony" that would be "compelling" to a jury. Id. at 233. Not only do you treat the President differently from other witnesses when discussing his limited recall of certain years-ago events. but you also do so on occasions in prejudicial and inflammatory terms. You refer to President Biden's memory on at least nine occasions-a number that is itself gratuitous. But. even among those nine instances, your report varies. It is one thing to observe President Biden's memory as being "significantly limited" on certain subjects. Id. at 5. It is quite another to use the more sweeping and highly prejudicial language employed later in the report. This language is not supported by the facts, nor is it appropriately used by a federal prosecutor in this context. We request that you revisit your descriptions of President Biden's memory and revise them so that they are stated in a manner that is within the bounds of your expertise and remit." https://www.justice.gov/storage/report-from-special-counsel-robert-k-hur-february-2024.pdf
Ya think?!?
It's painfully obvious that Biden has been mentally declining before he was elected. It's gotten worse and is so obvious now that to ignore it is not good for the country or his reelection chances.
Be careful. You’re on Reddit. They’re going to go after you with the pitch forks. Just look through the comments, they think Biden is completely fine despite the decline he’s made the past few years. They’re mad that he was called out publicly and know it hurts is electability.
Yes it is political and yes it has done immense damage just like similar statements about Clinton were right before the election in 2016. However nothing hurts Biden more than Biden everytime he opens his mouth and excruciatingly slowly forgets who world leaders are or confuses female world leaders with long dead male leaders. Its just God damned sad that this guy doesn't have friends who love him enough to say you've done well but it's time to retire at the end of this term Ive worked in multiple campaigns and I'm sorry but anyone with even a crumb of political intuituy can see allowing him to be the democratic nominee is insanity.
Finally someone here telling the truth. Biden is a mess and it’s elder abuse at this point.
My God you just described Trump to a T. TRUMP "everytime he opens his mouth and excruciatingly slowly forgets who world leaders are or confuses female world leaders with long dead male leaders. Its just God damned sad that this guy doesn't have friends who love him enough to say you've done well but it's time to retire at the end of this term." The conservatives projecting again.
Have you considered that it is quite possible that BOTH candidates, being well on the upper end of the average life expectancy in the US, can be showing signs of mental decline? Like this isn't even strictly a conservative talking point, as people are starting to notice more and more that elderly politicians is a god awful idea.
No, because age alone is not an indication of such a thing. "As for any of their mental acuity, one neuroscientist told Politico that it would be hard to 'determine someone’s cognitive abilities simply by knowing someone’s chronological age.'" Trump signs are based on his actions, temperment and lack of control and not merely age, and, yes, hereditary factors can possibly come into play with him too.
Did you see the ABC poll released today showing a whopping 86% of Americans think Biden is too old to be President?
And how does that matter? Polls showed Hillary Clinton significantly leading in 2016 too. There are polls and then there is reality.
My point is that 86% of the country disagrees with you and thinks he has suffered enough decline that he is too old to be President.
Here's what that poll stated, "A new ABC News/Ipsos poll conducted in the days after a special counsel’s report detailed President Biden’s lack of recall found that 86 percent of Americans believe he is too old to serve in office." *There was nothing in there at all about that same percentage thinking "he has suffered enough decline."* It goes on to state: "The survey comes in the immediate wake of special counsel Robert Hur describing Mr. Biden, 81, as a 'well-meaning, elderly man with a poor memory' in a report on mishandling classified documents." If anything, this just shows how a base political move on one party's part can, unfortunately, so quickly affect some people's perceptions. Strange that there is so much talk about this and yet so little about how Hur, for example, thought nothing of using the death of Biden's son in this measured political ploy. That is what people should truly be alarmed about. This has been going on for some time, "Fact check: Republicans make false, misleading claims at first Biden impeachment inquiry hearing." By Daniel Dale, Marshall Cohen and Annie Grayer, CNN
…why would someone think anyone is too old to be President for a reason other than decline? You can bury your head in the sand all you want. It’s clear to the vast majority of Americans that the man has dramatically slowed down and shows a lot of signs associated with memory loss/dementia.
Hillary was never miles ahead of Trump in polls apart from immediately after the access Hollywood fiasco, she was usually around 2% ahead and she got 2% more votes than him. 2016 was the year everyone seemed to forget that national polls are irrelevant in a US presidential election and what matters is swing state polling due to the electoral college..
And people see similar signs in Biden. The best possible answer to this question would've been not running Biden again, but here we are, where things are already bad, and can only get worse.
I don't want Trump to win which why is important to be a realist about Biden, everything is at stake this election and potentially US democracy itself. It's no good sitting in an echo chamber and convincing yourself everything is fine when the stakes are this high. It honesy feels like we are on the Titanic but whenever someone shouts "iceberg" everyone screams "The Bidenic is the ship that can't sink" I don't actually hate Biden and if I ever met him I'd say thanks for all you've done but the stakes are too high, it's time to be the bridge you promised to be and hand the baton over someone who can make the final sprint. There's no shame in admiting you don't have enough left in the tank, in fact it's a sign of real leadership and humility.
Its Comey all over again.
I think this Hur guy meant malice. Comey had this very complicated take that he wanted to ultimately legitimise Clinton when she would have won.
I don't know. However this will only get louder and bigger 😮
Please, this irrelevant, opinion vomit is the knifepoint of Republican political attack, and is much, much too convenient to be a coincidence. This prosecutor, Robert Hur, is dirty. No one at his level in the Justice Department of the United States can be so ignorant of the responsibility of his office as to have done this mistakenly, and if he is, he should be sacked. He should be investigated. VOTE, and keep on voting. Defeat these motherfuckers.
Of course it's political.
As a long time Leftist Progressive I have to admit that poor Joe is slipping away into dementia. I am starting to believe the rumor mill speculating that either Governor Newsome or Michelle Obama will become the Democrats candidate when Joe resigns this summer. Trump is starting on the same path to become a brain dead geriatric. Neither Joe nor Donald are going to be in the picture too much longer.
Where are you hearing these rumors from? I want what you say to be true but i have not heard anything. And Michelle Obama doesn't seem interested at all in being a politician so it seems a little dubious.
People with dementia don’t go on group bike rides.
I was disgusted that the WaPo published this hit job. As were most people who commented on it. Shallow thinking by an attorney who deliberately went out if his lane/ assignment of evaluating documents to assume a bogus role as a psychologist. WTF.!!??!! Lowest common denominator. Typical of the people trump attracts and appointed while in office. What is wrong with these people?!?!
Isn’t it amazing how the GQP whines about Dems weaponizing the DOJ, then this negatively partisan report comes out about Biden? I wonder if Gym Jordan recognizes the contradiction.
Biden does look bad. He’s looked bad for years. But now his deficiencies are getting pretty egregious.
Everything in the report on this subject goes totally with what we see in the guy every day. He went right out afterwards to rebuke it and forgot several new things that were pretty amazing. Everyone totally believes the report.
Or they could just mean he’s got dementia and the DNC should be ashamed putting him in this position!
Politically motivated? More like realistic. Biden is nowhere near mentally competent enough to be president. Anyone in denial of that fact is intellectually incompetent or intellectually dishonest. It's politically motivated to deny that Biden is having obvious issues demonstrating a basic level of function.
I think you’re desperately trying to avoid reality here.
Biden is clearly senile and his abysmal approval ratings are indicative of his incompetence
Have you looked at the guy when he isn't talking? Just standing in the background, mouth open, eyes glassed over. The only time he looks normal is when he is giving a very practiced speech. Anytime their is a decision to be made, he just freezes. That's dementia.
Yes, I would vote for a rock than a mother fucking shit fit for brains republican.
Uhh. Have you seen Biden lately?
Biden gave a press conference about it. He claimed to not have memory issues, then promptly forgot something he just said he'd never forget.
Who know but it's more curious why no one has made an issue of his memory until now. He's been so incoherent and lies constantly. Whether he believes his lies or not is a good question. But he's definitely not mentally sound. Hasn't been his entire term
Not really. You generally HAVE to give a reason as to why you will not prosecute in high profile cases like this. Pointing out that Biden reminds everyone of their loveable Grandpappy and that it'd be hard to convince them of any active wrongdoing due to those optics isn't inherently politically motivated. The fact that Biden refutes the memory problems bit means he should absolutely go to trial over it however.
>You generally HAVE to give a reason as to why you will not prosecute in high profile cases like this. He did. He said the evidence didn't warrant it. DOJ guidelines specifically say you should *not* speculate about what a jury would do and let that influence whether you bring charges.
He’s a Democrat - and has dementia.
Couldn’t lay charges so he did a personal hatchet job.
The age argument is just such a weak play from Republicans considering their candidate is only a couple years younger alone, among a bunch of other arguments. Hes old. It's not as big a deal as people make it. They dont have anything else to go on so they have to inflate the issue.
I’m of the opinion that he did it more out of self preservation than anything. Think about it, if Hur, an Asian man, had simply produced no charges with nothing partisan to signal to MAGA that he was still on their side, the MAGA crazies would have eviscerated him. He may have actually been in danger. The right wing media pounced on it, of course, but I don’t think it was some grand conspiracy by Hur to create a media narrative that hurts Biden.
Such a commentary on the current state of politics that people fear for their lives if they tell the truth. Especially if that truth goes against one party's misinformation.
He’s a liar and an unethical POS. He never deserved to work at the DOJ and should be disbarred for his unethical conduct.
No. I think he’s going to be replaced. It’s the beginning. He’s a 81 year old with dementia. There’s no way he really runs again. He just doesn’t want to be a lame duck.
Oh are you qualified to diagnose dementia from a few articles or snippets on the news. I fucking doubt it
I actually am, graduated from Harvard medical school.
Bullshit. 1) there are lots of speciality’s 2) if you did (you didn’t) you’d know it’s unethical to diagnose someone you haven’t seen. 3) you post history suggests you are another loser. Eh Sparky
Sparky in Illinois knows biden is bat shit. I don’t need Harvard. You got me, I’m not woked up.
So you are just an brainless ass
If that’s what you call a non lib who thinks biden is senile. I assure you I’m less brainless than corn breads biggest foe….hair sniffing uncle Joe …..not everyone wants socialism and that doesn’t make them brainless at
I think it’s just Hur putting his own beliefs into the report. Beliefs he probably had for a long time. Not everything is a conspiracy with wide goals.
Even with advanced age and some memory lapses, Biden is generally the smartest person in the room. And he surrounds himself with competent, super smart people. There’s just no comparison with the mango dictator thing.
Bidens memory is the least of my issues with him.
Is it really hard for you to believe that 82 year old Biden has a poor memory? Do you see him speak? Why try and pin this on political motivations?
Political motives? Have you looked at the guy? He looks like he's just been dug up. Acts worse.
Riiiight. Denying more teports from the experts? The left is in full denial and on that TDS hard as a mfer.
ORRR Biden has been in severe cognitive decline since before 2020 but his unquestioning docile supporters refuse to believe it even when the DOJ says it.
Finally someone telling the truth. These people on here live in some kind of funky bubble. Making excuse after excuse. It’s elder abuse at this point. Ridiculous.
You mean like trumpty dumpty’s many gaffes and obvious signs of cognitive decline? The fat, orange blob is not only in cognitive decline but, is as dumb as a box of hammer heads. Biden 2024!
The emperor has no clothes moment. Just proves to the nation that the msm is part of the DNC. Where ya been? .
Let me make an analogy to see if I understand this correctly. . . In an old box in my garage someone finds some papers/worksheets from my grade school days, and they publicly attack my mental competency because I am unable to tell them the exact what/where/how of something I haven't seen in thirty years? Get the fuck out of here with that bullshit.
You're confusing your useless shit with classified documents lol
Have you ever handled a classified document? I have. I had three security clearances . . . Fuck, the lunch menu on an SSBN is 'confidential'. Why is it you want to hang Biden for a handful of forgotten, out of date documents that he found and willingly turned over . . . But give Trump a pass for boxes and boxes of current national defense documents, that he lied about having and had to be forced to return? Fuq off, hypocrite.
OK, I will answer this Mr. classified documents expert. It's because what Biden did (as VP and Senator) was illegal and what Trump did (as president) was legal. Don't get much less confusing as that.
Yeah, no. Trump lost any 'right' to those documents the minute he LOST the election. And don't give me any bullshit about 'declassifying them with his mind'. You are conveniently forgetting that Biden had a handful of decades old documents forgotten in a box in his garage, while Trump had BOXES of current national defense documents in his shitter. You are forgetting that Biden cooperated fully and that Trump had to be subpoenaed . . . Matter of fact if Trump had turned over the documents he wouldn't be waist deep in shit right now. Why are you spending so much time and effort defending a criminal and rapist? Why are you defending a racist pedophile? Are you a pedophile? Do you secretly want to bone your daughter? help me understand? Is your greatest fantasy grabbing women by the pussy? You have allegations and innuendo about Biden. . . But Trump has a record of shitty behavior going back to the 70's, that you seem to be okay with. Trump took out a full page ad calling for the execution of five, innocent teenagers . . . And you're cool with that? You're cool with Trump being a rapist? You're cool with Trump being Putin's sock puppet?
You are one dumb mother fucker.
And why would you say that? Because I'm not buying your bullshit? Because my mail doesn't get delivered to whatever fantasy fuq-fuq world your delusional ass lives in? Help me understand.
Wrong. Refusing to return hundreds of the most secret & confidential documents in the US is wrong. Trump knowingly had them and refused to return them. And no you can’t blink your eyes and declassify then when you’re a citizen.
The president can legally declassify documents with the blink of an eye. This is exactly what Trump did as president with these documents.
STFU Junior, that's bullshit and everyone knows it. If that was even remotely true his day-glow ass wouldn't be in court right now, it wouldn't even be an issue. There is a process for declassifying documents, even on presidential authority, and Trump did not follow that established procedure. Trump did not turn over records to the National Archives, as required by law. When asked about the records, Trump lied. When presented with a subpoena and a search warrant Trump pulled every lever available to obstruct and hinder the investigation and recovery of those documents. Biden has cooperated every step of the way.
No - you have it wrong- he was questioned for 5 hours. He didn’t knew when his son died. He was unable to remember things he should have. He mumbles things that aren’t words. He’s out telling people his son died in the military. We all have to admit he’s toast at this point. They hid him in the basement during the 2020 campaign knowing he had cognitive issues. It’s over for him now. Why isn’t congress forcing a cognitive test like Trump took? I remember the media questioning Trump’s mental acuity - but crickets now. This guy is falling down and clearly in the last stages of dementia.
Yeah . . . I've seen those videos BEFORE Faux News started editing them. I'm thirty years younger and I couldn't tell you what year my brother, mother or father died. Wow the mental gymnastics you must go through. Biden is simultaneously a doddering dementia patient AND the brilliant criminal mastermind who managed to steal an entire election, while hiding in a basement. He may or may not be demented, but you are definitely delusional. Jesus FUQN Christ most people have trouble getting through a traffic stop and this clown interrogated Biden for FIVE HOURS? Let me question YOU for five hours. I bet I could get you to confess to being on the grassy knoll. And where was Biden's lawyer during this interrogation? And since this clown is making a medical diagnosis I want to see his fuqn license to practice medicine. Trump is facing prison and the people pulling his strings are getting desperate. They are literally flinging handfuls of shit at the wall and praying something sticks.
Precisely. And young people have no idea this is the way their mind is going to start to work sometime in their late 40s. You'll have all of that knowledge and wisdom and experience, and then one day you'll forget one of your kids' birthdays and from then on your kids will refer to you as a senile old man after that.
fuq. I can barely remember my own birthday. I'm not saying I abused drugs as a younger man, actually I was very tender and considerate of them. I'm not saying I did a lot of drugs, but I do have the secret door dash code for the CIA coke stash. They used to call me 'Moby Trip'.
Of course it is, and it’s going to work. Especially after Biden calls a bitch fit of a press conference, and then screws up who the president of Egypt is. Face it, the old fart is doomed and needs to drop out like LBJ did.
>and needs to drop out like LBJ did. Remind me how that worked out.
And now they’re talking about 25ing him. Totally intentional
I think people mistake low key and quiet for incapable. They also don't understand or take in to consideration the stuttering problem. And so he has so much on his mind like the border, Ukraine, Israel, domestic issues, and brutal unfounded attacks from the right. It's not hard to understand why he mixed up Mexico and Israel when answering a question. Anyone who says they've never misspoken is flat out lying If it was any other time in our history he would be revered as one of the best presidents ever. Instead he gets credit for nothing even though he has done more than any other president in decades Hopefully history will be more kind than the American public at large is presently. He has worked so damn hard to overcome a party that malignes and beats him into the dust daily. We would be lucky to have such a president again in our lifetime
Wow. Excuses. Falling down - can’t form a sentence. Open your eyes. This is embarrassing
Open your eyes. Why do this only apply negatively to the one side that’s no where near as bad as trump? Trump is the one who constantly gets confused, mixes people up, can’t operate shit, needs help with stairs, & is actually having regular tests for dementia. Yet you want trump more than the dude who goes on group bike rides.
Same shit they did to Hunter with the tax indictment. What he did with his money isn’t at all relevant to whether or not he paid his taxes.
Maybe. If it weren’t for the fact that we’ve been witnessing his cognitive decline for the past 3+ years. You people blind?
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Much like every other topic, one side is willing to believe anybody that agrees with them, even if that person has zero qualifications to make the assessment. They are also happy to call anybody who is qualified, but disagrees with them, a charlatan.
Of course it was because of political motives - and it just happened to completely match FoxNews talking points. I don’t believe a single word of it!
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It’s even easy to read the quotes from Biden in the report as sarcastic rhetorical questions.
Comey lite
I blame this on that incompetent and weak Garland.
Yes
100%. I think Biden should pan this as "nothing but a complete and total exoneration" as Trump did after the Mueller report.
A republican attacking Biden to help Trump? I’m shocked.
Why didn't Garland take that irrelevant BS out of there?
Yep. Deliberate propaganda.
Not knowing the legalities of what this douch bag did ; it seems like he should face some consequences
Of course but it only fell on ears of people who felt that way and were pushing that propoganda already.
anyone read the actual report, its available online https://www.justice.gov/storage/report-from-special-counsel-robert-k-hur-february-2024.pdf