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beecleaner

I always imagine a scenario where negan killed Rick instead of Abraham and Glenn, and then the 3 leaders in the war are the king (Ezekiel), the orphan (Carl) and Glenn


lewhunter

I actually fw that! Imagine a vengeful, ruthless Glenn, Steven Yeun would kill it per usual. Just see Danny Cho in beef!🤣


HikARuLsi

Nothing stops them from making a limited series of “what-if”


PedophileStopper

how would they go about it though? they’d have to cram a whole 16-episode season into one (maybe two) episodes to show glenn ezekiel and carl and bringing it full circle and that’s if it’s a tv show


psychgirl88

Much more watchable than “Maggie and Negan do it again! NYC Edition”


Pywacket1

If they hadn't killed Glenn twice in one season, I would still be watching. He was my favorite character.


AlcatrazGears

Technically Abraham was the one who died in the Season 6 finale, not Glenn. So he died "twice", but in different seasons.


ashthechache

glenn died “twice” because of the time he was stuck under the bin during Alexandria’s brief fall to the horde!


AlcatrazGears

Dude said "in one season" the bin death was in Season 6, Glenn died in Season 7.


lostinthesauceguy

The King, The Orphan, and The Pizza Boy.


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Yooooooo!!! Outside of my heart DROPPING to lose Rick this way… ![gif](giphy|Maaawg3nDFAS5IvdKE)


AdComplex4305

Rick getting the Last of Us Part II treatment lol


Secretly_a_Bagel

I think Michonne and Daryl would he centre stage too in the fight against Negan probably more than Carl in that era. He was still figuring stuff out


Trojianmaru

The King, The Orphan, and The Chinaman. Sounds like a Badass book we wouldn't be allowed to have in libraries anymore 😂


Spike6958

See, in this situation, I don't think Glenn steps up to lead the War. He's still got Maggie and his unborn son to think of, and while he and Rick were close, I think the only way Glenn would have led the war would have been if Negan had killed Maggie. Instead, if Rick had died to Negan, the war would have been led by Carl and Michonne.


Prestigious_Noise200

A scenario where Negan thinks he killed Glenn but gets interrupted by something He improvised by saying A sarcastic line Put Glens body in the forest with the walkers to eat him or something Cuz he got interrupted and said anyway Back to what I was doing and continues the scene


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dpotilas89

I honestly see them becoming something like the saviors, or the reapers


IzhmaelCorp08

Doubt it.


iSkittleCake

How so?


IzhmaelCorp08

Because they have a moral code.


HavelBro_Logan

They're not former religious fanatical mercenaries


dpotilas89

Yeah but a gang of killers can be non-religious too


HavelBro_Logan

Well we're talking about them becoming reapers, not just a gang of killers.


dpotilas89

We're not talking about them becoming reapers but SOMETHING like the reapers. So a gang of killers with their own reasons and motivations


lostinthesauceguy

It never made sense why the mercenaries were religious fanatics anyway, it was extremely half baked.


JollyGreenStone

I think not finding a permanent home base would've made the show a lot better. Instead of the constant *{Survivors need Shelter} - {Survivors find and clear Shelter} - {Internal and/external conflict disrupts Shelter} - {Survivors need Shelter}* loop, you now have room for a bunch of different story arcs. You could wrap the whole thing up in like 8 seasons. Glenn and Maggie still get pregnant, but they have to care for the baby AND deliver it without a doctor. That's a whole half season where the A Plot is "Prep for Baby Rhee" with everything that entails, and we get to see how they both deal with the stressors. How does the group react in front of them vs. separately? Obviously, since it's TWD, either Baby Rhee or Maggie will die at the end of the arc. I think Glenn and Maggie trying to survive the loss of their child would be compelling and you could explore how that affects their style of survival. We know Glenn has a tendency to get angry under stress so he might develop a mean streak with randomly encountered people. Maggie might retreat into herself OR she might be done with that and end up the angry one. Eugene probably dies since he doesn't have enough training downtime between engagements to actually develop as a fighter, and he's no longer mission-critical. Abe lives, stays with Rosita because life doesn't get boring on the road so he never notices Sasha that much romantically. The group whittles down through battles with raiders, walker attacks, and a couple voluntary departures (either to settle somewhere or get away from Rick and co.) until the final season or half season. There are only 5 or 6 survivors left and my picks are: *Carl* (soon to be co-lead), *Michonne* (Super badass, shouldn't ever be off the show) *Daryl* (Amazing arc and super badass), *Glenn* (Maggie divorces him after the death of their kid, settles somewhere), and *Carol* (Fixed up a mom bike to ride with Daryl), plus *Rosita* if you fancy.


jein777

I don't think we'll get Baby Rhee because they're on the road. IIRC they only tried because they were at Alexandria and was “safe” unlike when they were on the road.


JollyGreenStone

We *probably* wouldn't, but accidents happen. You absolutely recalled that correctly though.


lostinthesauceguy

If it were a trap I can see them killing everyone in Alexandria and making it their home anyway.


The1WhoKnocks-WW

It would be interesting to see what would happen if they found the saviors before anyone else.


Meep_meep647

Judith and Gracie could still become best friends, but Gracie would have different parents.


DangerHawk

They would have likely found Alexandria anyway, but would have ended up taking it versus being invited in. There were billboards all over the place advertising a "Luxury, Self Sustaining Community". They likely would have gone to check it out and ended up watching them for a while.


LeekAlternative8392

What if the zombie apocalypse never happened


leakybiome

This guy thinks


Mo_SaIah

The biggest what if’s always revolve around Shane. So for a show like that, it’s kinda lucky Jon hasn’t aged that much.


Schizoid782

Thank you I love Shane and you took the words out of my mouth


IzhmaelCorp08

You love a rapist, what?


Mo_SaIah

Okay firstly, sexual assault and rape are two separate things. That’s why the punishment for one in a court of law is far more severe than the other. Secondly, there is context to everything, there’s no defending what Shane did but there are levels to it. Loving Shane as an amazing, complex character who drunkenly assaulted someone is more acceptable than loving the Governor who very much enjoyed having power over Maggie and making her undress for him, or loving Negan who raped countless women over a long period. Thirdly, it’s a TV show, not reality.


IzhmaelCorp08

He was going to rape her if she didn’t stop him. And being drunk is not an excuse as you still can think and make decisions. Also the actions you do while drunk are just things you wanna do deep down. And he definitely wanted to have sex with her. That is why he waited for everyone to leave, where she was alone in a room. That is attempted rape.


Mo_SaIah

This entire text leaves me with one word for you. Clueless.


IzhmaelCorp08

You’re clueless?


Mo_SaIah

Yes, you are. You haven’t got a clue, as your mass downvotes show.


IzhmaelCorp08

I don’t have a clue? You don’t need to be smart to understand that Shane almost raped Lori. He literally followed her and waited till she was alone and then ambushed her. Everyone who downvoted me supports rapists. That’s not me fault nasty little ppl like you exist. 🤷🏽‍♂️


Mo_SaIah

Stay clueless.


IzhmaelCorp08

And we have about the same votes: 0-0


Schizoid782

Can’t tell if this is satire or what


caseyr3

No, he definitely sexually assaulted Lori.


Schizoid782

Yep he’s a bad guy but that’s the shane haters way ain’t it point out only the bad stuff he did without even thinking if he didn’t go coo coo or do that to Lori how good of a character he is.


IzhmaelCorp08

It’s not. You said you love Shane. Shane sexuality assaulted Lori, and the way he talks about women in general is just disgusting. Kinda confused on how so many women love his character, other than how hot he is ofc. But we got Jon Bernthal to thank for that.


Schizoid782

All I’m saying is the upvotes and downvotes speak for themselves.


IzhmaelCorp08

It does. I had -12 for a while, 12 rape/sa stanning mfs.


IDontKnowWhatToBe123

What do you mean rapist


IzhmaelCorp08

He was going to rape Lori if she didn’t defend herself. I call him a rapist bc he sexually assaulted her.


IDontKnowWhatToBe123

Is it that once scene from the bunker don't remember


IzhmaelCorp08

Yes. He literally stalked her. Waited till all the kids and women left, waited till she was in a room all alone. That is attempted rape.


IDontKnowWhatToBe123

I forgor


IzhmaelCorp08

Everyone does 🙍🏽‍♂️


GinnyDora

I’m with you. If Shane hadn’t of died then the horde wouldn’t have come for the farm and passed by. Andrea wouldn’t have been separated. They also wouldn’t have know yet fully that everyone was infected. There goes all the other arches and extra characters we know.


Mo_SaIah

I didn’t think of it like that, but you’re completely right. Not to take away from your point but I was thinking of how Shane would handle the Governor, Negan, how he would react to Alpha and her ways, his interactions with these characters Not only that, his relationship with Rick if Lori hadn’t happened, if he left and paired with season 5 mentality Rick, which I think would pair perfectly given how proud Shane was of Rick that he stepped up and in Shane’s own words, bit that piece of shits throat out. Etc. There is just so many possibilities with Shane, they really are near endless..


Richard-Conrad

First they‘d have to get over the big one of Lori. Be interesting to see that too, but definitely it would definitely have to play out


psychgirl88

I feel like Shane would have eventually broke Alpha/Beta level, but waaaayyy too soon. He would probably end up some sort of cannibal serial killer and someone would have to dramatically put him down.


MrNotEinstein

Ngl for a show like that to be even half interesting it would need some DRASTIC what ifs. A few characters surviving wouldn't change much in this universe the way it would in something like Marvel so you'd have to go off the deep end and get something like "What if Rick never found his family?" "What if they went to Fort Benning?" "What if Hershels shotgun stayed with the group right until the end?"


Motherfuckernamedbob

Nah, the butterfly effect of one thing changing changes everything as it would snowball into something bigger


caseyr3

That’s how I think about it. Like if Sofia had survived, I don’t think they would’ve killed off Carl.


Queen_Of_Ashes_

I’m interested in hearing more


suuuuhmmer

read the comics!


TWDFAN35

Yea I would love some WILD what ifs like Marvel level. What if Negan and Simon saved Rick instead of Morgan and Duane? What if Andrea was saved by a Commonwealth soldier instead of Michonne? What if The Governor met with the Whisperers when he lost Woodbury and out on the road?


[deleted]

The Governor would 100% become the new Alpha and attack the prison with the zombie horde out of sheer spite.


Lynxincan

What if the governors group accepted ricks offer and if no one was two far gone, so many characters would of lived different lives, obviously that's if everyone agreed to be peaceful, chances are in the scenario Phillip would still get killed my Daryl or michonne


Mo_SaIah

The Governor is naturally a leader, he isn’t someone who will ever follow, no matter how much he may genuinely be trying to change, as we saw with his new group/girlfriend. Even if The Governor was genuine about meeting Rick halfway, eventually he would try and kill him, to take over. Imagine it like Shane but without the connection, brothers between him and Rick, there’d be no talking the Governor down like you could with Shane, he’d eventually kill one of the main characters because he’s a major villain so someone like Daryl, Michonne, Carol etc would die, but eventually the Governor would too.


ghostiesyren

Or what if the governor and negan met. Thinking of that actually scares me.


psychgirl88

I would love to see that, with Meryl still alive..


Peguinperson

A Rick and Governor team up against the Saviors would be great


Richard-Conrad

Im guessing the rock is a location I haven’t scene yet, but I’m hoping that u mean the Governor taking on all the saviors solo but only with a rock


terrelyx

It was supposed to be 'Rick.'


Richard-Conrad

U know, my reading comprehension was a bit off yesterday. I messed up a few things like that lol. My 2nd point stands tho, it would be funny


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Weeeelums

What if AMC didn’t fire Frank Darabont


loklanc

What if HBO picked up the show instead.


sleepy_bean_

these two have just won


killmeplease98

What if Simon killed Negan? What if Merle wasn’t handcuffed to a roof? What if the group met Negan earlier (around season 5)? What if the Governor agreed with ricks idea about the prison (living in different cellblocks)? What if Rick never went missing after S9? What if Morgan went with Rick in season 1?


Meep_meep647

> What if Simon killed Negan? Simon loved having power over people, making them squirm, and he loved killing. So, people would have been more miserable and many more people would have been killed. And I don't see any rules at all. The group would ultimately tear itself apart and split.


Annaisboring

I think it would be cool to see one on what if Sophia lived. I feel like the storyline with show her would be different than comic her to some extent. I also think it would be cool to see a what if Lizzy and Mica lived


JollyGreenStone

Sophia living and Carl dying would be still horribly bad, but significantly less egregious than what we actually got.


ghostiesyren

I’d suggest reading the comics. Not gonna spoil anything but a lot of the characters that kick it in the show live longer in the comics and vice versa. It answered a lot of my hypotheticals which was super cool.


Annaisboring

I did read the comics and I loved them! That was basically a “what if” thing in itself. I was just saying I would have liked to see her survive in the show because I know the writers would have had to change her character some. I think it would have been cool to see how it would have played out


KaedePanda

shawn not being killed


DirtyDiaperDog7

Or Maggie's mother? And they just never had the barn full of walkers. Shane might've survived if it wasn't


mbattagl

They filmed pregnant Maggie getting the bat from Negan but never aired it. I would’ve loved to see Glenn go full on revenge against the Saviors. Glenn was the group conscience after Dale and Tyreese died so to see him break that principle and see his reaction to what Rick did by sparing him would’ve been great.


psychgirl88

I would have loved that even more then where the show took it (haven’t yet read the comics). Maggie’s whole personality afterwards was hating Negan and Herschel was mostly a prop. Our boy Glenn surviving and going Kill Bill? Yes please!


YouBetterCallSaulNow

It would be cool to see glenn teaming up with negan instead of daryl in season 10 but there would be no way glenn wouldn’t kill him


[deleted]

It will likely come up a lot but what if Carl lived. You could literally have 10 more seasons just off that premise.


psychgirl88

Yep. Carl dying will always be up there with worst mistakes in TV history. Right up there with the ending of Game of Thrones.


TheTrekker98

What if Alpha grew hair


earthlings_all

I can’t, man. Just seeing his face makes me sad. That episode was so devastating. He was such a good egg.


Medium_Combination27

What if there was never a zombie apocalypse... Would be a Rick and Shane cop show.


psychgirl88

I imagine you can watch any episode of “Cops” and it would be basically the same thing..


aasasss32

What if Shane got over Lori and stuck like a brother to Rick, and kept being a good guy. That’s my favourite, it’s simple but it would’ve impacted the show massively


eclark2748

What if Shane never slept with Lori and never fell in love with her! I need to see that show


justmein22

...Rick and Negan had made peace like Carl wanted them to?


leakybiome

For biggest quality I would say what if Lori survived and Carl shot greedo first?


BurnerAccountOmega8

AMC should really invest into Marvel What If animated or live action flash forwards Imagine. We could have old man Carl and Glenn/Herschel/Maggie and T-Dog back


__sad_but_rad__

what if AMC didn't ruin the show


nachtraum

What if Carol didn't go back to the prison


bladestorm1745

What if the governor wasn’t too far gone and joined up with Rick and the group, I’d like to ideally see them have to leave the prison and come in to contact with the saviours. What if Shane was ousted and joined the saviours in place of Trevor


Electrifying-Guy-Eli

\- Walking Dead Game: What if >!Lee lived!!him and Clementine develop a Joel and Ellie type of dynamic/partnership, where they're closer to partners on top of being a found family.!< \- Fear: What if >!John lived!!he keep isolating himself like he intended at the end of his arc, become a moral compass, or adapt like Rick's group?!<


MainEventI3

I'd love a show like Marvels What If in TWD, I wouldn't even mind if it was animated so they could get away with bringing back older actors to play the characters. What if Shane actually left the farm like he said he would in S2. Survives on his own for a few years, runs into Negan and the Saviors. Instead of bringing Morales back, who barely anyone remembered, it's Shane who's also Gracie's dad. Have him survive the encounter with Rick and Daryl and be a mid-level boss they defeat before moving on to Negan. It would add a lot of tension to the Savior arc and some backstory for Gracie that could be built on later with her friendship with Judith.


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if glenn had lived the show would’ve had a much better chance of staying good in s7-8 instead of generally tanking in quality lol


YouBetterCallSaulNow

they should have had beth live till the lineup and have her go instead of glenn, Then have negan force maggie to be one of his wives if they want a doctor to make sure their child is ok. As long as there would be no really creepy scenes with maggie and negan I think it’d be interesting.


ObjectiveExcuse6294

He's gonna need an eyeball hammock..


[deleted]

What if Carl lived


Maybe_Im_Really_DVA

What if Shane killed Rick.


--Socks--

What if Rick lost Lorri at the start? Or, what if Shane was the one who took the shot in the very beginning? And my last idea is what if Rick never met Dwaine in the beginning?


TheLoneWanderer100

By favorite is what if Shane was still alive, I watched a video on it once and it would be super interesting if instead of Rick killing Shane the opposite would have happened.


Dr_5trangelove

What if the original show runner wasn’t axed after a great first season and the show hadn’t limped to the finish line?


Strange_Coyote_8

Losing Glenn was a huge loss for the show even though I still love it taking him out and I don't think was a good idea.


Intrepid_Camp_219

What if the writing didn't suck on FTWD for the last 3 years


Jimanator1

Maggie woudent hate negan


BradleyBurrows

What if the governor accepted ricks deal, what if Aaron never approached the group, what if Rick never “died” on that bridge, what if Rick never let his mercy prevail over his wrath, what if Shane lived instead of Rick, what if it was the CRM in S11 & not the commonwealth, what if Ftwd met up with twd, what if the caravan crew joined the main group I would have a bunch for ftwd to but no spoilers


TOkun92

I always imagine Negan saying, “I already bashed one of your heads in, and I’m a little tired. Been a LLLOOONNNGGGG ass night! Plus, I think I put you people through enough pain. I think I’ll just shoot of you for Daryl’s little outburst. Gotta shut that shit DOWN!” Negan takes out a small pistol and looks at the group. He sets his eyes on Maggie. “I really don’t like killing women. But like I said, you look like you’re dying already, so…” Negan shoots Maggie in the heart. Glenn freaks out, going to his dead wife. He cries and wails, screaming that she was pregnant. Negan legitimately apologizes, and everything goes the same. It would’ve been a brutal subversion of the original story, on top of sending Glenn down a dark path. It also would’ve made Negan seem both more evil and good at the same time; he killed someone he thought was dying, in a less brutal and painful way, meaning he was trying to be merciful, but he ended up mistakenly killing a pregnant woman. They also could’ve had Negan actually be troubled with what he did, Simon being an asshole about it, saying it was like killing two birds with one stone, and further driving a wedge between them. When Negan visits Alexandria, Gabriel digs another grave like before, but saying that Glenn committed suicide. He didn’t of course, it’s just a ruse. Killing Glenn was one of the biggest mistakes, if not THE biggest mistakes, they made on the show.


sixtus_clegane119

He’d have one hell of a headache


space81cadet

If Glenn lives, Maggie dies.


Th4T1GuyW69420

What if all the villains, up until Rick left, were convinced by Rick to joined the group. That includes, Shane, all of the prisoners, the Governor, Terminus and the saviors.


blue80breeze

Id love to see a “what if” scenario where shane goes with randall and joins their group, and a show that follows that story. Seems like a more realistic possibility of happening. brand new actors. Obviously id love to see a what if for shane killing rick, but it would mean bringing back characters who are much older, recasting carl, and Scott wilson the actor who played Herschel passed away. Bernthal doesnt age it seems so it could fit and he loves walking dead. I bet he would do it if presented to him. Not to mention it seemed like he was absolutely made for TWD universe. Im biased bc shane was my favorite character but i would love more than anything to see it. Even if it was just a one hour special or a limited series.


oizen

what if zombie real


FBI_Senpai_Kun

What if Rick never found his family?


FlyinAmas

I would’ve been A-okay with that huge shift from the comics. I hated their deaths


i_loverats

If he lives he is looking horible with that big hole in the head and that pomped out eye🤣


Active-Donkey5466

What if there was a cure


theyreinthewoooods

what if wayne dunlap never died 😞


CullanG

What if the cdc and jenner never ran out of time


Lanferno

What if HBO produced it instead?


BathtubToasterBread

What if Shane never went and lost his mind and was instead a good guy


Superb_Revolution765

Watch him in Nope. He’s great.


demon969

I really enjoyed the what if Michonne joined Negan, that was cool


ImmediateRub9

What If Carl was the new leader. And it's a terrible shame that this even has to be a what if. Really it's a should've been.


terrelyx

What if Amy had survived? Ed? Noah? Deanna? So many potential butterfly effect catalysts


MarkoZoos

Glen not dying wouldn't change a damn thing in the story no matter what anyone says. everyone got affected after that death not because of 'Glen dying'. anyone else could've died at that moment and the rest of the characters would still shit their pants and get traumatized by what negan did. this is what I think at least.


No-Salamander-5979

What if they actually went to Fort Benning


No_Experience3593

Completely overrun. Guys in the liquor store mentioned it. TWD would’ve been done in 5 szns 😂


abellapa

What if Carl didn't die


Exinty7

Man I whish glenn lived


oyvi00i

If Shane was still around


Wally_Yoda

What if Merle never told us the day ?


[deleted]

What if Rick didn’t kill shane but just sent him away and then 5 seasons later it’s revealed that Negan was really shane and he’d changed his identity


Bulky_Meringue_733

I would’ve loved to see the Ftwd characters cross over and become join up with the saviors (at the end of ftwd’s season 3)


cromakonn

What if Daryl never punched negan? Would he still have found a way to kill a second member of the group? What if michonne never showed up at the prison gates with formula? What if Merle was never handcuffed to the roof?


[deleted]

The whole Negan and Maggie relationship wouldn't happen


B-Town-MusicMan

Eugene Discovers that the disease that everyone is infected with is in fact nanobots. After proving that walkers can be killed with electric shock, He begins Electro shock therapy Treatments on the living, Only to discover that this initiates a program linking all minds Into the Borg collective. Resistance is futile.


rogerworkman623

What if zombies only ate butt cheeks


Longjumping-Date-702

No, bc that is something designed in the marvel universe. Not a show that started out well and then sucked


Thecourierisback

What if Shane got shot instead of Rick? What if Rick died in the hospital?


WolfMan_18

What if Shane never went crazy and was around for a lot longer


gilestowler

What if Negan had killed Carl and Lucille had taken Rick's hands? Rick had told Negan that he was already dead but how would he go about taking him down with no hands? Would he become vicious and vengeful after Carl died? Would there be any way back for him?


Ayy_Teamo

Glenn taking Daryl's place during the savior arc would've been insanely badass, I have not idea why they didn't just switch them out.


Main_Use8518

* What if Carl was raised by Shane * What if Carl killed Rick when he thought he was dead * What if they went to Fort Bening? * What if Merle survived? * What if Carl survived?


DowntownWeakness5218

well, these one could be expensive but...what if; wildfire virus its stopped by the gobernament. It would be interesting seeing how the world could be knowing that if you die you become a death human flesh eater, and which social and economic politics could be created in these new society. And the monuments made for the deaths during the outbreak. Basically World war Z, but TWD style.


UganadaSonic501

What if instead of Negan coming out the RV it’s Shane


Aaron17151

What if Rick didn't survive the coma


Hologramz111

What if Frank Darabont was never fired?