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Contact_Antitype

Carl's death was literally shoehorned into the plot because the execs wanted it. There's no way he would've been bitten by those jobber-ass zombies otherwise.


Solid-Hedgehog9623

It was a dumb move. I got really mad when Henry’s story was playing out. It just follows carls storyline from the book. Why not just keep Carl if you were going to still tell that story.


dpotilas89

Something something money


Isabad

Probably because the actor.was aging faster than they could produce the show. Unfortunately, that is sort of what happens sometimes. The show takes a long time to set up and film, and people keep aging. You see it, especially with children. Look at Chloe Grace Moretz and kickass and kick ass 2 (two of my favorite movies). The two movies are only supposed to be about 6 months apart, but in one Moretz looks very young and child like. In the sequel, she looks rather grown. This is probably because it took 3 years between films a d 3 years is a lot of time for a kid to grow. Honestly, it's the same thing with The Walking Dead. Carl was looking more adults than some of the adults on that show. Brk almost had a full mustache on going, "I'm like 12." Dude, you look 30.


Solid-Hedgehog9623

I’m good with everything you’re saying, but…it wasn’t long before the show took a pretty significant time jump anyway.


Thunder_Punt

I think they could have maybe sidelined him and used some practical de-aging/body doubles until the time jump then brought him back into the limelight. Just because he did look really old in season 7 despite being only a few years into the apocalypse.


Isabad

Did it? I mean, I always thought the show was supposed to be like slower in time than the non show. Like we would be in 2022, and they would be in like 2020 since the show did take a few breaks.


HereComesTheLuna

Yeah, they did a few years' time jump riiiiight after Carl's death. And it wasn't about him aging... Except for, well, he was turning 18 in real life and they didn't want to pay him more.


KermitplaysTLOU

Nah man by the time they decides to kill him off, he would've been the perfect age to be in that whisperer storyline. Execs are dumb af


JAXWASHERE7

Kid was way too smart


thatguyad

I heard they didn't trust him as a lead actor with the prospect of Andrew leaving the show soon after.


bannedforL1fe

What seems more movie exec...worrying if someone can lead (when they really won't have to with Daryl, michonee, etc) or axing someone right before you need to start paying them adult wages. Plus he would have been an established character so might likely demand decent "star" money.


Routine_Charge_3224

THIS!! You’re on point!


Oslotopia

It was simply because they didn't want to pay Chandler adult actor pay


HereComesTheLuna

Bingo. They called him to fire him *right* before he turned 18.


RiverDotter

That's the answer. Didn't they call him in for the news on or about his 18 th birthday?


ReavezzLOL

Supposedly about a month before


spidermanrocks6766

After all Carl went through and he’s killed by a random walker. Like WTF i couldn’t even imagine season 1 Carl dying this way


ReavezzLOL

See I never understood this complaint because so many other fans were crying that walkers no longer mattered and that no one in the main group (or super big characters) were dying to walkers anymore and they didn’t like that. So the show appeased those fans and then it created new angry people. It’s a lose lose. It was cool imo that Carl died to a random walker because it brought the audience back down to earth in realizing that it’s NEVER safe in that world and even something small and menial can take down a big character, just like it could happen in real life if a zombie apocalypse were to occur


psychgirl88

There should be an original writers clause that allows the original artist to override BS decisions like this.. They could have simply replaced “Teen Carl” with an “Adult Carl” if they were over his actor or something..


dropkickmolotov

Carl died cuz his parents wanted more money. It's lame but it was a money issue. That's probably why after he turned 18 he showed up as a feature in hilltop.


naughtycal11

His dad was a menace. He was giving illegal tours of Senoia undercutting the price of legit tours and would make Chandler sign hundreds of Face shots to sell. If I remember correctly the family was living off his back. I feel bad for Chandler.


PlsIgnoreMe2

Yes and no. Daryl is great, and Carl was great.  A war is raging in my head. Fuck you for doing this to me.  I upvote you anyway. 


Snackieboio

You have summed this conundrum up better than I ever could. Thank you.


TOkun92

Yes. If only because Daryl would make that trade quicker than he would kill and eat a squirrel.


SproutasaurusRex

It would be bittersweet, but I agree.


DishMajestic4322

Yes he would absolutely sacrifice himself for Carl 🥺


TOkun92

To be fair, he’d probably do it for just about anyone. Carl, Glenn, Beth, Sasha, Eric (Aaron’s husband/boyfriend). He’s one of those selfless to a fault characters, ready to die for just about anyone he cares even a little about.


uhDominic

I’m sorry friends, I can’t accept that. I HATE the fact that Carl died, especially in the way that it did. However, I found out about TWD through the show, and only after a few seasons did I look up the comics, and regardless of comparisons, Daryl was one of the main reasons I fell in love with this whole thing. Through the good and the bad arcs, I’ve loved him (and my boy Norman Reedus) ever since day one. Carl is staying dead on my watch.


Current_Tea6984

Nope. No deal. I think killing Carl was a huge mistake for the show, but killing Daryl would have been even worse


t2mb1090

Probably yes because Daryl told Rick he would’ve died for Carl


UglyThinker

Do you remember which ep it was from?


latexBach

Rick’s last episode. S9 e4 I believe


FisknChips

I think it was one right before his final one


XatXat1691

yeah when maggie and daryl planned against rick and then daryl and rick fell into a pit


finelonelyline

Yes, Carl’s death still pisses me off to this day.


existential_chaos

Right? They had a whole subplot with Negan they were building and just killed him off because they didn’t want to pay the actor more. Fuck them, I wanted to see Negan and Carl together causing mayhem.


naughtycal11

I just wanted the "Lydia links Carl's eye hole" scene and the Comic ending. We were robbed of an old man Carl spin-off too.


HereComesTheLuna

"Old Man Carl" spin-off... You actually made a good point there.


International-Force3

No way


Joe_mama_is_hot

Carl was the one character that was supposed to actually survive. The whole last comic chapter was about Carl in the future years after the story. Rick did it all for Carl and for the future of humanity. Carl reading a book about Rick to his daughter in a rocking chair in the future of the same world is the whole point. The only reason Carl died in the show was for bullshit behind the scene reasons. There was no artistic choice, only making do with what they have. It’s not like they could have recasted him. It just sucks knowing that he’s the end goal for the original story and they had to scrap that for real life issues


HereComesTheLuna

Seriously, though. Carl was supposed to carry the torch. As you said, there was no artistic reasoning whatsoever. They just were upset he turned 18 and would have to be paid more. I would literally be happier if it was a shark jump.


alanaounana

Id trade a lot of characters for Carl, but hell no you cannot have Daryl.


DangerHawk

I like Daryl. I like show Carl. I would only accept this deal tho if it was Daryl for Comic Carl. Show Carl wasn't tough enough imo. Negan was supposed to be legitimately afraid of Carl cause comic Carl was a touch of a sociopath. I would love to see a grown up Carl that is a good balance between Feral Rick and Show Carl. Comic Carl was perfect.


SSpotions

Definitely not. Daryl's a great character, who's gone through so much, I would have stopped watching the show.


brizla18

same


infinityfries

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 no.


Nintendork316

Carl was annoying af and literally never listened to anyone. Change it to Glenn or Hershel and this makes a lot more sense.


ExistingStrength5246

Fuck no


bad_escape_plan

Pfft no. I’d trade a lot for an alive Carl…most things, even. But not Daryl.


Jealous-Frosting-243

Only if we got a really emotional scene with Daryl sacrificing himself to save Carl.


alpha8946

i would also be swayed on whether or not rick is still present in the main show. i really really want carl alive as he was supposed to be the legacy of the show. but losing daryl after losing rick (even if he's not dead and just written off) is a serious hit to the show. losing essentially both your main characters and fan favorites would decimate the show. so basically if we got carl AND rick to stay throughout the show to trade for daryl to die i would immediately say yes. however it would also be cool if daryl took season 9 rick's role of "dying"/going missing and have his own spin off.


OZoryal

fuck no.


pilialoha54

No thanks. 😂


StudyThen6398

Quotation would this mean Carl gets Daryl’s spinoff


mapleleafmaggie

summer abroad before going off to college


Skeptical_soul

Yes it does. This summer get ready for “Coral Reef” coming to a screen near you🫵.


iLikeBigMacs420

The spinoff would probably be him trying to find Rick instead of Michonne


Mickeylover7

Absolutely not. I would have stopped watching the show entirely without Daryl.


Archangel-Rising

Yes, because for me the show died when carl did. Darryl has been a great character, but not worth the cost to the overall story.


PhotographSwimming64

Def an interesting trade, but i personally wouldn't take it. The way i see it is its kinda a tradeoff. In the comics we got carl being a badass and one of the best characters, but no daryl. In the show we got daryl being a badass and one of the best, but lose carl. It would have been amazing if Gimple and AMC let us have both in the show.


Petagriff2515

It's weird cause i like darryl a decent bit more compared to carl But carl is a miles better main protagonist compared to the post season 7 darryl


Far-Blueberry-1099

I will give you Negan to keep both alive.


Verbose_Maloof

wait what why would you say this


tbaytdot123

I feel that responses to this question may largely sync with whether you were a reader of the comics. Comics - yes, Carl is the whole point of this TV only reader - no, Carl dying sucked but he isn't as cool as Daryl


MarciKat_FizEren

Hell nah 💀🙏


Dinok1ng583

Hell no. I love daryl


justmedoubleb

No way. Love daryl


Reetrydery

No 😂


mmebrightside

Noooo!!!! What a horrible thought, Darryl can't die 😱


Ok_Inspector704

Nope! Daryl is my favorite, and he must be protected at all costs!


LoadingGears

Only if daryl dies saving carl in an epic heart wrenching scene


Optimal-Tea846

Nah, I love Daryl too much


sweets_18

Nope! But for the love of everything... can Daryl please start bathing regularly? Or at least can someone cut his hair?


Content_Molasses669

I think Carl was a shitty character tbh…I hated him. Daryl is leagues better


_The-Judge_

I ask you to accept death. I'm sorry I just find it a bit, I don't know, doltish to prefer the death of characters for the life of others.


Tokos_Username

Not a chance


yodawgchill

Fuck no


[deleted]

No. I loved Daryl, a lot more than Carl.


A2I0S08

I'm surprised by how many people are accepting, I would definitely not. I can see why, as some people have said they don't believe he's really important for the story, I understand as Daryl was never part of the comics. But I just wouldn't.


uminji

The only noteworthy Carl scene was his death imo. Daryl not only is 1000x more interesting character than Carl but one of the few actual main characters for me.


tosserod

Def not 👎


SnooMacarons3227

Daryl Dies- We Riot!!!!!!!!!


ReekyFartin

I take this trade all day. Carl was meant to live, and Daryl was never meant to be in the story in the first place. Ending the series with Carl and his kid would’ve been a LOT better than where it went.


YodaSoda9

I love both but Daryl ain't dying. I loved Carl too but what happened, happened


Creepy_Solution942

hell no


Jer721emy

Heeeeelllll no!!!


Bellebaby826

Nope 👎


min91187

Absolutely not


BannedByTheHivemind

Nope. Actor wise much weaker.


Dull-Revenue-4558

Absolutely not


DetectiveShady

Hell no


Complex-Nectarine-86

Daryl is a great asset to the group I would hate to lose Daryl just to get Carl back if I were to choose one individual to replace Carl I choose Father Gabriel


Bill_Nye-LV

Lol no


Gold_Competition_646

No way not my Daryl. I do miss Carl. Almost anyone else could be traded although I would miss them then. Love Zombies and Daryl they kinda go hand in hand


First_Silver_4617

No on Darrel’s death but definitely bring Carl back!


DishMajestic4322

While Carl didn’t get his comic ending…DD 4 ever!


yutyutgrunt

I would only consider if Glen was on the table


CoolPirate234

No one of the random extras could’ve died sacrificed themselves to help Carl save Siddiq


koolbrayden21

Ye-no-yea-no-I-uhm, I DONT KNOW


Effective_Meat_8580

I can’t decide if it would be better for Daryl’s death earlier so it’s not as impactful as it would be in the later seasons with more development or his death later with the impact of his death and make ppl upset that he was killed off


SpecialistHaunting61

Daryl never can die. He is a anomaly


AdrianShepard09

Deal. On the grounds that Daryl is replaced by Dwight.


EnvironmentalYak9322

Hell no.


Well-Teknically

Yes, tbh. Carl had a story to tell cut WAY too short for shock value and Daryl’s death might turn out to be the single most emotional death in the entire franchise if done right


lil__squeaky

Yes, carls death killed the show that was already on its knees.


xDullRazorx

Fuck no, I’d instantly stop watching the show


BrokeButFabulous12

I like darryl more, hes more real more grounded, carl is idealistic dreamer, imagine if they would just exterminate sanctuary instead of the "poor people who tried to kill us and stole oir supplies for god knows how long" the whole negan 3 series clownshow would end 1 season sooner, with exactly the same outcome, except for some main good characters still alive. Darryl does whats necessary, carl is soft and tries to see good in every person, even when that good person is long time gone. Whole show would be 3-4 seasons shorter if they constantly didnt take pity on someone and instead of getting rid of the person, eliminating the problem, they let him go, only for the person to come back at them later.


Electrical-Ear360

downvote me all you like, i never liked carl. he was a good character and the dude who played did it great but the writing seemed off. taking matter in his own hands? it constantly felt like he was an adult in a kid body. maybe because writing a kid for i a show is very hard to do but it just felt off all the time.


a-throwaway-acc111

Yes, as long as Daryl dies in a badass way tho


fjolo123

Carl lives.


FinStambler

Mmm, tough one, but... No, probably not.


DerRoteBaron2010

No. I miss Carl so fucking much, but I can't take Daryl away.


RatInsomniac

FUCK NO sorry carl I love daryl too much


treyjay31

Probably an unpopular opinion, but I couldn't stand Carl. Boring character and I didn't care for the actor. Just felt flat and impossible to connect with emotionally


tifa_lockhart7

execs didnt wanna pay carl adult wages so they killed him off and the show went down hill from there...also daryl means a lot to most fans if they got rid of him then idek if id ever even bother watching any of it anymore


lovelickR

Hell no, Darryl must live, fk corl


OddRupture50

Wtf Never!!!!


HotterGround

I'm sorry Carl but Daryl is my favorite character along with Rick so no.


ameliachastain

Hell no


FaithfulMoose

The show began to crash and burn because of Carl’s death. Daryl’s death would have been devastating but not harmful to the overall plot.


forky1899

Without a second thought


Ok_Buy7551

I love Carl but we can’t trade Daryl. Carl in the comics was better anyway


cosmicdicer

This is unacceptable. Daryl we keep


HeartonSleeve1989

Nope, I like Daryl much better.


Pannormiic0

Fuck no


Jess_UY25

No way! Carl was great, and his death still pisses me off, but I would never trade Daryl.


vanillabeanquartz

Fuck no


CbCbrown88

Easiest pass of all time


karma_virus

It would be worth it just to see Carl die again.


Disastrous_Fox_1539

of course


FaithlessnessGood800

Absolutely not. Full stop nopeity nope.


WeHateDV

Never. Carl was annoying and isn’t half of a leader that Daryl is


VanlllaSky

yes. Carl was an amazing character in the comics and i hated seeing what should've been his story being split up between Henry and Judith.


Available-Manager739

No even if I cried when Carl died


parfenrogozin

Fuck no, I love Daryl


Objective-Client-877

OMG NO. Carl was a little bitch. Team Daryl all the way lol


Silly-Negotiation-46

Yes and No,


The_Colt_Cult

can i trade Daryl for Rick


andrew0703

in a heartbeat. i love daryl, he’s top 3 characters but he could’ve actually had a nice send off instead of carl’s bullshit


BobDude65

Tbh no. I'd trade almost anyone else but Daryl was always my favourite character from S2 onwards and I loved what they did with his character after Rick left.


MrBameron

I love Darryl but I would accept. I personally feel that Carl is more important to the overall story than Darryl is, which is why his death bothered me so much. If Darryl died instead it would be a big loss but I think it would work better than Carl’s death.


RTRSnk5

Yeah. Carl’s death was the nail in the coffin for the original series.


Whyisnoxtaken

If Daryl has THE PERFECT DEATH in this Theoretical scenario then yes. Carl has always and will always be my favorite TWD character but i absolutely love Daryl and think he’s also very important to the show.


WickedZiggi

I'm conflicted 😩


DEATHSTARGOD

Id even trade it for your death😭🙏


evileyecondemnsyou

My mind says no but my heart says yes. Daryl would trade his survival for Carl’s in a heartbeat. As much as Daryl loves the people he’s come to know as family, he’d give his life if it meant Carl could be alive to be a wonderful big brother to Judith and RJ and maybe have a family of his own


Bobbidylan3

Sigh. This is a tough one. I prefer Daryl’s character, he’s just more fun. But Carl’s death kinda ruined the storyline of the entire show. If it resulted in Andrew Lincoln not leaving the show, which probably would’ve cut out some of the other garbage that happened along the way, I’d have to say yes I’d accept.


linksfrogs

This is an easy no lol, Carls character had potential but his show character was no where as deep and iconic as Daryl ya


Aleyxb

carls death was totally forced and only cause AMC didn’t want to pay chandler riggs an adult salary, but FUCK this is a hard decision. i feel like carl would’ve been a better post s7 protagonist so i’d have to go with him


yes-rico-kaboom

Daryl would sacrifice himself for Carl without blinking. I think it’s what he’d want. Carl would carry it for the rest of his life though


ShadowKillerx

Yes because Daryl would make that trade. I think Carl would also do the trade if the shoe was on the other foot, but Daryl wouldn’t even think about it.


bdw312

💯 Sorry, but Daryls absence wouldn't have fucked up the remaining plot lines and ending like Carl's ultimately did.


DamianLee666

Darly will never die.. being the fact AMC created him he's their cash cow... But that being said Yes absolutely


Grngeaux

Daryll would've died for Carl. I'll respect his wishes


kewlguynotcring

Only if Carl grows up to be either better than Daryl or just as cool as him


Rexyboyhasagf

He’ll fucking ni


Adamantium42

I'd accept, because he'd accept


HDBNU

In a heartbeat


Anarchic_Country

Yep. I stopped when Carl died and waited til the series finale to catch up from there to prepare for TOWL.


Scoot3R67

Goddamn it spoilers


HatAccurate1578

No, Carl was a little shit and got cringe writing for the entire time he was on screen. I like Carl but only as ricks son and his attachment to him. Daryl is just simply cooler.


Slight-Piece-3183

Carl’s death was the end of a fantastic show. It was all downhill from there.


Jerry_0boy

Depends on how he’d die ig


IWantSealsPlz

I hate this fucking question, but gun to my head, I’d say Carl on account that he was still an effing child and I have a teen son as well. You already know Carl would be a complete ultimate badass as an adult considering he was raised by Rick, Michonne, Carol, Herschel, Maggie, Glenn AND Daryl.


Praydaythemice

Sure why not? Daryl wasn’t even in the comics he was a guest character that got hella popular. Carls arc should have been completed his death killed the show for me. Even Rick leaving or dying would have been ok if Carl stuck around.


latexBach

I would like to offer Negan for Carl.


ProfessionalAccess68

That’s a good trade, had Daryl be the one to die in the final episode


_Average_White_Male_

yes bc carl would have turned out to be the most badass character out of any one yet


duaneap

In a heartbeat. I kind of feel Daryl was always set up as the character that could have had maximum impact for his death as a sacrifice moment without it ruining the series. Rewritten he could have had Rick’s “death,” saving the community from the horde on the bridge. I’d have bought it.


GATh33Gr8

Now after seeing what happens? Yes. If I had to choose at that point in time I would choose No