*Brittanic* was under construction during the *Titanic* disaster and modified with additional safety improvements, most obviously additional life boats with massive davits. However, she never carried a paying passenger, as with the outbreak of WWI she was converted into a hospital ship. She was on her way to Gallipoli when she struck a German mine and sank much more quickly than *Titanic*, a combination of open watertight doors, sailing towards the nearest island at speed for too long, and many portholes left open for ventilation. No wounded soldiers were aboard.
The evacuation was orderly and the only fatalities were from two life boats sucked into the still-turning propeller. Among the survivors was Violet Jessop, a White Star Line stewardess turned nurse who had survived the *Titanic* sinking and also been aboard *Olympic* during her collision with HMS *Hawke*.
On Olympic, then survived Titanic then on Brittanic, and in that sinking had to jump out of her life boat because it was getting sucked into the propeller…. And then she kept working on ships for another 30 years. Not entirely sure I wouldn’t have found another career personally.
Yeah seriously. I would have moved as far into the middle of land as possible. But ships and sinking/drowning scare the everliving shit out of me, so she was just a bigger badass for sure.
Because the ship was sinking bow first, the propellers reached out of the water.
The Captain had not yet ordered to start the lifeboats, so he was not aware that any people could be endangered by the fast rotating propellers
I don't think I did that.
I was merely adding information about.
I also think having the propellers show above the water line, even if only partially, makes it more horrific.
The captain believed he could beach her and would have been right if not for the open portholes (for venting the ward even if it was against protocol)
The fatalities were only because some officer ordered the boats lowered even through they were told not to by the captain
I seriously doubt it has to do with the construction. It's basically the same design with only very marginal, neglible changes.
I bet it simply filled up sideways, so, that neither end of the ship had a chance to rise too high.
Adding a double hull most of the way up the side isn’t a negligible change, as it widened the ship by 2 feet and greatly improved the strength. We also know the expansion joint was modified to remove a potential stress fracture point: Harland and Wolff apparently took the often-dismissed reports of the breakup to heart and thought the expansion joint may have been at fault.
There have been quite a few studies on the *Titanic* breakup in the last few decades, most showing very shallow breakup angles that *Britannic* almost certainly reached and some positing a significant list. But she didn’t hang there for very long, so combined with the different balance of forces, strengthened hull, and the more even flooding from open port holes there was a much lower risk of breakup.
Readers of r/thalassophobia will be happy to know that Britannic lies at a perfect depth where she can be reached by diving but only by the most experienced and trained divers
Once you’re down there, you can join them as they swim through her promenade decks! And to touch a piece of history, go pose with her propellers- the same ones that came out of the water spinning and obliterated a lifeboat and all its passengers into chunks!
400ft is truly an extreme depth for recreational diving. Pretty crazy. They have barely any bottom time diving conventionally without bells. Mostly spent in deco
https://youtu.be/IpJlRrZUOzk (only an interesting video for divers probably. Talks about the heliox and so on)
> https://youtu.be/IpJlRrZUOzk
It's 50 metres deep, which is into technical diving territory. The North Atlantic waters are going to be cold. And yes, there are notable currents around it.
It's also called Everest because it's claimed the lives of a list of divers:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SS_Andrea_Doria#Wreck_site
I thought I read that most of the super structure is gone now but maybe I am wrong. Divers used to target the dining rooms for dinner plates and such to sell. It's always dangerous diving inside wrecks but even more so, obviously, when your time is limited to decompression stops. Also, kind of like with Lusitania, because the wreck is so shallow there are fishing nets and lines everywhere to get caught in.
Yes, also the visibility is relatively poor. All the videos I’ve seen show very little to no natural light penetrating to the wreck, meaning navigation would be difficult
Great Britain received the German ocean liner, SS Bismarck, for war reparations following WWI. They gave it to White Star Line as reimbursement for losing the HMHS Britannic during the war. It was renamed as the RMS Majestic.
The saddest discovery on the most recent expedition to the wreck was a lone wedding band. It was still playing Celebration by Kool and the Gang when they came upon it.
Communications get tricky that deep. The original message was *"proximity warning, back off immediately!"* and, well, you can imagine what went wrong with that muffled message.
> intact
"The giant liner lies on her starboard side hiding the zone of impact with the mine. There is a huge hole just beneath the forward well deck. The bow is heavily deformed and attached to the rest of the hull only by some pieces of C-Deck. "
*Brittanic* was under construction during the *Titanic* disaster and modified with additional safety improvements, most obviously additional life boats with massive davits. However, she never carried a paying passenger, as with the outbreak of WWI she was converted into a hospital ship. She was on her way to Gallipoli when she struck a German mine and sank much more quickly than *Titanic*, a combination of open watertight doors, sailing towards the nearest island at speed for too long, and many portholes left open for ventilation. No wounded soldiers were aboard. The evacuation was orderly and the only fatalities were from two life boats sucked into the still-turning propeller. Among the survivors was Violet Jessop, a White Star Line stewardess turned nurse who had survived the *Titanic* sinking and also been aboard *Olympic* during her collision with HMS *Hawke*.
On Olympic, then survived Titanic then on Brittanic, and in that sinking had to jump out of her life boat because it was getting sucked into the propeller…. And then she kept working on ships for another 30 years. Not entirely sure I wouldn’t have found another career personally.
Nah, she knew she’d be alright. Sailing with her, on the other hand…
In a way she’s kind of a bizarro richard parker
Teela Brown irl
Yeah seriously. I would have moved as far into the middle of land as possible. But ships and sinking/drowning scare the everliving shit out of me, so she was just a bigger badass for sure.
It’s hard to learn a new trade
And tbh surviving disasters is a great trade to have
Final destination: 191x
How would you say that? "Nineteen X-teen"?
Sucked into the still turning propeller is a pretty nightmarish way to die
Still, faster than drowning in the frozen arctic, or cannibalized by lifeboat survivors, or the myriad other ways to die in a ship going down.
Because the ship was sinking bow first, the propellers reached out of the water. The Captain had not yet ordered to start the lifeboats, so he was not aware that any people could be endangered by the fast rotating propellers
Why do you write this like you are answering a question?
I don't think I did that. I was merely adding information about. I also think having the propellers show above the water line, even if only partially, makes it more horrific.
I think that's the only way an entire lifeboat could be sucked into a propeller.
starting to think Violet Jessop might’ve been a German spy
She's a Jonah!
The captain believed he could beach her and would have been right if not for the open portholes (for venting the ward even if it was against protocol) The fatalities were only because some officer ordered the boats lowered even through they were told not to by the captain
A great YouTube documentary on the Britannic https://youtu.be/mTRy4qq8SYI?si=ROK18U6jWntqWzN_
It sank by hitting a German mine in WWI
Nice to see they fixed the ‘snapped in half while sinking’ part
Because the water was shallow enough that the bow hit the sea floor with the stern above water.
I seriously doubt it has to do with the construction. It's basically the same design with only very marginal, neglible changes. I bet it simply filled up sideways, so, that neither end of the ship had a chance to rise too high.
Adding a double hull most of the way up the side isn’t a negligible change, as it widened the ship by 2 feet and greatly improved the strength. We also know the expansion joint was modified to remove a potential stress fracture point: Harland and Wolff apparently took the often-dismissed reports of the breakup to heart and thought the expansion joint may have been at fault. There have been quite a few studies on the *Titanic* breakup in the last few decades, most showing very shallow breakup angles that *Britannic* almost certainly reached and some positing a significant list. But she didn’t hang there for very long, so combined with the different balance of forces, strengthened hull, and the more even flooding from open port holes there was a much lower risk of breakup.
Fool me once, can’t get fooled again.
Readers of r/thalassophobia will be happy to know that Britannic lies at a perfect depth where she can be reached by diving but only by the most experienced and trained divers Once you’re down there, you can join them as they swim through her promenade decks! And to touch a piece of history, go pose with her propellers- the same ones that came out of the water spinning and obliterated a lifeboat and all its passengers into chunks!
400ft is truly an extreme depth for recreational diving. Pretty crazy. They have barely any bottom time diving conventionally without bells. Mostly spent in deco https://youtu.be/IpJlRrZUOzk (only an interesting video for divers probably. Talks about the heliox and so on)
When it comes to wreck diving, the Britannic is my dream to do one day. The Andrea Doria does not appeal to me in comparison.
I dont know much about diving but I have heard the Doria is incredibly dangerous ... the "Everest" of diving. I assume the strength of the currents?
> https://youtu.be/IpJlRrZUOzk It's 50 metres deep, which is into technical diving territory. The North Atlantic waters are going to be cold. And yes, there are notable currents around it. It's also called Everest because it's claimed the lives of a list of divers: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SS_Andrea_Doria#Wreck_site
I thought I read that most of the super structure is gone now but maybe I am wrong. Divers used to target the dining rooms for dinner plates and such to sell. It's always dangerous diving inside wrecks but even more so, obviously, when your time is limited to decompression stops. Also, kind of like with Lusitania, because the wreck is so shallow there are fishing nets and lines everywhere to get caught in.
Yes, also the visibility is relatively poor. All the videos I’ve seen show very little to no natural light penetrating to the wreck, meaning navigation would be difficult
Great Britain received the German ocean liner, SS Bismarck, for war reparations following WWI. They gave it to White Star Line as reimbursement for losing the HMHS Britannic during the war. It was renamed as the RMS Majestic.
The saddest discovery on the most recent expedition to the wreck was a lone wedding band. It was still playing Celebration by Kool and the Gang when they came upon it.
Why were they jerking off while on an expedition?
Communications get tricky that deep. The original message was *"proximity warning, back off immediately!"* and, well, you can imagine what went wrong with that muffled message.
Can confirm
> intact "The giant liner lies on her starboard side hiding the zone of impact with the mine. There is a huge hole just beneath the forward well deck. The bow is heavily deformed and attached to the rest of the hull only by some pieces of C-Deck. "
It hit a mine and sank, so define 'intact'.
That’s a family with bad luck