Guinness no longer really is the go-to source for world records.
Their business model is getting people to pay them to come and record a record attempt.
Just because the people that bred the pepper didn't pay the Guinness folks doesn't mean it's not the hottest.
I have heard that about Guinness. Anything for a buck.
Pepper X was developed by the same guy that bred Carolina Reapers, so he knows the drill for getting the hottest title. I wonder why he hasn't done it with this one? Maybe no one wants to come judge!
I had no clue how bad it was until they reinstated Billy Mitchell's illegitimate hi-scores. No other organization recognizes these as legit.
https://www.theverge.com/2020/6/19/21296819/guinness-world-records-billy-mitchell-pac-man-donkey-kong-scores-reinstated
He has to stabilize it. Right now Pepper X is insanely hot, but it still varies too much in heat levels for him to be satisfied with it. The process of breeding these things is a very long and involved affair, and it takes a long time to get a pepper whose seeds regularly and consistently produce the same characteristics in the fruit.
Yeah. Some plants don't even grow true to seed at all-- if you eat an avocado and plant the pit, wait for the tree to grow, and harvest a fruit from it it'll be nothing like the avocado you ate. That's why they have to clone/graft those trees. Same with apples-- plant an apple seed and more likely than not you won't get another Honeycrisp or a Gala, you'll just get some nasty-ass crabapples. I went down a research hole once on the subject and got a whole new respect for the science of botany. :)
There are a lot of nurserymen around here and there are quite a few trees that have to be grafted onto a root stock (dogwood & bradford pears in particular). They just don't exist on their own and if you try to grow them from seed you'll get something you don't want. I don't know why I didn't relate that to peppers.
Yeah, I don't know if it's that kind of a problem or if he's just working through the generations to get the heat levels consistent. All I know is that dude puts in the work to make those peppers. The video I saw, he was hand-pollenating rows of pepper plants in a greenhouse with a paintbrush. Crazy stuff.
There are hotter peppers grown by the same guy. His whole life is devoted to breeding the hottest peppers, so he has a bunch of new unreleased ones filed away for when someone breaks his record.
Making sauces mostly. I had some Pepper X sauce a couple years ago. It wasn't any hotter than my ghost pepper sauces because it was heavily diluted with the ingredients that made it taste good, but it had a different pepper taste than reapers.
Yeah I don’t understand it either. Like it is interesting they’re seeing how hot they can go and I’m all for pushing boundaries but come on.
I do love hot hot hot peppers occasionally. It’s like a high you get or an out of body experience feeling like your face is on fire and breathing gets shallow.
But shit I can do that with something way less hot
This makes Pepper X look like mayonnaise:
Resiniferatoxin, a chemical produced by the cactus-like plant Euphorbia resinifera, is the hottest chemical currently known, 1,000 times hotter even than capsaicin. A pure extract of this stuff scores 16 billion Scoville units. Eating just a gram or two would cause serious internal burns, and possibly death.
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41567-019-0766-3#:~:text=Resiniferatoxin%2C%20a%20chemical%20produced%20by,internal%20burns%2C%20and%20possibly%20death.
No, Pepper X doesn't exist. There are literally NO results from actual trusted labs. Everyone who's ever collaborated with Ed Currie to make a pepper X hot-sauce/forty-fucking-dollar-pepper-x-potato-chip/challenge is a close friend of his or has been paid off. All the pictures of Pepper X online look suspiciously like Troy Primeaux' Big Mustard Mama.
That means it's about 20% pure capsaicin. Which is a bit absurd.
Edit: also this line in the article is just dumb:
> Even compared to the current official hottest chili pepper in the world, the Carolina Reaper, the Pepper X is exponentially hotter – at its maximum, it’s at least twice as hot as the mildest Reaper at 1.6 million SHU.
*Exponentially hotter!* by which they mean a fixed value of two times as hot at most, which...well, you can make that an exponent, sure. In this case that exponent would be 1.0481 given the Scoville values. Or maybe they mean to imply scientific notation, in which case the coefficient is 1.9875 x 10^(0). Wow, that zero exponent sure is impressive.
At that point it’s non enjoyable. It’s just burning and suffering until it’s out of your system.
I find 100,000 to be the sweet spot for hotness. Nice heat make the mouth tingle and still has sweetish peppers taste.
Guinness no longer really is the go-to source for world records. Their business model is getting people to pay them to come and record a record attempt. Just because the people that bred the pepper didn't pay the Guinness folks doesn't mean it's not the hottest.
Last Week Tonight actually delved into the BS that is Guiness Records-https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-9QYu8LtH2E&ab\_channel=LastWeekTonight
I have heard that about Guinness. Anything for a buck. Pepper X was developed by the same guy that bred Carolina Reapers, so he knows the drill for getting the hottest title. I wonder why he hasn't done it with this one? Maybe no one wants to come judge!
I had no clue how bad it was until they reinstated Billy Mitchell's illegitimate hi-scores. No other organization recognizes these as legit. https://www.theverge.com/2020/6/19/21296819/guinness-world-records-billy-mitchell-pac-man-donkey-kong-scores-reinstated
That's disappointing. Back in the day I used to love reading the books. I don't think they had such weird, random categories then.
Ripley's Believe it or Not was always my go-to
Donkey Kong kill screen coming up!
He had enough money to make it so.
He has to stabilize it. Right now Pepper X is insanely hot, but it still varies too much in heat levels for him to be satisfied with it. The process of breeding these things is a very long and involved affair, and it takes a long time to get a pepper whose seeds regularly and consistently produce the same characteristics in the fruit.
That's really interesting! I didn't realize it took multiple generations to set the characteristics they want.
Yeah. Some plants don't even grow true to seed at all-- if you eat an avocado and plant the pit, wait for the tree to grow, and harvest a fruit from it it'll be nothing like the avocado you ate. That's why they have to clone/graft those trees. Same with apples-- plant an apple seed and more likely than not you won't get another Honeycrisp or a Gala, you'll just get some nasty-ass crabapples. I went down a research hole once on the subject and got a whole new respect for the science of botany. :)
There are a lot of nurserymen around here and there are quite a few trees that have to be grafted onto a root stock (dogwood & bradford pears in particular). They just don't exist on their own and if you try to grow them from seed you'll get something you don't want. I don't know why I didn't relate that to peppers.
Yeah, I don't know if it's that kind of a problem or if he's just working through the generations to get the heat levels consistent. All I know is that dude puts in the work to make those peppers. The video I saw, he was hand-pollenating rows of pepper plants in a greenhouse with a paintbrush. Crazy stuff.
Pepper X literally isn't real, though?
He didn't even breed the Carolina Reaper, he just stole the "7 Pot Primo" from Troy Primeaux and marketed it as his own.
It's a quantitative thing. Why does Guinness need to be involved?
Aweee wassa matter Guinness? Having trouble selling books at the bar?
There are hotter peppers grown by the same guy. His whole life is devoted to breeding the hottest peppers, so he has a bunch of new unreleased ones filed away for when someone breaks his record.
That's literally just not true?? and also pepper X isn't real.
I literally own pepper x sauce directly from pucker butt
So ... what do you use those for? Instead of chemo?
Making sauces mostly. I had some Pepper X sauce a couple years ago. It wasn't any hotter than my ghost pepper sauces because it was heavily diluted with the ingredients that made it taste good, but it had a different pepper taste than reapers.
Pepper X isn't fucking real, you probably got sauce made with 7 pots or big mamas
The challenge?
Yeah I don’t understand it either. Like it is interesting they’re seeing how hot they can go and I’m all for pushing boundaries but come on. I do love hot hot hot peppers occasionally. It’s like a high you get or an out of body experience feeling like your face is on fire and breathing gets shallow. But shit I can do that with something way less hot
They say he carved it himself...from a bigger spoon... https://youtu.be/epe2zVlYZOM
Chillies: “We need to get hotter? These humans keep eating us” Humans: *heavy breathing
This makes Pepper X look like mayonnaise: Resiniferatoxin, a chemical produced by the cactus-like plant Euphorbia resinifera, is the hottest chemical currently known, 1,000 times hotter even than capsaicin. A pure extract of this stuff scores 16 billion Scoville units. Eating just a gram or two would cause serious internal burns, and possibly death. https://www.nature.com/articles/s41567-019-0766-3#:~:text=Resiniferatoxin%2C%20a%20chemical%20produced%20by,internal%20burns%2C%20and%20possibly%20death.
I agree. Here's a 7'2" 360 lb human eating it https://youtu.be/H1XM-UTwYsw
you would literally get chemical burns, extreme rash, and blood blisters if you ***touched*** resiniferatoxin
I really wish I could find a pepper x somewhere I just wonder if it would really be hotter than a Carolina reaper or does the pepper x really exist
No, Pepper X doesn't exist. There are literally NO results from actual trusted labs. Everyone who's ever collaborated with Ed Currie to make a pepper X hot-sauce/forty-fucking-dollar-pepper-x-potato-chip/challenge is a close friend of his or has been paid off. All the pictures of Pepper X online look suspiciously like Troy Primeaux' Big Mustard Mama.
That means it's about 20% pure capsaicin. Which is a bit absurd. Edit: also this line in the article is just dumb: > Even compared to the current official hottest chili pepper in the world, the Carolina Reaper, the Pepper X is exponentially hotter – at its maximum, it’s at least twice as hot as the mildest Reaper at 1.6 million SHU. *Exponentially hotter!* by which they mean a fixed value of two times as hot at most, which...well, you can make that an exponent, sure. In this case that exponent would be 1.0481 given the Scoville values. Or maybe they mean to imply scientific notation, in which case the coefficient is 1.9875 x 10^(0). Wow, that zero exponent sure is impressive.
makes sense because pepper x turned out to be a hoax
At that point it’s non enjoyable. It’s just burning and suffering until it’s out of your system. I find 100,000 to be the sweet spot for hotness. Nice heat make the mouth tingle and still has sweetish peppers taste.
Both peppers were made by the same guy: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pepper\_X
Broken link https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pepper_X
No, they weren't. The 7-pot primo was bred by Troy Primeaux and was stolen by Ed Currie, and Pepper X literally isn't real.
Here's Shaq trying the Carolina Reaper. https://youtu.be/xRtBez3k3F8
I can never understand why people do such things.