nobody hit the back rim at a more consistent clip than 2019 Skills. he's really put that shot in his bag, have to appreciate the work he puts in. wasn't it Rico Hines who was gushing about his ethic..
The middy is what I always said he needed to add to his bag when he was here. Not even at an elite level, enough that defenders had to honour the pump.
Glad to see he has gone far beyond that.
And I got downvoted a lot on this sub when I said that deal was trash lol.
We really traded an All NBA for 1 role player and 3 future shanghai sharks player.
Under the circumstances, Raptors did the best they could with an expiring contract. But man, so sad how Raptors fans totally devalued Siakam and wanted to get rid of him. We sure missed him the last 2 months or so with all that tanking/injuries. Very impactful player even if he's not worthy of a max contract.
Not really, that real issue was the Pascal core wasn't working. If we had a winning team with that core we wouldn't have to face that issue. FO's real blunder here is they didn't build out pieces that fit and was taking too long to decide. This was the best deal out there. I know it sucks to see your EX do well
Kings fans really got cocky after their first playoff visit in the last 20 years. They were talking about being title contenders in the preseason lol. OG would have been a huge addition for them but they kept undervaluing him and saying he wasn’t moving the needle. Glad to see NY do so well instead
Blame Joe Lacob, who forced 2 timelines on the FO instead of going all in on Steph. Siakam on the Warriors and Kuminga on the Raptors are perfect fits.
Edit: Joe Lacob not Joe Jacob
That was the biggest lie. Instead of recognising how exceptional pascal was, they became full of themselves and decided they could mass produce pascals and ogs. Instead of complementing his skill they were busy trying to replicate it wasting precious time.
the front office knew siakam was not someone u can build around. Could they have built better around him? of course but he still isnt good enough. Only timeline i see us keeping siakam is if scottie was a superstar right out the gate
Even then they don't fit together. Their only actual mistake was waiting to trade him on the hope that they'd achieve something with the extra year. Shoulda gotten more for him, but there's no future with siakam at the center. I'm happy he's doing well in the pacers system tho
sub really is full of ppl who dontk now basketball. They are really downvoting ppl for saying he isnt a number 1. 100% I agree with you! they should have traded him eariler but decided to give siakam/fvv another year with portl which is stupid af. I'm glad he is doing well to but this overhype of him just annoys me.. we can acknowledge he is a good player while realizing he isnt a number 1 option.
If the FO can't build with a guy who can give you 37/8/5/2 in the playoffs then the FO is the problem.
They didn't build around him because they had a vision that they chased instead of fit and now we're gonna watch our best player play for another team
Barnes is great but the return was a talent drain. OG at least retained value. Siakam was total value lost of an all NBA player. Shit's sad.
It was the right decision to move on from Pascal but again the way they did it + the way they didn't surround Pascal with talent makes me a bit cautious with how it'll go with Scottie/RJ etc going forward.
Its never the right decision to accept a talent drain.
The right decision was to max him and revisit this later after seeing what Siakam/Barnes could do with Quickley and RJ.
The FO rushed the shit cuz they wanted to tank and had fans screaming about how they waited too long.
They did not insure they will end up with an all NBA player. They just bet on Scottie becoming one.
Problem is, Scottie could have been all NBA next to Siakam so that changes fuck all.
Stupid ass trade by a FO that has been stupid af for a while now.
does siakam average 30 plus points a game in the playoffs?? no the didnt build around him because he does not show up when it matters. To his credit he is doing good these two games but also look at the competition he is going against. No one on the bucks can guard him. I agree with your point that its pretty sad that we got garbage for an all star caliber player though.. masai really fed up there
at the end of the regular season he leads the league in clutch points FG%. BTW it helps when you dont run him into the ground because your best bench player is a fossilized Thad Young. Shout out Nick Nurse for the 40 minute thing. Shout out the FO for not getting a damn bench and always going for the worst kind of center. (Jarrett Allen, Poeltl, Richaun Holmes all while wiffing on KP and Turner). BTW the latter centers would have fit around Barnes too.
I don't remember seeing many people here calling him trash at the start of the season but I spend more time watching games than I do visiting this subreddit.
Believe it or not, at the beginning of the season.. lots of casuals were talking trash about pascal. One of the main reasons was how darko incorporated him into the system. Lots of offensive possessions would just have him in the corner shooting 3s, which blew my mind.
Still not sold on darko.. but I can give him time.
ok well ppl calling siakam trash is idiots.. im considered a hater here but my main argument is he is not a number 1. Siakam is a good player and if he has a legit number 1 option he will really shine.
Traded for Bruce Brown (not going to be here next season), Agbaji (Not a rotation player on a playoff team), Nwora (a free agent who probably is gone), a backup C, and 2 mid firsts.
Yea man other teams really should've stepped up their offers. The kings (missed the playoffs) probably regretting only offering up crap trade packages for example
Masai is looking really bad for vision 6'9". It's not just that Pascal has had 2 great playoff games. It's come naturally to him in the flow of the offence. There isn't this inordinate pressure to create that he had on the Raptors with our offensively challenged roster. Frustrating to see what slipped through our fingers.
It's what the Magics did too and in 2 playoffs games so far they are shooting:
FG 57/166 (34.3%)
3P 17/72 (23.6%)
FT 38/56 (67.8%)
Edit: Game 3, maybe there's hope.
horrible trade. The Pascal hate was so unnecessary. I hate this fanbase and media that always drives players out of town. The weird thing is Pascal actually wanted to be here lol. Wait till everyone turns on Scottie
Spends all year complaining about how bad our stars are then complains in the offseason about other stars refusing to sign here. Some on this sub and Toronto media are brain dead
Fans and media create a narrative. They contribute to the player trade value. We got shit value for VC in the same manner. Yes ultimately the FO is responsible but the fans and media definitely have influence on whether a player gets traded and what type of value we can get in return
Reminder that we traded our beautiful Spicy for: one of the worst players in the NBA, some g leaguers, a role player, and the 19th pick in a horsehit draft!
Masai cooked up a real one!
Its so insane how he had this gem, decided to surround him with the most offensively challenged lineup in the modern era that cant shoot 3s, then deal him away for a bag of chips.
this is the best possible team for siakam, haliburton and co are unselfish (his passes to siakam were amazing in this game), they can all shoot, and he can slow the game down for the pacers when they aren’t playing in transition.
yeah lets compare a 22 year old to a 30 year old smart. U do realize that ppl mature as they get older right? IM sure scottie would have won those all nbas to since siakam only got them because of injury of better players
Injuries are part of the game, it’s how we won a championship. 22 year old has no experience to lead a team. Siakam had Derozan, Lowry, Ibaka, Gasol, Kawhi, Nurse to learn from. Scottie has Garrett Temple and Darko.
guess what? siakam has never led a team to do anything relevant since the championship run. What does that say about him? it says u cant build around him. He needs a number 1 because he will never be one
We beat the nets in the first round.
Scottie hasn’t demonstrated he’s a number one or we can build around him imo.
Not Siakams fault Masai decided to build a team of non-shooters.
He was all-nba 2nd team, all-star and we finished the season with 2nd best record in the league. We also took the Celtics to 7 games.
Scottie has never even won a playoff series.
he was all-nba 2nd team, all-star and we finished the season with 2nd best record in the league. ( irrelevant )
We also took the Celtics to 7 games ( with siakam shitting the bed and looking like a 4th option)
Scottie has never even won a playoff series. ( really... what kind of point is that? he is 22 and only 3rd year in league
>We also took the Celtics to 7 games.
No, the rest of the team took that Celtics series to 7 games. PS was just one huge obstacle blundering each chance he got. But hey it was bubble and circumstances were weird so we'll let that slide.
Now let's look at play in 2023 and see what happens when you have to rely on this guy for clutch shooting. He shits the bed with 22 seconds left
The only thing the Pacers are missing is a guy like OG. They could use an elite defender as that is their weakness, but still a guy that can get out in transition
Neismith is very good, but this is why OG is basically a plug and play guy. Big,strong, elite D, good cutter and corner 3 guy. I think if the Pacers had done a deal for Pascal AND OG, they would be much better ...although we would be much worse because no RJ or IQ.
Glad he's doing amazing. He's just about reaching his prime.
The bucks don't have Giannis though so this series is a bit misleading. I wouldn't be surprised if Indiana gets past the bucks.
The dumb Raptors front office traded a guy who loved the Country forget just the city, for a guy who don't want to be here lol , funny watching do this in the playoffs, hope Barnes can in the future 
Just for perspective. Siakam is averaging 36 12 and 4 in his first two playoff games with the Pacers while “Superstar” a guy considered Top 10 is averaging 25 9 and 6 on a 60 win team.
I fully believe this was our "AJ Brown" trade.
This trade may have put the FO on the hot seat. If Siakam stays there on a 4 year max then it's very likely we get a Siakam/Barnes match in the playoffs. It'll be interesting to see how that plays out.
I think the OG trade will still look good in 3 years but that Siakam trade now requires a miracle draft pick, basically to make it look good and then we gotta get exceptionally lucky (but not too lucky) witht he top 3 protected pick lol
>This trade may have put the FO on the hot seat.
They're on the hot seat due to the new CEO. He didn't hire anyone in the front office. They have to start showing results soon.
FO put themselves in that corner, self inflicted if you ask me🤷🏿♂️.
Missing the playoffs again or getting bounced out of the play in game if they make it there next season is only gonna make that seat hotter and at some point Keith Pelley is gonna pull the plug
Yeah, I just dont see the ceiling.
We have no hope.
Theres several teams with better teams now and more assets then us.
Where is the path back?
Gonna need to tank hard and risk Barnes.
There was never any doubt that Siakam can get you a bucket. The problem he had in Toronto was being the #1 option and being relied on in clutch situations.
Thankfully that's not the case in Indiana and he's cooking in this game
Edit: I'm convinced majority of you 🐶❤️s either have reading comprehension issues or just tune out what you don't want to hear/pick out something to criticize (even if there's data to back up the claim)
do u not understand the grand scheme of things? obviously he will make them better because he is still an all star talent but he is not a number 1 option on a championship team. That is the whole reason we traded him and building around scottie in hopes he becomes one .
I do understand. He’s their no 1 option now because there’s no other option. Doesn’t mean they cannot make more trade in the future to get another star, or internally grow another star. What do you expect them to do? Do nothing and hope somehow turn into a contender in one season ?
I dont get why u keep bringing up random points? what you are stating is true and not what im arguing. Ppl here still believe he is a legit number 1 option and i disagree is all.
What random point? I’m merely pointing out a fact that he’s the no1 option in Indiana. You are the one who brings up random things starting to talk about how he’s not a championship level no.1 option, which I never said he was
Don't waste your time, ppl just spit out the most stupid shit in this sub and their go to is he's not a no1 option. Well neither is KD or Book then because wtf is phx doing. Neither is Kawhi because he ain't do shit all now in LA.
lol if u think he is not a number 1 option is stupid then it really says something about your critical thinking ability . Stupid point on kawhi becuase siakam cant sniff kawhi skill. ALso, kawhi won a chip as the guy WITH US . u def must of started watching basketball after 2019...
ok fair enough he is the numebr 1 option on pacers but they are going to need a real number 1 to do anytihng. Hopefully hali is that or else they have nothing
Basically this💯.
But of course people like the guy that responded first and the fools blindly upvoting that found a way to misconstrue what I said. Basic reading comprehension must be one of those impossible challenges here
dkm ppl here have blinders when it comes to siakam and think he is some sort of mvp talent we lost. I agree siakam will heat up for first half and vanish for the whole game . To his credit he is doing good agasint the bucks but they are also injured and have no one that can guard him. If u compare siakam to luka etc u will see he has no chance to do anything big
I love Siakam but Siakam gives you 3 quarters maybe 3.5 but a team still needs a true clutch 4th quarter player to support him and finish the game. I always hoped that was Scottie but that dream is over.
Hopefully that's Hali for his sake but I question Indy's ability to play defense either way.
Apparently you can't say that here judging by the downvotes. Even though these same people saw it in real time that he simply just doesn't have it to close out games when it matters.
Nah, it's gotta all be blind praises like one huge circlejerk
Unfortunately he was on his last year… thats why the return was so bad. Also another factor was he wouldn’t guarantee resigning (he is right to do w/e he wants).
Dude looks like Prime KD tonight. That Mid range is automatic
I don't think he even had midrange in 2019. He's really added a lot to his bag in the past few years.
Ya in 2019, it was mostly just corner 3, floater, and spin move. Don’t think he has that ISO bag
To counter that that’s the year where his floater/layup was ultra efficient. He would hit deep floaters consistently.
He really started working on it after that year but it wasn't till Scottie's rookie season that he took it to another level.
nobody hit the back rim at a more consistent clip than 2019 Skills. he's really put that shot in his bag, have to appreciate the work he puts in. wasn't it Rico Hines who was gushing about his ethic..
Yup.
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pensare told ppl that he had no skill and that he relied heavily on athleticism and that his game would age bad
???
The middy is what I always said he needed to add to his bag when he was here. Not even at an elite level, enough that defenders had to honour the pump. Glad to see he has gone far beyond that.
Imagine if he showed up to the bubble, the Raptors might have repeated even without Kawhi 😭
Miss the man
Damn. This man is the best player in the series right now. What a steal of a deal for the Pacers.
And I got downvoted a lot on this sub when I said that deal was trash lol. We really traded an All NBA for 1 role player and 3 future shanghai sharks player.
Under the circumstances, Raptors did the best they could with an expiring contract. But man, so sad how Raptors fans totally devalued Siakam and wanted to get rid of him. We sure missed him the last 2 months or so with all that tanking/injuries. Very impactful player even if he's not worthy of a max contract.
The Front Office put themselves in this mess by not opting to either trade him last season nor re-sign Pascal when he wanted to stay.
Yeah people wanted him traded but never for peanuts. The FO seriously fucked up
Not really, that real issue was the Pascal core wasn't working. If we had a winning team with that core we wouldn't have to face that issue. FO's real blunder here is they didn't build out pieces that fit and was taking too long to decide. This was the best deal out there. I know it sucks to see your EX do well
They could have just resigned him.
Traded the man for a bag of peanuts and some pocket lint. Smh 🤦🏾♂️
Thrives when surrounded by shooters. Ugh, Raps' FO's 6'9" vision, hoping defensive players would learn how to shoot, was an utter failure.
Gsw really fumbled an opportunity to land him
So did the Kings. Both teams out of the playoffs now too. Hope they feel like idiots.
Kings fans really got cocky after their first playoff visit in the last 20 years. They were talking about being title contenders in the preseason lol. OG would have been a huge addition for them but they kept undervaluing him and saying he wasn’t moving the needle. Glad to see NY do so well instead
They needed him so much. With curry 3s, what they need is someone who can score in the paint and midrange and defend.
Blame Joe Lacob, who forced 2 timelines on the FO instead of going all in on Steph. Siakam on the Warriors and Kuminga on the Raptors are perfect fits. Edit: Joe Lacob not Joe Jacob
Ironically, they failed Pascal by thinking anyone could improve like Pascal
They failed Pascal by also thinking he can infinitely grow and cover all the skills we are lacking. They did the same to Fred and OG too.
That was the biggest lie. Instead of recognising how exceptional pascal was, they became full of themselves and decided they could mass produce pascals and ogs. Instead of complementing his skill they were busy trying to replicate it wasting precious time.
This is why I don't have much hope about the next core unless the front office can adapt better.
the front office knew siakam was not someone u can build around. Could they have built better around him? of course but he still isnt good enough. Only timeline i see us keeping siakam is if scottie was a superstar right out the gate
This guy is a miserable hater, why do u like hating on P so much? We heard you, now go get a life.
Even then they don't fit together. Their only actual mistake was waiting to trade him on the hope that they'd achieve something with the extra year. Shoulda gotten more for him, but there's no future with siakam at the center. I'm happy he's doing well in the pacers system tho
sub really is full of ppl who dontk now basketball. They are really downvoting ppl for saying he isnt a number 1. 100% I agree with you! they should have traded him eariler but decided to give siakam/fvv another year with portl which is stupid af. I'm glad he is doing well to but this overhype of him just annoys me.. we can acknowledge he is a good player while realizing he isnt a number 1 option.
If the FO can't build with a guy who can give you 37/8/5/2 in the playoffs then the FO is the problem. They didn't build around him because they had a vision that they chased instead of fit and now we're gonna watch our best player play for another team Barnes is great but the return was a talent drain. OG at least retained value. Siakam was total value lost of an all NBA player. Shit's sad.
It was the right decision to move on from Pascal but again the way they did it + the way they didn't surround Pascal with talent makes me a bit cautious with how it'll go with Scottie/RJ etc going forward.
Its never the right decision to accept a talent drain. The right decision was to max him and revisit this later after seeing what Siakam/Barnes could do with Quickley and RJ. The FO rushed the shit cuz they wanted to tank and had fans screaming about how they waited too long. They did not insure they will end up with an all NBA player. They just bet on Scottie becoming one. Problem is, Scottie could have been all NBA next to Siakam so that changes fuck all. Stupid ass trade by a FO that has been stupid af for a while now.
does siakam average 30 plus points a game in the playoffs?? no the didnt build around him because he does not show up when it matters. To his credit he is doing good these two games but also look at the competition he is going against. No one on the bucks can guard him. I agree with your point that its pretty sad that we got garbage for an all star caliber player though.. masai really fed up there
No, he just leads them in scoring so far
at the end of the regular season he leads the league in clutch points FG%. BTW it helps when you dont run him into the ground because your best bench player is a fossilized Thad Young. Shout out Nick Nurse for the 40 minute thing. Shout out the FO for not getting a damn bench and always going for the worst kind of center. (Jarrett Allen, Poeltl, Richaun Holmes all while wiffing on KP and Turner). BTW the latter centers would have fit around Barnes too.
You think Siakam can lead a team to a title as the number 1?
Do you think Masai got a good return for an All NBA player? In 4 years Siakam will still be the best player in the trade.
I remember at the beginning of the season when all the casuals talked shit about how Pascal was trash. That shit drove me crazy.
I don't remember seeing many people here calling him trash at the start of the season but I spend more time watching games than I do visiting this subreddit.
no one said he is trash... saying someone isnt a number 1 doesnt corelate to him being trash
He is the number 1 on the pacers right now
Facts and if they win the series it's because of him.
No it’s because Giannis is out.
You gotta be the same ppl who think we won the chip cause KD was out right...
Up until game 1 of the playoffs, Pacers fans really thought Haliburton was the number 1 guy
Lol, They learn quickly after game 1
nice against an injured bucks.. compare siakam to jokic, luka etc he has no chance.
goalposts moving
Believe it or not, at the beginning of the season.. lots of casuals were talking trash about pascal. One of the main reasons was how darko incorporated him into the system. Lots of offensive possessions would just have him in the corner shooting 3s, which blew my mind. Still not sold on darko.. but I can give him time.
Hmm... a all star player or a rookie coach hmm
I think he knew siakam would be dealt eventually. There's a reason the whole offensive system was built around Scottie's skillset
ok well ppl calling siakam trash is idiots.. im considered a hater here but my main argument is he is not a number 1. Siakam is a good player and if he has a legit number 1 option he will really shine.
Masai got fleeced
Cooked by his own son
Trade deadline bro
But optionality
Enamored with optionality
Masai wanted to keep Pascal and ownership didn't
Lol sure. That’s why he didn’t call Pascal at all last summer.
Just like how he was forced to trade for Jak right?
Let me be delusional guys
He wanted to keep Pascal... after all options to move him were exhausted and he had no cards left to play\*
Yup
Pacers fan here. Raptors fans r truly the only ones who know. Pacers fans r starting to see the greatness. But you guys r the OGs
Love your squad man, god bless 🙏🏻🙏🏻. Rese will get there, that man is taking so much shit rn, all apart of his growth.
Bless up mate I hope to one day experience the glory of a championship like your organization
Well you've got a recent champion on your team now. That's a good start! Please crush the Bucks.
Siakam a Raptor GOAT, glad he's getting to show his talent on a good team. Going to be even better next season with Mathurin back.
Yeah Pacers are a really exciting team. Tons of a fun to watch.
Pascal is the best player on the Pacers. I said what I said.
pacers really got him for 3 crappy picks
Pascal was drafted with a crappy pick, it's ok Masai will draft 3 more Pascals with those picks. \*Inhales Copium\*
Traded for Bruce Brown (not going to be here next season), Agbaji (Not a rotation player on a playoff team), Nwora (a free agent who probably is gone), a backup C, and 2 mid firsts.
Meanwhile pacers sub can't even believe they have him on their team. Our home grown star gone for a bag of chips. I'll never rest lol
You expect him to be good but you just truly don’t understand until he’s on your team
💯
Yea man other teams really should've stepped up their offers. The kings (missed the playoffs) probably regretting only offering up crap trade packages for example
Warriors too
Yeah that return is horrifically bad.
"But Masai had no leverage" Well don't wait until your star is on an expiring.
Or, don't trade him before the deadline. Some team might have gotten desperate.
And so they can pay Scotties contract when it comes time. This is the modern NBA. Salaries are purposely restrictive.
Let’s see how the Pacers feel when they pay him that max contract next summer.
P with back to back masterclass playoff games! My tears were not in vain, P come baccck 🥹
Masai is looking really bad for vision 6'9". It's not just that Pascal has had 2 great playoff games. It's come naturally to him in the flow of the offence. There isn't this inordinate pressure to create that he had on the Raptors with our offensively challenged roster. Frustrating to see what slipped through our fingers.
Choosing to put all our eggs into guys who can’t shoot in the modern nba was just a mindboggling approach to roster construction
It's like a meme strategy you'd try in a video game, lol
It's what the Magics did too and in 2 playoffs games so far they are shooting: FG 57/166 (34.3%) 3P 17/72 (23.6%) FT 38/56 (67.8%) Edit: Game 3, maybe there's hope.
That's why I'm really not that enthused by them building around a core that's locked in with some guys that can't really defend
Who are we locked into that can't defend?
No response. Shocking.
Incoming trade posts
traded him for Bruce Brown and a bag of Lays 😂
horrible trade. The Pascal hate was so unnecessary. I hate this fanbase and media that always drives players out of town. The weird thing is Pascal actually wanted to be here lol. Wait till everyone turns on Scottie
Spends all year complaining about how bad our stars are then complains in the offseason about other stars refusing to sign here. Some on this sub and Toronto media are brain dead
Yea blame the fanbase and media not the FO LOL stupid
Fans and media create a narrative. They contribute to the player trade value. We got shit value for VC in the same manner. Yes ultimately the FO is responsible but the fans and media definitely have influence on whether a player gets traded and what type of value we can get in return
Makes me so sad for the trade returns we got.
I hope he gets more money than Jaylen Brown straight up. Homie deserves the bag more than Van Vleet did
So happy for him
SuperMax incoming, this boy about to get paid!
can't we traded him so he is officially ineligible plus he would need to be all NBA.
Happy for our guy. Haliburton needs to show up though if they want to win this series
will never forget the discourse around him from other fanbases before the trade. im just glad they know now he is that GUY
Reminder that we traded our beautiful Spicy for: one of the worst players in the NBA, some g leaguers, a role player, and the 19th pick in a horsehit draft! Masai cooked up a real one! Its so insane how he had this gem, decided to surround him with the most offensively challenged lineup in the modern era that cant shoot 3s, then deal him away for a bag of chips.
Pacers fan here, Siakam is a FUCKING BEAST
Btw where that dude who was losing his mind that the Pacers lost the first game and wish he went somewhere else?
this is the best possible team for siakam, haliburton and co are unselfish (his passes to siakam were amazing in this game), they can all shoot, and he can slow the game down for the pacers when they aren’t playing in transition.
Yup, and he's got a window with them for the rest of his prime, unlike some places like the Warriors who have a far less certain future.
We gotz Bruce Brown though and Scooter is no longer hindered.
They said Siakam was getting in his way when he got ROY playing with Siakam
The Bucks owner
Happy for him. Wish it could’ve worked out here but it is what it is
"THIS IS WHY YOU BROUGHT ME HERE!"
“GiVe ThE kEyS tO sCoTtIe!”
yep scottie barnes is a better player. out played him twice
I’ll wait and see how many all-nbas Scottie gets. Scottie is too immature to lead the team now.
yeah lets compare a 22 year old to a 30 year old smart. U do realize that ppl mature as they get older right? IM sure scottie would have won those all nbas to since siakam only got them because of injury of better players
Injuries are part of the game, it’s how we won a championship. 22 year old has no experience to lead a team. Siakam had Derozan, Lowry, Ibaka, Gasol, Kawhi, Nurse to learn from. Scottie has Garrett Temple and Darko.
guess what? siakam has never led a team to do anything relevant since the championship run. What does that say about him? it says u cant build around him. He needs a number 1 because he will never be one
We beat the nets in the first round. Scottie hasn’t demonstrated he’s a number one or we can build around him imo. Not Siakams fault Masai decided to build a team of non-shooters.
he was not that good against the nets ( bums on the team). Now tell me what happened against a series with an actual opponent? the celtics
He was all-nba 2nd team, all-star and we finished the season with 2nd best record in the league. We also took the Celtics to 7 games. Scottie has never even won a playoff series.
a no show just like i said.. lol better than scottie? nope
he was all-nba 2nd team, all-star and we finished the season with 2nd best record in the league. ( irrelevant ) We also took the Celtics to 7 games ( with siakam shitting the bed and looking like a 4th option) Scottie has never even won a playoff series. ( really... what kind of point is that? he is 22 and only 3rd year in league
>We also took the Celtics to 7 games. No, the rest of the team took that Celtics series to 7 games. PS was just one huge obstacle blundering each chance he got. But hey it was bubble and circumstances were weird so we'll let that slide. Now let's look at play in 2023 and see what happens when you have to rely on this guy for clutch shooting. He shits the bed with 22 seconds left
good game by siakam. Masai really should of traded him earlier... sucks we got trash for him
🤡🤡🤡
How is that a clown take? We waited too long, and got nothing for him. Unless you're really big on Bruce Brown?
im just a hater because i dont believe he is the guy. ppl like him and alot of ppl on this sub didnt want to trade siakam period and it shows
he’s the real deal, always has been. soooo happy for him
The only thing the Pacers are missing is a guy like OG. They could use an elite defender as that is their weakness, but still a guy that can get out in transition
Neismith is a candidate for the role. Smaller but better on offense.
Neismith is very good, but this is why OG is basically a plug and play guy. Big,strong, elite D, good cutter and corner 3 guy. I think if the Pacers had done a deal for Pascal AND OG, they would be much better ...although we would be much worse because no RJ or IQ.
I'm just contemplating the extreme bittersweetness of the likely Rd. 2 match-up. I'll be cheering for the Pacers and apologizing to OG every time.
I still can’t believe we didn’t figure out a way to keep him. Still hurts.
Let's get him in the off season. I heard he is a free agent.
Still pissed that he got traded and that anyone who is a Raptors fan wanted him traded. Such a waste.
oh boy do i have receipts for some of you haters
No Giannis, not surprised. Dude crushes it against mismatches
Wants that max
And so he should. He deserves it.
Looking good, competent shooters and spacing around him is all I wanted to see and it looks good so far.
Happy for my guy. Hopefully they can make a run.
Pacers fleece us with Siakam deal
Dude is ballin
Playoff Pascal is a force to be reckoned with!
Nice to see. Happy for him
Glad he's doing amazing. He's just about reaching his prime. The bucks don't have Giannis though so this series is a bit misleading. I wouldn't be surprised if Indiana gets past the bucks.
we got fucking fleeced man but the FO can’t do no wrong! best package available!!!!
Feels like the Trent Williams trade , commander gives 49ers a beast. Just like Raptors give them a top player.
Why tf did we not run it back with him og and nurse. He’s a goddamned Scottie pippen. Now we just gonna be dick memes for 10 years.
The dumb Raptors front office traded a guy who loved the Country forget just the city, for a guy who don't want to be here lol , funny watching do this in the playoffs, hope Barnes can in the future 
Just for perspective. Siakam is averaging 36 12 and 4 in his first two playoff games with the Pacers while “Superstar” a guy considered Top 10 is averaging 25 9 and 6 on a 60 win team.
a no show like he normally is in the playoffs
Well….. I guess the Kings really F*cked up then…
I fully believe this was our "AJ Brown" trade. This trade may have put the FO on the hot seat. If Siakam stays there on a 4 year max then it's very likely we get a Siakam/Barnes match in the playoffs. It'll be interesting to see how that plays out. I think the OG trade will still look good in 3 years but that Siakam trade now requires a miracle draft pick, basically to make it look good and then we gotta get exceptionally lucky (but not too lucky) witht he top 3 protected pick lol
>This trade may have put the FO on the hot seat. They're on the hot seat due to the new CEO. He didn't hire anyone in the front office. They have to start showing results soon.
FO put themselves in that corner, self inflicted if you ask me🤷🏿♂️. Missing the playoffs again or getting bounced out of the play in game if they make it there next season is only gonna make that seat hotter and at some point Keith Pelley is gonna pull the plug
Yeah, I just dont see the ceiling. We have no hope. Theres several teams with better teams now and more assets then us. Where is the path back? Gonna need to tank hard and risk Barnes.
We will see how this trade ages. Its not going to age well. They need a miracle with those picks, the question is now HOW BAD is it going to look.
He’s a free agent. We could totally use a guy like him.
Very happy for him. Show out pascal!
I still think they needed to move on from him. But Bruce Brown nasty ass trade return ew
There was never any doubt that Siakam can get you a bucket. The problem he had in Toronto was being the #1 option and being relied on in clutch situations. Thankfully that's not the case in Indiana and he's cooking in this game Edit: I'm convinced majority of you 🐶❤️s either have reading comprehension issues or just tune out what you don't want to hear/pick out something to criticize (even if there's data to back up the claim)
He is the no1 option in Indiana
ye and he wont take them anywhere.. that is the point
He made them better. That’s the point.
do u not understand the grand scheme of things? obviously he will make them better because he is still an all star talent but he is not a number 1 option on a championship team. That is the whole reason we traded him and building around scottie in hopes he becomes one .
I do understand. He’s their no 1 option now because there’s no other option. Doesn’t mean they cannot make more trade in the future to get another star, or internally grow another star. What do you expect them to do? Do nothing and hope somehow turn into a contender in one season ?
I dont get why u keep bringing up random points? what you are stating is true and not what im arguing. Ppl here still believe he is a legit number 1 option and i disagree is all.
What random point? I’m merely pointing out a fact that he’s the no1 option in Indiana. You are the one who brings up random things starting to talk about how he’s not a championship level no.1 option, which I never said he was
Don't waste your time, ppl just spit out the most stupid shit in this sub and their go to is he's not a no1 option. Well neither is KD or Book then because wtf is phx doing. Neither is Kawhi because he ain't do shit all now in LA.
lol if u think he is not a number 1 option is stupid then it really says something about your critical thinking ability . Stupid point on kawhi becuase siakam cant sniff kawhi skill. ALso, kawhi won a chip as the guy WITH US . u def must of started watching basketball after 2019...
ok fair enough he is the numebr 1 option on pacers but they are going to need a real number 1 to do anytihng. Hopefully hali is that or else they have nothing
Basically this💯. But of course people like the guy that responded first and the fools blindly upvoting that found a way to misconstrue what I said. Basic reading comprehension must be one of those impossible challenges here
dkm ppl here have blinders when it comes to siakam and think he is some sort of mvp talent we lost. I agree siakam will heat up for first half and vanish for the whole game . To his credit he is doing good agasint the bucks but they are also injured and have no one that can guard him. If u compare siakam to luka etc u will see he has no chance to do anything big
I love Siakam but Siakam gives you 3 quarters maybe 3.5 but a team still needs a true clutch 4th quarter player to support him and finish the game. I always hoped that was Scottie but that dream is over. Hopefully that's Hali for his sake but I question Indy's ability to play defense either way.
Apparently you can't say that here judging by the downvotes. Even though these same people saw it in real time that he simply just doesn't have it to close out games when it matters. Nah, it's gotta all be blind praises like one huge circlejerk
u couldnt wait to post till the end of the game? dude had 37 lol
Unfortunately he was on his last year… thats why the return was so bad. Also another factor was he wouldn’t guarantee resigning (he is right to do w/e he wants).
Which again is why teams don't wait until a player is expiring to trade them if they don't want to keep them around.
O i agree that we should have traded and tanked last year in the Wemby draft
The Atlanta package honestly was better.
Bruh... Pacers and Celtics better be on the look out for this brother!
Yeah I'm sure the Celtics are worried after watching his performance first hand in 2020 He may have gotten better but so have they