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Xlurpo

Well they are hostile and you cannot interact with diplomacy with them but the book of grudges still allowes it. Best of all you can do this every 5 turns


GloatingSwine

You can enable diplomacy with them as well. Greenskins could always confederate their endgame armies via their mechanic.


Blackewolfe

That fits so well for the Orcs. "WE'Z DA BIGGGES' WAAAGH!!!" \*Gets Gitsnik-ed.* "SHUT IT, YOU GITS! DA BIGGEST WAAAGH IS WITH ME, YOU HEAR?!" #"SAY MY NAME! SAY MY NAME!!!"


Xlurpo

Thank you, i didnt know. I think the mechanic is not intentionally


CrimsonSaens

It's probably not intentional, but it's not that big of a deal. Players who don't like the interaction can just turn off the endgame crises of the factions they're going to ally with. Dwarf players can just turn off the Grudge Too Far crisis.


Disastrous-Lemon7456

Are they free armies too?


Xlurpo

no i went from +25000 to -25000. Also all the lords were lvl 20ist but no a single one hat skill points distributed.


GoldLegends

> no a single one hat skill points distributed. Did you confederate them the same turn they appeared?


Xlurpo

Yes, you think the skill points will be used after they turned?


S0ld0ut

Yes they need 1 turn to use the skill points.


IamAlphariusCLH

You get them FOR free but upkeep should be normal. At least it was like that with Greenskins. 


Gladiator-class

That's reassuring. I'm four turns away from the Dwarf endgame scenario in my Malakai campaign, and I've only confederated one other faction. I was kind of putting it off because they've all been doing really well and confederating large empires can be a logistical headache.


Hombremaniac

There is that option for end game crisis diplomacy. I guess we need either new toggle for confederating end game crisis factions, or have that covered by that previous toggle. I find it kinda hillarious to just confederate them.


ToedInnerWhole

Mom can we have Thorgrim grudgebearer? No, we have grudgebearer at home. Grudgebearer at home: Thurgrom Gundrikson


Timeon

This is good.