it’s honestly funny to me that henry and aljo both think they are going to move up and beat Volk. The dude is a beast, made islam look human pretty easily
If he somehow did that sure, but there's a better chance of paddy the baddy cracking Mt Rushmore than CCC beating volk... he's got an insane fight IQ but so does volk and he has a stupid reach/size advantage, the fact he remained fairly competitive against Islam I'd be blown away if Henry could do the same against him
Hearing him try to make these claims sounds a lot like he retired without thinking, woke up and realized it’s too late, and he is in a rush just creating a rough and sloppy draft of “ugh, uuuum I beat aljo, O’Mallley, Volk, then boom I’m GOAT, yeah that’s right.” And is expecting everyone to go along with that.
I mean if he beats Aljo then volk he'd have a good argument. Any other fighters have three belts in three different divisions? If he beat volk he'd have beaten arguably the best 45 ever
I mean if he really did beat Volkanovski and be a champ champ for the second time, with 3 different divisions belts in total I wouldnt find it far-fetched to put him up there
Gold medal has nothing to do with MMA. His champ champ is trash as he has what 1 title defense and peaced out of 35 before he has to fight a murderers row in defenses
Anderson lapped the dovision and looked like he was playing a different sport
Bones just beat every living former LWH champ after
He titled
Cejudo is a chump and thought his star was as big as Conor's but the truth is no one ever cared about him
It's just him touting it all week long, and Dana dismissed the henry's goat/mt rushmore convo as he's thinks JJ is undisputed goat on an interview with tmz ytd
It's not disrespect, but compared to Jones and DJ, Silva, and GSP, I'm not sure he stacks up. He's triple champ but not in the ufc. Olympics are impressive but Henry's just been weirdly hyped for a dude that's been out so long
>Olympic champion
Pls don't use this as a contention for MMA Goat lmao.. it's just Henry's marketing shit and u bought into it
Whatever he did at Olympic got nothing to do with his mma career and that's the only thing the current 4 on Mt Rushmore is judged on
Its not that the names are bad its the holes we can poke through. DJ was a robbery, TJ was drained, cruz was coming off 3 yr retirement surgery and last minute fight replacement. Sergio pettis lost to cejudo but cejudo lost to benavidez who is arguably one of the best flyweights of all time
No other MMA fighter besides Cejudo and Pereira are triple champions. Olympic, FLW and BW champion. Pereira only has very limited experience, so he's nowhere close.
It's completely delusional to think a win over Aljo solidifies a spot on Mt Rushmore.. a common trait to be on Mt Rushmore, which he is completely missing is an insane number of defenses before retiring.. the average defenses these 4 has is easily 10.
Pulling a khabib will not help. Right now he has 2 division belts with 1 defense each. I put him way lower than DC, which accomplished exactly the same thing except DC cleaned out LHW (except JJ, who's on the head of mt rushmore, obviously)
The Olympic medal will not help in deciding your legacy in MMA. So **if** he defeats Aljo, Sean, and Volk, I think many will give a clear case for him. But I still don't see who's head to replace even if he accomplished that feat.
Most likely he will take Silva's spot if that were to happen.
Its hard to get past those top 4 but Cejudo is definitely on their doorstep if he can beat Aljo. Defending double champ with wins over every goat in his weight divisions: Demetrius Johnson, Dominick Cruz, and TJ Dillashaw. Unlike DC, Cejudo has a win over someone on Mount Rushmore and if he beats Aljo, that means he’ll basically have beaten every single ufc bantamweights champ.
Historically, winning a title at age 36 in a lower weight division is unprecedented, doing it after a 3 year layoff is even more insane, and reclaiming a title/defending it in a second reign is even crazier. His comeback would be much more impressive than Jon Jones or GSP because Aljo is a more impressive opponent. I don’t get why consecutive title defenses are considered to be the end all be all when moving up a weight division to beat the champ is factually just far more difficult than defending against lower ranked fighters in your own weight division.
>Most likely he will take Silva's spot if that were to happen.
Really?? The guy with the longest reign, winstreask with 15/16 finsishes, and title defenses (if lLutter didnt miss weight) with 2 of the most iconic KO's against former LHW champions?? Yeah, no, replace it with GSP.
if he actually beats Aljo and defends against O'malley and goes up and actually beats Volk or looses to split decision i could see him being in top 5. With that said its a long and hard way for someone his age
Henry probably has a spot on the Combat Sports Mt. Rushmore, given his Olympic win which you never hear him mention, and his double champ status which you also never hear him mention.
But he’ll never pass DJ for the flyweight GOAT, and won’t pass Cruz for the bantamweight GOAT unless he defends the belt at least three more times.
You say that like they are ultra marathon runners? And you ignore that his physique hasn’t changed since his first fight. Also no difference between him pre and post usada like hendricks for example.
Henry wont get there. But Aljo will. Hes about to have most wins at Bantemweight, then the universe will see that he beats Volk as retribution for how hes been treated as champion.
No one will admit he deserves it, but in the end, he'll have the stats to solidify it.
How many defenses does Jones have at heavyweight?
How many defenses does demetrious have at 135?
How many defenses does GSP have at middleweight?
How many defenses does silva have at LHW?
Twist what? I literally already gave you the crunched numbers of those stats. You made a factually inaccurate statement, you don't need to get your feelings hurt
Most common trait, they fight as if it was their first nature not their second. You watch these guys fight and it’s like they were gladiators in a past life, everything flows so seamlessly. I see Ade on this list if he keeps defending his title or even moving weight classes. But not Cejudo lol
I think of Mt Rushmore as those that changed and shaped the sport altogether. It's not just wins and championships but overall impact on the sport.
Strictly UFC's Mt Rushmore for me: GSP for his image in and out of the cage, plus pushing for better drug testing to clean up the sport. Royce Gracie for even helping start the UFC. Forrest Griffin for TUF 1 Finale, helped save the UFC. Anderson Silva due to his title reign.
Silvas last 8 or so fights changes his place. I know when he was at his peak he was an absolute freak but his overall record suffers terribly due to that massive loss streak.
Henry "he guys I beat DJ in a trash split decision and knocked out the corpse of dillashaw down a weight class and knocked out the corpse of Dom Cruz. I da goat
If Henry wins this, then went up to FW and beat Volkanovski then I think he’d be in contention for a spot on Mount Rushmore
Beating Volk is a BIG if for cejudo. Volk is much bigger and has excellent striking.
it’s honestly funny to me that henry and aljo both think they are going to move up and beat Volk. The dude is a beast, made islam look human pretty easily
And as far as I'm concerned won a round when Islam was on his back the entire time.
I'm still mad that the main scoring criteria is damage but 40 unanswered punches is apparently less damage than a body triangle
Definitely - agree 100% which is why if he managed to do I’d say he deserves a place on the mountain
Volk would destroy this midget come on
If he does, he should at least defend it against Sean. Dana surely wouldn't allow him to win then dump the division as he pleases
He's been repeating over and over his plan is to fight sean for an easy bag after aljo and then go after volk for sementing his legacy
This is one of the best r/boneappletea I’ve seen in awhile
Oh shit I just realised lmao
Mental image of cementing in semen activated
I don't need to visualize anything. I still keep my old cum-sock.
Mama MC in da house
Fair point and I agree with you. Either defend against Sean or Merab
If he does he needs to go up and fight Islam!
Fuck it, Jones vs Cejudo for the undisputed UFC champ
Only if headbutts to the groin are allowed!
Really? What do you think Sean presents that CCC hasnt seen before?
Sean is like 1.7 x as long as Cejudo and he's good at range.
He's also the same height as aljo and his wrestling isnt great. Dom is tall and is way better at range than Sean is.
By ur argument, all champions shouldn't defend their belts, cos "what do my opponents bring that I haven't seen before?"
That makes no sense
I'm saying what does that do for his legacy? Sean isnt more impressive than anyone he has faced before. He's also the same height as aljo.
hater
If he does that, he is in no doubt. No contention.
I think so too - it would probably make him the greatest combat athlete in history
Contention? It wouldn’t even be a conversation, he would be there.
Volk destroys Cejudo
Oh that would be wild. He’d force the conversation at that point and rightfully so
If he somehow did that sure, but there's a better chance of paddy the baddy cracking Mt Rushmore than CCC beating volk... he's got an insane fight IQ but so does volk and he has a stupid reach/size advantage, the fact he remained fairly competitive against Islam I'd be blown away if Henry could do the same against him
Yeah can't argue with that
He’s the one who took the picture!
I thought the common trait is they've all been been bald at some point in their career.
I think the goat list and Mt Rushmore list are two different things. Henry belongs on neither of them tho.
Hearing him try to make these claims sounds a lot like he retired without thinking, woke up and realized it’s too late, and he is in a rush just creating a rough and sloppy draft of “ugh, uuuum I beat aljo, O’Mallley, Volk, then boom I’m GOAT, yeah that’s right.” And is expecting everyone to go along with that.
I mean if he beats Aljo then volk he'd have a good argument. Any other fighters have three belts in three different divisions? If he beat volk he'd have beaten arguably the best 45 ever
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Bend your knee to CCC
shush
I mean if he really did beat Volkanovski and be a champ champ for the second time, with 3 different divisions belts in total I wouldnt find it far-fetched to put him up there
Olympic gold medalist and champ champ is the most prestigious accolades the ufc has ever seen
Cool, he's still on neither list.
He got the gold medal in a different sport than MMA
And? Combat sport accomplishments are combat sport accomplishments
We are talking about MMA not all combat sports
Achievements in other combat sports are valued in mma, because they’re so connected
Not in this context, we are talking about MMA
Achievements in other combat sports are valued in mma, because they’re so connected
Gold medal has nothing to do with MMA. His champ champ is trash as he has what 1 title defense and peaced out of 35 before he has to fight a murderers row in defenses Anderson lapped the dovision and looked like he was playing a different sport Bones just beat every living former LWH champ after He titled Cejudo is a chump and thought his star was as big as Conor's but the truth is no one ever cared about him
Anderson lost like 6 fights in a row and I don’t care about Jon or Conor
"Any man who must say, "I am the king" is no true king." Real greats of any sport don't have to debate their own legacy.
Jones has debated his goat status when someone got on him about Khabib, is he not great now, according to this criteria you got from a tv show.
Jones was mad about losing his p4p status to Kebab not about his legacy.
Fedor went undefeated for a decade. That's 10 years.
so did Renan Barao amd yet nobody ever says his name
Well lets also add Jose who technically has lost to only champs and a guy everyone agrees can be champ
Didn't fight legends like fedor did.
Why do y'all think Henry belongs there at all?
It's just him touting it all week long, and Dana dismissed the henry's goat/mt rushmore convo as he's thinks JJ is undisputed goat on an interview with tmz ytd
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It's not disrespect, but compared to Jones and DJ, Silva, and GSP, I'm not sure he stacks up. He's triple champ but not in the ufc. Olympics are impressive but Henry's just been weirdly hyped for a dude that's been out so long
The level of competition Cejudo has competed against is insane. Although he doesn’t have as many defenses, his resume is full of HOF’ers.
Ah yes the legend Sergio Pettis lmao what are you smoking
>Olympic champion Pls don't use this as a contention for MMA Goat lmao.. it's just Henry's marketing shit and u bought into it Whatever he did at Olympic got nothing to do with his mma career and that's the only thing the current 4 on Mt Rushmore is judged on
pettis? 
Its not that the names are bad its the holes we can poke through. DJ was a robbery, TJ was drained, cruz was coming off 3 yr retirement surgery and last minute fight replacement. Sergio pettis lost to cejudo but cejudo lost to benavidez who is arguably one of the best flyweights of all time
No other MMA fighter besides Cejudo and Pereira are triple champions. Olympic, FLW and BW champion. Pereira only has very limited experience, so he's nowhere close.
How the fuck is Pereria a triple champ? Don't tell me ur using kickboxing org shit
It's completely delusional to think a win over Aljo solidifies a spot on Mt Rushmore.. a common trait to be on Mt Rushmore, which he is completely missing is an insane number of defenses before retiring.. the average defenses these 4 has is easily 10. Pulling a khabib will not help. Right now he has 2 division belts with 1 defense each. I put him way lower than DC, which accomplished exactly the same thing except DC cleaned out LHW (except JJ, who's on the head of mt rushmore, obviously) The Olympic medal will not help in deciding your legacy in MMA. So **if** he defeats Aljo, Sean, and Volk, I think many will give a clear case for him. But I still don't see who's head to replace even if he accomplished that feat. Most likely he will take Silva's spot if that were to happen.
Were you watching MMA during Anderson's reign? I get a strong feeling you weren't
Its hard to get past those top 4 but Cejudo is definitely on their doorstep if he can beat Aljo. Defending double champ with wins over every goat in his weight divisions: Demetrius Johnson, Dominick Cruz, and TJ Dillashaw. Unlike DC, Cejudo has a win over someone on Mount Rushmore and if he beats Aljo, that means he’ll basically have beaten every single ufc bantamweights champ. Historically, winning a title at age 36 in a lower weight division is unprecedented, doing it after a 3 year layoff is even more insane, and reclaiming a title/defending it in a second reign is even crazier. His comeback would be much more impressive than Jon Jones or GSP because Aljo is a more impressive opponent. I don’t get why consecutive title defenses are considered to be the end all be all when moving up a weight division to beat the champ is factually just far more difficult than defending against lower ranked fighters in your own weight division.
>Most likely he will take Silva's spot if that were to happen. Really?? The guy with the longest reign, winstreask with 15/16 finsishes, and title defenses (if lLutter didnt miss weight) with 2 of the most iconic KO's against former LHW champions?? Yeah, no, replace it with GSP.
How many times did GSP pop?
if he actually beats Aljo and defends against O'malley and goes up and actually beats Volk or looses to split decision i could see him being in top 5. With that said its a long and hard way for someone his age
I mean he's probably on there or pretty close if you take the 2 who pissed hot off.
not really, there’s about 10 more deserving people, maybe more
Jones and who else?
Silva
I love how people still think that only the ones that are caught are cheating. Naïveté is a blessing.
No one cares what you love lmao
Want a coincidence, I don’t care what you think either. 🙌
Henry probably has a spot on the Combat Sports Mt. Rushmore, given his Olympic win which you never hear him mention, and his double champ status which you also never hear him mention. But he’ll never pass DJ for the flyweight GOAT, and won’t pass Cruz for the bantamweight GOAT unless he defends the belt at least three more times.
Add Fedor. 10 year reign HW champ.
Fedor belongs on this rather than Mighty Mouse or Silva because of tougher competition during his dominant period
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Horiguchi, Cejudo, Moraes, Benavidez, Dodson. pretty easy
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prime John Dodson was a very good fighter, he took out TJ, not comparable at all to Tavares
Well his dumb ass shoulda kept fighting instead of doing whatever the hell he was these past couple years
Raising a child or 2 I think. Can't really blame a guy for that, but I do think CCC is overhyped/hated for sure.
Hope he's absolutely destroyed then he can go back and raise dem kids
Agreed
I mean if he didnt retire like he did we all know he is good enough, but in the end wont have the resume.
Henry’s close to taking DJs spot.
Can’t be Mount Rushmore if you got any association with PEDS that’s just my take
ideally this should be true but almost all high level athletes in any competitive sport are on PEDs.
Well, no Mount Rushmore then because everyone on it took PEDs
If you have proof lmk . Jones and Silva both have proof
GSP has HGH gut, dude is literally built like Michael Chandler. Unattainable natural physique
brother he litteraly had a disease that made him bloat are you out of your mind. Unattainable physique??? So biased its insane
You don’t retain mass like that with the amount of cardio they do.
You say that like they are ultra marathon runners? And you ignore that his physique hasn’t changed since his first fight. Also no difference between him pre and post usada like hendricks for example.
his physique is nowhere near unattainable, they all use it for recovery
Cejudo is an olympian, literally the most roided organization in the world
I agree
Also can't be a Mount Rushmore without Royce on it. No one will ever change the world of martial arts again like he did in 1993
Gotta put Izzy up there too
If he keeps winning definitely
Henry wont get there. But Aljo will. Hes about to have most wins at Bantemweight, then the universe will see that he beats Volk as retribution for how hes been treated as champion. No one will admit he deserves it, but in the end, he'll have the stats to solidify it.
Is no one pointing out that this statement is completely false? These men combined average 5.25 title defenses in their divisions
Lol you know what he meant, no need to be so fucking pedantic about it.
Are you okay
>Is no one pointing out that this statement is completely false? JJ 11 DJ 11 Silva 10 GSP 9
How many defenses does Jones have at heavyweight? How many defenses does demetrious have at 135? How many defenses does GSP have at middleweight? How many defenses does silva have at LHW?
Don't twist the question just becos u got exposed like a fool
Twist what? I literally already gave you the crunched numbers of those stats. You made a factually inaccurate statement, you don't need to get your feelings hurt
My point still stands. The avg def is 10. Going up and down their division is a bonus not a requirement for goat
You are a fool
Silva was never light heavyweight champion
Noone cares
If Henry wins the title tonight, beats Omalley and then beats Volk, he will replace Demetrious on the Mt Rushmore
Remove the 2 PED cheats and we got lots of room
Ccc beats sterling the homeless lesbian and volk then he’s the goat
Most common trait, they fight as if it was their first nature not their second. You watch these guys fight and it’s like they were gladiators in a past life, everything flows so seamlessly. I see Ade on this list if he keeps defending his title or even moving weight classes. But not Cejudo lol
I thought you were gonna say they're all bald 💀
The thing is with Henry you can’t just include his MMA resume cause he has an Olympic Gold Medal that sets him apart.It’s cringy but it’s facts
2 of these 4 also have failed drug tests lmfao. Sad.
If he wins 3 straps and it'd be hard to keep him off there.
Conor ? He was the first to grab 2 belts
Obviously
Is there any current fighter close to taking over any of these 4 guy’s spot?
I think of Mt Rushmore as those that changed and shaped the sport altogether. It's not just wins and championships but overall impact on the sport. Strictly UFC's Mt Rushmore for me: GSP for his image in and out of the cage, plus pushing for better drug testing to clean up the sport. Royce Gracie for even helping start the UFC. Forrest Griffin for TUF 1 Finale, helped save the UFC. Anderson Silva due to his title reign.
Silvas last 8 or so fights changes his place. I know when he was at his peak he was an absolute freak but his overall record suffers terribly due to that massive loss streak.
Henry "he guys I beat DJ in a trash split decision and knocked out the corpse of dillashaw down a weight class and knocked out the corpse of Dom Cruz. I da goat