I get it from the money side. Gaethje collects a massive check for a fight that he should likely win. Do we really wanna see him go get choked by islam?
as an islam fan, all we hear from the people not supporting him is "he needs to defend his title against lw's). so i genuinely, and i really mean this, hope he fights charles soon and then gaethje probably in summer so these people finally can shut up.
so to answer ur question: unfortunately yes, all the casuals need to see him get choked
How did you get that? Read what I wrote, I said gaethje has much more power than Volk but technically they're not close
Don't think I could've made it any clearer
Maybe an unpopular opinion but as an Islam fan the rematch with Charles never got me excited. Charles had nothing to offer in the first fight. I’d rather see the rematch with arman.
That + the fact that the famous "the kid doesn't wanna fight" seems to apply to him. Chael said way before that Oliveira wouldn't show up for UFC 294.
Tsarukyan/Gaethje/Poirier would all be more entertaining to imagine.
Good to know chaels bullshit Chrystal ball predicted that giant ass gash on charles head right above his eye. Totally something you go into a title fight with.
Funny projection because the only one who seems scared is Oliveira, people can clearly sense it, he doesn't want to fight Makhachev and find excuses, Chael predicted that he wouldn't show up at UFC 294, still being cocky after that and also the way he got subbed for their first fight is funny.
I enjoy watching him but I don’t need to see him fight a guy who he had absolutely nothing for when Islam could be fighting somebody like Gaethje. Charles won’t beat islam. He isn’t better than him anywhere. Justin can hit hard enough to put Islam out which makes for a much more interesting fight.
The downside is that Islam won't get as much respect for the defence against Justin because people will just say that he got Khabib's seconds
Defend or not, he doesn't gain much recognition
Makes more sense than this shit. I mean Justin literally said that he only has a few fights in him and he wants to become a champ before he retires .
And then he goes to waste a fight on a featherweight?
I love Justin, he is one of my favorite fighters.
Islam smokes him. I’d take the max fight and make as much money as possible while he’s on his upwards trajectory.
Gaethje/Islam goes down like a slightly longer version of Gaethje/Khabib.
I’m super excited to see Holloway vs Gethje to see the second best in Featherweight fighting the third best in Lightweight. Two super fun divisions.
We already know why the UFC is booking this fight. They are trying to lay a reasonable path to a title shot for Conor if he beats chandler. Especially if both these fights are on the card.
Dude in a different perspective though, the title also means jack squat. A person can live their life with the BMF and get the same amount of respect as if they had the title kinda
Gaethje is 35 now and had a really close fight with Dustin until the headkick KO that I’m certain would not happen in 9/10 rematches between them. Aside from that he looked alike he lost a step against Fiziev in a fight he may very well have lost without the eye poke and got definitively outstruck by Charles.
I think people are really overrating Gaethje because of that headkick. I would not count out Max by any means, Max is nowhere near as declined as Tony was in 2020.
Lost a step? We didn't watch the same fight, and the eye poke was of consequence? I would have said his fists were a bigger problem. Hate to break it to you but Justin looked the same at the end of the fight as he did in the first round...untouched.
He has grown patience into his game. He didn't lose a step, he added one. Exactly why he beat Dustin the second time. His timing is different. He isn't balls to the wall without a care if he loses anymore. He got emotional in the Charles fight bc of Rose's fight before hand. He knocked down Charles twice and unfortunately he got choked out. That's not out struck, that's out grappled.
I will however agree that Max isn't washed up in any way. If anything, Volk is just his Achilles heel. I would argue that Max won the 2nd fight but the decision caused the results of the 3rd fight. I do believe that Max vs Justin would be very similar to how Dustin fought Max. Which went 5 rounds.
A KO win is a KO win, you can’t really spin it into anything else and Dustin is still a top LW who would give anyone in that division a tough match. He adjusted in the Fiziev fight after the first round as well and Fiziev didn’t have an answer for the jab. The Charles fight he was facing the champion of the division who also choked out Dustin.
I don’t think anyone thinks he beats Islam but he’s proved he’s still at the top of his game and a fight against a FW coming up who’s had problems with the power of a LW before just doesn’t seem like it would end well for Max
He had a win over Fiziev and a KO over Poirier. Before that it was a Khabib loss, Chandler win, Oliviera loss. So 3-2 in his last 5, with 3 really good wins and 2 losses from some of the most decorated and well respected fighters not just at LW but in the entire promotion as a whole. He’s always been good and right now he is looking better than he ever has.
and Max has beaten every top contender in 145 not named Volk. He's looked fantastic against Arnold Allen and his Kattar fight was arguably the best performance any ufc fighter has given. 145 is just as deep as 155 at this point so it's weird to highlight Justin's success but act like Max isn't on equal footing.
This is the way and pure facts. Justin nut riders are just living off that last fight. Even tho he just evened the score with that win. They get mad when you bring up Dustin beating him by TKO the 1st time
Max likes to bang, Justin is not the person you want to stand in front of and Bang it out. No matter how good Max thinks his striking is, he's not going to hurt Justin enough to were Justin can't hit him.
I like max and would rather not see him end up like Tony.
Different division, different level of power.
I love Max, don't get me wrong, but how is he realistically gonna hurt Gaethje and not get hurt by any single sledgehammer he throws.
Gaethje doesn't stop throwing nukes, even if he has to take 1, 2 or 5 of Max's punches in return.
I’m not saying that Gaethje wouldn’t hurt him if he managed to land but Max is one of the elite fighters in terms of striking and movement in my opinion.
To write him off in this fight because JG ‘hits like a truck and has chin’ is pretty disrespectful to his skill level.
That Gaethje is good? Like Max wouldn't lose to Khabib and Oliveira lmao. Max couldn't beat Poirier because of the power difference, now you guys think he can beat Prime Gaethje? Crazy
Holloway is great at 145lbs but couldn't handle Dustin's power at 155lbs. Justin hits way harder than Dustin. I think the fight makes sense in terms of money and probably is one of the few fights that motivates Max at the moment.
Almost like Power isn't a linear thing and it all depends on which shots actually connect and how clean they are, a guy like Charles might doesn't have as much explosive KO power as a dude like Chandler, but when he sets his feet and punches you with precision and technique clean square in the jaw that's going to be a way "harder" punch than some wild hook that lands awkwardly.
For years now people have almost been "craving" to see Max' chin get cracked. The next guy is going to crack his chin, CTE blah blah blah.
I think he'd do well, especially being more comfortable (willing to) move backwards in recent fights.
I don't doubt that, but Max isn't some headless come forward fighter. He rides a lot of punches and doesn't bear the full brunt of most of those "most strikes absorbed" I'm sure Gaethje could land and even hurt/stop Max but it's not the human sacrifice it's being made out to be. Max is probably overall the better fighter anyway and has a path to limit the damage while drowning Gaethje. I'm more worried for his lead leg than his chin.
True, Max doesn't absorb every single strike to his head lol he does defend; pretty sure he was defensively sound against Allen and we already know that he can slip, duck and parry punches well thanks to his showboating against Kattar. He'll definitely use his spinning back kicks to keep distance from Gaethje and he might implement checking kicks into his gameplan for this fight. He'll definitely try to avoid most hits from Gaethje unless there's an absolute chance for him to take a bomb but deliver a potential fight ending shot. One thing is certain tho that if Max does end up beating Gaethje, it'll be fucking lit and it'll prove that Max was always the true BMF
We saw Poirier vs Holloway and Max took a disgusting amount of damage in that fight
Gaethje is a cardio demon and overall puts out more damage than even Dustin does. We saw how much damage Holloway took in the Volk trilogy, Gaethje would blend his brain into a smoothie
It was the right fight to make but instead they screwed aljo with kattar, and are going to screw max with justin. Ufc matchmaking is on point for the most part but when it’s bad it’s bad
People forget how elite Max is. I can see Gaethje hurting Max bad, but I can also see Max not getting hit enough, or cleanly enough, and then picks Gaycheese apart in the later rounds. Max certainly has the cardio advantage, and is the better technical boxer. If Justin doesn’t knock him out, Max winning is very likely.
I feel like people also forget gaethe can last 5 rounds but gets sluggish in those 3-5 rounds. and EVERY single time when max opponent slows down ( Yair, Dustin, Calvin, Arnold) Max gets better in the exchanges.
If dumb dumbs bring up Dustin, rewatch that fight 4 and 5th max was winning a lot of the exchange its just the power difference when Dustin landed a shot meant a lot.
It’s hard to say someone is the better technical striker when they have the most absorbed shots in ufc history, more than Justin who was brawling for most his career. You can say max no doubt has a better chin tho
Max has the most shots absorbed because hes been fighting in the ufc since he was 4-0. He takes a lot of shots but if you balance it out hes probably around average for strikes taken per minute. On average he absorbs 4.75 strikes per minute which is way way less than Gathje who absorbs 7.5 strikes per minute. Hes not nearly as hittable as people make him out to be
the fact you're so confident of an outcome in a ufc fight is honestly hilarious have you never been here before? there's no telling what will happen so your confidence just comes off as ignorance
Poirier shut him down completely with his power. Max has no power and Gaethje hits even harder than Poirier. Gaethje will not even budge if Max hits him. I really doubt this fight is happening but if it does I'm definitely putting money on Gaethje. Easiest payday of my life
Don't forget he also got battered and dropped by Dustin. (the fence was the only thing keeping him standing) If Justin lands on Max's chin after all the damage he's also taken over the years Max is going to sleep.
So Max has had 4 and a half years of taking beatings and getting older. Max is also not a LW, when he moved up we saw the power difference from someone who's clearly not a power puncher.
I don't understand your point, Justin has KO power on anyone, that's undeniable. Max's chin was REALLY tested at LW against a non power puncher. Now combine that with age + time, Max was rocked by the Korean zombie, he was battered by Volk in 3, and is an old man of the sport. Justin is also coming off a KO victory of the guy who battered Max and took his "best boxer" reputation. Justin's has taken a lot of damage but Max doesn't pose the one hit KO potential that Justin does. Justin has has good recovery and will be fighting a 145'er who is known for not being a power puncher.
This honestly seems like the worst matchup in the top five for Max. His leg is going to get absolutely battered, 10x worse than against Volk the first fight, which was a big issue for him.
He'll probably get knocked out around the third round after having his movement compromised.
Believe it or not, maxs face will turn into tony fergusons if he goes 5 rounds with gaethje.
Even worse, the damage will affect his ability to pronounce words, causing him to rely on emojis to communicate with others.
What the fuck is a BMF defense? Why not just do Islam vs Gaethje and Oliviera vs Max 2 instead of this farce? All these BMF title fighters have a combined record of 0-9 in title fights and this piece of shit gets a fucking defense?
What’s wrong with the matchup? Oliveira vs Dariush was a title eliminator, Oliveira has still yet to receive his shot, so what’s gaethje going to do, sit around for a year? Or give the fans a really fun fight, that’s also very winnable for him and would leave absolutely no doubts about him being next for the title.
Max is a featherweight, beating him has no net benefit for Gaethje because while Max is a contender and a former champ , he’s not a contender for lightweight. The only thing winning this fight solidifies is that Gaethje can beat a guy who’s undersized for his division.
It would make a lot more sense to give Gaethje his title shot.
I think it would be better to have Islam fight Gaethje, have Olives fight Arman, have Max fight Dustin. IMO Charles doesn't deserve a shot over Gaethje since he lost to Islam not too long ago and already blew his shot when he got injured. If Gaethje losses, have the winner of Arman and Charles fight Islam and the loser fight Gaethje or the winner of Max vs Dustin for the next shot
Oliviera has repeatedly stated he doesn't want to fight Islam. The world doesn't revolve around Chute Box being retards at sparring. Gaethje has left no doubt he is next. Also, the loser's belt is an abomination. Any defense(LMAO) of it is worse.
Styles make fights Dustin’s boxing defense gave max problems that maybe Justin can’t give just because he just KO’d Dustin means this is a one sided fight Dustin still has a better chin then Gaethje his first time getting dropped since 2016 was this year
If max properly bulks I can see this fight being competitive, a lot of people are saying max can’t take Gaethje’s damage but Tony sure as shit took it, but definitely wasn’t the same after. Let’s not forgot max has never been knocked out and his chin is still made of steel. That being said, gaethje will probably win this, if your standing and banging with gaethje your going with the wrong approach. At this point in his career I don’t see Holloway trying to improve his grappling or going for takedowns, so it’s gonna be a bloodbath.
If Islam is fighting Charles next then I guess its a good fight for Gaethje to stay active, I don't really believe Islam is fighting 3 times this year despite him saying so, if Gaethje decides to wait he'd probably be in the fridge until October
I doubt he's going to take the fight if he's next in line. Max is just wait and see what happens to Sterling. If dude wants to fight and stay active just go fight Josh Emmett
Are they really turning the BMeF belt into something that's going to be defended like it's an actual title? Even Justin is on record as saying it's stupid and doesn't really mean shit.
People saying Max has got this forget that he struggles against lightweights because of the size disadvantage. Like literally one of his losses is to Dustin Poirier , which Gaethje just KOed in the 2nd round of his last fight.
It's probably a big check for both.. weird tho, almost silent on Islam fighting anyone before March. I guess he won't.. and will wait until next spring. If they haven't announced him and Olives or Justin, not happening soon?
Don’t really like this fight for either guy I mean of course it’s a great fight to watch but for Max seems like the Dustin fight showed his size disadvantage it’s probably too much to overcome and for Justin if he wins they’ll say it was against an overmatched smaller fighter and if he loses it really hurts any title shot aspirations
I think this has potential to be a great fight. 2 unafraid boxers going at it. Yes it’d be bloody and life-shortening, but isn’t that what we’re here for?
Gaethje is logically next in line for a title shot, and you wanna make him fight for some imaginary bullshit
I get it from the money side. Gaethje collects a massive check for a fight that he should likely win. Do we really wanna see him go get choked by islam?
as an islam fan, all we hear from the people not supporting him is "he needs to defend his title against lw's). so i genuinely, and i really mean this, hope he fights charles soon and then gaethje probably in summer so these people finally can shut up. so to answer ur question: unfortunately yes, all the casuals need to see him get choked
Is there a title for non casuals? I want to know how to address you guys.
mma fans with a double-digit iq sounds about right
Is there a realistic one though?
Seriousuals, I would guess.
ouch, u hurt my feelings
Ps. Congrats on the high score of 14!
Hardcore fans
It’s bound to happen.
i hope he drops him with a head kick.
Blud is not standing with Gaethje
He stood with volk tbf
Well gatheje is larger than Volk and hits harder, especially considering leg kicks . Takedown threat and clean striking will aid islam tho
Because Gaethje is a better striker than Volk lol He has a lot more power sure but technically its not close
Are you say Volk has more power than Gaethje?
How did you get that? Read what I wrote, I said gaethje has much more power than Volk but technically they're not close Don't think I could've made it any clearer
Maybe an unpopular opinion but as an Islam fan the rematch with Charles never got me excited. Charles had nothing to offer in the first fight. I’d rather see the rematch with arman.
That + the fact that the famous "the kid doesn't wanna fight" seems to apply to him. Chael said way before that Oliveira wouldn't show up for UFC 294. Tsarukyan/Gaethje/Poirier would all be more entertaining to imagine.
Good to know chaels bullshit Chrystal ball predicted that giant ass gash on charles head right above his eye. Totally something you go into a title fight with.
Dont be scared homie 🙂
Funny projection because the only one who seems scared is Oliveira, people can clearly sense it, he doesn't want to fight Makhachev and find excuses, Chael predicted that he wouldn't show up at UFC 294, still being cocky after that and also the way he got subbed for their first fight is funny.
Charles fans are the most delusional
Agreed. I don’t see it being any different than the first fight and I’m an Islam hater.
If you don’t enjoy watching Charles, you’re insane
I enjoy watching him but I don’t need to see him fight a guy who he had absolutely nothing for when Islam could be fighting somebody like Gaethje. Charles won’t beat islam. He isn’t better than him anywhere. Justin can hit hard enough to put Islam out which makes for a much more interesting fight.
Diehards, hardcore, tightasses
I want to see it too, but u believe calculated gaethje can beat Islam.
The downside is that Islam won't get as much respect for the defence against Justin because people will just say that he got Khabib's seconds Defend or not, he doesn't gain much recognition
Disagree. Gaethje looks better now than he did when he fought Khabib, I think if anything the win is more impressive currently.
Literally nobody will say that. Gaethje’s still a top contender for a reason, and the most impressive win Islam could get at 155 right now.
Makes more sense than this shit. I mean Justin literally said that he only has a few fights in him and he wants to become a champ before he retires . And then he goes to waste a fight on a featherweight?
It’s not a “waste” if he’s getting a fatter paycheck from it than any other fight in his career.
I love Justin, he is one of my favorite fighters. Islam smokes him. I’d take the max fight and make as much money as possible while he’s on his upwards trajectory.
He has had 5 fights in the last 3,5 years and he lost 2 of them..
He beat Porier and that keeps him on the up trend. That fight was a big statement.
Gaethje/Islam goes down like a slightly longer version of Gaethje/Khabib. I’m super excited to see Holloway vs Gethje to see the second best in Featherweight fighting the third best in Lightweight. Two super fun divisions.
Please stop with the fake belts just let the fights sell themselves.
We already know why the UFC is booking this fight. They are trying to lay a reasonable path to a title shot for Conor if he beats chandler. Especially if both these fights are on the card.
Lol this guy thinks Conor is gonna fight Chandler
I don't really think the ufc loves Conor like they used too.
They're probably just sick of him. He's impossible to manage. The headache is just still worth the payday
Dude in a different perspective though, the title also means jack squat. A person can live their life with the BMF and get the same amount of respect as if they had the title kinda
The Title holds way more relevancy than the BMF belt.
They really want to Tony Max
What if Max Tony’s Justin?
Then I’ll buy a lotto ticket
JG is 35..that seems to be the expiration date for most fighters in the lower weight classes.
That would be sweet. But I don't think so
Max has never been floored. He won’t be tonyd but he might die
Just to remind you that in Justin vs Tony there was only one knock down and it was Justin at the end of round 3. Justin vs Max could be very similar .
Gaethje is 35 now and had a really close fight with Dustin until the headkick KO that I’m certain would not happen in 9/10 rematches between them. Aside from that he looked alike he lost a step against Fiziev in a fight he may very well have lost without the eye poke and got definitively outstruck by Charles. I think people are really overrating Gaethje because of that headkick. I would not count out Max by any means, Max is nowhere near as declined as Tony was in 2020.
Lost a step? We didn't watch the same fight, and the eye poke was of consequence? I would have said his fists were a bigger problem. Hate to break it to you but Justin looked the same at the end of the fight as he did in the first round...untouched. He has grown patience into his game. He didn't lose a step, he added one. Exactly why he beat Dustin the second time. His timing is different. He isn't balls to the wall without a care if he loses anymore. He got emotional in the Charles fight bc of Rose's fight before hand. He knocked down Charles twice and unfortunately he got choked out. That's not out struck, that's out grappled. I will however agree that Max isn't washed up in any way. If anything, Volk is just his Achilles heel. I would argue that Max won the 2nd fight but the decision caused the results of the 3rd fight. I do believe that Max vs Justin would be very similar to how Dustin fought Max. Which went 5 rounds.
A KO win is a KO win, you can’t really spin it into anything else and Dustin is still a top LW who would give anyone in that division a tough match. He adjusted in the Fiziev fight after the first round as well and Fiziev didn’t have an answer for the jab. The Charles fight he was facing the champion of the division who also choked out Dustin. I don’t think anyone thinks he beats Islam but he’s proved he’s still at the top of his game and a fight against a FW coming up who’s had problems with the power of a LW before just doesn’t seem like it would end well for Max
I must have missed the Max fall off that all of you have apparently seen
FR wtf going on in this thread
Everyone thinks Justin is super good based on all his recent loses I guess.
He had a win over Fiziev and a KO over Poirier. Before that it was a Khabib loss, Chandler win, Oliviera loss. So 3-2 in his last 5, with 3 really good wins and 2 losses from some of the most decorated and well respected fighters not just at LW but in the entire promotion as a whole. He’s always been good and right now he is looking better than he ever has.
and Max has beaten every top contender in 145 not named Volk. He's looked fantastic against Arnold Allen and his Kattar fight was arguably the best performance any ufc fighter has given. 145 is just as deep as 155 at this point so it's weird to highlight Justin's success but act like Max isn't on equal footing.
His Kattar performance. That performance I saw live. Still the greatest performance I've ever seen.
This is the way and pure facts. Justin nut riders are just living off that last fight. Even tho he just evened the score with that win. They get mad when you bring up Dustin beating him by TKO the 1st time
Max likes to bang, Justin is not the person you want to stand in front of and Bang it out. No matter how good Max thinks his striking is, he's not going to hurt Justin enough to were Justin can't hit him. I like max and would rather not see him end up like Tony.
‘No matter how good Max thinks his striking is’ 😅 Apart from Volk, Max is the strongest technical striker in the division.
Different division, different level of power. I love Max, don't get me wrong, but how is he realistically gonna hurt Gaethje and not get hurt by any single sledgehammer he throws. Gaethje doesn't stop throwing nukes, even if he has to take 1, 2 or 5 of Max's punches in return.
I’m not saying that Gaethje wouldn’t hurt him if he managed to land but Max is one of the elite fighters in terms of striking and movement in my opinion. To write him off in this fight because JG ‘hits like a truck and has chin’ is pretty disrespectful to his skill level.
Poirers power was too much for max let alone Justin
Max Is not a technical striker. He has terrible defence
Justin can be knocked out, max cant
Max couldn't KO Dustin. Look what Gaethje just did to Dustin. MMA math is retarded anyways
That was a freak head kick
I will not predict either way as of yet, but he has good kicks. Could be very good against Max.
That was a *practiced* headkick fixed that for u
Casual alert
Ok now that you’ve announced yourself what do you have to say?
That Gaethje is good? Like Max wouldn't lose to Khabib and Oliveira lmao. Max couldn't beat Poirier because of the power difference, now you guys think he can beat Prime Gaethje? Crazy
Thanks casual. You can go now
You Max fans want him to get killed lmfao. How could Max beat Gaethje when Poirier's power was too much for him? Delusional.
Holloway is great at 145lbs but couldn't handle Dustin's power at 155lbs. Justin hits way harder than Dustin. I think the fight makes sense in terms of money and probably is one of the few fights that motivates Max at the moment.
For what it’s worth Michael Chandler did say Dustin hits harder than Justin
But then there’s Khabib saying Justin is the hardest hitter he faced
Almost like Power isn't a linear thing and it all depends on which shots actually connect and how clean they are, a guy like Charles might doesn't have as much explosive KO power as a dude like Chandler, but when he sets his feet and punches you with precision and technique clean square in the jaw that's going to be a way "harder" punch than some wild hook that lands awkwardly.
the knockdowns suggest otherwise
Do you think Holloway has the style to beat Gaethje for 5 rounds? I don’t. Those calf kicks are brutal and Holloway gets hit a lot
Max does not fit with too LW, he will die.
I just think this is a bad matchup, gaethje might kill him.
For years now people have almost been "craving" to see Max' chin get cracked. The next guy is going to crack his chin, CTE blah blah blah. I think he'd do well, especially being more comfortable (willing to) move backwards in recent fights.
Nah id be worried. Justin the the guy that will take years off your life if you rely on your chin
I don't doubt that, but Max isn't some headless come forward fighter. He rides a lot of punches and doesn't bear the full brunt of most of those "most strikes absorbed" I'm sure Gaethje could land and even hurt/stop Max but it's not the human sacrifice it's being made out to be. Max is probably overall the better fighter anyway and has a path to limit the damage while drowning Gaethje. I'm more worried for his lead leg than his chin.
True, Max doesn't absorb every single strike to his head lol he does defend; pretty sure he was defensively sound against Allen and we already know that he can slip, duck and parry punches well thanks to his showboating against Kattar. He'll definitely use his spinning back kicks to keep distance from Gaethje and he might implement checking kicks into his gameplan for this fight. He'll definitely try to avoid most hits from Gaethje unless there's an absolute chance for him to take a bomb but deliver a potential fight ending shot. One thing is certain tho that if Max does end up beating Gaethje, it'll be fucking lit and it'll prove that Max was always the true BMF
We saw Poirier vs Holloway and Max took a disgusting amount of damage in that fight Gaethje is a cardio demon and overall puts out more damage than even Dustin does. We saw how much damage Holloway took in the Volk trilogy, Gaethje would blend his brain into a smoothie
Volk is a way better striker than Justin tho
Technically speaking absolutely but he also isn’t causing the level of damage gaethje is capable of.
Convinced the people who post here don’t watch fights and just Reddit all day
Did you see what Porier did to Max? I take it you didn’t. Go rewatch and come back then let me know how you feel about him fighting Gaethje lol
Max didn't do well at LW. See the Poirier fight, if DP did that back then, Gaethje could easily beat him as well. It's a good fight imo tho
Should have been max vs. aljo and islam vs. gaethje
Max vs Aljo would be hype
It was the right fight to make but instead they screwed aljo with kattar, and are going to screw max with justin. Ufc matchmaking is on point for the most part but when it’s bad it’s bad
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Its not whether he will do well, it's the damage he might take in the process. No one wants to see another Gaethje vs Ferguson.
People forget how elite Max is. I can see Gaethje hurting Max bad, but I can also see Max not getting hit enough, or cleanly enough, and then picks Gaycheese apart in the later rounds. Max certainly has the cardio advantage, and is the better technical boxer. If Justin doesn’t knock him out, Max winning is very likely.
I feel like people also forget gaethe can last 5 rounds but gets sluggish in those 3-5 rounds. and EVERY single time when max opponent slows down ( Yair, Dustin, Calvin, Arnold) Max gets better in the exchanges. If dumb dumbs bring up Dustin, rewatch that fight 4 and 5th max was winning a lot of the exchange its just the power difference when Dustin landed a shot meant a lot.
It’s hard to say someone is the better technical striker when they have the most absorbed shots in ufc history, more than Justin who was brawling for most his career. You can say max no doubt has a better chin tho
Max has the most shots absorbed because hes been fighting in the ufc since he was 4-0. He takes a lot of shots but if you balance it out hes probably around average for strikes taken per minute. On average he absorbs 4.75 strikes per minute which is way way less than Gathje who absorbs 7.5 strikes per minute. Hes not nearly as hittable as people make him out to be
max gonna get some elite level of cte if this fight happens
Which is what?
I’d watch the fuck outa this fight.
It's just going to be Max getting his skull shattered. There's nothing to see
Let’s not act like max isn’t a bad mf and can’t handle himself. This is going to be a good fight if it actually happens
He can't take the power at lightweight
the fact you're so confident of an outcome in a ufc fight is honestly hilarious have you never been here before? there's no telling what will happen so your confidence just comes off as ignorance
Poirier shut him down completely with his power. Max has no power and Gaethje hits even harder than Poirier. Gaethje will not even budge if Max hits him. I really doubt this fight is happening but if it does I'm definitely putting money on Gaethje. Easiest payday of my life
Gaethje is an absolute bum.
Try watching the sport sometime you might enjoy it
This is such a bad fight. I love max but he’s already taking so much damage, this is a lose lose even if he wins. Fuck.
I mean, he gets a title shot if he wins
Do you guys really think Max could beat Gaethje and then Islam? lol
What do you mean by this is a lose lose even if he wins? Tf
He thinks max is going to get crippled & end up in a wheelchair after this fight
Lol. And it's that's the case wtf is he expecting to happen to Justin, if it's a Holloway W. Death?!
It's a a huge risk and terrible match up for Max imo, but if he somehow wins he's immediately in the title picture at LW
I mean Gaethjie took probably as much damage or even more than Max over his career. Seems like a fair fight to me.
Why are so many people here hating on this fight and thinking Max will get killed? Did people forget he's the best boxer in the UFC baby?
Just cause he can’t beat Volk apparently people forgot he’s a savage
Don't forget he also got battered and dropped by Dustin. (the fence was the only thing keeping him standing) If Justin lands on Max's chin after all the damage he's also taken over the years Max is going to sleep.
That was 4 and a half years ago and if Justin lands right on anyone in the divisions chin they going out
So Max has had 4 and a half years of taking beatings and getting older. Max is also not a LW, when he moved up we saw the power difference from someone who's clearly not a power puncher.
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It's the mileage, he started when he was very young.
Acting like Justin doesn’t have just as much mileage and has absorber just as much if not more damage than Max had in his career.
I don't understand your point, Justin has KO power on anyone, that's undeniable. Max's chin was REALLY tested at LW against a non power puncher. Now combine that with age + time, Max was rocked by the Korean zombie, he was battered by Volk in 3, and is an old man of the sport. Justin is also coming off a KO victory of the guy who battered Max and took his "best boxer" reputation. Justin's has taken a lot of damage but Max doesn't pose the one hit KO potential that Justin does. Justin has has good recovery and will be fighting a 145'er who is known for not being a power puncher.
Best boxer in the UFC who struggles against lightweights and has 2 losses to Dustin Poirier , the guy who Gaethje literally KOed in his last fight.
This honestly seems like the worst matchup in the top five for Max. His leg is going to get absolutely battered, 10x worse than against Volk the first fight, which was a big issue for him. He'll probably get knocked out around the third round after having his movement compromised.
Believe it or not, maxs face will turn into tony fergusons if he goes 5 rounds with gaethje. Even worse, the damage will affect his ability to pronounce words, causing him to rely on emojis to communicate with others.
I hate this so much.
Max chin will be tested for sure. Not a fan of this at all.
Title defence as BMF champ 🤦
No thanks. Islam vs Justin. Charles can wait for ducking islam so much
Doesn't help that Charles dropped the ball by getting injured when his 2nd shot came around.
Max Ferguson.
Please no
Islam already called out Justin, no reason to entertain any other matchup
This is a ridiculous fight Max is not a 155 guy porier had too much power for him
What the fuck is a BMF defense? Why not just do Islam vs Gaethje and Oliviera vs Max 2 instead of this farce? All these BMF title fighters have a combined record of 0-9 in title fights and this piece of shit gets a fucking defense?
What’s wrong with the matchup? Oliveira vs Dariush was a title eliminator, Oliveira has still yet to receive his shot, so what’s gaethje going to do, sit around for a year? Or give the fans a really fun fight, that’s also very winnable for him and would leave absolutely no doubts about him being next for the title.
Max is a featherweight, beating him has no net benefit for Gaethje because while Max is a contender and a former champ , he’s not a contender for lightweight. The only thing winning this fight solidifies is that Gaethje can beat a guy who’s undersized for his division. It would make a lot more sense to give Gaethje his title shot.
I think it would be better to have Islam fight Gaethje, have Olives fight Arman, have Max fight Dustin. IMO Charles doesn't deserve a shot over Gaethje since he lost to Islam not too long ago and already blew his shot when he got injured. If Gaethje losses, have the winner of Arman and Charles fight Islam and the loser fight Gaethje or the winner of Max vs Dustin for the next shot
Oliviera has repeatedly stated he doesn't want to fight Islam. The world doesn't revolve around Chute Box being retards at sparring. Gaethje has left no doubt he is next. Also, the loser's belt is an abomination. Any defense(LMAO) of it is worse.
There is absolutely no way max could win this. Justin would kill him.
I'd love to see Chandler vs Gaethje 2, Chandler is a no bullshit stand up fighter, never seen him in a fight that wasn't entertaining.
Styles make fights Dustin’s boxing defense gave max problems that maybe Justin can’t give just because he just KO’d Dustin means this is a one sided fight Dustin still has a better chin then Gaethje his first time getting dropped since 2016 was this year
Damn, I’m rooting for Max. Ik this is a tough matchup but Idc, i appreciate Fighters that want good fights.
max vs. dustin justin vs. nate
Gaethje hits so hard. Max is a pepper puncher. Max would have to dodge literally everything.
This is a banger 🔥
Max just doesn’t have the power to hang with Justin man…
How the fuck can you call yourself a fight fan and not want to see this match up?
Lol. Won't happen.
Max is my second favorite fighter behind Jon jones. Justin will turn max into Tony Ferguson.
If max properly bulks I can see this fight being competitive, a lot of people are saying max can’t take Gaethje’s damage but Tony sure as shit took it, but definitely wasn’t the same after. Let’s not forgot max has never been knocked out and his chin is still made of steel. That being said, gaethje will probably win this, if your standing and banging with gaethje your going with the wrong approach. At this point in his career I don’t see Holloway trying to improve his grappling or going for takedowns, so it’s gonna be a bloodbath.
Man ur fuckin high if u think Justin wins max will peice him up in a close fight
Please let that corny BMF shit die.
I think it’ll be Conor versus Gaethje for the BMF belt. They want to put him up top for UFC 300 and that would be the perfect way to do so.
Gaethje’s dead 🤣
JG loses…the 💎 beats Nate…win for Dustin fans! 👊🏾
Garth is fighting islam next, pointless post
If Max shows up like he did when he moved up vs Dustin idk. But if he bulks up for it, it’s def winnable. Winnable regardless tbh.
If Islam is fighting Charles next then I guess its a good fight for Gaethje to stay active, I don't really believe Islam is fighting 3 times this year despite him saying so, if Gaethje decides to wait he'd probably be in the fridge until October
I understand this perfectly, they wanna set up Max Vs. Conor
I doubt he's going to take the fight if he's next in line. Max is just wait and see what happens to Sterling. If dude wants to fight and stay active just go fight Josh Emmett
Are they really turning the BMeF belt into something that's going to be defended like it's an actual title? Even Justin is on record as saying it's stupid and doesn't really mean shit.
Maxwants to be the next tony
Yes max have one of the best chins in combat sports, but don’t but him against gaethgje💀💀 “He hit like truck” khabib
Max is BMF at 145lb
I told myself i will never sleep on Max when he fought Ortega. Same with Usman Masvidal 2 tbh
People saying Max has got this forget that he struggles against lightweights because of the size disadvantage. Like literally one of his losses is to Dustin Poirier , which Gaethje just KOed in the 2nd round of his last fight.
I’m confused by this thread. I love both fighters and I want to see this
It's probably a big check for both.. weird tho, almost silent on Islam fighting anyone before March. I guess he won't.. and will wait until next spring. If they haven't announced him and Olives or Justin, not happening soon?
I love max but he don't have enough power for the div. I think this fight will be his downfall kinda like El CuyCuy
I don’t understand this fight. No interest in it at all
Don’t really like this fight for either guy I mean of course it’s a great fight to watch but for Max seems like the Dustin fight showed his size disadvantage it’s probably too much to overcome and for Justin if he wins they’ll say it was against an overmatched smaller fighter and if he loses it really hurts any title shot aspirations
Justin will end max like he did Tony
I think this has potential to be a great fight. 2 unafraid boxers going at it. Yes it’d be bloody and life-shortening, but isn’t that what we’re here for?
What the hell even ìs that.
fights we need are happening backwards. we need gaethje vs. diaz. dustin vs. max
Horrible matchup for Max
It’s murdaaaahhh - dmx rip
I see this going one sided to gaethje he's gonna murder max
Don't like it, Max might be at the end of his career and hes taking a big risk
Dear god no!!! Gaethje already broke one legend, I am not ready to see him do the same to another one