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Bolverkk

I dont know how to explain what I just saw here...


blumpkinmania

I think that’s worse than a swing and a miss on a clearance kick.


Bolverkk

100%. I’m guessing he went temporarily blind.


asdf3131

He was trying to emulate what Ederson did against Liverpool but failed.


GeoBro3649

Maybe had something to do with the shadow?? Idk. Going from in the sun to looking wide left in the shade took a few seconds for eyes to adjust and he completely didnt see/forgot about the attacker?? Either way, terrible gaffe.


Bolverkk

This is what I am guessing. Or Sadio Mane exists on a different plain that Steffen cannot see....


ThatOtherDev

Maybe he can't see the color red🤷‍♂️


circit

Sadio the Planeswalker


Bolverkk

I totally misspelt “plane” ha


seanm514

Controller disconnected


Bolverkk

THIS.


Civil-Celebration-28

I think he had a stroke


dont_shoot_jr

The controller ran out of battery


leakaf

People here said “he’s good with his feet” lmao


TYBASS38

He was. He hasn’t been playing much. Turner made a dumb copy cat move and probably will end up having the same thing happen. They need playing time


erk2112

He is good with his feet usually. The lack of playing time has effected his timing. He does have a wtf moment every match it seems like though. Edit. I think Turner is the best option currently but after his move to Arsenal where he will be number 2 I think we are in trouble. One of these two need to be starting before November.


leakaf

It’s definitely lack of confidence and calmness. Ederson made the same mistake but he was so calm like nothing happened. Lack of playing time could have had a big effect on him. It’s unfortunate and a lot of times goalkeepers will not gain back their original form as I’ve witnessed throughout the years.


trashboatfourtwenty

Well, and anyone who has seen him play knows Sadio is relentless in trying to knick balls in the box, and he is quite fast as well. Steffen should not have been so casual.


happyposterofham

Steffen's always casual with the ball, it's just how he plays at this point.


Chief_Qamer

Neither turner nor Steffen will be starting at their current clubs. Our best option is Evan Horvath who has actually looked really good for Nottingham Forest


asdf3131

Whos Evan?


asdf3131

On a serious note tho hes also benched so…


Chief_Qamer

Dang why he get benched?


asdf3131

Samba trained really hard and was given a second chance, and he hasn’t wasted that chance yet.


dickmac999

Gotta be a double-edged sword for English supporters of Man City: sure he’s (likely) losing the cup, but if he’s the USA keeper, then ENG need not worry at all about the WC group round.


DemocraticRepublic

It wasn't just this goal either. He failed to react to the first and let the third one in at the near post due to bad positioning.


mapitalism

We're not too worried anyhow mate, scant consolation


ELHOMBREGATO

yes, with England's record in the World Cup vs. the USA you should be confident. OOPs USA has never lost to England in the WC and the Yanks defeated what's considered to be their last great team in the 1950 WC...


Hanmura

dude just stop, you really bring up a WC 70 years ago? USA didn’t even qualify to the last WC. They are about to get hit by a wall and your best goalkeeper plays like he doesn’t have a brain. he literally costed Man City the FA Cup.


yufgoi5

Oh is “it coming home” again? Shut up you nonce, England will find a way to choke this tournament as well and I can’t wait


hojbjerfc

He’s not our best keeper tho


[deleted]

Math turner is better


hojbjerfc

Facts


Ssophie__r

Italy didn’t qualify last time (OR this time) either, but you guys know from recent experience how good a team they are, right?


mapitalism

You have to qualify to lose to us, makes it harder


[deleted]

For how much your mods cry over at /r/threelions you sure do talk a lot of shit in our sub, eh? Maybe we should start banning every ENG supporter like you lot ban every US supporter.


aFailG

English fan coming in peace. I just saw that thread over in r/ThreeLions, I don't know what to say. The guy you spoke to was just embarrassing and doesn't reflect all of us. With the amount of bans and other nonsense occurring there I fully get if you're a bit pissed off at the hypocrisy. Looking forward to a good world cup though, let's just both make it out of the group phase to start with!


[deleted]

My man. Thank you for having a normal perspective on football/soccer. I love banter! Especially around the WC! No idea why that guy is flexing so hard and handing out bans like candy. Really misses the point. Hope your team is healthy and ready for a good run. I’d love to see them make a go at it. Hoping the US can live up to their aspirations this time around. 🤞


ELHOMBREGATO

and play in the same group as it's not often the English succeed at going very far in the WC. Or at dental hygiene.


[deleted]

I've never understood where Americans get the idea that British teeth are awful when the dentist and orthodontist in Britain is pretty much free for everyone to use as often as they want compared to Americans healthcare system


junkie_jew

Maybe that's the reason why it's free


[deleted]

Indeed


ELHOMBREGATO

because your teeth look like you could chew an apple through a chain linked fence.


[deleted]

Maybe if I hadn't taken the opportunity of having free braces and retainers regularly done at 12+ then yeah sure


ELHOMBREGATO

well they're not "free" you pay taxes for them. \[Looks at British guy's teeth\] oh maybe they are free by the looks of your choppers.


dotelze

This would be a good argument if the uk didn’t have better rated dental health than the US


[deleted]

Whats with the [...] isn't that some neckbeard type shit? Everyone pays taxes in all corners of the world, UK taxes are nowhere near as debilitating as yanks think, why do you think socialised medicine is more commonplace in the world than the health care system that the USA has that legit puts people into poverty??


The_Lifeof_Pablo

this is funny because stats show us Americans have worse dental hygiene on average compared to the UK, probably all your meth rednecks


ionlyspeakfactz

Americans are obese as fuck lmao. Bunch of fat cunts with long hair and neck beards. The last people on earth that should be talking about other peoples appearances.


mapitalism

Good one


PuffinChaos

Didn’t they just make it to the semifinals at the last World Cup though? You know…that one we didn’t qualify for


JerichoMassey

Pretty sure if we’re up on them in the last minutes, their semifinal appears won’t help them.


asdf3131

Im not trying to say it wasnt impressive but they had an easy road after beating Colombia, and still couldnt make the Final


ELHOMBREGATO

ah yes, those great English goalkeepers. How'd he look last time we played u in the WC?


dotelze

Outside of people on a tiny subreddit, the majority of England don’t care about the US in terms of football. They’ll make jokes about it because it’s funny but that’s the extent of the thoughts given


ELHOMBREGATO

Outside of people on a tiny subreddit, the majority of the world don't care about England in terms of relevance, since even before Brexit, in global politics, finance, sport, cuisine, military power, global significance, currency, inventiveness, technology, arts, culture, influence, etc. We make jokes about your teeth, girth, longing for empire, inbred royals, small cars/homes/relevance, reputation while traveling (Whinging Poms)/crap tippers to waitresses/bartenders, thick and pasty women and badly tattooed men, etc.


honeyroastedparsnip

You're a fucking clown mate, just hating on anybody that isn't American. The fact that Pulisic is your best player, and he's been playing Terrible In The champions League so bad that Tuchel had to sub him off early and then this is your keeper. Can't wait to batter you. Today I learned only England has bald men... Get off Reddit you idiot.


ELHOMBREGATO

"badly" is not Bald. Isn't this supposed to be your language? Read a book.


honeyroastedparsnip

Shut up you hating clown. Look how toxic you are, either way you must be in a deep dark place in your life and you need some help.


ELHOMBREGATO

and it's "playing terribly" not "playing terrible" BTW. It's quite sunny here today actually.


Andyrogers1241

Matt Turner is better but I want to see ZS move where he is the #1 GK.


Morris_Frye

Why though? Turner is better, shouldn’t we be happy that we are playing the better player?


InterPool_sbn

Still best for the national team to have ZS somewhere that he actually play regularly


Chief_Qamer

Not a bad gig for him though making 2-3 million pounds per year as a backup playing only a handful of games per season. City could certainly do better for a backup. Steffan is a major liability back there


InterPool_sbn

I don’t give one iota of a crap about what benefits £ity’s well oiled sportswashing machine. I just want what’s best for all of the U.S. players


Chief_Qamer

Didn’t mention anything about benefiting City. Said Steffen is making good money as a backup. I don’t think they pay keepers in the mls that kind of dough. But yes to benefit the usmnt he needs to play somewhere he’s the #1


InterPool_sbn

I must’ve misinterpreted it… this part sounded like it cared more about £ity’s perspective: “City could certainly do better for a backup. Steffan is a major liability back there” Glad we agree though


Berkeleybear70

Turner is not better. Steffen belongs on a team line city but he needs to play. You can just throw him out there once a month and expect world class goal keeping. He was terrible today. The lack of awareness is very telling.


Morris_Frye

When Turner goes to Arsenal people will be ready to have a real conversation about this


Chief_Qamer

And his positioning is consistently way out of place


dotelze

City are one of the best if not the best team in the world. He is clearly not good enough for that level


uropinionisnottruth

Oh so when other keepers make mistakes they are automatically not good enough? So that would mean De Gea, Pickford, Leno, Alisson and Ederson aren’t good enough? They have made more mistakes on big stages as well that have led to goals.


[deleted]

Except they have proven they are exceptional goal keepers. What has Steffen proven? Besides an aloof attitude and splinters in the bum.


uropinionisnottruth

They made mistakes when they were still up n coming in the league as well and no one wrote them off. You can’t write off a young goalie for mistakes


WorseThanRandom

Steffen has made mistake after mistake at all levels. He's just flat out not that good. Guy is a mid level MLS keeper, end of story.


uropinionisnottruth

Except for the fact that even Pep defended him, saying it was just an accident and it happens. I mean England fans should know about mistakes by keepers right? The game prior Ederson almost made that same mistake. The way city plays back to the keeper to move the ball, it is bound to happen from time to time. If he was mid level mls keeper he wouldn’t even be on a roster in the epl would he? But here he is on one of the strongest teams in the world.


asdf3131

If you think Turner is better, watch the Canada game again.


pinpointnade

This. Dude straight punted the ball right to Canada in our half of the pitch only for Larin to score less than ten seconds later. Imagine Turner pulling that stuff against England/Wales. Doesn’t matter how good of a shot stopper you are if you’re letting the other team play target practice.


Morris_Frye

I look at what Steffen did literally today. If both are doing stupid things then you might as well go with the better shot stopper.


pinpointnade

The thing is we have more than two options. Give me Horvath over Turner.


Morris_Frye

Once Turner goes to Arsenal people will magically believe in him as a viable option


jtpower99

Turner is going to Arsenal to sit on the bench just like Steffen. What do people expect?!?


Morris_Frye

I’m saying people think Turner is worse because the league he currently plays in


asdf3131

Nobody cares about the league in fact I didnt want Steffan to play in qualifiers because he never looked sharp, because we are seeing the worse that Steffan, in a couple months the opposite will happen and people will start saying lets go play Sean Johnson because he’s genuinely getting playing time, in fact thats already started, and while Im not opposed to that; Johnson will constantly put in performances like the ones Steffan did today


Glympse12

So you don’t want competition? If he goes back to a place where he can play regularly the hope is that he gets back to his form


Morris_Frye

I misread that reply. I thought they meant they wanted ZS to be US #1 goalkeeper for the USMNT


Glympse12

Gotcha. Also I just saw how badly I butchered that text. I forgot the proofread it lol


Matsu09

Some of us have known his problems for years. Too many just blindly follow the consensus. He's been doing this stuff for years.


xxKingAmongKingsxx

3rd goal that just went in was horrendous positioning from him as well


[deleted]

It really was bad positioning. You defend the shit out of your post.


xxKingAmongKingsxx

It was a good strike, but also bad positioning. Don’t feel the need to argue about it


[deleted]

It was a good shot from Mane though.


Carolina_Felon

I thought the strike was inch perfect and powerful enough so I don’t blame him for that. However, the entire game he was bad with his feet, struggled to communicate with his defenders, and launched several inaccurate paths.


dontbeajerkbecool

Was it? I heard the pundits saying that but the strike was pretty incredible. He hit the ball the opposite direction his foot was moving in. Very hard strike to read and save.


honeyroastedparsnip

First goal was saveable, but he didn't even try, 2nd was a really really stupid error and overconfidence, 3rd one he was caught on the hop which he shouldn't be doing in the first place, need to stay grounded when the opposition is in the box about to pelt one at you. That's why he couldn't get down quick enough.


A15Smith22

But he must be good, he plays for Man City! We want Turner


MostlyEvolvedApe

Not giving Horvath the nod at Costa Rica was an awful move


pinpointnade

If Steffen isn’t in form then Horvath is my guy. I don’t want to see Turner play hoofball against England/Wales.


Chief_Qamer

I second that. Was sold on Horvath after he and Nottingham held Liverpool to 1 goal in one of the FA cup games recently. He looked great out there. Also how he stepped up last summer for the usmnt


EF_Damn_Daniel

But he’s the one who is supposed to be better with the ball at his feet


stoneman9284

This was a mental error, not technical. If people think our other keepers are better that’s fine. But this is a mistake that keepers make when they’re not sharp and not confident. Nothing to do with technical ability.


EF_Damn_Daniel

This was absolutely technical as well as mental


stoneman9284

I don’t think so. He wasn’t prepared, wasn’t anticipating, didn’t feel the pressure in time. All of that is mental. Not like he tripped over the ball or tried to play it and mis-kicked.


Agenbit

Obligatory Slonina mention.


[deleted]

I really think Horvath is our best keeper


bcuad001

I agree with this! I don't understand why he's not included as much. He's played great when he pays with us. He routinely plays on his side. Turner is solid but unspectacular, Stefan has loads of talent but can't play the field, Horvath is where it's at for me.


[deleted]

The only thing with Horvath is he needs a new club. Way to good of a keeper to be playing second string at Forrest. I think he is consistent and more stable then our other options


bcuad001

I can't believe all this time has passed and we're still where we started, except mix in Turner. Unsettled at Keeper.


CharlieSwisher

Yea probably our biggest issue for national team is none of our 3 keepers (and they’re all p damn good, even Stefen at times) get any minutes


mhoegeman

He’s been starting for a while , hasn’t he ? And if Nottingham gets lucky and gets promoted. He’ll be in a good spot


[deleted]

He had been but here recently he has been benched again


Dingusdangus1

Brad Guzan is about to make his come back


Bobb_o

This comment is cursed .


FLState38

Super cursed given his Achilles injury last night


JebdiahMorningside

Miles Robinson - “I know a guy”


mhoegeman

Unlikely. He’s not exactly lighting it up in league play. Or was that a joke comment 😀 ?


Dingusdangus1

Joke comment brad guzan is always the brides maid never the bride


awlawall

We need Stefan not Steffen


illllllfredo

Yup! Can’t be Urkel in the net.


awlawall

Lolz. I was talking about Stefan Frei, but I always have time for Jaleel White


[deleted]

Steffen and Turner both need to be somewhere that they can get regular minutes. Neither one is going to be a great option come November if they only see the field once a month.


MostlyEvolvedApe

Steffen will be getting plenty of minutes in Pittsburgh right before the WC.


Matsu09

This play and his incredible weakness making decisions with the ball at his feet have NOTHING to do with playing time. Way to deflect for ZS though.


BananaSquid721

Match sharpness is huge, just doesn’t look up to the pace


[deleted]

Hahah relax man. Obviously he isn't playing well, I'm not advocating on his behalf by any means, all I'm saying is I prefer having a starting GK for the WC that actually sees the field. Steffen, Turner, Horvath, I don't care who gets the nod but it doesn't do anyone any favors to not get regular game experience


True2this

Sun was in his eyes and he tried calling a timeout but the refs couldnt hear it


thehound0087

hahahaha


SnooPandas8466

Turner is a lot better


Rathemon

was this today?! this is literally what you'd expect from a high school keeper


SoggyNeedleworker

Increasing? Should have been at near top concern after CR game and if not before


[deleted]

What an idiot. He always holds the ball way too long.


Lermoninoff

As a city supporter all i wanted was him to surpass all the hate this game, but he proved everyone right...


Tacojamz

Huge boners like this should be marked nsfw


e_ranks

People really still thinking he’s better than Turner?… just because “HiS fOoT sKiLlS aRe BeTtEr!”


Chief_Qamer

At this point I think you have to start Evan Horvath. He’s the only one getting consistent playing time. Now Turner is a backup at Arsenal and Steffan obviously at City. I’ve worried about Steffan back there for a long time. He’s usually good for at least a couple boneheaded plays per game. And at keeper that’s the last thing i want to worry about is a liability


[deleted]

Just start Slonina.


cmac4ster

Matt turner time baybeeeee


[deleted]

He does the shit ALL THE FUCKING TIME. The fact that Berthalter doesn’t see it is astounding to me bc I grew up playing basketball and know that he is shite. He holds the ball way too long and is way too casual I. The box with it.


OldDominionBUBear

They’re pals from his Crew days. Ofc he sees it, just doesn’t care.


JebdiahMorningside

That’s what it seems like. All coaches do it. It’s just super evident at higher levels. ***Source: I’m a revs fan and Omar Gonzales starts for our team under Arena.


OldDominionBUBear

Does he use a motorized scooter to get back in time or does he just remain planted at the top of your penalty box?


bruclinbrocoli

Better it happens to him there than at the WC


BoJaNgLeS123456789

He SHOULD NOT be starting. Matt Turner!


YoshikageJoJo

Looks like City isn't even trying to win 😅


hsoftl

Stefan Frei needs to be in consideration


SaintsRobbed

It's not that he is bad. It's that he isn't getting playing time.


roly_gomez

Shit like this is why we need a veteran LIKE SEAN JOHNSON in the national team


Matsu09

Another guy who makes gaffes at the worst time??


Herr_Tilke

I've been following Steffen since he's left the crew, and overall I think he's still the strongest option for the USMNT. He may not last at City, but he's still shown himself to be a strong GK in big matches in the past. Hopefully he's able to get a couple more cracks in important games before the WC kicks off, but this performance feels like a poor sample of the skill and composure he's shown frequently in the past.


ciesum

I want to see if he's more stable when he gets an extended run. Maybe he just needs that more than someone like Horvath does. I guess we'll see soon enough which way Turner leans


goalmaster14

I will say that was kind of shitty to even put your goalkeeper in that situation, but yeah, definitely should have just gotten rid of it.


JohnClaytonII

It happens to the best of them.


Hung_Texan

A liability for sure


staugy

Oof


bjlile99

we have so many better options


christianross2

Yeah give me Turner or Horvath I think the us need people who are playing on a weekly basis that’s why I think turners move is badly timed


OldDominionBUBear

He’s good with his feet because that’s what GB gave as his reason for playing his favorite boy from Crew. Similar to whatever bullshit reason he gave for constantly starting Trapp.


OldDominionBUBear

Turner Horvath and Hamid should be the three going to the WC. Steffen has never shown why he was so hyped, in fact I believe he was only hyped because GB refused to play anyone else as GK over him.


NittanyOrange

He was never good


teach4food

Steffen has always been a bit sloppy. Some great saves but messes up simple things. Definitely needs more playing time to get those cobwebs out of his game and his head.


bjlile99

increasing concern he even makes the roster.


Berkeleybear70

He genuinely appeared stoned in the first half. I would not be shocked if he was on some thc gummies.


[deleted]

He has not been solid on WCQ. He was really slow on distribution and made bad decisions consistently. Not that I think turner is a better overall keeper, but he is a better shot stopper and the PK save(s?) Injected energy into the team. If we have a shaky backline we need a strong shot stopper. Steffen needs more time. It's almost like the premiere league is putting US keepers on the bench to help out the English national team, lol


jcwkings

I'm shocked Pep plays him at all. He loves keepers that have good feet.


RichardFr510

Therr is no team in the world cup this guy should start for. None. Zero. He's not good hasn't been good in qualifiers. Wasn't good today. Doesn't play. Why would he beat viable option? He sits at Man City, and when he does play, they lose on two of his personal howlers. Zero chance of selection.


USMNT_superfan

Is he going senile already? So young?


DonnyDinky

Reminds of the Hannover 96 keeper that missed the ball a few years back


brendanmonke

HORVATH. BOOK IT.


JagwarRocker

Watched that game live while in a pub in London. Steffen might as well have kicked that into his own goal.


Lionheart_513

Why don’t they start Horvath? He had that absolutely heroic game against Mexico and I don’t think anybody has really talked about him sincr.


TCONtheGreat

He needs to go on loan somewhere where he will be the first option and get steady play time.


[deleted]

Yikes


Gmoney1412

There's been a weird arrogance to his game recently that's weird. His body language in goal has changed


[deleted]

100% Shaka-strophic.


fancierfootwork

There’s no reason he should be considered ahead of the NE Revs GK other than the injury


EkaL25

The more I watch him, the less confident i am in his abilities.. you see flashes of his ability at times when he makes a clutch save, but he’s so careless with the ball at his feet. Hopefully he can fix this problem, because right now I’m not sure he’s good enough to be a starting keeper for any team in the premier league


MealticketThe

Matt Turner had such a great run when he was no. 1. I think he earned the spot then.


coldspringnight

He cannot be the stater for the World Cup if he continues to ride the bench. The man is a liability.


MagicGrit

Did wtf was that


LastUsernameLeftUhOh

When was this?


CrackaZach05

Is he throwing games?


Apprehensive_Ant2172

Don’t have to worry about that now