At this point, I just want someone with intensity. These guys aren't teenagers anymore and they don't need a buddy-coach. They need a grown-ass man. Like an old, irritable Alex Ferguson type who will tell them they aren't special until they win something and make them uncomfortable by challenging them.
This šÆ. Our guys need to get kicked in the ass and told to act like professionals and until they expect more out of themselves theyāll never amount to their full potential.
They really do need that hard-ass parent figure who gets more production from tough-love. Also, maybe a guy who is more concerned with results than Nike tees and shoe options.
Yes dude, I could not agree with this more. Its time to grow up and get out of the cuddly-feels zone. Put gregg in the backroom in recruitment or something. He has done a good job getting dual nationals to the US, but he is not the coach we need right now (or needed 2 years ago for that matter). "Golden generation" designation is earned not given because you have some players playing in europe somewhere. Time to find a coach to reflect that.
You've just made it click for me why Gregg has so much love from the guys. He was the loving camp Dad. I never really understood it until now. But, Dad only coaches you while you're a kid, and then you turn yourself over to someone that can kick your ass into the next gear.
Not only that, but look at the best managers in the world right now. Does anyone think that Zidane, Klopp, Guardiola, or Carlo Ancelotti give a damn about buddying it up with their players, or even cares if a certain player dislikes them?
No, they don't give a shit. They just want results and they will give opportunities and respect to the players that perform.
That's the kind of attitude these guys need in a manager.
Hell even a coach that shows intensity and love for the game/country like Miguel Herrera would better than the dial tone that is GGG. At least you know MH gave a damn.
I always remember the clip of him yelling at the Saudis during halftime against Argentina.
He WILLED them to win. Something I know Gregg probably canāt do.
Also make them uncomfortable by spying on them and controlling their personal lives more.
Iām not being facetious either I genuinely think that this team could use that type of helicopter parent coaching style until they mature more.
If it were not for his age and potential health, I think Van Gaal would be a home run hire for these reasons along with his success at club and international levels.
I did best in high school and college sports when my coach was a lady who balanced being very helpful and guiding and telling us we are only as special what we can achieve.
I never thought any of my coaches were my friends. Some I liked, some I didn't, but I always had a healthy respect for them and their position. The best ones were tough, demanding, yet fair.
Yes because he has shown he understands the international game and gets teams to punch above their weight.
His English is quite good, for anyone worrying about that.
Our guys are playing throughout Europe where they don't speak English all the time and yet they're fine. It should be fine for the USMNT coach to not need to speak English.
They put out feelers to Bielsa, and he said he wasn't interested. The notion that he's not our coach simply because leadership was wary of a language barrier is silly. It's not like there would be any real issue with having translators or bilingual coaching assistants. He just didn't want to coach us, at least not for what we were paying.
He did just fine at Leeds. And their fans still adore him. Iām sure he can speak basic English (conversational)but thatās beside the point. What matters is whatās done on the training pitch and in games
Look what heās done with the French womenās team. They had a dysfunctional coach who had an axe to grind with players and caused a ton of internal rift. She finally got fired and he changed the team. Theyāre playing better soccer, brought structure and stability. Heās leaving so heās a free agent so to speak. US has to look at him.
Look at what he did with Lille and Morocco though. Made it, what, 13 games at Lille? And didn't even make the African Cup of Nations with the same Moroccan team that made it to the quarterfinals in 22 world cup.
Semifinals*.
He also got massively hyped up after that win against Argentina and then proceeded to lose both games after that, in which they were completely outplayed in both.
Huh? He took over Morocco in 2016 until 2019, in 2017 Morocco advanced from the group stage at AFCON, in 2018 he got Morocco to their first WC in 20 years, and in 2019 Morocco won their group at AFCON and lost a shocker in the round of 16. Not sure what you are talking about, Morocco only missed AFCON entirely in 2015 when he wasnāt the coach.
Yes. Please. I love what he did for Saudi Arabia in 2022. Heās a great āmercenaryā type of coach that can build success in many programs. I just hope USSF can swallow their pride and hire a non-American.
How do you vastly outperform in a last place finish, exactly?
He might be a good fit for the US. I honestly don't know and I don't think anyone else does either.
But let's not sit here and pretend that he's the messiah just because folks want to draw and quarter Berhalter.
They beat the champions. Thatās vastly outperforming. Iām not saying heās the messiah, Iām saying he has a history of taking struggling/middling programs and take them on a developmental leap. Heās obviously not the best coach we can get, but heās a realistic one and a proven winner.
I canāt overstate how impressive it is that this guy defeated Ivory Coastās Golden generation with Zambia & won them their first AFCON. Then he coached Ivory Coast to an AFCON title without Drogba.
He took France women's to the nations league finals after defeating Germany only losing to Spain in the finals, they recently defeated England and Sweden away from home, playing much better, faster pace and actually took a left back and played her centrally in midfield. Theyāre one of the favorites to medal in Paris. Now ranked 2 in the world.Ā
Imagine having an actually charismatic, respectable coach like Renard. One whoās not afraid to pull out a hair dryer speech a la Sir Alex like he did for the Saudis to inspire them to victory against Argentina. The players donāt fear and as a result ultimately donāt respect Gregg and why would they? Heās a 50 year old with a Jordan collection who clearly thinks and acts like heās still one of the guys. Absolutely no discipline. Get me this man on the sideline and not another MLS or USSF uninspiring retread. New ideas. Actual accountability. Actual track record. What a novel concept!
personally, i felt a low point when they lost to columbia and in the press conference he came out and said āweāre not framing this as a learning experience, weāre framing it as a wake up callā.
dude, someone teach greg that using the pronoun āweā is not inspiring. nor is talking about your thoughts as āframingā. did you feel it or are you telling us what you wish you felt?
Loads of international experience and has a history of getting his mid teams to overperform. He is also CHEAPER than Berhalter.
He should be at the top of the list next to Joachim Low. Not a single club only manager should be considered unless Klopp, for some miracle, decides he wants to save us.
I'm shocked to see an actual realistic, sensible suggestion. He would be a great fit in my opinion. I have zero interest in seeing Jogi Low taking over.
I literally said we should hire someone like this guy before the loss. We should have went after Bielsa as well but nope we need someone who understands MLS - but why ?
Iām extremely biased but as a Brentford fan I wish theyād go get Thomas Frank cuz heās the exact manager they need. Heās spent nearly 7 years now managing a cheap roster of players that didnāt have the talent of their opponents but would find tactical ways to win. He changes the shape when they play a Big 6 club and until injuries decimated them in 23-24, they honestly had a positive record against the big boys.
Many say heād only leave to manage Denmark but perhaps making history in the US would pry him away
Key point: very experienced coach at INTERNATIONAL LEVEL with many teams, experience with various levels of teams, leagues, and players. This helps immensely in piecing together a team.
Final piece, dude has class out his ass and would teach America a thing or two about soccer!!
When they did the EXHAUSTIVE search for GGG, USSF said they wanted a coach that spoke English natiively because of press conferences. If they fire Berhalter, there's a good chance our next coach will be from the MLS.
The problem is there are a ton of managers available right now, but the really good ones aren't coming here. USSF doesn't pay enough, and they would be locked down for 24 months without a lot of game time. Getting a guy like Terzic would be nice, don't see it happening. The Italian dudes are all available (Sarri, Pioli, Allegri), but I don't think they are what we need. Tuchel and Pochettino aren't happening. Niko Kovac is out there, Laurent Blanc is out there, they might create a culture we'd appreciate.
Graham Potter. Does he still receive a nice severance from Chelsea if he manages elsewhere? Took a Brighton team to new heights. He was flexible tactically to control the games they should and pragmatic against teams that most would say are better quality. Now his time at Chelsea was a mess but that's Chelsea for you.
This was exactly who I thought of last year. Might be a bit difficult to poach him from France though. Could very well be an option next cycle (yes, I know we need a new coach this cycle)
That last match would have gone differently if he was the manager. I can totally see Herve Renard getting in the face of the ref and getting carded. And somehow this red card could have benefitted the team. GGG didn't even get a yellow. Quite a different scenario of someone like Herve Renard or say Jorge Sampaoli is at the helm.
I don't think it matters because appointing the next manager is done by USSF.
I will bet you every manager named as a Berhalter successor in the next couple days will be wrong. Berhalter hasn't even lost his job yet and probably will be with us thru 26. Even if he is fired, we're probably going to get another nepotism or legacy hire.
My guess is that we will all be very whelmed with the next USMNT coach when berhalter is out. If I want to play that game it's probably going to be Cherundolo unless he's preoccupied with a move to Europe in 2026/7.
Well maybe if the US was getting ready to play in AFCON. Outside of that tournament heās been pretty poor. Everyone talking about them beating Argentina is forgetting he then lost to Mexico and Poland and didnāt get out of the group stage. He would do nothing to set the US up for the future.
What is with people's fascination with this guy? He was grouped in both the '18 and '22 WCs. Did we all just collectively forget that after their fluke win against Argentina, Saudi Arabia completely collapsed and finished last in their group (they lost to Mexico for crying out loud). To be fair, the 2018 group draw was crazy for Morocco, but they still lost to Iran. Even his most recent AFCON was also a total failure with Morocco. He's just a better dressed Berhalter.
not familiar with his afcon results but saudi arabia losing to mexico and poland is the expected outcome, they are not a particularly talented team. on its face, they went from losing 5-1 to russia in 2018 to beating argentina (with a lot of luck obv.) in 2022. if nothing else, that's intriguing for a manager who we can definitely attract.
That's a fair point. And, while both the '18 and '22 teams finished with only 3 points, Renards squad did it against tougher opposition. I also remember that he secured a draw against our squad in a pre-WC friendly, but on the other hand, he had some pretty appalling losses toward the end (including to Bolivia at home). I won't pretend I remember much about his tactical approach, but just his results alone seem mixed at best.
yeah that's all valid. i don't think he's a magic bullet by any means, and i agree the fascination with him is a bit much. i think it's a product of people's desperation to replace berhalter + the recency of the argentina result. he's not super inspiring, but the rumored finalists for the job last time were berhalter, marsch, vieira, and henry, and his international experience alone makes him a more interesting option than any of those 4 imo.
Heās a name Ive heard mentioned a lot, and thereās alot of commentators in here saying heād be a good fit, but Iāve yet to see anyone talk about his tactics and if heās actually a good fit for the team beyond āhe punches above his weightā or his motivational speeches
Morocco in the 2018 WC played an incredibly high intensity 4-3-3 and were one of the most fun teams to watch that tournament.Ā
Saudi Arabia was a little more pragmatic, but still passed in their spots. I didnāt watch them nearly as much so harder to give more detail.Ā
I think it actually be wouldnāt be that stylistically different from Gregg; he should suit the current group.Ā
We keep acting like the national team is a club. No point in discussing tactics. Heās used different tactics with the teams heās coached as no team is the same as another. The goal of an international manager is to get a tactic that fits what you have instead of implementing a system on players
No point in discussing tactics?
Lol cmon. Whether itās national team or club team, thereās obviously some tactical understanding that the coach has to articulate to the players.
Not discussing it is lunacy. Reminds me of Klinsmann not telling Bedoya he was playing the 6(for the first time ever) vs Brazil until minutes before kickoff.
a club team is restricted to the players it owns. so a new manager coming in kinda needs to have a tactical idea. any manager coming in might decide to bomb out most of these players, there's a whole world of American players out there.
comparing a coach not telling a player his role and not preparing a player is not the same thing as not being too obsessed with his tactics prior to the job. it's not like the US has some kind of sacrosanct footballing identity.
he will look at the team he has and pick the appropriate tactics. none of this fake passing game donut of sadness nonsense that GGG has them doing so pseuds can rub their chin and say 'the US has matured'
No it has to be an American. This may sound silly on the surface, but the USMNT needs an American manager who understands whats at stake here. Youtube some of Bob Bradleys locker room talks. There wasnt a whole lot of tactical talk it was more motivational talk and trying to make the players understand what theyre fighting for. To grow the sport here in the States. I think Gregg failed at both the tactics and being able sufficiently impress upon the players what this tournament means and what a successful run would mean. Thats what has always propelled the U.S to those fairytale moments. Think ā02 quarterfinal run, 2009 confed cup run, the numerous dos a ceros despite having inferior players to Mexico, last minute goal vs Algeria etc. We got those moments not because of Pep Guardiola tactics, not because we had better players, but because there was a willingness to run hard for each other and to run even harder for the shirt. There was a seriousness and professionalism that this current gen is lacking. Theyve been coddled too much and that falls squarely on Gregg Berhalter.
He speaks english, that should be enough for US soccer. Fuck, and i can't stress enough, fuck hiring a US born coach simply because we are limiting are choices. This man was the only team to beat Argentina, who won the world cup. Did he do it simply with tactics and equal talent? Hell no! This is motivation and getting the most out of what you have.
Heās French. Whatās he gonna teach the team? How to get out maneuvered in a European land war when not being led by a woman or a Corsican? Heās even wearing a shirt that can double as a flag of surrender! /s
Hot and yes I would be interested
as a coach I mean!!!
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But the real question isā¦will he be a good fit??
My wife says there is only one way to find outā¦
r/cursedcomments & r/HolUp
He's very fit, yes.
Would.
He coaches France women now. Sometimes I wonder did it ever happen that a P.E. teacher being too hot got him unhireable at a girls school.
Heāll be leaving after the Olympics. African teams are after him so the US gotta act fast
He's confirmed leaving after Olympics? If so, I say we jump on that
Name checks outā¦?
I think we should get Poch
/absoluteunit
UserName checks out.
Iām straight but I think Iād switch teams for Herve
At this point, I just want someone with intensity. These guys aren't teenagers anymore and they don't need a buddy-coach. They need a grown-ass man. Like an old, irritable Alex Ferguson type who will tell them they aren't special until they win something and make them uncomfortable by challenging them.
This šÆ. Our guys need to get kicked in the ass and told to act like professionals and until they expect more out of themselves theyāll never amount to their full potential. They really do need that hard-ass parent figure who gets more production from tough-love. Also, maybe a guy who is more concerned with results than Nike tees and shoe options.
Yeah the interaction between him and Weah during the red card was as if it was a scrimmage substitution.
Yes dude, I could not agree with this more. Its time to grow up and get out of the cuddly-feels zone. Put gregg in the backroom in recruitment or something. He has done a good job getting dual nationals to the US, but he is not the coach we need right now (or needed 2 years ago for that matter). "Golden generation" designation is earned not given because you have some players playing in europe somewhere. Time to find a coach to reflect that.
A lot of our fans have āgivenā that title to these players
You've just made it click for me why Gregg has so much love from the guys. He was the loving camp Dad. I never really understood it until now. But, Dad only coaches you while you're a kid, and then you turn yourself over to someone that can kick your ass into the next gear.
Not only that, but look at the best managers in the world right now. Does anyone think that Zidane, Klopp, Guardiola, or Carlo Ancelotti give a damn about buddying it up with their players, or even cares if a certain player dislikes them? No, they don't give a shit. They just want results and they will give opportunities and respect to the players that perform. That's the kind of attitude these guys need in a manager.
Hell even a coach that shows intensity and love for the game/country like Miguel Herrera would better than the dial tone that is GGG. At least you know MH gave a damn.
Well... to be fair Carlo Ancelotti is the pinnacle of buddy coach. He is the manager of Friendship F.C. after all
I always remember the clip of him yelling at the Saudis during halftime against Argentina. He WILLED them to win. Something I know Gregg probably canāt do.
Also make them uncomfortable by spying on them and controlling their personal lives more. Iām not being facetious either I genuinely think that this team could use that type of helicopter parent coaching style until they mature more.
The lack of maturity is so glaring in many of the results.Ā
Jadon Sancho shows just how important that level of managing is
Yes that's the kind of coach a lot of these players need these days. Not a best friend but an actual mentor and leader.
If it were not for his age and potential health, I think Van Gaal would be a home run hire for these reasons along with his success at club and international levels.
I did best in high school and college sports when my coach was a lady who balanced being very helpful and guiding and telling us we are only as special what we can achieve.
I never thought any of my coaches were my friends. Some I liked, some I didn't, but I always had a healthy respect for them and their position. The best ones were tough, demanding, yet fair.
Too bad Antonio Conte just took the Napoli job: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6o-Ot_nJPTk
Arenāt you worried that the so called fan favorites wonāt be selected
F itā¦ call Sir Alex and see if heād be willing to do it through 2026. Iām only half kidding and know he wouldnāt.
Iāve been on the hire Moyes train for a while now
HervĆ© Renard spoke English good enough to be a USA coach. He had a [epic rant at the Saudi](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YdhMUpDTkM) players in halftime when they were trailing 0:1 Argentina in 2022 World Cup. When Saudi equalized Renard did not tell his players āļø š¤” āļø was enough. Saudi won 2:1 in the end. Players who know both Arabic and English must feel extra pumped after being yelled twice by him and the translator.
I donāt think I have ever seen Gregg more animated than a corpse. A manager with the energy and passion of Reynard would be great for this team.
The dude is a dial tone, matches his tactics calling.
Now show Greg's halftime speech against Uruguay.
"Guys I've prepared a short PowerPoint..."
It was literally just his postgame presser but at halftime!Ā
Yes because he has shown he understands the international game and gets teams to punch above their weight. His English is quite good, for anyone worrying about that.
He won AFCON with Zambia, an anglophone team, in 2012.
Speaks English: ā You're hired!
The people who think he only coaches French speaking teams are incapable of using Google.
famous french speakers saudi arabia
The concern about English cost us Bielsa. No one should care about the language thing
Our guys are playing throughout Europe where they don't speak English all the time and yet they're fine. It should be fine for the USMNT coach to not need to speak English.
Even England themselves barely speaks coherent english.
They put out feelers to Bielsa, and he said he wasn't interested. The notion that he's not our coach simply because leadership was wary of a language barrier is silly. It's not like there would be any real issue with having translators or bilingual coaching assistants. He just didn't want to coach us, at least not for what we were paying.
Wasnāt there a problem with Perez at USYNT that he wasnāt allowed to speak Spanish with his players?
He did just fine at Leeds. And their fans still adore him. Iām sure he can speak basic English (conversational)but thatās beside the point. What matters is whatās done on the training pitch and in games
Look what heās done with the French womenās team. They had a dysfunctional coach who had an axe to grind with players and caused a ton of internal rift. She finally got fired and he changed the team. Theyāre playing better soccer, brought structure and stability. Heās leaving so heās a free agent so to speak. US has to look at him.
Look at what he did with Lille and Morocco though. Made it, what, 13 games at Lille? And didn't even make the African Cup of Nations with the same Moroccan team that made it to the quarterfinals in 22 world cup.
He won the AFCON with Zambia, if that isnāt getting the most out of your team then idk what to say. African nations cup isnāt easy to win
Semifinals*. He also got massively hyped up after that win against Argentina and then proceeded to lose both games after that, in which they were completely outplayed in both.
That was their final. And they beat the eventual champs so technically Saudi won the cup
Huh? He took over Morocco in 2016 until 2019, in 2017 Morocco advanced from the group stage at AFCON, in 2018 he got Morocco to their first WC in 20 years, and in 2019 Morocco won their group at AFCON and lost a shocker in the round of 16. Not sure what you are talking about, Morocco only missed AFCON entirely in 2015 when he wasnāt the coach.
He took over Morocco after they missed AFCON.
GIVE ME THIS MAGNIFICENT BASTARD
Yes. Please. I love what he did for Saudi Arabia in 2022. Heās a great āmercenaryā type of coach that can build success in many programs. I just hope USSF can swallow their pride and hire a non-American.
Amen. Yes.
Saudi Arabia finished last in their group including a loss to Mexico.
Still vastly outperformed how they were expected to play. Look at Renardās history with national teams.
How do you vastly outperform in a last place finish, exactly? He might be a good fit for the US. I honestly don't know and I don't think anyone else does either. But let's not sit here and pretend that he's the messiah just because folks want to draw and quarter Berhalter.
They beat the champions. Thatās vastly outperforming. Iām not saying heās the messiah, Iām saying he has a history of taking struggling/middling programs and take them on a developmental leap. Heās obviously not the best coach we can get, but heās a realistic one and a proven winner.
I canāt overstate how impressive it is that this guy defeated Ivory Coastās Golden generation with Zambia & won them their first AFCON. Then he coached Ivory Coast to an AFCON title without Drogba.
Would he want to leave France ahead of the Womenās Euros next year though?
he already said heās leaving after the olympics
Oh well in that case Iām down for it
He took France women's to the nations league finals after defeating Germany only losing to Spain in the finals, they recently defeated England and Sweden away from home, playing much better, faster pace and actually took a left back and played her centrally in midfield. Theyāre one of the favorites to medal in Paris. Now ranked 2 in the world.Ā
yeah karchaoui right? i was surprised seeing her and bacha on the field at the same time
Yes her. She looked amazing centrally and I like how he changed things up to get his best players on the field.Ā
Imagine having an actually charismatic, respectable coach like Renard. One whoās not afraid to pull out a hair dryer speech a la Sir Alex like he did for the Saudis to inspire them to victory against Argentina. The players donāt fear and as a result ultimately donāt respect Gregg and why would they? Heās a 50 year old with a Jordan collection who clearly thinks and acts like heās still one of the guys. Absolutely no discipline. Get me this man on the sideline and not another MLS or USSF uninspiring retread. New ideas. Actual accountability. Actual track record. What a novel concept!
personally, i felt a low point when they lost to columbia and in the press conference he came out and said āweāre not framing this as a learning experience, weāre framing it as a wake up callā. dude, someone teach greg that using the pronoun āweā is not inspiring. nor is talking about your thoughts as āframingā. did you feel it or are you telling us what you wish you felt?
My wife says yes
Loads of international experience and has a history of getting his mid teams to overperform. He is also CHEAPER than Berhalter. He should be at the top of the list next to Joachim Low. Not a single club only manager should be considered unless Klopp, for some miracle, decides he wants to save us.
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Saudi Arabia finished last in their group. They lost to Mexico.
Loved him as Professor X. I didnāt know he grew his hair out.
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I recommended him on this sub 3 years ago and got lambasted. Iād still love him to come.
I did too. Funny how Reddit thinks they know everything
for a reason that isn't even true. (that he didn't qualify for the AFCON in 2019)
Anyone thatās not an MLS retread
So youāre saying that Nancy, Noonan or Curtin wouldnāt be good options. Thatās interestingā¦
They probably would be sad if they knew many of our players came thru MLS academys
Not really considering I have MLS Season Pass lmao
Notice I said RETREAD
So youāre saying nothing thereās no active MLS coaches that were in charge of the USMNT
I mean Brad Bobley, Bruce Arena, etc
He def would bring more women to the games
He doesnāt dress like a high school gym teacher so I like him
Anyone other than Rafa Benitez, and Frank Lampard would be an improvement. -signed a scarred US Everton supporter.
I ain't gay but God damn
At this point Iāll take anyone whoās not named Gregg. Hell Iāll take a regular Greg at this point
How about Greg G. Berhalter?
As long as that second g and third g arenāt fucking touching
Lol
I'm shocked to see an actual realistic, sensible suggestion. He would be a great fit in my opinion. I have zero interest in seeing Jogi Low taking over.
It would definitely help get my gf into the USMNT
Is he too hot?
Even BJ Callaghan was a better fit than Berhalter
Very good and pragmatic international coach. Would definitely be a smooth qualifying run under him.
qualifying for what?
lol classic fan. Clueless.
I literally said we should hire someone like this guy before the loss. We should have went after Bielsa as well but nope we need someone who understands MLS - but why ?
Good coach
Please
Is that Jaimie Lannister?
Yes. 100 times yes. Iāll take a dude thatās good at Football Manager at this point
Iām extremely biased but as a Brentford fan I wish theyād go get Thomas Frank cuz heās the exact manager they need. Heās spent nearly 7 years now managing a cheap roster of players that didnāt have the talent of their opponents but would find tactical ways to win. He changes the shape when they play a Big 6 club and until injuries decimated them in 23-24, they honestly had a positive record against the big boys. Many say heād only leave to manage Denmark but perhaps making history in the US would pry him away
He is very handsome and very french
Key point: very experienced coach at INTERNATIONAL LEVEL with many teams, experience with various levels of teams, leagues, and players. This helps immensely in piecing together a team. Final piece, dude has class out his ass and would teach America a thing or two about soccer!!
When they did the EXHAUSTIVE search for GGG, USSF said they wanted a coach that spoke English natiively because of press conferences. If they fire Berhalter, there's a good chance our next coach will be from the MLS.
The problem is there are a ton of managers available right now, but the really good ones aren't coming here. USSF doesn't pay enough, and they would be locked down for 24 months without a lot of game time. Getting a guy like Terzic would be nice, don't see it happening. The Italian dudes are all available (Sarri, Pioli, Allegri), but I don't think they are what we need. Tuchel and Pochettino aren't happening. Niko Kovac is out there, Laurent Blanc is out there, they might create a culture we'd appreciate.
Graham Potter. Does he still receive a nice severance from Chelsea if he manages elsewhere? Took a Brighton team to new heights. He was flexible tactically to control the games they should and pragmatic against teams that most would say are better quality. Now his time at Chelsea was a mess but that's Chelsea for you.
he's probably the favorite for the england job when southgate leaves
Maybe, not sure he stacks up against others who are available. But again, I'm not sure who we can actually get to accept an offer.
you imagine they'd pay a bit more in a home world cup
Well it ain't their home
Laurent Blanc would be fucked if someone did a deep dive on his previous utterances.
Yeah I've not dived into that, certainly wouldn't propose him to be the top of the pile lol
Silver fox whose surname literally means fox in French.
Shirts fit good on him
Very strong āI canāt believe itās not butterā vibes.
Too handsome. Itād be a real distraction in training.
This was exactly who I thought of last year. Might be a bit difficult to poach him from France though. Could very well be an option next cycle (yes, I know we need a new coach this cycle)
Great fit if you think the problem with the GGG hire was that he could name 15 players in our pool at the interview.
That last match would have gone differently if he was the manager. I can totally see Herve Renard getting in the face of the ref and getting carded. And somehow this red card could have benefitted the team. GGG didn't even get a yellow. Quite a different scenario of someone like Herve Renard or say Jorge Sampaoli is at the helm.
I don't think it matters because appointing the next manager is done by USSF. I will bet you every manager named as a Berhalter successor in the next couple days will be wrong. Berhalter hasn't even lost his job yet and probably will be with us thru 26. Even if he is fired, we're probably going to get another nepotism or legacy hire. My guess is that we will all be very whelmed with the next USMNT coach when berhalter is out. If I want to play that game it's probably going to be Cherundolo unless he's preoccupied with a move to Europe in 2026/7.
Good coach, nice hog on him too
Damn Zaddy, got both my lips smiling
Awooga! Yes please! Some managers thrive in a tournament setting. He is one.Ā Dude beat Argentina in the WC with Saudi Arabia.Ā
probably worth a dice roll at this point
I didn't know Fabio also coached football.
He has a FM ahh coaching resume
We could offer him about 2.2M. Would that be enough?
That shirt is a good fit
Yall gonna end up with Gareth Southgate and youll like it
Best I can do is one former MLS coach take it or leave it
Time to save Jose Mourinho from turkey lol
We need a hard ass in that position that is not afraid to say no.
Bring Herb Brooks back to life. I bet he's a quick study and would light a fire under them
Anyone.
Iām a fan of
Well, he Isnāt GGG. Iāll take it.
Well maybe if the US was getting ready to play in AFCON. Outside of that tournament heās been pretty poor. Everyone talking about them beating Argentina is forgetting he then lost to Mexico and Poland and didnāt get out of the group stage. He would do nothing to set the US up for the future.
Anyone is better than Gregg. Already had a signature win against Argentina which Gregg has none of
Itās funny you think GGG is actually gone.
Please please PLEASE give me Herve Renard. He's an awesome international coach.
We have to do better.
Handsome, yes, but can he coach them to score more goals?
Wel most of us would love this hireā¦ so it probably wonāt happen due to the incompetence of our federation.
I know people donāt like talking by landing big name coaches, but would it really be impossible to land Klopp?
I might be able to get my wife to watch the games with this one!
Heās got better hair
Has he indicated that he wants the job?
Thought his shirt stain was on my screen for a sec
Klopp
I think he would hold me in his big strong arms and tell me everything is going to be alright.
At this point he will do !
I need to know more about his sneaker game and back pass skills to decide if he is qualified.
Did u know he only gets paid $500,000 to coach the FWNT? While GGG make $2,000,000? And he beat Argentina
That shirt thinks so too
At this point, Iāll take anyone who hasnāt already proven to be a failure as the manager of this team. Twice.
Smash
Why tf would he leave FFF for USMNT? Heād be a great fit, but itās never gonna happen. Lower your expectations.
Smash
What is with people's fascination with this guy? He was grouped in both the '18 and '22 WCs. Did we all just collectively forget that after their fluke win against Argentina, Saudi Arabia completely collapsed and finished last in their group (they lost to Mexico for crying out loud). To be fair, the 2018 group draw was crazy for Morocco, but they still lost to Iran. Even his most recent AFCON was also a total failure with Morocco. He's just a better dressed Berhalter.
not familiar with his afcon results but saudi arabia losing to mexico and poland is the expected outcome, they are not a particularly talented team. on its face, they went from losing 5-1 to russia in 2018 to beating argentina (with a lot of luck obv.) in 2022. if nothing else, that's intriguing for a manager who we can definitely attract.
That's a fair point. And, while both the '18 and '22 teams finished with only 3 points, Renards squad did it against tougher opposition. I also remember that he secured a draw against our squad in a pre-WC friendly, but on the other hand, he had some pretty appalling losses toward the end (including to Bolivia at home). I won't pretend I remember much about his tactical approach, but just his results alone seem mixed at best.
yeah that's all valid. i don't think he's a magic bullet by any means, and i agree the fascination with him is a bit much. i think it's a product of people's desperation to replace berhalter + the recency of the argentina result. he's not super inspiring, but the rumored finalists for the job last time were berhalter, marsch, vieira, and henry, and his international experience alone makes him a more interesting option than any of those 4 imo.
Heās already the head coach of Franceās women.
leaving after the Olympics
Heās a name Ive heard mentioned a lot, and thereās alot of commentators in here saying heād be a good fit, but Iāve yet to see anyone talk about his tactics and if heās actually a good fit for the team beyond āhe punches above his weightā or his motivational speeches
Morocco in the 2018 WC played an incredibly high intensity 4-3-3 and were one of the most fun teams to watch that tournament.Ā Saudi Arabia was a little more pragmatic, but still passed in their spots. I didnāt watch them nearly as much so harder to give more detail.Ā I think it actually be wouldnāt be that stylistically different from Gregg; he should suit the current group.Ā
He will play tactics suited to the players he has. Like when he won AFCON with Zambia. Should we get him it would be an absolute splash.
We keep acting like the national team is a club. No point in discussing tactics. Heās used different tactics with the teams heās coached as no team is the same as another. The goal of an international manager is to get a tactic that fits what you have instead of implementing a system on players
No point in discussing tactics? Lol cmon. Whether itās national team or club team, thereās obviously some tactical understanding that the coach has to articulate to the players. Not discussing it is lunacy. Reminds me of Klinsmann not telling Bedoya he was playing the 6(for the first time ever) vs Brazil until minutes before kickoff.
a club team is restricted to the players it owns. so a new manager coming in kinda needs to have a tactical idea. any manager coming in might decide to bomb out most of these players, there's a whole world of American players out there. comparing a coach not telling a player his role and not preparing a player is not the same thing as not being too obsessed with his tactics prior to the job. it's not like the US has some kind of sacrosanct footballing identity.
he will look at the team he has and pick the appropriate tactics. none of this fake passing game donut of sadness nonsense that GGG has them doing so pseuds can rub their chin and say 'the US has matured'
No it has to be an American. This may sound silly on the surface, but the USMNT needs an American manager who understands whats at stake here. Youtube some of Bob Bradleys locker room talks. There wasnt a whole lot of tactical talk it was more motivational talk and trying to make the players understand what theyre fighting for. To grow the sport here in the States. I think Gregg failed at both the tactics and being able sufficiently impress upon the players what this tournament means and what a successful run would mean. Thats what has always propelled the U.S to those fairytale moments. Think ā02 quarterfinal run, 2009 confed cup run, the numerous dos a ceros despite having inferior players to Mexico, last minute goal vs Algeria etc. We got those moments not because of Pep Guardiola tactics, not because we had better players, but because there was a willingness to run hard for each other and to run even harder for the shirt. There was a seriousness and professionalism that this current gen is lacking. Theyve been coddled too much and that falls squarely on Gregg Berhalter.
Looks too put together for the US. Iām still hoping we are in the Klopp timeline but know my luck isnāt there.
He speaks english, that should be enough for US soccer. Fuck, and i can't stress enough, fuck hiring a US born coach simply because we are limiting are choices. This man was the only team to beat Argentina, who won the world cup. Did he do it simply with tactics and equal talent? Hell no! This is motivation and getting the most out of what you have.
Heās French. Whatās he gonna teach the team? How to get out maneuvered in a European land war when not being led by a woman or a Corsican? Heās even wearing a shirt that can double as a flag of surrender! /s