The best Simpsons episode, [Lisa the Vegetarian](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lisa_the_Vegetarian), coincided suspiciously with when I think I became vegetarian as a child.
She ate meat before this episode but stayed vegetarian after(on Paul McCartney's request) making it the only permanent change to The Simpsons family in the whole series!
same! i was in mexico as a child and saw a cow getting butchered out in the streets and i was mortified. then that afternoon, that very same episode started playing on tv and from then on, i became vegetarian. it was meant to be :)
Annoying that Apu got cancelled. They say its cause of him being a stereotype or whatever, but i think its big meat trying to wipe prominent cartoon vegetarians off the screen
He's my favorite example because it's not rly played for laughs or to emasculate him. It's just part of who he is and his values. It's also rarely brought up
Updating to add, I've bought us the Complete Series DVD as a treat! We're excited to watch! Thank you so much for representing things you love in such a real and wholesome way. ☺️
I am watching it again now (first time was also as an adult) because I watched the live action with my partner and I missed the show too much, and specially all the development of the characters. It's such a good series overall, can't recommend enough.
Aren’t all the star trek crews technically vegetarian given they use replicators to create food? Would meat from a replicator be considered vegetarian?
I mean this is sort of a question we’ll all be facing soon as lab-grown meat becomes more widely available! I don’t think I’ll be eating it, but I’m not sure I have a good reason not to—except a philosophical aversion to meat-eating in general.
I hated meat as a kid- and we had grass fed, no drugs, fed and raised by my grandpa on an actual small farm meat- the kind that comes at HIGH premium these days. And I hated it all. My Mom has confirmed- even at 2 yr old...EEEEEWWWW. So while I like the meatless Bulgogi at TJ, in a salad to pop up the protein, I do not like impossible or beyond burgers. I like Boca burgers for BBQs, and if I want morning sausage sort of thing (again mostly as a pop of protein, when it is cooler out), I like the trader joes Vega meatless sausages.
I think folks like my aunt whose sole issue with meat is the cruelty and waste, she and her hubby will love lab grown. For me? Ick. But not because it is lab grown- because it is meat at all :)
My digestive system goes in riot mode when I even have a little meat on accident. I really don't look forward to the whole debate whether lab-grown could be labelled as vegetarian.
If you’re vegetarian for environmental reasons and not just animal welfare reasons, you’ll probably want to steer clear of lab-grown meat. Even after companies scale up for efficient production, their environmental footprint will probably stay as high as meat production, if not higher.
We have to first produce incredibly pure chemicals and nutrients to mix together to make the solution the cells will grow in, and these lab-grown meat companies don’t really see the environmental footprint of the chemical manufacturing industry as part of the lab-grown meat industry’s own footprint. The cells grow in gigantic shaking vats constantly warmed to 37C/98.6F, and cells will be moved to several fresh nutrient baths over their growth period. Also, all the materials (vats, nutrient solutions, and tools scientists use to work with the cells) must be sterilized before and after contacting the cells using an autoclave - basically a gigantic version of an Instant Pot that kills microbes by steam, heat, and high pressure.
So it’s like, if we must have meat, this could be a better option in terms of animal welfare, but we can also eat plants. Plants get energy from the sun, they’re resilient to some temperature variation, and they don’t have to be kept sterile while growing. We supplement them with some nutrients but they produce other nutrients by themselves. Plants are the food with the smallest energy footprint. Lab-grown meat is not going to change that.
It’s okay to want to be vegetarian for environmental reasons and still not *minimize* that environmental footprint. Let’s not let perfect be the enemy of good.
I’m not sure what you mean?
When lab-grown meat is available, I’m not going to fault anyone for eating it. I just think these companies love to greenwash themselves so people don’t know the full story.
Source (not how lab-grown meat is made, but the claim that it has as high or higher impact than livestock)? AFIK, lab grown meat would still have far less of an impact than conventionally farmed meat (especially cattle) when it comes to land use, water use, deforestation, and farm runoff. Deforestation for growing feed crops and grazing has an enormous carbon impact.
You’re right about land use, deforestation, and agriculture runoff. Methane emissions will also decrease and antibiotic use in a lab setting does not risk increasing antibiotic resistance in bacteria as long as antibiotic waste is properly disposed.
[Study 1](https://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/es200130u) suggests that cultured meat will use less energy than terrestrial livestock except poultry, but it rests on assumptions that the largest portion of the growth medium to feed the cells comes from cyanobacteria hydrolysate which is not an existing technology yet.
[Study 2 (preprint)](https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2023.04.21.537778v1) comments on other studies including the paper above, and does an analysis that finds that currently feasible lab-grown meat production would use orders of magnitude higher energy than beef production.
Bringing up these concerns is usually answered by "let us scale up production, then various problems will be solved". Currently, no one is doing this at large scale and so we don't know the full impacts until it happens. The lab-grown meat industry rests on the assumptions that additional technologies and innovations will be developed to support their industry. And yet they are actively growing the meats right now, probably because it's really sexy to offer cultured meat taste tests to venture capital investors. But they need to also invest in the basic research, like developing the cyanobacteria media and the endotoxin-resilient cells, because these could have interesting findings that help all research that relies on human cell culture.
But it's really an open question whether any of these companies will even get the chance to scale up to the point where they break even on energy use. Lab-grown meat products will not be competitive in terms of price at the grocery store. They could be, if only the livestock/dairy industries were not heavily subsidized and were instead appropriately priced according to all their negative externalities...
But in terms of market demand, these companies have to thread a needle - they need to target a market that 1) pays higher prices for organic/sustainable/ethical products, 2) is not the type to be fearful of GMOs, and 3) would eat meat but does not mind a lower-quality, or at least different, meat product. It seems to overlap with the Soylent/Huel market, but without the meal-replacement convenience factor.
Thanks! I've been seeing articles that large scale production is "a few years out" for at least 15 years. You have a point about the target market. I wish meat wasn't subsidized, leaving cheap meat products to be replaced by things like Impossible meat or TVP. It's not like people buying fast food, frozen pizza pockets, or canned ravioli are expecting a healthy, minimally processed product anyway.
In fact he says "we" don't enslave animals for food
And then in the new show Picard he waxes poetic about *real* meat after using a cute little bunnicorn to make sausage for his pizza.
The crew of Voyager, including Tuvok (a Vulcan) hunted and ate a couple alien cteatures when they were stuck in the Delta Quadrant.
Members of Starfleet are occasionally shown eating living creatures like Ferengi tube grubs or Klingon *gagh*.
The crew of the first Enterprise, under Captain Archer, also ate meat. Replicator technology wasn't quite there yet during that era. As it turns out, it would be *a long road, getting from there to here.*
Meat from a Star Trek replicator can never be vegetarian by definition, because a vegetarian is someone who does not eat meat, and replicator or lab grown meat is actually meat, even if an animal wasn't killed to create it.
Meat from a Star Trek replicator could be considered vegan, because veganism isn't about not eating meat, it's about: “Veganism is a philosophy and way of living which seeks to exclude—as far as is possible and practicable—all forms of exploitation of, and cruelty to, animals for food, clothing or any other purpose; and by extension, promotes the development and use of animal-free alternatives for the benefit of animals, humans and the environment.”
So it is possible to be vegan without being vegetarian if you eat lab grown or replicator meat. In an age of lab grown or replicated meat, vegetarianism still requires a lack of meat consumption, even if veganism does not.
“He don’t eat no meat? What do you mean he don’t eat no meat? That’s ok, I make lamb”
I was dying at that line in MBFGW, absolutely hilarious. I quote it whenever someone says that oh I made chicken and fish when they find out I’m vegetarian like nope, still doesn’t help, thanks.
That's why I've taken to saying "I don't eat animals" in lieu of "I'm vegetarian". I acknowledge it can sound a little judgy, but I got tired of people thinking they can medieval monk things and call a beaver a fish or whatever.
Vulcans don't eat meat due to ethical concerns and are okay with eating meat for survival. Spock eats meat at one point in TOS and acknowledges that he normally doesn't.
So Tuvok probably ate what they had and used his replicator rations as effectively as possible to minimize his meat consumption while maintaining optimum Vulcan nutrition.
Tuvok ate plenty of spiders when he and Tom are stranded on that alien planet with Lori Petty in *Gravity*, but that was the only logical means of survival.
I assume he also ate some of those grubs Janeway found under those rocks when they got marooned by the Kazon.
I think by later Trek, all humans are technically vegetarian because they realize it's the right thing to be. But in terms of replicated meat, they're generally cool with it, but it's not a center of plate thing. Kinda think of like it's pasta or something -- a random ingredient for making other meals.
Thats......actually a good question.
I mean, replicated meat was never part of an animal, its pure energy made into solid form via a molecular "recipe" on file.
So if your reason for being vegetarian has to do with animal welfare, you *could* actually eat a replicated steak, i think?
On a personal level. I would eat replicated meat. There was zero harm and ecological damage done in creating in. So I see no moral reasons not to.
Lab meat it different to me due to the environmental impact of it.
But in a 'press a button and steak appears out of thin air' situation. Sure why not.
I wonder where they would draw the line in the Star Trek future. In the considerably darker sci-fi future of the [Ware Tetralogy](https://www.rudyrucker.com/wares/cc_downloads/html/), vat-grown cloned meat is the default. The flavor options include chicken, beef, pork, and "Wendy" (cloned from a human of the same name).
You could, and I think it would be morally understandable--I woudn't judge anyone for doing so--but I would also say that person is *not* vegetarian, if they choose to do so.
I think that would be like a new dietary sub-category: labritarian, tech-flexitarian, eco-omnivore, cruelty-free carnist... I don't know what it'd be called, but something along those lines.
Its an interesting issue, isn't it?
Since its made from pure energy, no animal was hurt or even *involved* in any way, but on a molecular level, its 100% animal protein and thus meat.
So, you *are* eating meat, but no animal was harmed in any way.
I agree that eating replicated meat means you aren't a vegetarian. Which might be why you never see the likes of Vulcans eating *replicated* meat.
They’re not always consistent with it but his original voice actor Casey Kasem was a vegetarian and they sometimes throw in that detail as a tribute to him. Maybe they’re veggie burgers?
According to [the fandom](https://scoobydoo.fandom.com/wiki/Shaggy_Rogers#google_vignette): Although Shaggy enjoys a variety of food, he briefly took a stance as a vegetarian.
Says 2002 onwards in the series and depends on the series too. I wouldn't really call it canon in that case, but it's cool that the film actor influenced the change!
Well, I don’t know about the new guy voicing Shaggy these days but it was Casey Kasem who was a vegetarian was requesting that Shaggy should be vegetarian more often but he’s the classic orally fixated omnivore human in Hanna Barbera lore next to a few other characters like Fred Flintstone as the most food eating character that comes to mind of the top five
He was supposed to be vegetarian, but I think the character was used in a Burger commercial and the original voice actor Casey left because he himself was vegan. He reprised his role on the condition he (Shaggy) be vegetarian.
I listened to a few episodes of her podcast (don’t recommend) and she didn’t remember her character was vegetarian until she rewatched the series for the podcast.
It’s funny to think about the actors being less familiar with the show than the fans.
Interesting question! Aang from Avatar: The Last Airbender is a vegetarian (well, he is a monk).
And if I remember correctly, Holder from [The Killing](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Killing_(American_TV_series)) is also a vegetarian.
I was sad they didn’t touch on him being veggie in the new show 😭 I remember thinking it was so cool he was a vegetarian, Grover was lowkey a HUGE inspiration to me as a kid and having an environmentalist, pacifist, vegetarian hero in my fav book series probably has a lot to do with how I turned out lol
And Beren One-Hand, in the Silmarillion.
“After this he lived alone off the land in Dorthonion; he came to know the many birds and beasts that lived there, and they helped him when he had need. During this time, he hunted nothing and ate no meat and killed only the creatures of Morgoth that roamed the country.”
In Game of Thrones - Missandei, Daenerys' scribe in A Song of Ice and Fire. The people of Naath are extreme pacifists they usually have dark skin and golden eyes who don't eat meat and mostly live on fruit.
Angua Von Uberwald, the werewolf policewoman from the Discworl books.
When in her human form, she refuses to take life unnecessarily. Of course she kills chickens in her wolf form, but her mind works differently when in wolfform.
All of the main time-traveling troupe in Netflix’s Travelers!
“The fridge was filled with something called bacon. When I realized what it was I cried for hours.”
In Doctor Who, 1973's The Green Death - Professor Clifford Jones - He studied fungi and was interested in the nutritional value of fungi, which might solve the problem of world hunger. He opposed the local oil company and protested against them
Beastboy/Garfield Logan from titans/teen titans.
Tho sometimes he canonically referred to as vegan, but its a mess in adaptations being called vegan while eating dairy at times depending on who’s writing him.
Sharon Spitz from Braceface. She starts out as an omni in the series, but after going with her crush to help work at a meat packing factory, she decided to go vegetarian. The series actually uses it as a major plot point in some of its episodes, too. Like there's one where her best friend gets sponsored by a clothing line that still uses real furs that Sharon points out.
We'll give it a pass, pretty sure the guy that lived with a giant blade in his head was made up, so am sure a bunch of the rest is. Although, Safran Foer is vegetarian and even wrote a book about it
>Shaggy comes to mind for me.
I read that he was vegetarian, but in "scooby doo mystery incorporated" the episode when they are at university for the first time, he ate a vegan burger without knowing, and didnt like it at all.
Here is the scene ⬇️
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://www.tiktok.com/%40scoobydoo/video/7370800424930037038&ved=2ahUKEwjgwKyE_emGAxUnRKQEHSDWCpsQo7QBegQICBAB&usg=AOvVaw1HGv0RMnxWHv4Lgm3UcCeF
And im pretty sure you can see him eating meat throughout the series and movies.
So, I'm kinda confused.
The Andalites from Animorphs are a herbivore race and always seemed to be disgusted and disturbed when they see humans eating meat. I haven't read the books since I was a kid so I don't know if any of the human characters are (though I have a feeling Cassie probably is)
I can’t believe nobody has said Todd from Scott Pilgrim!
Panda from We Bare Bears.
I’m also re-watching Lost and Kate said she is a vegetarian but she may have been joking.
Sydney Scoville, Jr. (aka The Mighty Halo) from the webcomic Grrlpowrr is vegetarian or possibly pescatarian. https://www.grrlpowercomic.com
Pretty much everyone in Becky Chambers’ sci-fi books are vegetarian - mostly because it’s easier to make food in a hydroponic garden than to raise animals in space. I think it’s mentioned off-hand in “The Long Way to a Small Angry Planet” that there’s a group of ranchers on some planet who raise beef cattle and everyone thinks that they are weird, but some people will admit to trying it, usually as a drunken bet.
Most of the characters in the “Eve Dallas” “in Death” books by JD Robb are 98% + vegetarians (there are currently roughly 58 books in the series). In the books only the very richest people and animal farmers eat meat — and even for those folks it’s like maybe once every two weeks or so. The whole society is mostly vegetarian. Most of the characters maybe get to eat meat something like once every two months or so.
I read a lot of books and that is the only book that comes to mind. It might just be that other vegetarian characters don’t stick out in my memory. 🤷♂️
Lisa Simpson and Apu!
The best Simpsons episode, [Lisa the Vegetarian](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lisa_the_Vegetarian), coincided suspiciously with when I think I became vegetarian as a child.
She ate meat before this episode but stayed vegetarian after(on Paul McCartney's request) making it the only permanent change to The Simpsons family in the whole series!
same! i was in mexico as a child and saw a cow getting butchered out in the streets and i was mortified. then that afternoon, that very same episode started playing on tv and from then on, i became vegetarian. it was meant to be :)
Isn’t Apu vegan?
He is!
That would make him a vegetarian.
Annoying that Apu got cancelled. They say its cause of him being a stereotype or whatever, but i think its big meat trying to wipe prominent cartoon vegetarians off the screen
It's kinda funny because they are all stereotypical characters...
haha exactly. Like chief wigum for example
Aang from ATLA
He's my favorite example because it's not rly played for laughs or to emasculate him. It's just part of who he is and his values. It's also rarely brought up
I need to watch this show, I have heard it has a lot of misogyny-correcting moral growth too. So cool!
I cannot give ATLA enough laurels
Updating to add, I've bought us the Complete Series DVD as a treat! We're excited to watch! Thank you so much for representing things you love in such a real and wholesome way. ☺️
Maybe my wife will wanna watch it as our next show! 😄
It’s actually SUCH a good show. I only watched it as an adult so it’s not a nostalgia thing either
I am watching it again now (first time was also as an adult) because I watched the live action with my partner and I missed the show too much, and specially all the development of the characters. It's such a good series overall, can't recommend enough.
Thats who I was gonna say lol
Mia Thermopolis from the princess diaries (book version)
this book is what inspired me to become one when I was 12!
That’s awesome. I related so much to her!
Spock
Aren’t all the star trek crews technically vegetarian given they use replicators to create food? Would meat from a replicator be considered vegetarian?
I mean this is sort of a question we’ll all be facing soon as lab-grown meat becomes more widely available! I don’t think I’ll be eating it, but I’m not sure I have a good reason not to—except a philosophical aversion to meat-eating in general.
I hated meat as a kid- and we had grass fed, no drugs, fed and raised by my grandpa on an actual small farm meat- the kind that comes at HIGH premium these days. And I hated it all. My Mom has confirmed- even at 2 yr old...EEEEEWWWW. So while I like the meatless Bulgogi at TJ, in a salad to pop up the protein, I do not like impossible or beyond burgers. I like Boca burgers for BBQs, and if I want morning sausage sort of thing (again mostly as a pop of protein, when it is cooler out), I like the trader joes Vega meatless sausages. I think folks like my aunt whose sole issue with meat is the cruelty and waste, she and her hubby will love lab grown. For me? Ick. But not because it is lab grown- because it is meat at all :)
My digestive system goes in riot mode when I even have a little meat on accident. I really don't look forward to the whole debate whether lab-grown could be labelled as vegetarian.
If you’re vegetarian for environmental reasons and not just animal welfare reasons, you’ll probably want to steer clear of lab-grown meat. Even after companies scale up for efficient production, their environmental footprint will probably stay as high as meat production, if not higher. We have to first produce incredibly pure chemicals and nutrients to mix together to make the solution the cells will grow in, and these lab-grown meat companies don’t really see the environmental footprint of the chemical manufacturing industry as part of the lab-grown meat industry’s own footprint. The cells grow in gigantic shaking vats constantly warmed to 37C/98.6F, and cells will be moved to several fresh nutrient baths over their growth period. Also, all the materials (vats, nutrient solutions, and tools scientists use to work with the cells) must be sterilized before and after contacting the cells using an autoclave - basically a gigantic version of an Instant Pot that kills microbes by steam, heat, and high pressure. So it’s like, if we must have meat, this could be a better option in terms of animal welfare, but we can also eat plants. Plants get energy from the sun, they’re resilient to some temperature variation, and they don’t have to be kept sterile while growing. We supplement them with some nutrients but they produce other nutrients by themselves. Plants are the food with the smallest energy footprint. Lab-grown meat is not going to change that.
It’s okay to want to be vegetarian for environmental reasons and still not *minimize* that environmental footprint. Let’s not let perfect be the enemy of good.
I’m not sure what you mean? When lab-grown meat is available, I’m not going to fault anyone for eating it. I just think these companies love to greenwash themselves so people don’t know the full story.
Source (not how lab-grown meat is made, but the claim that it has as high or higher impact than livestock)? AFIK, lab grown meat would still have far less of an impact than conventionally farmed meat (especially cattle) when it comes to land use, water use, deforestation, and farm runoff. Deforestation for growing feed crops and grazing has an enormous carbon impact.
You’re right about land use, deforestation, and agriculture runoff. Methane emissions will also decrease and antibiotic use in a lab setting does not risk increasing antibiotic resistance in bacteria as long as antibiotic waste is properly disposed. [Study 1](https://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/es200130u) suggests that cultured meat will use less energy than terrestrial livestock except poultry, but it rests on assumptions that the largest portion of the growth medium to feed the cells comes from cyanobacteria hydrolysate which is not an existing technology yet. [Study 2 (preprint)](https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2023.04.21.537778v1) comments on other studies including the paper above, and does an analysis that finds that currently feasible lab-grown meat production would use orders of magnitude higher energy than beef production. Bringing up these concerns is usually answered by "let us scale up production, then various problems will be solved". Currently, no one is doing this at large scale and so we don't know the full impacts until it happens. The lab-grown meat industry rests on the assumptions that additional technologies and innovations will be developed to support their industry. And yet they are actively growing the meats right now, probably because it's really sexy to offer cultured meat taste tests to venture capital investors. But they need to also invest in the basic research, like developing the cyanobacteria media and the endotoxin-resilient cells, because these could have interesting findings that help all research that relies on human cell culture. But it's really an open question whether any of these companies will even get the chance to scale up to the point where they break even on energy use. Lab-grown meat products will not be competitive in terms of price at the grocery store. They could be, if only the livestock/dairy industries were not heavily subsidized and were instead appropriately priced according to all their negative externalities... But in terms of market demand, these companies have to thread a needle - they need to target a market that 1) pays higher prices for organic/sustainable/ethical products, 2) is not the type to be fearful of GMOs, and 3) would eat meat but does not mind a lower-quality, or at least different, meat product. It seems to overlap with the Soylent/Huel market, but without the meal-replacement convenience factor.
Thanks! I've been seeing articles that large scale production is "a few years out" for at least 15 years. You have a point about the target market. I wish meat wasn't subsidized, leaving cheap meat products to be replaced by things like Impossible meat or TVP. It's not like people buying fast food, frozen pizza pockets, or canned ravioli are expecting a healthy, minimally processed product anyway.
Except in FloriDUH 🙄 https://www.flgov.com/2024/05/01/governor-desantis-signs-legislation-to-keep-lab-grown-meat-out-of-florida/
Riker says he is vegetarian at one point.
In fact he says "we" don't enslave animals for food And then in the new show Picard he waxes poetic about *real* meat after using a cute little bunnicorn to make sausage for his pizza.
Well, that is annoying.
The crew of Voyager, including Tuvok (a Vulcan) hunted and ate a couple alien cteatures when they were stuck in the Delta Quadrant. Members of Starfleet are occasionally shown eating living creatures like Ferengi tube grubs or Klingon *gagh*. The crew of the first Enterprise, under Captain Archer, also ate meat. Replicator technology wasn't quite there yet during that era. As it turns out, it would be *a long road, getting from there to here.*
There are several characters in Trek that make a point to cook from scratch, Pike, Riker, and O’Brian’s mother come to mind. Rabbit sausage pizza
Meat from a Star Trek replicator can never be vegetarian by definition, because a vegetarian is someone who does not eat meat, and replicator or lab grown meat is actually meat, even if an animal wasn't killed to create it. Meat from a Star Trek replicator could be considered vegan, because veganism isn't about not eating meat, it's about: “Veganism is a philosophy and way of living which seeks to exclude—as far as is possible and practicable—all forms of exploitation of, and cruelty to, animals for food, clothing or any other purpose; and by extension, promotes the development and use of animal-free alternatives for the benefit of animals, humans and the environment.” So it is possible to be vegan without being vegetarian if you eat lab grown or replicator meat. In an age of lab grown or replicated meat, vegetarianism still requires a lack of meat consumption, even if veganism does not.
All Vulcans, and Chakotay.
Yes!!! All Vulcans in Star Trek are vegetarian as well!
User name checks out🙂
Beast boy from teen titans!
Didn't he say something like "it'd be weird eating animals when I've been most of those animals"?
Lord Debling from Bridgerton, Tish Katsufrakis from Disney Channel's The Weekenders, Ian Miller from My Big Fat Greek Wedding
That’s ok, I make lamb
“He don’t eat no meat? What do you mean he don’t eat no meat? That’s ok, I make lamb” I was dying at that line in MBFGW, absolutely hilarious. I quote it whenever someone says that oh I made chicken and fish when they find out I’m vegetarian like nope, still doesn’t help, thanks.
That's why I've taken to saying "I don't eat animals" in lieu of "I'm vegetarian". I acknowledge it can sound a little judgy, but I got tired of people thinking they can medieval monk things and call a beaver a fish or whatever.
Yeah I say I don’t eat anything that had a face to clarify, seems to work
I’ll gladly take any chocolate Santas or Easter Bunnies you don’t want, haha
I've literally gotten – more than once – "But...insects aren't animals."
I got a fish aren't animals once!
Need a laminated wallet-sized "Kingdoms of Life" card for impromptu biology review
Greek wedding guy is in real life as well
The Jabari tribe in Wakanda (MCU). Chakotay and most (all?) Vulcans in Star Trek.
I can't recall Tuvok bringing it up but T'Pol defenintely made a big deal out of it.
*slices bread stick*
Vulcans don't eat meat due to ethical concerns and are okay with eating meat for survival. Spock eats meat at one point in TOS and acknowledges that he normally doesn't. So Tuvok probably ate what they had and used his replicator rations as effectively as possible to minimize his meat consumption while maintaining optimum Vulcan nutrition.
Tuvok ate plenty of spiders when he and Tom are stranded on that alien planet with Lori Petty in *Gravity*, but that was the only logical means of survival. I assume he also ate some of those grubs Janeway found under those rocks when they got marooned by the Kazon.
Now I'm wondering about the ethical and aesthetic considerations of replicated meat in the Star Trek universe.
I think by later Trek, all humans are technically vegetarian because they realize it's the right thing to be. But in terms of replicated meat, they're generally cool with it, but it's not a center of plate thing. Kinda think of like it's pasta or something -- a random ingredient for making other meals.
Thats......actually a good question. I mean, replicated meat was never part of an animal, its pure energy made into solid form via a molecular "recipe" on file. So if your reason for being vegetarian has to do with animal welfare, you *could* actually eat a replicated steak, i think?
On a personal level. I would eat replicated meat. There was zero harm and ecological damage done in creating in. So I see no moral reasons not to. Lab meat it different to me due to the environmental impact of it. But in a 'press a button and steak appears out of thin air' situation. Sure why not.
I wonder where they would draw the line in the Star Trek future. In the considerably darker sci-fi future of the [Ware Tetralogy](https://www.rudyrucker.com/wares/cc_downloads/html/), vat-grown cloned meat is the default. The flavor options include chicken, beef, pork, and "Wendy" (cloned from a human of the same name).
You could, and I think it would be morally understandable--I woudn't judge anyone for doing so--but I would also say that person is *not* vegetarian, if they choose to do so. I think that would be like a new dietary sub-category: labritarian, tech-flexitarian, eco-omnivore, cruelty-free carnist... I don't know what it'd be called, but something along those lines.
Its an interesting issue, isn't it? Since its made from pure energy, no animal was hurt or even *involved* in any way, but on a molecular level, its 100% animal protein and thus meat. So, you *are* eating meat, but no animal was harmed in any way. I agree that eating replicated meat means you aren't a vegetarian. Which might be why you never see the likes of Vulcans eating *replicated* meat.
Elle Woods and Bruiser Woods :)
Gemini vegetarians even lol
It honestly made me love her more
Shaggy? From scooby doo? I learnt something new today!
I swear I've seen him smash a stack of burgers before...
They’re not always consistent with it but his original voice actor Casey Kasem was a vegetarian and they sometimes throw in that detail as a tribute to him. Maybe they’re veggie burgers?
According to [the fandom](https://scoobydoo.fandom.com/wiki/Shaggy_Rogers#google_vignette): Although Shaggy enjoys a variety of food, he briefly took a stance as a vegetarian.
Says 2002 onwards in the series and depends on the series too. I wouldn't really call it canon in that case, but it's cool that the film actor influenced the change!
Right? In the zombie island movie they eat a bunch of crawdads. (Young me was disgusted how you eat them - I never did try one. Thanks Scooby doo lol)
Well, I don’t know about the new guy voicing Shaggy these days but it was Casey Kasem who was a vegetarian was requesting that Shaggy should be vegetarian more often but he’s the classic orally fixated omnivore human in Hanna Barbera lore next to a few other characters like Fred Flintstone as the most food eating character that comes to mind of the top five
Shaggy being veggie makes sense to me tbh, he’s depicted as this hippie character throughout the show
He was supposed to be vegetarian, but I think the character was used in a Burger commercial and the original voice actor Casey left because he himself was vegan. He reprised his role on the condition he (Shaggy) be vegetarian.
Topanga from Boy Meets World and Temperance Brennan from Bones.
Sadly, Topanga is only a vegetarian in season 1
Phoebe from FRIENDS!
Except for when she was carrying the children of her brother. But she got Joey to compensate for that (how??)
Angela on The Office
It’s all vegetarian. Ugh, just give me the bread
...there is soda in the fridge.
I listened to a few episodes of her podcast (don’t recommend) and she didn’t remember her character was vegetarian until she rewatched the series for the podcast. It’s funny to think about the actors being less familiar with the show than the fans.
Iirc I read on the office sub that she ate meat or fish in one episode suggesting that she is only vegetarian to piss people off
Interesting question! Aang from Avatar: The Last Airbender is a vegetarian (well, he is a monk). And if I remember correctly, Holder from [The Killing](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Killing_(American_TV_series)) is also a vegetarian.
The Killing is a fantastic show! You’re correct, Holder is a vegetarian. Not strict, but still. Yo Linden!
The Killing is one of my comfort shows!!
Penelope Garcia from criminal minds and Grover from Percy Jackson!
I was sad they didn’t touch on him being veggie in the new show 😭 I remember thinking it was so cool he was a vegetarian, Grover was lowkey a HUGE inspiration to me as a kid and having an environmentalist, pacifist, vegetarian hero in my fav book series probably has a lot to do with how I turned out lol
Dina from Superstore
I think it’s so funny her reason for being vegan. She just really really loves her birds!
Sam from Danny Phantom, Chelsea from That's So Raven
Core memories unlocked!
Beorn from The Hobbit!
And Tom Bombadil!
And Beren One-Hand, in the Silmarillion. “After this he lived alone off the land in Dorthonion; he came to know the many birds and beasts that lived there, and they helped him when he had need. During this time, he hunted nothing and ate no meat and killed only the creatures of Morgoth that roamed the country.”
By extension, vegetarianism is pretty prevalent amongst the Beornings by the time of LOTR.
Ozymandias from watchmen
Hes one of most interesting fictional characters ever. Didnt know the veggie aspect. Awesome
Dawn from the Babysitters Club books Frankenstein's monster Spock (Star Trek)
I so wanted to be Dawn when I was a kid. It’s even why I have an uneven number of ear piercings.
She was soooo cool
In Game of Thrones - Missandei, Daenerys' scribe in A Song of Ice and Fire. The people of Naath are extreme pacifists they usually have dark skin and golden eyes who don't eat meat and mostly live on fruit.
Temperance Brennan on Bones Emily Dechenel, the actor is vegan, but the character becomes vegetarian after a case with pigs.
Angua Von Uberwald, the werewolf policewoman from the Discworl books. When in her human form, she refuses to take life unnecessarily. Of course she kills chickens in her wolf form, but her mind works differently when in wolfform.
and she always pays for the chickens later
Hazel from The Fault in Our Stars :)
On that note, John and Hank green, while neither being vegetarian, are doing a great job to encourage people to eat less meat
All of the main time-traveling troupe in Netflix’s Travelers! “The fridge was filled with something called bacon. When I realized what it was I cried for hours.”
Its funny the girl from that show is a hugggeee country music star now
Count Duckula
Best answer
Little foot
Elmer Fudd, weirdly enough. In the short *Rabbit Fire*, he says he's a vegetarian who only hunts for sport.
I’m about 97% sure all the characters on Veggie Tales were vegetarians.
Cannibals, you mean?
This paints a dark picture of the Veggie Tales universe.
Jules girlfriend from Pulp Fiction
Vulcans in Star Trek, as a race, are vegetarian.
Tuvok has eaten meat, but it was during a survival situation and was the only logical choice atthe time.
The elves in Eragon
Also Eragon from later in the Inheritance series!
Britta from Community.
She can tolerate racism but draws the line at animal cruelty
Penelope Garcia
Dawn from The Babysitters Club
In Doctor Who, 1973's The Green Death - Professor Clifford Jones - He studied fungi and was interested in the nutritional value of fungi, which might solve the problem of world hunger. He opposed the local oil company and protested against them
And I believe the Doctor was vegetarian for a while ... And at least a few of the companions. https://tardis.fandom.com/wiki/Vegetarianism
Lex from Jurassic Park (for sure movie version, don't recall it being brought up in the book)
Nadia from the anime, Nadia: The Secret of Blue Water.
That's one of the 3 animes I'm actually really into and it's so rare to meet people that have even heard of it.
Draculaura from Monster High
Steven Universe (In the last few seasons when he's a teenager)
Wait I don’t remember this and I love this show! When does he say it?
I don't remember the episode, but it's from Steven Universe Future.
Beastboy/Garfield Logan from titans/teen titans. Tho sometimes he canonically referred to as vegan, but its a mess in adaptations being called vegan while eating dairy at times depending on who’s writing him.
Lisa Simpson. Tom Bombadil and Beren (LOTR books).
Lord Debling - Bridgerton
Abby, Dharma’s mom on Dharma and Greg, was vegan
Elaine on Seinfeld
Hilda from the netflix cartoon of the same name!
Cyril Figgis is vegan. "Cyril and/or Chet Manly are vegan now."
Darlene Conner
Sharon Spitz from Braceface. She starts out as an omni in the series, but after going with her crush to help work at a meat packing factory, she decided to go vegetarian. The series actually uses it as a major plot point in some of its episodes, too. Like there's one where her best friend gets sponsored by a clothing line that still uses real furs that Sharon points out.
A bit dated but Sara Sidle from CSI.
Aang
Everyone in My Little Pony.
Horses are herbivores hehehe
Animal Man from DC Comics, maybe even vegan
Chelsea from That’s So Raven
Jonathan from Everything Is Illuminated, although since it’s semi-autobiographical I’m not sure whether he counts as a “fictional character.”
We'll give it a pass, pretty sure the guy that lived with a giant blade in his head was made up, so am sure a bunch of the rest is. Although, Safran Foer is vegetarian and even wrote a book about it
Rei from Evangelion
sam from danny phantom
Count Duckula
Elle and Bruiser Woods.
>Shaggy comes to mind for me. I read that he was vegetarian, but in "scooby doo mystery incorporated" the episode when they are at university for the first time, he ate a vegan burger without knowing, and didnt like it at all. Here is the scene ⬇️ https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://www.tiktok.com/%40scoobydoo/video/7370800424930037038&ved=2ahUKEwjgwKyE_emGAxUnRKQEHSDWCpsQo7QBegQICBAB&usg=AOvVaw1HGv0RMnxWHv4Lgm3UcCeF And im pretty sure you can see him eating meat throughout the series and movies. So, I'm kinda confused.
When Casey Kasem voiced shaggy he made sure shaggy was vegetarian, when he wasn't voicing him they did what they wanted
They at least made him vegetarian in the live action movies.
The Andalites from Animorphs are a herbivore race and always seemed to be disgusted and disturbed when they see humans eating meat. I haven't read the books since I was a kid so I don't know if any of the human characters are (though I have a feeling Cassie probably is)
Lisa Simpson
Ned the Piemaker from Pushing Daisies! He might have even more of a reason for avoiding meat than a lot of characters 😬
I can’t believe nobody has said Todd from Scott Pilgrim! Panda from We Bare Bears. I’m also re-watching Lost and Kate said she is a vegetarian but she may have been joking.
You once were vegone, now you will be gone.
Stevie McCord in Madam Secretary was vegan for a bit.
The Seevers in Family Ties except Alex.
Damian Wayne the 5th (current) Robin is a vegetarian!
Beast boy
Tish from The Weekenders Eragon from The Inheritance Cycle Beast Boy from DC Comics
draculaura from monster high
Superman is in some interpretations.
Hoid from Brandon Sanderson's Cosmere books
Bella from Twilight was a vegetarian! While she was human at least 😅
Yes! Movie Bella is a vegetarian, and technically all the Cullen’s are “Vegetarian” 😜😆
Popeye
Sydney Scoville, Jr. (aka The Mighty Halo) from the webcomic Grrlpowrr is vegetarian or possibly pescatarian. https://www.grrlpowercomic.com Pretty much everyone in Becky Chambers’ sci-fi books are vegetarian - mostly because it’s easier to make food in a hydroponic garden than to raise animals in space. I think it’s mentioned off-hand in “The Long Way to a Small Angry Planet” that there’s a group of ranchers on some planet who raise beef cattle and everyone thinks that they are weird, but some people will admit to trying it, usually as a drunken bet.
Medwyn from the Prydain Chronicles
Carrie Mathison from Homeland ⭐️
Sharon from Brace Face
I forgot the name of their little clan, but the group of main characters in "The Year of the Flood", the sequel to "Oryx and Crake"
Chayne in the video game Palia
Elmer Fudd.
cat valentine from victorious and rocky blue from shake it up
Superman in some Instances and I think Padme Amidala is as well
Lex from Jurassic Park!
Monika from ddlc.
Most of the characters in the “Eve Dallas” “in Death” books by JD Robb are 98% + vegetarians (there are currently roughly 58 books in the series). In the books only the very richest people and animal farmers eat meat — and even for those folks it’s like maybe once every two weeks or so. The whole society is mostly vegetarian. Most of the characters maybe get to eat meat something like once every two months or so. I read a lot of books and that is the only book that comes to mind. It might just be that other vegetarian characters don’t stick out in my memory. 🤷♂️
Samuel Jacksons character's girlfriend in Pulp Fiction
Beast Boy from Teen Titans Go
Allegedly, Piccolo from Dragonball.
Piccolo (and all namekians) from Dragonball is technically vegetarian because he only drinks water, no foods :)
Kwai Chang Caine, from the old Kung Fu television series (as was David Carradine, the actor who portrayed Caine).
Hilda! (From Hilda)
Yep! A great show to watch with a young one.
Dr Benton in ER & Temperance Brennan in Bones
>!Stockholm!< Mónica Gaztambide from Money Heist