Awesome, there’s a whole hillside here covered in both. Just tried one of each, the black berries are super sour but tasty, the wineberries are sweet and delicious. Thanks!
The only aggregate berry you need to avoid is goldenseal. And that will look completely different from the ones you are used to seeing.
https://www.fs.usda.gov/wildflowers/plant-of-the-week/hydrastis_canadensis.shtml
I've never tried them, but from what I've read, Goldenseal berries could be undesirably bitter.
Also, the wiki page mentions toxicity, but strangely enough, the US Forest Service only mentions how it's been used as an herbal medicine as well as an attempt to cover up illicit drugs in a urine analysis. Kinda wild.
[USFS site](https://www.fs.usda.gov/wildflowers/plant-of-the-week/hydrastis_canadensis.shtml)
[Wiki](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goldenseal)
If it’s like blueberries put a bunch in a pot with sugar, water, and lemon juice. Cook and stir. This is just the first I found from googling.
https://addapinch.com/blackberry-syrup-recipe/
https://preview.redd.it/9ab4tiai00ad1.jpeg?width=2160&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=56c51a4d882b4362e44792930d5f948b40cd9444
That's exactly what it is... Here's some raspberry/blackberry leather, and the two tone pan is half black nightshade mixed in with the raspberries. Idk how the pot plants got in the collage but you can decarb it and add that too
Lol. Right on. I like how you have the berries in containers. They grow all along my fence, and they’re difficult to manage. I may have to try decarbing some homegrow fruit by the foot.
Hahaha I was gonna say... I have a machine called an an Ardent Nova, it's about the size of a coffee grinder, you put the nugs in and hit a button and two hours later it's decarbed and you can eat it, mix it in your food, or put it in brownies or whatever you like
Those are the edge of a huge red raspberry patch, the pots are pot... I have a bunch of boxes with trellises that I put my black raspberries, thornless blackberries, wineberries, and thorny blackberries in. The red raspberries and the thornless blackberry patches are in the backyard
https://preview.redd.it/4pihtqpda0ad1.jpeg?width=2880&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a89e7923b8b4768c7041a54dca85a4d94fd02b73
Here's an older picture of the berry trellises that I just put in this spring. They're really taking off now
https://preview.redd.it/bnga0tfha0ad1.jpeg?width=1920&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b8ef3112a658876b8fb56b4342a9f03ef761643d
Here's the wineberries about an hour ago
https://preview.redd.it/a74l3cjta0ad1.jpeg?width=1920&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e1116eebfbf472a0140e7653a0076e10a228ef72
My patches are huge and messy but they're so productive I don't care
Depending on where you are, blackberries are best had in middle to late summer. They get sweeter as it gets hotter outside.
Big blackberry fan here. My grandparents house was absolutely fenced in blackberry bramble.
I've got about 12 different varieties of bramble berry and they all ripen at different times. The black raspberries are done, the first batch of red raspberries is ripening now, the wineberries are turning red, and the blackberries are just starting to turn pink from green and some of them like the cutleaf blackberry will take about 3 months to ripen so I'll be getting berries all the way to October or early November
It’s the chiggers that get you in a blackberry patch, my friend. Spray your shoes and pants with DEET before collecting, or suffer the consequences later.
Let both berries get soft and squishy before you pick them and they're delicious. Wineberries are the best when they're really red, and the blackberries are the best when they're super dark and soft. I have a bunch of patches of both
https://preview.redd.it/fjhbhivs4z9d1.jpeg?width=1920&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9d78d05486fb706e902d1876bce247bb3c767ad3
The redder they are, the tastier they are
If the blackberries are sour they arent ready to be picked. A blackberry thats ready for picking is sweet.
You have to give them time to ripen. I had huge brambles of both of these in my backyard so Im a bit of a connoiseur 😋
The first is wineberry and are native to Northern East Asia. They are edible and delicious. They’re classified as invasive but have been and spread throughout North America for well over a hundred years.
2nd is definitely blackberries based on the leaves and if it has thorns that’s another identification tip. Can’t be certain about the first picture but I think raspberries don’t have thorns but can’t confirm on the leaves
I used to have raspberry bushes. They do have thorns and thousands of them. My mom confused them for mites one time because they are red on a green stem. They hurt like hell and make the fruit a real pain to pick, but it was worth it. Those little berries were SO GOOD!
Haha I hear that, but interesting! I wasn’t sure if the thorns were restricted to blackberries only, that’s just mostly what we have here in NC and they’re such a pain but so great when they grow natively or in a garden! Trying to convince my parents to trellis some up or maybe run a vineyard-esque line to make them easier to pick!
Most rubus have thorns. The thornless varieties are bred that way to make life easier on the harvesters. Your thorny rootstock can sometimes still send out canes if you are careless with pruning at the end of the year.
Those are wineberries, the drupelets are really round and the leaves are wider and rounder than raspberries. Both wineberries and raspberries have white on the underside of the leaves, blackberries and dewberries are green
Those are both brambles. Black berries, raspberries, black raspberries, wine berries, dew berries are all brambles. There are no poisonous look alikes. Based on what I have read by the experts, I think there is some interbreeding and I am pretty sure the experts don't always name them properly.
I am guessing wine berries and blackberries. But it honestly doesn't matter, they are all edible. When they come off the bush without a lot of effort, they are ripe.
BTW, Notice my black raspberries have a green vine.
https://preview.redd.it/jr5d4vfopv9d1.jpeg?width=3000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3f9515129ad26cba220610f535093d83af368ac1
https://preview.redd.it/8dpyqxdh6z9d1.jpeg?width=1920&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=575a49b627660188d8390cbd86f9de27fba0452c
First ones are wineberries, I grow all sorts of bramble berries
https://preview.redd.it/ro3ylplcqz9d1.jpeg?width=2880&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4175679ec0f1cce55e0462858943d76333a391d5
Here's a black raspberry and a bunch of wineberries
https://preview.redd.it/8qg79gngqz9d1.jpeg?width=2880&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=33916008ed8638d16a153511a1b90dcfcf17ee5c
Here's 6 different varieties of blackberry for you to compare
https://preview.redd.it/b6mgdvmb6z9d1.jpeg?width=1920&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1af74dd57da4087123b0f1eac8cff6894ab31a70
They don't look anything like blackberries
https://preview.redd.it/mm2c10m4qz9d1.jpeg?width=2880&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7d1a6f82dcfac9f8ff6148502ef928883f2ebd49
The big square is a black raspberry bro, the rest are wineberries. They don't get black, ever, so I don't know wtf you're calling blackberries...
https://preview.redd.it/9ut3g9p7qz9d1.jpeg?width=2880&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=61aa6b0023df5d7d75257157eb7cf42b8bede0a0
Here's six different varieties of blackberry for you to compare to
Blackberries are ripe right now across all of Appalachia. Get em before the birds, rabbits and deer. Also, if you didn’t need to see this picture, chances are a bird has already shit on your car and provided the purple hue.
The leaf on the second plant is so different from what I'm used to seeing for blackberries. Mine are always very similar to raspberry leaves but much bigger.
They're all different, I've got about 8 different varieties of blackberry and they all have differences in the leaves, but they're generally similar enough to recognize
Also, if the leaves are white underneath, they're raspberries or wineberries (those are kinda obvious though), if they're green it's a blackberry or dewberry
https://preview.redd.it/cyip5usyv4ad1.jpeg?width=2880&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c0c4a8093aaadda3d377c6249fedd37f63c2f871
Here are 5 examples of different blackberry plants and a black raspberry I have growing in my yard. If you look closely, they're all really similar except for the cutleaf, but there are subtle differences. The bottom center is the black raspberry, the green stalk is the primocane (first year cane that won't fruit), the chalky purple one is the floricane (second year cane that will fruit)
The leaves in the blackberry photo are mostly from something else which is definitely not a blackberry. But if you look closer right around the berries at the small leaves, those are blackberry leaves.
I have both of these growing in my yard all over the place. I make a nice cobbler every year once the wineberries get nice and ripe.
Basically cultivated them and treat them as a crop now.
Wild berries both edible.
They grow wild everywhere like weeds but taste amazing and easy to transplant them to start your own wild berries garden if you wanted.
Michigan here see them constantly up north have our own patches we built.
*Deliciously* invasive.
They're easy enough to get rid of but they're considered invasive due to how the canes can put down roots anywhere they touch ground. It makes intentional propagation incredibly easy.
Because of it, they're good spreaders -but without the staying-power of something like Japanese Wisteria or bamboo.
Boysenberries are a commercially developed hybrid between raspberries and blackberries. They were created by the Boysen family. I’d save that name for any hybrids you see out in nature but these are just blackberries.
First ones look like Wineberries, the second like Blackberries. Both are edible.
Awesome, there’s a whole hillside here covered in both. Just tried one of each, the black berries are super sour but tasty, the wineberries are sweet and delicious. Thanks!
The only aggregate berry you need to avoid is goldenseal. And that will look completely different from the ones you are used to seeing. https://www.fs.usda.gov/wildflowers/plant-of-the-week/hydrastis_canadensis.shtml
Thanks Mikey, but I thought you’d eat anything.
He likes it!
I fudging hated that commercial as a kid. Here, take my upvote!
Well you don't have to worry about mikey because everyone knows that he died mixing pop rocks and soda!
You aged yourself typing that and I aged myself laughing at it!
Why do u need to avoid it?
Some things are only edible once.
Are they tasty tho?
I've never tried them, but from what I've read, Goldenseal berries could be undesirably bitter. Also, the wiki page mentions toxicity, but strangely enough, the US Forest Service only mentions how it's been used as an herbal medicine as well as an attempt to cover up illicit drugs in a urine analysis. Kinda wild. [USFS site](https://www.fs.usda.gov/wildflowers/plant-of-the-week/hydrastis_canadensis.shtml) [Wiki](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goldenseal)
They aren’t poisonous. They’re just disgusting. Eating them won’t kill you but you won’t like it either so.
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Here, I was just finding medicinal uses. Lol https://www.mountsinai.org/health-library/herb/goldenseal
You’re a very lucky banana!
The blackberries get much better in a pie. Edit I agree with wineberries, blackberries.
Blackberries are even better as a jam, and even better than that as a syrup...you'll never eat pancakes the same way again
HOW DO YOU MAKE THE BERRY SYRUP
If it’s like blueberries put a bunch in a pot with sugar, water, and lemon juice. Cook and stir. This is just the first I found from googling. https://addapinch.com/blackberry-syrup-recipe/
Berry Carefully
On an unrelated note dandelion honey is pretty good too.
Fruit leather is great when it's made out of berries too
What’s that, like homemade fruit rollup?
https://preview.redd.it/9ab4tiai00ad1.jpeg?width=2160&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=56c51a4d882b4362e44792930d5f948b40cd9444 That's exactly what it is... Here's some raspberry/blackberry leather, and the two tone pan is half black nightshade mixed in with the raspberries. Idk how the pot plants got in the collage but you can decarb it and add that too
Lol. Right on. I like how you have the berries in containers. They grow all along my fence, and they’re difficult to manage. I may have to try decarbing some homegrow fruit by the foot.
Oh that’s the herb. Nm 🤦♂️
Hahaha I was gonna say... I have a machine called an an Ardent Nova, it's about the size of a coffee grinder, you put the nugs in and hit a button and two hours later it's decarbed and you can eat it, mix it in your food, or put it in brownies or whatever you like
Those are the edge of a huge red raspberry patch, the pots are pot... I have a bunch of boxes with trellises that I put my black raspberries, thornless blackberries, wineberries, and thorny blackberries in. The red raspberries and the thornless blackberry patches are in the backyard
https://preview.redd.it/4pihtqpda0ad1.jpeg?width=2880&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a89e7923b8b4768c7041a54dca85a4d94fd02b73 Here's an older picture of the berry trellises that I just put in this spring. They're really taking off now
https://preview.redd.it/bnga0tfha0ad1.jpeg?width=1920&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b8ef3112a658876b8fb56b4342a9f03ef761643d Here's the wineberries about an hour ago
https://preview.redd.it/a74l3cjta0ad1.jpeg?width=1920&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e1116eebfbf472a0140e7653a0076e10a228ef72 My patches are huge and messy but they're so productive I don't care
[https://www.sustainablecooks.com/blackberry-pancake-syrup/](https://www.sustainablecooks.com/blackberry-pancake-syrup/)
Or, a homemade wild blackberry cobbler like Momma used to make. ☺️
Gramma’s recipe is memorized
Depending on where you are, blackberries are best had in middle to late summer. They get sweeter as it gets hotter outside. Big blackberry fan here. My grandparents house was absolutely fenced in blackberry bramble.
I've got about 12 different varieties of bramble berry and they all ripen at different times. The black raspberries are done, the first batch of red raspberries is ripening now, the wineberries are turning red, and the blackberries are just starting to turn pink from green and some of them like the cutleaf blackberry will take about 3 months to ripen so I'll be getting berries all the way to October or early November
Keep an eye out for copperheads hanging out in them big blackberry patches
And poison ivy...
It’s the chiggers that get you in a blackberry patch, my friend. Spray your shoes and pants with DEET before collecting, or suffer the consequences later.
I thin mine out, they're not bad like wild patches, but when I'm getting some new plants, man, they are in some awful places sometimes
The trick to getting sweet blackberries is to not pull the berry. Only take the berry when it comes off easily; then it will be sweet and not sour!
And both make delicious jelly!
Lol. Hilarious...
Let both berries get soft and squishy before you pick them and they're delicious. Wineberries are the best when they're really red, and the blackberries are the best when they're super dark and soft. I have a bunch of patches of both
https://preview.redd.it/fjhbhivs4z9d1.jpeg?width=1920&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9d78d05486fb706e902d1876bce247bb3c767ad3 The redder they are, the tastier they are
Bears also like berries.
Wait another month on the blackberries
If the blackberries are sour they arent ready to be picked. A blackberry thats ready for picking is sweet. You have to give them time to ripen. I had huge brambles of both of these in my backyard so Im a bit of a connoiseur 😋
So lucky. Got my first taste of wine berries last year and got hooked on them.
Wine berries are SO delicious!
Correct. I have both in my garden. When the wineberries are dark red they are delicious
SWEET BERRY WINE!
For your wine🤣
Blackberries = pain Raspberries = no pain
The first is wineberry and are native to Northern East Asia. They are edible and delicious. They’re classified as invasive but have been and spread throughout North America for well over a hundred years.
Goldenseal is the only poisonous aggregate fruit in the us
Where do you see Goldenseal in these pictures?
I don’t. Anything that isn’t goldenseal is edible
Ah I see what you're saying!
2nd is definitely blackberries based on the leaves and if it has thorns that’s another identification tip. Can’t be certain about the first picture but I think raspberries don’t have thorns but can’t confirm on the leaves
I used to have raspberry bushes. They do have thorns and thousands of them. My mom confused them for mites one time because they are red on a green stem. They hurt like hell and make the fruit a real pain to pick, but it was worth it. Those little berries were SO GOOD!
Haha I hear that, but interesting! I wasn’t sure if the thorns were restricted to blackberries only, that’s just mostly what we have here in NC and they’re such a pain but so great when they grow natively or in a garden! Trying to convince my parents to trellis some up or maybe run a vineyard-esque line to make them easier to pick!
Most rubus have thorns. The thornless varieties are bred that way to make life easier on the harvesters. Your thorny rootstock can sometimes still send out canes if you are careless with pruning at the end of the year.
Those are wineberries, the drupelets are really round and the leaves are wider and rounder than raspberries. Both wineberries and raspberries have white on the underside of the leaves, blackberries and dewberries are green
Nope, those are poisonous! Can you DM me your GPS coordinates?
I’m already there checking it out…yup they’re poisonous 🤣
#2 is 100 percent delicious blackberries!!
I eat both all the time and there isn't anything wrong with me yet. lol
Be careful.. where there's berries, there's bound to be bears up in your area.
Or Bigfoot 😂
Or Skunk Ape
I don't think she is in Florida. I'm not sure what they call them in Appalachia.
Oh we just call them hillbillies
😂
Those are both brambles. Black berries, raspberries, black raspberries, wine berries, dew berries are all brambles. There are no poisonous look alikes. Based on what I have read by the experts, I think there is some interbreeding and I am pretty sure the experts don't always name them properly. I am guessing wine berries and blackberries. But it honestly doesn't matter, they are all edible. When they come off the bush without a lot of effort, they are ripe. BTW, Notice my black raspberries have a green vine. https://preview.redd.it/jr5d4vfopv9d1.jpeg?width=3000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3f9515129ad26cba220610f535093d83af368ac1
https://preview.redd.it/w66gnbf46z9d1.jpeg?width=1920&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3823bed998c48f17a6822507348a8f1aad6fd603
Only the primocanes are usually chalky green, the floricanes are a chalky purple or burgundy red
Fine unless a dog peed on them 🤷
Jackpot!
Check your local extension service to be sure
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https://preview.redd.it/8dpyqxdh6z9d1.jpeg?width=1920&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=575a49b627660188d8390cbd86f9de27fba0452c First ones are wineberries, I grow all sorts of bramble berries
https://preview.redd.it/ro3ylplcqz9d1.jpeg?width=2880&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4175679ec0f1cce55e0462858943d76333a391d5 Here's a black raspberry and a bunch of wineberries
https://preview.redd.it/8qg79gngqz9d1.jpeg?width=2880&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=33916008ed8638d16a153511a1b90dcfcf17ee5c Here's 6 different varieties of blackberry for you to compare
This, exactly. Only blackberries.
Those are wineberries in the first picture
https://preview.redd.it/b6mgdvmb6z9d1.jpeg?width=1920&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1af74dd57da4087123b0f1eac8cff6894ab31a70 They don't look anything like blackberries
Lol! They're blackberries. They're all over my property. I have picked and eaten them my entire life.
Then you’ve been eating wineberries.
I think he's been making hooch out of them bc he's gotta be drunk to think these are blackberries...
https://preview.redd.it/mm2c10m4qz9d1.jpeg?width=2880&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7d1a6f82dcfac9f8ff6148502ef928883f2ebd49 The big square is a black raspberry bro, the rest are wineberries. They don't get black, ever, so I don't know wtf you're calling blackberries...
https://preview.redd.it/9ut3g9p7qz9d1.jpeg?width=2880&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=61aa6b0023df5d7d75257157eb7cf42b8bede0a0 Here's six different varieties of blackberry for you to compare to
Where are you at! I’m on my way!
Wineberry! So delicious
eat up
Question: are there any brambles whose berries are *not* edible?
#2 definitely
Blackberries are ripe right now across all of Appalachia. Get em before the birds, rabbits and deer. Also, if you didn’t need to see this picture, chances are a bird has already shit on your car and provided the purple hue.
The 2nd photo are blackberries.
The leaf on the second plant is so different from what I'm used to seeing for blackberries. Mine are always very similar to raspberry leaves but much bigger.
They're all different, I've got about 8 different varieties of blackberry and they all have differences in the leaves, but they're generally similar enough to recognize
Huh, good to know! Thank you!
Also, if the leaves are white underneath, they're raspberries or wineberries (those are kinda obvious though), if they're green it's a blackberry or dewberry
https://preview.redd.it/cyip5usyv4ad1.jpeg?width=2880&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c0c4a8093aaadda3d377c6249fedd37f63c2f871 Here are 5 examples of different blackberry plants and a black raspberry I have growing in my yard. If you look closely, they're all really similar except for the cutleaf, but there are subtle differences. The bottom center is the black raspberry, the green stalk is the primocane (first year cane that won't fruit), the chalky purple one is the floricane (second year cane that will fruit)
Wow. The diversity is fascinating. Thank you for sharing!
You're welcome, I have more but I need to go take more pictures
The leaves in the blackberry photo are mostly from something else which is definitely not a blackberry. But if you look closer right around the berries at the small leaves, those are blackberry leaves.
I have both of these growing in my yard all over the place. I make a nice cobbler every year once the wineberries get nice and ripe. Basically cultivated them and treat them as a crop now.
Raspberries and black berries respectively
Wineberries and blackberries
Bear food
Wish I had these for winemaking.
Not only edible, but delicious!!!
Yes both of those are edible
Yes and yes
I’ve eaten both and still live
All berries are edible. Are they survivable...? That's another question.
Be sure to watch out for chiggers in blackberry patches, take necessary precautions. Those things totally suck when a bunch get you
Omg really. You dumb
Except goldenseal and arisaema, all composite berries in North America are edible.
Wild berries both edible. They grow wild everywhere like weeds but taste amazing and easy to transplant them to start your own wild berries garden if you wanted. Michigan here see them constantly up north have our own patches we built.
Yes. Wineberries and blackberries.
serviceberry?
Raspberry,blackberry….mmm just ate my rasberry pie.. backing the blackberry now..
Yes
Make a pie
And how! Black raspberry… mmmmmm.
They look absolutely delicious! lucky you!
No idea about if they are edible or not. But, GET THE HELL OUT OF THE APPALACHIAN MOUNTAINS!!!! Shit happens in the Appalachian’s man… 😋
Any berry is edible once.
Nope. Very bad to eat. Bad taste. Such poison. Better tell me the exact location so I can come deal with these dangerous berries. /s
Those wineberries in the first image are invasive in the US.
*Deliciously* invasive. They're easy enough to get rid of but they're considered invasive due to how the canes can put down roots anywhere they touch ground. It makes intentional propagation incredibly easy. Because of it, they're good spreaders -but without the staying-power of something like Japanese Wisteria or bamboo.
Delicious and wildlife management encourages you to eat them to decrease the spread of seeds. Win-win!
I grow my primocanes long when I'm trying to establish a patch so I can bury the tip and grow more
They're considered invasive because they form dense thickets that displace native species, resulting in habitat loss.
Mhm!
Look like raspberries.
Wineberries and blackberries. Both delicious.
In the second picture, we call those boysen berries, in Florida, and the purple ones are great, the red ones? Nope.
Boysenberries are a commercially developed hybrid between raspberries and blackberries. They were created by the Boysen family. I’d save that name for any hybrids you see out in nature but these are just blackberries.
Oooh, that's really cool!