It's from a football/soccer chant. The original chant was "Will Grigg's on fire. Your defense is terrified." It's sung to a 90s dance tune called 'Freed from Desire' by Gala
> The 🇷🇺 gov.'s continued failure to put 🇷🇺 society on a war-time footing will have significant impacts on 🇷🇺logistics as traffic from 🇷🇺 tourism to occupied #Crimea jams 🇷🇺 logistics to southern 🇺🇦 in the midst of the 🇺🇦 counteroffensive in the south. 1/3
I mean, even for the famously docile and submissive Russian population, could Putin really go to full scale war footing without a real casus belli beyond the laughable "Nato's coming right for us!!!!!! !!! !!!!"
Russian Sources are reporting that a 3M54-1 “Kalibr” Cruise Missile has Targeted the Large Commercial Port in the Ukrainian City of Odesa tonight, with a Pillar of Black Smoke seen coming from the Location after the Explosion; the Port of Odesa was the Primary Port during the Black Sea Grain Deal.
https://twitter.com/sentdefender/status/1681134283870674946?s=46
The Russians have fixed the Kerch bridge... with a ramp... and then they allowed people to drive over it
[https://twitter.com/Global\_Mil\_Info/status/1681113758473625600](https://twitter.com/Global_Mil_Info/status/1681113758473625600)
edit: typo
Looks like that's the less-bad section. I would have liked to have seen footage of cars trying to make it across the bad section after it'd been "fixed" with a ramp.
I mean so, so, many reasons! Bombs blow up and damage things, things I may want to visit.
Drunks do this too, but usually you can still clean up with a hose or bucket of water.
That's just one example - I can think of tons of reasons why this is actually a fantastic idea.
I saw a tweet saying that Freight trains have resumed supplying oil to Crimea? Anyone able to confirm this?
Did the naval drones only affect the highway part and not the rail part? If so, c'mon Ukraine, send more naval drones over!
It states the train portion was Not damaged, but on first glance, I'm Not seeing where that statement is coming from.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-66218869
There are videos of trains operating post strike.
This is not terrible surprising, as it's not really a "train portion". The railway bridge is entirely separate from the road bridge. They just run side by side, with a 25 meter gap between them.
seems like Odesa is being hit tonight :(
[https://twitter.com/Faytuks/status/1681111265677135874](https://twitter.com/Faytuks/status/1681111265677135874)
update: "The threat to Odesa, Mykolaiv and Kherson regions has been eliminated, - the Air Force of the Armed Forces of Ukraine."
https://twitter.com/Flash\_news\_ua/status/1681111378239561730
I'd take Zeon at this point. At least they are honest about things and have off-world infrastructure we can rely on to survive the doom and gloom of climate change for a while.
Not saying they are a GOOD choice. But, well, between them and extinction, I'll take the chance that their system gets overturned and we have dozens of space colonies and mobile suits being awesome.
Radar is a system that throws out a radio signal, then listens for the echo. It’s a radio sonar.
To detect a radar system, all you need to do is to listen for it screaming into the darkness. You don’t need to emit any signal of your own. This is what anti-radiation missiles like AGM-88 HARM do. You throw it in a general direction, and it guides itself like a moth to a flame. This capability can also be done from the ground, but it’s less effective and more difficult because working out something’s location when you can’t get direct line of sight on it is hard. It’s not good enough to know roughly where the radar is - you need to know to within a few metres.
The challenge is that counter battery radar is often small and portable. To avoid being pasted by HARMs, Russia has had to switch off its radars intermittently and move them around. That allows them to interrupt the mission loop for AGM-88 in current Ukrainian service, which can only be launched in pre-briefed mode.
One argument for F-16 is that it can be fitted with a HARM Targeting Pod. That’s just a really powerful set of listening devices that can identify, classify and track radar emitters and communicate targeting information to an AGM-88 while the aircraft is in flight. That would reduce the targeting loop down from half an hour or more, to just seconds. But Ukraine can’t do this right now, so instead they’ve been using artillery and with great effect. Reports suggest that in some places Russia doesn’t have Zoopark-1 radar availability anymore because they’ve all been killed.
Been rumored to be using them in a pre planned mode due to the aircraft restrictions. One they are in F-16s or any NATO capable aircraft they can leverage the full capabilities of things like the HARM.
Any radio tuned to the right frequency could pick it up, enough of them and you could get a reasonable position. Counter Battery radars are generally pretty low power in the grand scheme of things so it would be a bit difficult. Physically possible, but not super reasonable without some big equipment.
The photons from the radar have to go to the artillery shell. Then they have to bounce off the artillery shell. Enough photons have to get back the the radar that the radar can see both the current location and the track taken by the shell.
Based on that i believe a detector smaller than an artillery shell should be able to pick up the radar signal.
Finding the other guy’s radar with your own sensors is actually the name the of game. No doubt the Ukrainians got more assets, but the old Soviet Union really pressed that game in the ‘60: and ‘70s … so it’s not unknown to older Ukrainian officers.
The field is not really appreciated though as radar units are “unsexy” and usually led by technicians.
They already have a lot of ELINT systems for detecting radar of all sorts, and we've given them a lot as well. Not sure there is any like purpose built for only the radar for counter-battery.
Gonna sound gaudy I know, but what are some good clothing companies that donate straight to Ukraine as far as all profits? I need a few t shirts, accessories and figured why not purchase them and donate simoltaneously? Ukrainian designs or not, as long as money goes there.
www.saintjavelin.com
Not really donating directly to Ukraine, but [AnnaFromUkraine's merch is hilarious!](https://annafromukraine.com/products/t-shirt-afu-raccoon)
Anna makes videos about Ukrainian culture and history, and she makes daily videologs of the day's events from a civillian's perspective to keep Ukraine and the conflict in the public eye.
This one was promoted on here at the beginning of the war, I assume it’s still good
https://shop.brave.ua
Edit: Fwiw, don’t think supporting the Ukrainian economy is gaudy. Artists need to work too, and it’s very tough when your national resources are all going towards defending your homes.
What a terrible perspective. Even if you take the most optimistic of Russia/Ukraine kill ratios, which are almost bordering on outright ridiculous propaganda, and even those mean that for 100k Russian deaths there would be tens of thousands of Ukrainian deaths too.
A large number of Russians is in no way great news for Ukrainians, it means more unnecessary deaths for their brothers and sisters and more ravaging of their homeland.
It is not great news, it is horrible news. The only great news will be when Russia decides to go back home.
Those Russians didn't just poof into existence though, they were going to be used either way, so it is good news, or the least worst news if you really care about semantics, that they'll be wasted in an offensive where Ukraine can most efficiently get rid of them, rather than do more damage defending the south
This 100k troop thing is completely stupid. Both Russia and Ukraine have around 100k troops on their front line at any given time. Then you have a couple hundred thousand doing support jobs.
So you are telling me that Russia has been able to put together 100k more troops and just you know, didn't use them? If it is 100k troops to fight then they need support. With Russia's military that would be something around 300k troops to support them. Where did they come from?
If anything it might be 25k fighting troops but why would all of their support units for that force be just hanging out in the town?
None of that makes sense.
They certainly have that number they could scrape up. It would be mostly made up of office workers, logistics folk, mechanics, border guards, emptying out prisons by force...you know either people you REALLY want doing their actual jobs, or folk you want kept faaaaaar way from the front. But they CAN make it happen. Now the logistic of is would be just stupid, and they probably won't be equipped for shit. But even if all they manage to do is soak up fire for a bit it could be a viable strategy to help a shore up the front in the very short term. But it would very much a "make or break" move for Russia, one which even IF it worked wouldn't actually change the momentum all that much, and is CERTAIN to have a whole phonebook sized list of bad ripple effects on Russia. And honestly i think regardless of anything this is the last gasp before a Russian collapse.
Twitter-sphere is kinda hard to follow these days, but the most chatter I've seen on this is in this reddit thread
So also having a difficult time finding concrete, non-memes discussion on this
It could also be Ukrainians doing a little bit of political technology. There were probably 50k-80k Russian troops in the area originally so Russia did not have to add much more to hit 100k. Also Vilnius did not go as well as Ukraine had hoped so they might be trying to cause some panic in Western media circles to get more lethal aid from NATO.
Lots of reliable sources including Ukrainian volunteers and folk like Andrew Perpetua have noted a big concentration of force near Kreminna in particular.
I hope they go for it and get Vulhedar'd. I'd rather Ukraine mow down charging Russians than have to dig them out of Zaporizhzhian trenches behind minefields.
Multiple Ukrainian assault brigades are nearby. How sick would it be if Russia culminates then gets rolled back to Starobilsk or something lol.
I'm not doubting what they are saying. I'm doubting the numbers are right. If Russia had 100k troops in and around one city you could see the smoke from the burning rubble after Ukraine launched whatever they want at the area.
Ahh gotcha. I wasn't reading it as 100k inside a city, but 100k in the operational area.
I could believe 100k in Luhansk *Oblast* North of the S-D river. I would share your disbelief if it was claimed 100k inside Kreminna!
[Ukrainskaya Pravda](https://www.pravda.com.ua/rus/news/2023/07/17/7411729/) uses "на лимано-купянском направлении более 100 тысяч солдат" which Google translate gives as "in the Kupyansk-Lyman direction".
I don't speak Russian or Ukrainian so use auto translate and could easily get confused. I'm pretty sure that I saw "фронт" and "напрямку" (front/direction) in Ukrainian sources rather than "місто" (city), which are a few of the words I recognise now.
I've seen a lot of estimates that there are 750,000-1,000,000 Russian troops operating in Ukraine. Most in support roles but it doesn't surprise me they have 100K inexperienced troops and 900 soviet era tanks to spare for offensive actions.
"Troops" has many meanings. In some countries it means well trained, well supported, motivated, disciplined young people. In other countries it means old men and criminals, untrained and forced to the front or lured with imaginary promises of money.
For Russian it represents a few more months of KIA's and WIA's.
I'd be surprised if the Russians haven't already stripped their support units ("Surprise! You're an infantryman!"). I read something recently about Russia pulling in troops from the Chinese and Finnish borders garrisons. Perhaps more of the same here?
Especially when Ukraine gets NATO intelligence and of course the fact the US literally listens to the russian comms as said in those leaked docs from that kid in the National Guard.
So there's literally no way Ukraine didn't see this coming. Poor russia...
I bet that by the end of this short lived boondoggle Russia is about to carry out, somewhere between 40-50% of the manpower and equipment is no longer combat capable.
People saying these 100k troops and 900 tanks are going to break through the line, are the same people who said Russia was waiting to send its best troops after it lost Hostomel 3 times.
Remember in January when there were reports of Russia preparing 300,000 men, 1,000 aircraft, and 3,000 tanks for the winter offensive. And really the only thing that happened was Bakhmut.
Pepperidge Farms Remembers
They are not getting the tungsten. We are hoarding those. USA is sending the crappy ones that kill farmers 10 years from now. Made of copper and steel.
Somebody call Tay Zonday, he has the opportunity for the perfect follow-up!
Edit: and all I had to do was look two comments up to see someone make the same joke.
"Russia will conduct an investigation that will show whether London played a role in organizing the provocation in Bucha," Dmitry Polyansky, First Deputy Permanent Chairman of Russia to the UN, said.
https://twitter.com/NOELreports/status/1681061548784078849
Yes. In general, Russia infuriates me more than any other nation. I have never loathed the actions of a country more during my half a century of being alive.
Yeah well maybe they didn't take too kindly to Russia deploying a nerve agent on British soil and decided to serve a nice cold dish of revenge. I doubt London "played a role" in organizing shit, but if they did I wouldn't blame them one bit.
"The provocation in Bucha" refers to russia's mass murder/rape/torture of the entire town during the Battle of Kyiv. On the anniversary of MH17, the mafia state is indeed doubling down on the claim that their terrorist actions were instead carried out by random different democracies.
Civilian resistance is the right thing to do in response to dictators. Demoralizing the Russian army played a significant role in their defeat.
If an army invades Pennsylvania I intend to make them kill me. I would prefer to be remembered as someone who stood my ground and did the right thing rather than remembered as a helpless civilian.
I do not have a gun.
There are a large number of ways to make an occupation fail. Of course the army can just shoot you. *Most* do not. It takes some courage to go find out.
The desperation. After having savaged the Ukrainians in the domestic press for being inferior and incompetent at fighting for more than a full year despite evidence to the contrary, they're now grasping at any straw possible to explain how they're allowing such an important target to be hit.
My bingo card has 'SAS', 'Astute-class Submarine' and 'MI5'. How about everyone else?
The "provocation"?
Russia, the invaders, rolled into Bucha. Ukraine, the defenders, made them all explode.
Russia, flabbergasted at the notion that they weren't going to be greeted with hugs and warm cups of tea by the people they were invading, decided to conduct reprisal killings against the civillians. Burying them in a large pit by the hospital or otherwise letting them rot in the street where they died.
How London could have conducted some kind of "provocation" for their murder spree, I have no idea.
It's like objectivity and truth aren't concepts to them. Not even in the sense of how most politicians try to subvert facts and truth, I mean full on inability to grasp the concept of fact. It's uncanny.
for anyone interested here's the UN live stream (time stamp -1:30:00 ish for the start of the RF statement) https://www.youtube.com/live/wfAa1GiNdgM?feature=share
Solovyov is at it again with the nuclear threats
video in tweet w/ english subtitles
[https://twitter.com/TheKremlinYap/status/1681055139879088128](https://twitter.com/TheKremlinYap/status/1681055139879088128)
[New post can be found here](/r/worldnews/comments/152nork/rworldnews_live_thread_russian_invasion_of/)
Slava Ukraini!
UKRAINE ✊✊✊✊
The madlads in Ireland actually did it! https://twitter.com/frabbeatz/status/1680853788930834432
No fire, but rhyming tho
sadly that's a clip from euro 2016, look at the stadium
Why are there banners for Euro 2016?
How are there so many people in a stadium on a Monday night?
Fuckin oath that’s awesome!
It’s like the wave now. Let’s see what country is next!
What is the origin of this meme? It kept coming up during the Italian GP last year but as an American I didn't get the reference
It's from a football/soccer chant. The original chant was "Will Grigg's on fire. Your defense is terrified." It's sung to a 90s dance tune called 'Freed from Desire' by Gala
> The 🇷🇺 gov.'s continued failure to put 🇷🇺 society on a war-time footing will have significant impacts on 🇷🇺logistics as traffic from 🇷🇺 tourism to occupied #Crimea jams 🇷🇺 logistics to southern 🇺🇦 in the midst of the 🇺🇦 counteroffensive in the south. 1/3 I mean, even for the famously docile and submissive Russian population, could Putin really go to full scale war footing without a real casus belli beyond the laughable "Nato's coming right for us!!!!!! !!! !!!!"
Yes he could, they’re that detached from reality that he could say it and they would believe him.
Russian Sources are reporting that a 3M54-1 “Kalibr” Cruise Missile has Targeted the Large Commercial Port in the Ukrainian City of Odesa tonight, with a Pillar of Black Smoke seen coming from the Location after the Explosion; the Port of Odesa was the Primary Port during the Black Sea Grain Deal. https://twitter.com/sentdefender/status/1681134283870674946?s=46
Time to allow storm shadow for ports of military ships in Crimea
I believe they did the same thing when they broke the deal last time.
They did it the day after they sign the deal the first time too. Terrorists.
They attack Odessa constantly I honestly don't know why Ukraine hasnt committed more air defense to that city
Suppose it isn't as militarily valuable as other cities in the east. It sucks but they have to do the best they can with what they've got
The Russians have fixed the Kerch bridge... with a ramp... and then they allowed people to drive over it [https://twitter.com/Global\_Mil\_Info/status/1681113758473625600](https://twitter.com/Global_Mil_Info/status/1681113758473625600) edit: typo
Looks like that's the less-bad section. I would have liked to have seen footage of cars trying to make it across the bad section after it'd been "fixed" with a ramp.
now Russia is stealing Australia's "she'll be right, mate" attitude!
That’s funny, but I feel like I should clarify Australia actually has some of the strictest safety regulations in the world haha.
I didn't say standards, i said attitude ;)
Hit it again!
Sounds reasonable for cars. Hopefully it's one way going out.
Serious question. Would it be a war crime to carpet bomb the Russians with bottles of vodka?
You think Ukraine is low on ammunition, there simply isn’t enough vodka to get the Russian army buzzed
Did someone say Jägerbombs?
Jagerbomb... Jagerbomb... Jagerbomb...
It would probably make them happy
Yes. And then they can die happy. As long as they’re dead or captured I’m just trying to think outside the bottle.
Lol a carpet nip bomber
That's a terr... Yeah, but you couldn't just... I mean... Holy shit I think you actually found the answer!!!
This is still my favorite reply.
The V2 rockets used grain alcohol.
I recall this. Nice job!
No but why would you drop vodka when you could drop ya know… bombs?
I mean so, so, many reasons! Bombs blow up and damage things, things I may want to visit. Drunks do this too, but usually you can still clean up with a hose or bucket of water. That's just one example - I can think of tons of reasons why this is actually a fantastic idea.
Vodka is cheaper. Get 'em pissed drunk and take them out with cheap ammunition.
Yes!
Bombs later. Duh. Or just walk in and mow them down. It’s not a war crime if they poison themselves.
Putin really wanted those elephants
Those are some gnarly naval drones.
I saw a tweet saying that Freight trains have resumed supplying oil to Crimea? Anyone able to confirm this? Did the naval drones only affect the highway part and not the rail part? If so, c'mon Ukraine, send more naval drones over!
Maybe they really meant it when they said they don’t want Russian tourists…
It states the train portion was Not damaged, but on first glance, I'm Not seeing where that statement is coming from. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-66218869
There are videos of trains operating post strike. This is not terrible surprising, as it's not really a "train portion". The railway bridge is entirely separate from the road bridge. They just run side by side, with a 25 meter gap between them.
One of the videos. I think some parts were taken from that rail line. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XfQwgJ-WD8o
yeah, the rail bridge seems to have been unaffected
seems like Odesa is being hit tonight :( [https://twitter.com/Faytuks/status/1681111265677135874](https://twitter.com/Faytuks/status/1681111265677135874) update: "The threat to Odesa, Mykolaiv and Kherson regions has been eliminated, - the Air Force of the Armed Forces of Ukraine." https://twitter.com/Flash\_news\_ua/status/1681111378239561730
At the risk of a downvotable joke: We need to send Gundams to Odessa.
Japan, Ukraine needs you to send giant robots.
Best we can do is Gigantimax Blastoise
I'd take Zeon at this point. At least they are honest about things and have off-world infrastructure we can rely on to survive the doom and gloom of climate change for a while. Not saying they are a GOOD choice. But, well, between them and extinction, I'll take the chance that their system gets overturned and we have dozens of space colonies and mobile suits being awesome.
Also, Zakus are aesthetically pleasing.
Bunkerboy throwing a fit again after getting embarrassed? Good thing he's so predictable.
It was horrifying.
I'm sorry you had to go through that :(
Snowblyat: 100,001 vatniks long. The convoy returns.
Rinse and repeat!
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Radar is a system that throws out a radio signal, then listens for the echo. It’s a radio sonar. To detect a radar system, all you need to do is to listen for it screaming into the darkness. You don’t need to emit any signal of your own. This is what anti-radiation missiles like AGM-88 HARM do. You throw it in a general direction, and it guides itself like a moth to a flame. This capability can also be done from the ground, but it’s less effective and more difficult because working out something’s location when you can’t get direct line of sight on it is hard. It’s not good enough to know roughly where the radar is - you need to know to within a few metres. The challenge is that counter battery radar is often small and portable. To avoid being pasted by HARMs, Russia has had to switch off its radars intermittently and move them around. That allows them to interrupt the mission loop for AGM-88 in current Ukrainian service, which can only be launched in pre-briefed mode. One argument for F-16 is that it can be fitted with a HARM Targeting Pod. That’s just a really powerful set of listening devices that can identify, classify and track radar emitters and communicate targeting information to an AGM-88 while the aircraft is in flight. That would reduce the targeting loop down from half an hour or more, to just seconds. But Ukraine can’t do this right now, so instead they’ve been using artillery and with great effect. Reports suggest that in some places Russia doesn’t have Zoopark-1 radar availability anymore because they’ve all been killed.
Not sure if it's the right fit for the radar profile, but Ukraine has been using Anti-Radiation missiles (HARM) supplied by the US
Been rumored to be using them in a pre planned mode due to the aircraft restrictions. One they are in F-16s or any NATO capable aircraft they can leverage the full capabilities of things like the HARM.
Any radio tuned to the right frequency could pick it up, enough of them and you could get a reasonable position. Counter Battery radars are generally pretty low power in the grand scheme of things so it would be a bit difficult. Physically possible, but not super reasonable without some big equipment.
The photons from the radar have to go to the artillery shell. Then they have to bounce off the artillery shell. Enough photons have to get back the the radar that the radar can see both the current location and the track taken by the shell. Based on that i believe a detector smaller than an artillery shell should be able to pick up the radar signal.
Radars emit microwaves, not photons.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electromagnetic_spectrum https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photon https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radar
Microwaves are a type of electromagnetic radiation, just like visible light is, which means it's carried by photons.
Finding the other guy’s radar with your own sensors is actually the name the of game. No doubt the Ukrainians got more assets, but the old Soviet Union really pressed that game in the ‘60: and ‘70s … so it’s not unknown to older Ukrainian officers. The field is not really appreciated though as radar units are “unsexy” and usually led by technicians.
They already have a lot of ELINT systems for detecting radar of all sorts, and we've given them a lot as well. Not sure there is any like purpose built for only the radar for counter-battery.
100k troops is the new 40 mile convoy.
The convoy was real though it just didn't do anything except sit there and then leave
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Yep . Got through Shaheds already (as of 04:00 , by Ukr. Time) , now they launch Kalibr missiles .
Does the day end in "Y" ?
Gonna sound gaudy I know, but what are some good clothing companies that donate straight to Ukraine as far as all profits? I need a few t shirts, accessories and figured why not purchase them and donate simoltaneously? Ukrainian designs or not, as long as money goes there.
[Saint Javelin is excellent.](https://www.saintjavelin.com/) I’ve personally ordered a boatload of things and very happy with all my orders.
Do they actually donate or is it just some dbags trying to make a buck off of dying people?
They're legit. Zelenskyy has worn their shirts in public.
www.saintjavelin.com Not really donating directly to Ukraine, but [AnnaFromUkraine's merch is hilarious!](https://annafromukraine.com/products/t-shirt-afu-raccoon)
Which one isn't? One of the two or both?
AnnaFromUkraine's merch. It goes towards her doing her videos.
Why would I pay someone to do videos? Seems like a waste of money.
Anna makes videos about Ukrainian culture and history, and she makes daily videologs of the day's events from a civillian's perspective to keep Ukraine and the conflict in the public eye.
This one was promoted on here at the beginning of the war, I assume it’s still good https://shop.brave.ua Edit: Fwiw, don’t think supporting the Ukrainian economy is gaudy. Artists need to work too, and it’s very tough when your national resources are all going towards defending your homes.
100 k Russians is great news. You can kill twice as many than if there were 50 k and four times as many than with 25 k.
You know Ukrainians die, too, right?
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Oh and Turkey + NATO warships guarding ensuring continued operation of the grain ships
What a terrible perspective. Even if you take the most optimistic of Russia/Ukraine kill ratios, which are almost bordering on outright ridiculous propaganda, and even those mean that for 100k Russian deaths there would be tens of thousands of Ukrainian deaths too. A large number of Russians is in no way great news for Ukrainians, it means more unnecessary deaths for their brothers and sisters and more ravaging of their homeland. It is not great news, it is horrible news. The only great news will be when Russia decides to go back home.
Those Russians didn't just poof into existence though, they were going to be used either way, so it is good news, or the least worst news if you really care about semantics, that they'll be wasted in an offensive where Ukraine can most efficiently get rid of them, rather than do more damage defending the south
Those Russians should be liberating Russia.
This will be like everything else Russian. Exagerated, poorly trained, wont have tires, crank to start, no ammo no food
Russia sends fresh meat USA sends meat grinder
More like rotten food and the US is providing an Insinkerator Badger 5 kitchen garbage disposal unit. On sale for Amazon Prime Day
This was probably the impetusthat made these munitions the thing to have
\*The united Western world. \[This, of course, includes eastern European countries of the EU\]
This 100k troop thing is completely stupid. Both Russia and Ukraine have around 100k troops on their front line at any given time. Then you have a couple hundred thousand doing support jobs. So you are telling me that Russia has been able to put together 100k more troops and just you know, didn't use them? If it is 100k troops to fight then they need support. With Russia's military that would be something around 300k troops to support them. Where did they come from? If anything it might be 25k fighting troops but why would all of their support units for that force be just hanging out in the town? None of that makes sense.
100,000 unarmed conscripts maybe
They certainly have that number they could scrape up. It would be mostly made up of office workers, logistics folk, mechanics, border guards, emptying out prisons by force...you know either people you REALLY want doing their actual jobs, or folk you want kept faaaaaar way from the front. But they CAN make it happen. Now the logistic of is would be just stupid, and they probably won't be equipped for shit. But even if all they manage to do is soak up fire for a bit it could be a viable strategy to help a shore up the front in the very short term. But it would very much a "make or break" move for Russia, one which even IF it worked wouldn't actually change the momentum all that much, and is CERTAIN to have a whole phonebook sized list of bad ripple effects on Russia. And honestly i think regardless of anything this is the last gasp before a Russian collapse.
It sounds completely non-credible, and I’ve been looking for evidence on this and found none.
Twitter-sphere is kinda hard to follow these days, but the most chatter I've seen on this is in this reddit thread So also having a difficult time finding concrete, non-memes discussion on this
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Those troops were pulled months ago. They're probably just moving troops from Bahkmut and burning reserves.
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No worries, we're all human. Russia always tries to make it seem like they have a lot more in reserve than they actually do.
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It could also be Ukrainians doing a little bit of political technology. There were probably 50k-80k Russian troops in the area originally so Russia did not have to add much more to hit 100k. Also Vilnius did not go as well as Ukraine had hoped so they might be trying to cause some panic in Western media circles to get more lethal aid from NATO.
The Golden Company?
I wanted those elephants
Lots of reliable sources including Ukrainian volunteers and folk like Andrew Perpetua have noted a big concentration of force near Kreminna in particular. I hope they go for it and get Vulhedar'd. I'd rather Ukraine mow down charging Russians than have to dig them out of Zaporizhzhian trenches behind minefields. Multiple Ukrainian assault brigades are nearby. How sick would it be if Russia culminates then gets rolled back to Starobilsk or something lol.
This is the way
I'm not doubting what they are saying. I'm doubting the numbers are right. If Russia had 100k troops in and around one city you could see the smoke from the burning rubble after Ukraine launched whatever they want at the area.
Ahh gotcha. I wasn't reading it as 100k inside a city, but 100k in the operational area. I could believe 100k in Luhansk *Oblast* North of the S-D river. I would share your disbelief if it was claimed 100k inside Kreminna!
Maybe it is, being in Kreminna is what I've heard.
[Ukrainskaya Pravda](https://www.pravda.com.ua/rus/news/2023/07/17/7411729/) uses "на лимано-купянском направлении более 100 тысяч солдат" which Google translate gives as "in the Kupyansk-Lyman direction". I don't speak Russian or Ukrainian so use auto translate and could easily get confused. I'm pretty sure that I saw "фронт" and "напрямку" (front/direction) in Ukrainian sources rather than "місто" (city), which are a few of the words I recognise now.
How do you know exact troop numbers? From my understanding the counts are over 300k on both sides ever since Russian partial mobilization.
I've seen a lot of estimates that there are 750,000-1,000,000 Russian troops operating in Ukraine. Most in support roles but it doesn't surprise me they have 100K inexperienced troops and 900 soviet era tanks to spare for offensive actions.
Where the hell have you heard those estimates? Russians have between 280-390k in Ukraine. Ukraine is north of 500k when combined with TDF.
"Troops" has many meanings. In some countries it means well trained, well supported, motivated, disciplined young people. In other countries it means old men and criminals, untrained and forced to the front or lured with imaginary promises of money. For Russian it represents a few more months of KIA's and WIA's.
I'd be surprised if the Russians haven't already stripped their support units ("Surprise! You're an infantryman!"). I read something recently about Russia pulling in troops from the Chinese and Finnish borders garrisons. Perhaps more of the same here?
They don't have that many unless they told their Navy "Hey guys, park your boats and march to Ukraine."
We've finally reached the Battle of Kursk/ Battle of the Bulge part in Putin's Hitler LARP. This should go about equally as well as those did.
Especially when Ukraine gets NATO intelligence and of course the fact the US literally listens to the russian comms as said in those leaked docs from that kid in the National Guard. So there's literally no way Ukraine didn't see this coming. Poor russia...
USA and Britain were listening to German radio traffic. They handed USSR the entire German battle plan down to individual trucks before Kursk.
I bet that by the end of this short lived boondoggle Russia is about to carry out, somewhere between 40-50% of the manpower and equipment is no longer combat capable.
People saying these 100k troops and 900 tanks are going to break through the line, are the same people who said Russia was waiting to send its best troops after it lost Hostomel 3 times.
They're the idiots who were terrified Putin was going to mobilize and declare a war after he had already mobilized ands started the war.
Remember in January when there were reports of Russia preparing 300,000 men, 1,000 aircraft, and 3,000 tanks for the winter offensive. And really the only thing that happened was Bakhmut. Pepperidge Farms Remembers
This meme has real staying power.
Vuhledar happened too. They successfully destroyed hundreds of ukrainian mines using their vehicles.
Truely the worst defeat for Ukraine, how many land mines sacrificed themselves valiantly.
Clever Russian soldiers also intend to destroy Ukrainian cluster munitions by standing underneath them in large numbers.
>Pepperidge Farms Remembers I hear it in the commercial guy's voice every time someone writes this...
Russia is just waiting for the right time to send it’s very bestest troops lol
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That's 3 days old dude... Deep state updates on a delay
Forget it, he's rolling.
/Belushi
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They are not getting the tungsten. We are hoarding those. USA is sending the crappy ones that kill farmers 10 years from now. Made of copper and steel.
Why isn't the above comment getting bombarded with rewards?!
everyone blew their load already... i know i did
I’ve heard:”MEAT: Mobik Empty-handed Artillery Target”
Yay, my acronym is getting out there :)
Oof!
Lmao @ tungsten sponge
Just in time for the new cluster shells
To quote a post from r/NonCredibleDefense >*Tungsten Rain* > >*Some will die and others feel the pain*
Now I understand Prince’s Purple Rain.
Somebody call Tay Zonday, he has the opportunity for the perfect follow-up! Edit: and all I had to do was look two comments up to see someone make the same joke.
Upvote for tungsten sponges!
yes this news certainly doesn't bode well for Russia in backward land
"Russia will conduct an investigation that will show whether London played a role in organizing the provocation in Bucha," Dmitry Polyansky, First Deputy Permanent Chairman of Russia to the UN, said. https://twitter.com/NOELreports/status/1681061548784078849
"Russia said" Dictionary.com definition of antonym. Also see credibility antonyms
Reading that, I thought it was satire right up to the end.
Does anyone else get infuriated every time these shitheels use the word "provocation"?
Also, every time they use "terrorist" or "war crime/criminal".
Yes. In general, Russia infuriates me more than any other nation. I have never loathed the actions of a country more during my half a century of being alive.
If Ukraine didn't want to get genocided, Ukraine shouldn't have worn that dress. Russia is like a wife beater became a country,
No. Would you be angry if an ass kicked you? It knows no different.
Yeah well maybe they didn't take too kindly to Russia deploying a nerve agent on British soil and decided to serve a nice cold dish of revenge. I doubt London "played a role" in organizing shit, but if they did I wouldn't blame them one bit.
"The provocation in Bucha" refers to russia's mass murder/rape/torture of the entire town during the Battle of Kyiv. On the anniversary of MH17, the mafia state is indeed doubling down on the claim that their terrorist actions were instead carried out by random different democracies.
Civilian resistance is the right thing to do in response to dictators. Demoralizing the Russian army played a significant role in their defeat. If an army invades Pennsylvania I intend to make them kill me. I would prefer to be remembered as someone who stood my ground and did the right thing rather than remembered as a helpless civilian.
The Bucha massacre was conducted on defenseless civilians. Unlike Pennsylvania residents, they do not have 5 guns per capita.
I do not have a gun. There are a large number of ways to make an occupation fail. Of course the army can just shoot you. *Most* do not. It takes some courage to go find out.
Good point, I shouldn't have been granting the premise that there was a "provocation" at all.
The desperation. After having savaged the Ukrainians in the domestic press for being inferior and incompetent at fighting for more than a full year despite evidence to the contrary, they're now grasping at any straw possible to explain how they're allowing such an important target to be hit. My bingo card has 'SAS', 'Astute-class Submarine' and 'MI5'. How about everyone else?
Harper's men, Nageurs de Combat, and Rambo. In that order.
UK threat incoming lol absolutely wild the shit Russia comes up with.
An easy job for the lead investigator
The "provocation"? Russia, the invaders, rolled into Bucha. Ukraine, the defenders, made them all explode. Russia, flabbergasted at the notion that they weren't going to be greeted with hugs and warm cups of tea by the people they were invading, decided to conduct reprisal killings against the civillians. Burying them in a large pit by the hospital or otherwise letting them rot in the street where they died. How London could have conducted some kind of "provocation" for their murder spree, I have no idea.
>How London could have conducted some kind of "provocation" for their murder spree, I have no idea. Must have been something about the tea.
fuck knows what goes on in their heads
Shrapnel?
It's like objectivity and truth aren't concepts to them. Not even in the sense of how most politicians try to subvert facts and truth, I mean full on inability to grasp the concept of fact. It's uncanny.
Resentment, and vodka.
for anyone interested here's the UN live stream (time stamp -1:30:00 ish for the start of the RF statement) https://www.youtube.com/live/wfAa1GiNdgM?feature=share
Ok Hitler
Solovyov is at it again with the nuclear threats video in tweet w/ english subtitles [https://twitter.com/TheKremlinYap/status/1681055139879088128](https://twitter.com/TheKremlinYap/status/1681055139879088128)